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Title: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on September 12, 2007, 12:07:15 AM
Academy to Invite Jon Stewart Back as Oscar Host
Source: New York Times

LOS ANGELES, Sept. 11 — The Academy Awards haven't exactly turned into a yearly show with Jon Stewart. But Mr. Stewart, the political satirist and star of "The Daily Show," is getting another shot at the Oscar podium.

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, which bestows the Oscars, is expected to bring back Mr. Stewart, who was host of the ceremony in 2006. An announcement is scheduled for Wednesday, according to two people involved with the plan who spoke anonymously because they were not authorized to talk to the news media.

A spokesman for the academy declined to comment. And a publicist for Mr. Stewart declined to comment.

The show, scheduled for Feb. 24 on ABC, will be produced by Gil Cates, who was also the producer when Mr. Stewart made his appearance in 2006.

The comedian mostly toned down his trademark political humor for the broadcast, and scored some of biggest laughs with a riff and montage on gay cowboys, keyed to a 2006 nominee for best picture, "Brokeback Mountain." ("Crash" won the big prize.)

The ceremony drew just 38.9 million viewers on Mr. Stewart's watch. The number was smaller than the 39.9 million drawn by this year's ceremony, whose host was Ellen DeGeneres, who played it folksy in an open collar and red velvet, or the 42.1 million who watched Chris Rock, who played with fire when he tweaked stars like Jude Law in 2005.

It was also far below the 55 million who tuned in when the immensely popular "Titanic" swept the awards in 1998, and Billy Crystal made one of his eight appearances as host.

As in recent years, next year's ceremony, the 80th, will be held at the Kodak Theater in Hollywood.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Kal on September 12, 2007, 12:23:05 AM
I wish Chris Rock would come back... Seinfeld or Sasha Baron Cohen would be amazing. But I guess Stewart is ok...

Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: hedwig on September 12, 2007, 09:49:35 AM
stewart was good.

i want conan.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on September 12, 2007, 01:42:49 PM
Might as well cancel them.

IT'S OVER.

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Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on January 22, 2008, 07:48:01 AM
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80th Academy Awards Nominations

BEST PICTURE
"Atonement"
"Juno"
"Michael Clayton"
"No Country for Old Men"
"There Will Be Blood"

BEST ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett, "Elizabeth: The Golden Age"
Julie Christie, "Away From Her"
Marion Cotillard, "La Vie en Rose"
Laura Linney, "The Savages"
Ellen Page, "Juno"

BEST ACTOR
George Clooney, "Michael Clayton"
Daniel Day-Lewis, "There Will Be Blood"
Johnny Depp, "Sweeney Todd"
Viggo Mortensen, "Eastern Promises"
Tommy Lee Jones, "In the Valley of Elah"

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Cate Blanchett, "I'm Not There"
Ruby Dee, "American Gangster"
Saoirse Ronan, "Atonement"
Amy Ryan, "Gone Baby Gone"
Tilda Swinton, "Michael Clayton"

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Casey Affleck, "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"
Javier Bardem, "No Country for Old Men"
Hal Holbrook, "Into The Wild" 
Philip Seymour Hoffman, "Charlie Wilson's War"
Tom Wilkinson, "Michael Clayton"

BEST DIRECTOR
Paul Thomas Anderson, "There Will Be Blood"
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men" 
Tony Gilroy, "Michael Clayton"
Jason Reitman, "Juno"
Julian Schnabel, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Diablo Cody, "Juno"
Nancy Oliver, "Lars and the Real Girl"
Tony Gilroy, "Michael Clayton"
Brad Bird, Story by Jan Pinkava, Jim Capobianco, Brad Bird, "Ratatouille"
Tamara Jenkins, "The Savages"

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
Paul Thomas Anderson, "There Will Be Blood"
Christopher Hampton, "Atonement"
Ronald Harwood, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"
Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, "No Country for Old Men"
Sarah Polley, "Away From Her"

BEST FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM
"Beaufort" (Israel)
"The Counterfeiters" (Austria)
"Katyn" (Poland)
"Mongol" (Kazakhstan)
"12" (Russia)

BEST ANIMATED FILM
"Persepolis"
"Ratatouille"
"Surf's Up"

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
"The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford" Roger Deakins
"Atonement," Seamus Mcgarvey
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," Janusz Kaminski
"No Country For Old Men," Roger Deakins
"There Will Be Blood," Robert Elswit

BEST FILM EDITING
"The Bourne Ultimatum," Christopher Rouse
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," Juliette Welfling
"Into the Wild," Jay Cassidy
"No Country for Old Men," Roderick Jaynes
"There Will Be Blood," Dylan Tichenor

BEST SOUND EDITING
"The Bourne Ultimatum,"  Karen Baker Landers and Per Hallberg
"No Country For Old Men," Skip Lievsay
"Ratatouille," Randy Thom and Michael Silvers
"There Will Be Blood," Matthew Wood
"Transformers," Ethan Van der Ryn and Mike Hopkins

BEST SOUND MIXING
"The Bourne Ultimatum," Scott Millan, David Parker and Kirk Francis
"No Country For Old Men," Skip Lievsay, Craig Berkey, Greg Orloff and Peter Kurland
"Ratatouille," Randy Thom, Michael Semanick and Doc Kane
"3:10 to Yuma," Paul Massey, David Giammarco and Jim Stuebe
"Transformers," Kevin O'Connell, Greg P. Russell and Peter J. Devlin

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
"The Golden Compass," Michael Fink, Bill Westenhofer, Ben Morris and Trevor Wood
"Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End," John Knoll, Hal Hickel, Charles Gibson and John Frazier
"Transformers," Scott Farrar, Scott Benza, Russell Earl and John Frazier

BEST ART DIRECTION
"American Gangster" Art Direction: Arthur Max; Set Decoration: Beth A. Rubino
"Atonement" Art Direction: Sarah Greenwood; Set Decoration: Katie Spencer
"The Golden Compass" Art Direction: Dennis Gassner; Set Decoration: Anna Pinnock
"Sweeney Todd The Demon Barber of Fleet Street" Art Direction: Dante Ferretti; Set Decoration: Francesca Lo Schiavo
"There Will Be Blood" Art Direction: Jack Fisk; Set Decoration: Jim Erickson

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
"Across the Universe," Albert Wolsky
"Atonement," Jacqueline Durran
"Elizabeth: The Golden Age," Alexandra Byrne
"La Vie En Rose," Marit Allen
"Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber Of Fleet Street," Colleen Atwood

BEST MAKEUP
"La Vie en Rose," Didier Lavergne and Jan Archibald
"Norbit," Rick Baker and Kazuhiro Tsuji
"Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End," Ve Neill and Martin Samuel

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
"Atonement", Dario Marianelli
"The Kite Runner", Alberto Iglesias
"Michael Clayton", James Newton Howard
"Ratatouille", Michael Giacchino
"3:10 to Yuma", Marco Beltrami 

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
"Falling Slowly" from "Once"
"Happy Working Song" from "Enchanted"
"Raise It Up" from "August Rush"
"So Close" from "Enchanted"
"Come So Far (Got So Far to Go)" from "Hairspray"
"That's How You Know" from "Enchanted"

BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
"No End in Sight"
"Operation Homecoming: Writing the Wartime Experience"
"Sicko"
"Taxi to the Dark Side"
"War/Dance"

BEST DOCUMENTARY SHORT SUBJECT
"Freeheld"
"La Corona" ("The Crown")
"Ochberg's Orphans"
"Salim Baba"
"Sari's Mother"

BEST ANIMATED SHORT FILM
"I Met the Walrus"
"Madame Tutli-Putli"
"Même Les Pigeons Vont au Paradis (Even Pigeons Go to Heaven)"
"My Love (Moya Lyubov)"
"Peter & the Wolf"

BEST LIVE ACTION SHORT FILM
"At Night"
"Il Supplente (The Substitute)"
"Le Mozart des Pickpockets (The Mozart of Pickpockets)"
"Tanghi Argentini"
"The Tonto Woman"
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on January 22, 2008, 07:54:22 AM
so if i'm reading this correctly, There Will Be Blood LEADS the nominations with No Country for EIGHT nods.

whatta great year.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: modage on January 22, 2008, 08:20:35 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on January 22, 2008, 07:54:22 AM
so if i'm reading this correctly, There Will Be Blood LEADS the nominations with No Country for EIGHT nods.

whatta great year.
:shock: 

they'll get it wrong.  (don't forget they snubbed THE FUCKING SCORE!)  they'll give it to DDL, and maybe a minor award or two.  otherwise i'm predicting shutout.  and if i'm WRONG, things might be far worse!  if the academy actually recognized PTA in Film, Direction or Screenplay i fear for the worst.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Tommy Both on January 22, 2008, 08:26:52 AM
omg

BLOOD
NO COUNTRY
CLAYTON
ATONEMENT
JUNO

wtf
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Tommy Both on January 22, 2008, 08:28:31 AM
that score was snubbed because it used existing pieces (bbc?), not because it sucked
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: ©brad on January 22, 2008, 08:36:13 AM
Quote from: modage on January 22, 2008, 08:20:35 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on January 22, 2008, 07:54:22 AM
so if i'm reading this correctly, There Will Be Blood LEADS the nominations with No Country for EIGHT nods.

whatta great year.
:shock: 

they'll get it wrong.  (don't forget they snubbed THE FUCKING SCORE!)  they'll give it to DDL, and maybe a minor award or two.  otherwise i'm predicting shutout.  and if i'm WRONG, things might be far worse!  if the academy actually recognized PTA in Film, Direction or Screenplay i fear for the worst.

yeah maybe, but 8 noms is still pretty awesome.

i don't understand juno being nominated for best pic and director. and this really wasn't a good year for actresses.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on January 22, 2008, 08:45:55 AM
Quote from: modage on January 22, 2008, 08:20:35 AM
they'll give it to DDL, and maybe a minor award or two.  otherwise i'm predicting shutout.

haha they can't win a few awards and ALSO get shutout. it's one of the two and the reality is the former. based on oscars history with masterful directors (like PTA's idols ALTMAN and SCORSESE) you really think PTA gives a shit if he doesn't get an award himself? if anything he'll prolly take it as a huge compliment.

also, thank god for the writer's strike we won't have to hear jon think up shitty jokes for this year's contenders. if anything he'll poke fun at being pregnant and that's about it.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: grand theft sparrow on January 22, 2008, 08:51:58 AM
Well, we all know that No Country is going to win over Blood.  It's unfortunate that both films have the same studios distributing them, as they're gonna push No Country more.  But if I have to watch PTA suffer a Best Picture loss to the Coens, it's a good fucking year.

But it's nice to see Once get some recognition as the performance of the nominated song in the movie made me almost start crying like pete on an airplane.  And I'd be just as happy about Ratatouille's screenplay nod if it wasn't going to honest-to-blog lose.

No Zodiac, though.  Not even for visual effects, which it deserves more than any of the nominees.  And sad to see no chance of an Eddie Vedder performance.

And I'm OK with Juno (a.k.a. the movie that brands you a hipster no matter what your opinion is of it) getting all those nominations because I keep reminding myself that my circumstances in late 1999 put me in a spot to really like American Beauty.  And at least PTA got some more recognition this year than in 2000.

As much as we like to remember that these awards are bullshit, we still want our favorites to win.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Sleepless on January 22, 2008, 08:53:28 AM
What the fuck about ZODIAC?!
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Markyboy on January 22, 2008, 09:05:54 AM
It feels like he's a stronger showing in the Best Director category than Best Adapted Screenplay. Great stuff for the movie and PTA even if it doesn't materialize into awards.  :bravo: Here's hoping the ticket sales go through the roof thanks to all these noms. It can only mean good things for future PTA projects taking off smoother and quicker than TWBB.  :yabbse-grin:
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on January 22, 2008, 09:09:29 AM
Quote from: Markyboy on January 22, 2008, 09:05:54 AM
It feels like he's a stronger showing in the Best Director category than Best Adapted Screenplay.

uh not really. way more often than not, the director gets the prize when his picture wins. so PTA getting the Sofia Coppola Award makes a lot more sense.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on January 22, 2008, 09:15:29 AM
I'm stunned Amy Ryan got a nod for Gone Baby Gone. That's awesome. I thought she was great.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on January 22, 2008, 11:36:23 AM
Nominees, others react to Oscar bids


"You put me shoulder to shoulder with a group of fine actors. I'm proud to be in their company and to have the broader recognition for the film is a lovely thing." — Daniel Day-Lewis, best actor nominee for "There Will Be Blood."

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"It's as if I had swallowed some fireworks or something like this. My friends and my family in Paris, they are so happy." — Marion Cotillard, on her best actress nomination for "La Vie en Rose."

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"There were a lot of candidates and a lot of the awards shows or organizations this year have had different mixes of people. It was nice to see Tommy Lee Jones in there. He hadn't been in so much of the mix and when I saw his name come up and there was only one name left to go, I thought, `Naah, well, there's no way (I'll be nominated).' So to be honest, I was quite surprised." — Viggo Mortensen, on his best actor nomination for "Eastern Promises."

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"It's unbelievable. Mom and I were in bed and dad was waiting up for the announcements again, because that's the way my daddy is. It's kind of a bit weird actually, in a good way, in a fantastic way. I never expected this in a million years to happen. I can't believe it. I'm really proud as well that two Irish paddies have been nominated for an Oscar for the same film. It's really great for Ireland, great" — 13-year-old Saoirse Ronan, nominated for supporting actress for "Atonement." Fellow Irishman Seamus McGarvey was nominated for cinematography.

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"I'm pretty sure that I won't win, but it's thrilling to think there are five people and you are in the top five." — Tom Wilkinson, supporting actor nominee for "Michael Clayton."

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"I would never cross a picket line ever. I couldn't. I'm a 20-year member of the Writers Guild. I think whatever they work out is going to be one way or the other but, no, I could never cross a picket line. I think there's a lot of people who feel that way." — Tony Gilroy, nominated for best director for "Michael Clayton."

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"No, if there's a strike I will not go but I have a feeling they'll solve it. I hope they do. I'm sure my mom would like to see me on TV and so forth, but if there's a strike I'm not crossing the line." — Viggo Mortensen, nominated for best actor for "Eastern Promises."

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"A nomination is a nomination and people will get a statuette at the end of the day. (But) it would be a shame if this strike persisted to the extent that the Oscars were canceled because it's a fun time, not just for those who attend but for people watching on television." — Tom Wilkinson, supporting actor nominee for "Michael Clayton."

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"I don't think you can postpone it, it's not like a wedding. They're saying it's going to happen. If they throw the party, if they open the door, I'm going to go." — Lianne Halfon, one of the producers of best-picture nominee "Juno."

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"We're dealing with contingencies but we're thrusting ahead. The point is, we're going to have a show, and we're going to give these incredible artists what they're due. We're going to present the Oscars on Feb. 24, and that is the important thing. Artists are giving their fellow artists a one-time event in many of their entire lives." — Sid Ganis, president of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

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"I'm delighted that `There Will Be Blood' has been recognized by the Academy. These nominations are a testament to the cast and crew, who I am deeply grateful to, for their talent and collaboration. ... It's a thrill to be in this." — Paul Thomas Anderson, nominated for writer and director Oscars for "There Will Be Blood."

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"I never imagined that I'd ever be in a position where I'd be receiving an Oscar nomination, an Academy Award nomination. It's the most exciting honor. It's going to take a while for the reality of this honor to settle in." — Seamus McGarvey, nominated for cinematography for "Atonement."
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Chest Rockwell on January 22, 2008, 12:06:42 PM
No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood being the two major contenders this year is fucking great. I think No Country will get more but this is still a really good year for the Academy. We need more strikes.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: hedwig on January 22, 2008, 01:16:41 PM
this is a pretty awesome year for the oscars. i'll try not to be too pissed if no country wins. like i've said before, it's annoying because i'd be thrilled about a coen bros victory if this were any other year. oh and the other nominees can fuck off. :?

should be one goddamn helluva show. the door is wide open for the academy to redeem themsleves.. or to hammer yet another nail in the coffin. let's hope they don't fuck this up too bad.

a few minor travesties:
- sucks that greenwood's score got disqualified, that would've been 9 blood noms.
- schnabel gets best director but diving bell is snubbed in both the best picture and best foreign language categories.
- it's a shame about Zodiac being COMPLETELY IGNORED. i can't say i'm surprised, such an early release was bound to be forgotten.
- diablo cody for best screenplay... what a joke.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 22, 2008, 01:43:04 PM
Quote from: Hedwig on January 22, 2008, 01:16:41 PM
- schnabel gets best director but diving bell is snubbed in both the best picture and best foreign language categories.

It wasn't a contender for Best foreign language. Persepolis was the French representative.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: john on January 22, 2008, 01:49:36 PM
I think the most immediate success this gives Blood is that, if you were still sitting on your hands waiting for this to come to your town - well, now you will most certainly get to see this in a movie theater.

Shame about Zodiac, though.

And shame about Juno.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: 72teeth on January 22, 2008, 09:34:02 PM
Kinda bummed Brolin didnt get the nod... they're acting like Tommy Lee won't be playing this role/alive next year...
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on January 23, 2008, 12:35:21 AM
The husband-and-wife producing team of Daniel Lupi and JoAnne Sellar were in their Las Villas home watching the announcements when they saw their film "There Will Be Blood" had secured a spot on the shortlist for the top Oscar. "We had a strong feeling Daniel (Day Lewis) would get nominated but we weren't as sure about the film," Sellar said of the movie, one of two Par Vantage-Miramax collaborations to be nommed for best picture. The nom is validation of sorts for the pair, who've produced all of Paul Thomas Anderson's movies. Still, it took an extra little kick for the reality of the nom to set in. "When my mother called from England to congratulate me, that's when I really knew I could celebrate," he says.

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Jim Erickson was in the middle of a yoga session at his Vancouver apartment when his sister-in-law called him with the news. The Canadian set decorator, who was nominated along with art director Jack Fisk for "There Will Be Blood," said he never expects anything out of life, so an Oscar nod was an unexpected treat. "I've never been nominated before, so I have nothing to compare it to," he said. "To me, it's all gravy." Having already been nominated for a BAFTA and Art Director's guild of America, Erickson said an Academy Award nomination makes "There Will Be Blood" hat trick, to borrow a term from his nation's favorite pasttime, hockey. Erickson is currently working on "Watchmen" with Zack Snyder, so there won't be much time for celebration. "I've got a job to do," he said. "I'll get the set open and then I'll figure out what to wear, I guess."

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"We never thought anybody except our close family and friends would enjoy the movie as much as we did," said director of photography Robert Elswit, who was nominated for his rendering of "There Will Be Blood." "I didn't think it would get this much critical praise." He was happy for the whole team, citing nominations for editing and art direction. "I was disappointed about (costume designer) Mark Bridges," he said. "It's hard to pull apart the cinematography from the other things." "I owe all of this to Paul (Thomas Anderson)," he said. Elswit also was thrilled for the success of "Michael Clayton," which he also lensed. "It's so interesting; both films are about one person ... and they are completely different in their visual style," he said. Elswit was in New York on Tuesday working on helmer Tony Gilroy's next film, "Duplicity." As for the strike, he said: "Everyone who I know is out of work; we hope it will resolve itself quickly."

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Dylan Tichenor was in New York cutting "Doubt" when he learned of his nomination for editing "There Will Be Blood." "I'll celebrate by talking with everybody," he said. "I'm very happy. ("Blood") has gotten a ton of recognition and we are thrilled. We are happy to have been on another pretty amazing Paul Anderson movie." As for the WGA strike, he added, "I hope for everyone that things get sorted out. ... I hope everyone can get back to work. Hopefully they will be able to meet eye to eye shortly."
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: squints on January 23, 2008, 02:45:08 AM
i'm a little upset that this http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9782.0 (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=9782.0) didn't make it for best doc.
Fuck Lars. Davecat forever!
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on January 24, 2008, 07:46:19 PM
I really couldn't decide where to put this, as it could go in a couple of threads and seem on topic. But, I was flipping the channels last night when I saw that they were discussing the Oscar noms on CNN's Glenn Beck (they being Mr. Beck and a critic?). Their attitude toward the noms, I thought, were interesting:

BECK: Let me bring up the full screen here of the Oscar nominations. Do we have this?

You know what? I have to tell you, Mike, I heard them at, you know, 8:30 in the morning come out with these nominations. And I thought to myself, I usually don`t care about the Oscars, but I really don`t care. There`s not a picture among them that I care about.

I think that is the first time in my life that Hollywood is completely 100 percent irrelevant.

MEDVED: Well, again, the writers` strike just emphasizes that.

I thought there was a great headline today, Glenn, in "The New York Times." And it said for Oscar nominations, blood and no country lead the way. They`re talking about "There Will be Blood" and "No Country for Old Men"

But the idea that people are going to go out and say, man, I want to go see "There Will be Blood," that`s the movie for me, I mean -- or "No Country"?

This is nonsensical. And again, these are good movies. Many of them are. I thought "Atonement" was a great movie. "Juno" was actually a powerful pro-life movie and it`s nominated for best picture. But the truth of the matter is the entire idea that the world -- the sun rises and sets over who`s going to be nominated for best supporting actor, I think, has never looked less credible than it does today.

BECK: Michael, I don`t think I have ever seen any industry go from mass appeal, mainstream, to niche. It`s usually the -- everybody tries to go the other direction.

Can they reverse this at all, or do they even care? I mean...

MEDVED: Yes and no. I mean, first of all, if you take a look at the movies that really connected with the public, they tended to be sequels like "Spider-Man 3" or "Harry Potter," or even "The Pirates of the Caribbean," the sequel which I thought was lousy.

The American people still enjoy a good time at the theaters, and right now people are still going to "National Treasure," which was a great movie.

BECK: It was fantastic.

MEDVED: A delightful film.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: squints on January 25, 2008, 12:18:58 AM
here's fox new's john gibson making fun of a recently deceased heath ledger
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/gibson-mocks-ledger/ (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/gibson-mocks-ledger/)


let's not go to fox news for our movie opinions.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 25, 2008, 12:27:25 AM
Quote from: squints on January 25, 2008, 12:18:58 AM
here's fox new's john gibson making fun of a recently deceased heath ledger
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/gibson-mocks-ledger/ (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/01/23/gibson-mocks-ledger/)


let's not go to fox news for our movie opinions.

You know, instead of people just complain about Fox News, we could complain to them and get him suspended. That's ridiculous and offensive on all accounts. I'll send a message to fox news.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gamblour. on January 25, 2008, 01:16:52 PM
Quote from: The Perineum Falcon on January 24, 2008, 07:46:19 PM
I really couldn't decide where to put this, as it could go in a couple of threads and seem on topic. But, I was flipping the channels last night when I saw that they were discussing the Oscar noms on CNN's Glenn Beck (they being Mr. Beck and a critic?). Their attitude toward the noms, I thought, were interesting:

Hahah I love that you describe this conversation as interesting. How passive aggressive, haha. The reality, and I think this is obvious, is that Glen Beck is an absolute worthless piece of shit. He's boring even in terms of his ability to be inflammatory. He's said he thinks Ann Coulter is great for stirring up debate. And obviously don't go to some douche bag with a huge pointing index finger for criticism of the arts.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: modage on January 27, 2008, 05:38:18 PM
There Will Be Oscars
Source: Newsweek

At least we think there will be, which is why we collected these likely acting nominees for our 11th Oscar roundtable. They're a lot of fun, and they've got lots to say. Best of all: they didn't need writers.

Daniel Day-Lewis arrived a little late, but he did it in style. He was wearing a jaunty porkpie hat and a black-and-white Western shirt that looked like something swiped from Bob Dylan's closet. The result was so un-Hollywood that George Clooney, this roundtable's class clown, couldn't stop ribbing his fellow best-actor hopeful. Question: "Daniel, do you remember your first professional job?" Clooney: "It was a Western, wasn't it?" One of the delights of these annual gatherings is watching beautiful, talented, rich celebrities become just folks. James McAvoy, who stars in "Atonement," spent the time waiting to go onstage at L.A.'s Hammer Museum talking about trying to steal some wineglasses from a recent Oscar event, only to be caught by the waiter. Just before they were announced onstage, Clooney turned to Angelina Jolie and said, "Let's not go out!" She then pointed to two nonactors nearby and said, "Let's send them instead." Before long, everyone—newbies and ­supercelebs—bonded. Jolie and Marion Cotillard, the French star of "La Vie en Rose," chatted about Provence. "Juno" star Ellen Page confessed that she just got her first apartment. It's a converted brothel, and it's haunted. "My stuff keeps vanishing," she said. "Weird things, like makeup." Advice to Ellen: if you do win an Oscar, hide it. An edited transcript:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/96123/page/1

if somebody wants to post the huge interview here, please do.  there's video at the link above as well.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gamblour. on January 29, 2008, 07:44:43 AM
AMC is playing all 5 best picture nominees with free popcorn for $30.

http://www.moviecitynews.com/Notepad/2008/080128_pr.html
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: squints on February 01, 2008, 09:48:00 PM
The 2009 Oscar Nominees (If the strike doesn't end)


http://www.cracked.com/article_15851_next-years-oscar-nominees-if-strike-doesnt-end.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_15851_next-years-oscar-nominees-if-strike-doesnt-end.html)
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 01, 2008, 10:03:21 PM
when did Cracked.com become the new Onion?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Ravi on February 02, 2008, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 01, 2008, 10:03:21 PM
when did Cracked.com become the new Onion?

The link that squints posted is more like Something Awful's Photoshop Phriday.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on February 14, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
Oscar presenters and performers announced

Academy Awards telecast producer Gil Cates and Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences President Sid Ganis Thursday announced the presenters and performers for the Oscars.

The presenters scheduled to date are:

Alan Arkin, Jennifer Hudson, Helen Mirren, Forest Whitaker, Amy Adams, Jessica Alba, Cate Blanchett, Josh Brolin, Steve Carell, George Clooney, Penelope Cruz, Miley Cyrus, Patrick Dempsey, Cameron Diaz, Colin Farrell, Harrison Ford, Jennifer Garner, Tom Hanks, Anne Hathaway, Katherine Heigl, Jonah Hill, Dwayne Johnson, Nicole Kidman, James McAvoy, Queen Latifah, Seth Rogen, Martin Scorsese, Hilary Swank, John Travolta, Denzel Washington and Renee Zellweger.

Cates and Ganis also announced the performers of the nominated songs. Amy Adams will sing "Happy Working Song" from "Enchanted. "Also from "Enchanted" will be "That's How You Know," sung by Kristin Chenoweth and Marlon Saunders, and "So Close," to be performed by Jon McLaughlin.

Glen Hansard and Marketa Irglova will perform their nominated song, "Falling Slowly," from the motion picture "Once," and Jamia Simone Nash will perform "Raise It Up," from "August Rush," with the IMPACT Repertory Theatre of Harlem.

Writers Hal Kanter, Buz Kohan, Jon Macks and Bruce Vilanch will return to the Oscar telecast team.

Second-time Oscar show host Jon Stewart will also bring on several writers to work on the telecast.

The show will take place Sunday, Feb. 24, at the Kodak Theatre in Hollywood and broadcast on ABC.

The Oscar presentation also will be televised live in more than 200 countries worldwide.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Sunrise on February 22, 2008, 10:59:49 AM
I'd predict a big night for No Country...film, director(s), and adapted screenplay, supporting actor, and potentially cinematography, but Blood might sneak that one out and Deakin's double nomination doesn't help him.

I really hope Juno doesn't take home original screenplay, but I think it will.

Day Lewis is the prohibitive favorite for best actor, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Clooney might steal it.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Sleepless on February 22, 2008, 12:01:16 PM
Michael Clayton is going to steal Best Picture. DDL and JB are of course both going to win. My one big wish is that Diving Bell wins writing.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Pozer on February 22, 2008, 02:45:38 PM
Quote from: Sunrise on February 22, 2008, 10:59:49 AM
Day Lewis is the prohibitive favorite for best actor, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Clooney might steal it.

absolutely NO WAY! 

No Country.  pic, dir, sup act, edit, adapt, cin etc.  id love to see Robert steal cinemetography, and of course Paul screenplay.  i hope DDL isnt the SOLE winner of Blood  :yabbse-undecided:   

Juno  :oops:  diving bell would indeed be prettier.

EDIT: what the hell..

not really interested in the actresses this year, but i guess id say Julie Christie for best and Tilda Swinton for sup.

and the rest:

Art Dir - Sweeney
Org score - Atonement
Org song - Once
Doc - No End in Sight (heard it's the best anyhow)
Doc Short - Freeheld (guess)
Best Foreign - The Counterfeiters (trailer for this looks amazing!)
Animated Feature - Rat
Animated short - I Met the Walrus (like the title)
Live Action Short - Tanghi Argentini (not sure why)
Costume - Sweeney
Makeup - La Vie en Rose
Visual Effects - Transformers ( :yabbse-sad: )
Sound Mixing - No COuntry (screw Transformers)
Sound EDiting - No Country  ( "            " )
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 23, 2008, 11:05:48 AM
ledger gets the biggest applause of the night.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Redlum on February 23, 2008, 01:04:15 PM
I was listening to Roger Deakins being interviewed and he was explaining how he used to be really cynical about the Oscars but in the last few years he has come to embrace it as a celebration of the years film making. I don't know if this coincided with a slew of Roger Deakins Best Cinematography nominations but I agree with him.

...does anyone where I can stream the ceremony live over the internet? The good British Broadcasting Corporation can't even be bothered to cover it on the radio.

As far as winners go, I think it would be great to see Casey Affleck get a win.

Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 23, 2008, 01:15:38 PM
Quote from: Redlum on February 23, 2008, 01:04:15 PM
I was listening to Roger Deakins being interviewed and he was explaining how he used to be really cynical about the Oscars but in the last few years he has come to embrace it as a celebration of the years film making. I don't know if this coincided with Roger Deakins Best Cinematography nominations but I agree with him.

I say it is Hollywood congratulating itself for taking the time to recognize some lesser known films. The Oscars are proud to give the films the consideration, but they always make remarks about how they wish more popular films were nominated so ratings would be better. It's a back handed compliment. The Oscars also feature a host of compliments and thanks to individuals from within the Hollywood community who had done nothing more than create the show or help keep Hollywood a recognized part of American culture.

I also think the Oscars need to embrace the film festival format and have one award be dedicated to audience favorite. It would allow for fans to be invested in the award show because they would be able to choose their favorite. The Oscars also need get over the distinction between theatrical and television and accept some films made for television are worthy to be nominated and win.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Bethie on February 24, 2008, 12:19:56 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 23, 2008, 11:05:48 AM
ledger gets the biggest applause of the night.

hey, that was mine.

i'm sort of excited for the oscars. my friend and i planned a little jubilee. i'm going to wear my 'i drink your milkshake' shirt.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 24, 2008, 12:45:53 AM
Quote from: Bethie on February 24, 2008, 12:19:56 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 23, 2008, 11:05:48 AM
ledger gets the biggest applause of the night.
hey, that was mine. 

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocities.com%2Fnobodyof2007%2FzuesBarking.gif&hash=a7dc933ebba0593248616bb79d3f98357410dcef)
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on February 24, 2008, 01:01:04 AM
We could all try the chat again, but can't guarantee it won't crash like last year.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: ©brad on February 24, 2008, 08:13:21 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 24, 2008, 01:01:04 AM
We could all try the chat again, but can't guarantee it won't crash like last year.

yeah i'm down. let's try it.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Redlum on February 24, 2008, 11:20:22 AM
I think I've found a web feed of ABC7 so I'd be up for chat tonight. Can anyone confirm that they are covering it live?

I just saw an advert for used cars from a guy wearing a cowboy hat. They advertising is both amazing and disturbing particularly having just watched 'Used Cars'.

Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Pozer on February 24, 2008, 12:15:31 PM
im havin an appetizer Oscar party.  everyone is welcome.  bring your fave hors d'oeuvre & bottle of wine. . 
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: last days of gerry the elephant on February 24, 2008, 01:42:04 PM
That chat last year was so good. I was invited to watch it at a friend's but I'll bring my laptop and try to log in.

Or... we could all go to pozer's appetizer party.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: JG on February 24, 2008, 01:59:11 PM
i will sign in.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 24, 2008, 02:12:00 PM
i'm signing in to pozer's party.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gamblour. on February 24, 2008, 02:43:05 PM
My predictions are going to look pretty bland, but I just think that's the way it's going to go. And by bland, I mean NCFOM sweeps. I would love my favorites to win, but I know better than to root for them. The way I think about it is if I wanted to be surprised as little as possible, who would win? But then I let in a few delights/surprises/upsets

Pic: NCFOM
Dir: Coens
Actor: DDL
Actress: Julie Christie
Actor Sup: Javier Bardem
Actress Sup: Ruby Dee
Original Screenplay: Diablo Cody (I so don't want her to win, but Little Miss Sunshine guy won, so)
Adapted: NCFOM
Art Direction: TWBB
Cinematography: Deakins NCFOM
Editing: Roderick Jaynes
Doc: No End in Sight
Animated: Ratatouille
Score: Atonement
Song - Once

Rest: dunno
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 24, 2008, 08:42:44 PM
PARTY IN THE XIXAX CHAT! :multi:
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: bonanzataz on February 24, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
how could they diss brad renfro like that?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on February 24, 2008, 10:16:43 PM
Quote from: bonanzataz on February 24, 2008, 10:10:02 PM
how could they diss brad renfro like that?

Yeah, what was up with that? Not even a quick mention.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on February 24, 2008, 10:26:18 PM
They gave the orig screenplay to THAT hack?

Invalidated.  :yabbse-thumbdown:
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on February 24, 2008, 10:51:10 PM
Best Motion Picture of the Year
Winner: No Country for Old Men (2007) - Ethan Coen, Joel Coen, Scott Rudin

Best Achievement in Directing
Winner: Ethan Coen, Joel Coen for No Country for Old Men (2007)

Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role
Winner: Daniel Day-Lewis for There Will Be Blood (2007)

Best Writing, Screenplay Written Directly for the Screen
Winner: Juno (2007) - Diablo Cody

Best Documentary, Features
Winner: Taxi to the Dark Side (2007) - Alex Gibney, Eva Orner

Best Documentary, Short Subjects
Winner: Freeheld (2007) - Cynthia Wade, Vanessa Roth

Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Score
Winner: Atonement (2007) - Dario Marianelli

Best Achievement in Cinematography
Winner: There Will Be Blood (2007) - Robert Elswit

Best Achievement in Music Written for Motion Pictures, Original Song
Winner: Once (2006) - Glen Hansard, Markéta Irglová("Falling Slowly" )

Best Foreign Language Film of the Year
Winner: Fälscher, Die (2007)(Austria)

Best Achievement in Editing
Winner: The Bourne Ultimatum (2007) - Christopher Rouse

Best Performance by an Actress in a Leading Role
Winner: Marion Cotillard for Môme, La (2007)

Best Achievement in Sound
Winner: The Bourne Ultimatum (2007) - Scott Millan, David Parker, Kirk Francis

Best Achievement in Sound Editing
Winner: The Bourne Ultimatum (2007) - Karen M. Baker, Per Hallberg

Best Writing, Screenplay Based on Material Previously Produced or Published
Winner: No Country for Old Men (2007) - Joel Coen, Ethan Coen

Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role
Winner: Tilda Swinton for Michael Clayton (2007)

Best Short Film, Animated
Winner: Peter & the Wolf (2006) - Suzie Templeton, Hugh Welchman

Best Short Film, Live Action
Winner: Mozart des pickpockets, Le (2006) - Philippe Pollet-Villard

Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role
Winner: Javier Bardem for No Country for Old Men (2007)

Best Achievement in Art Direction
Winner: Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (2007) - Dante Ferretti, Francesca Lo Schiavo

Best Achievement in Visual Effects
Winner: The Golden Compass (2007) - Michael L. Fink, Bill Westenhofer, Ben Morris, Trevor Wood

Best Achievement in Makeup
Winner: Môme, La (2007) - Didier Lavergne, Jan Archibald

Best Animated Feature Film of the Year
Winner: Ratatouille (2007) - Brad Bird

Best Achievement in Costume Design
Winner: Elizabeth: The Golden Age (2007) - Alexandra Byrne
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Chest Rockwell on February 24, 2008, 10:52:19 PM
Pretty much went as expected. Only surprise for me in the categories I pay any attention to was Marion Cotillard.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: polkablues on February 24, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Stefen on February 24, 2008, 10:26:18 PM
They gave the orig screenplay to THAT hack?

Invalidated.  :yabbse-thumbdown:

But you have to admit that was a sincere, emotional acceptance.  Cut the bitch some slack, people!

Classiest moment of the night: letting Marketa Irglova back on stage.  Most classless moment: cutting her off in the first place.

Biggest abomination: both the third "Enchanted" song and that horrible fucking song from "August Rush" were nominated over Vedder?  Whatthefuck?

Second most classless: everyone in the auditorium only clapping at the names of dead people that they recognized.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Reinhold on February 24, 2008, 10:56:02 PM
i was a little surprised that Juno won for Best Screenplay. (cutest whimper ever at the end of the acceptance speech, though.)

Zodiac should have been nominated pretty much everywhere that Michael Clayton was-- but since it wasn't, I think this year was just about right.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cron on February 24, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
this is a bright but haunted age, indeed. i hadn't seen the oscars in years, 6 years probably, and although the ceremony wasn't perfect, man, it's a weird feeling , knowing that some real quality stuff just got (more) mainstream recognition. i love living in these times.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: polkablues on February 24, 2008, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: cron on February 24, 2008, 10:58:19 PM
this is a bright but haunted age, indeed. i hadn't seen the oscars in years, 6 years probably, and although the ceremony wasn't perfect, man, it's a weird feeling , knowing that some real quality stuff just got (more) mainstream recognition. i love living in these times.


It's a long way from two years ago, isn't it...  :yabbse-smiley:
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Pwaybloe on February 24, 2008, 11:25:03 PM
Well, it was what it was.  Another overrated movie wins best pic.  Anyway, it was a pretty good show.  I agree that the Brad Renfro dismissal was ridiculous.  I loved seeing Tilda Swinton and Marion Cotillard win.  Javier Bardem winning was, well... it was predictable.  Congrats to DDL and Elswit for working on the best movie this year.     

Good night to you all and God bless. 
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 01:42:46 AM
While I'm a TWBB advocate, it feels absurd that it has to compete with Old Country, another very good movie. It brought back memories of Magnolia competing with American Beauty.

I'm completely fine with PTA not winning anything.

Did the Coens look like the least enthusiastic Oscar recipients of all time, or what?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Bethie on February 25, 2008, 02:40:54 AM
My friend tried to get me to drink box wine. Gross. We did an Oscar pool, we both pretty much chose the same nominees. When Elizabeth took the first award, we were in deep trouble. I was so wrong on so many! Tilda? she looks like Eric Stoltz!

Truthfully I only wanted to see PTA in a suit. My friend kept laughing at me cause I simply call him "Paul."  He said I talk about PTA like he's my cousin.

and who knew DDL was so hot? (cut to P saying "Rebecca Miller")
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Reinhold on February 25, 2008, 07:34:15 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 01:42:46 AM
Did the Coens look like the least enthusiastic Oscar recipients of all time, or what?

No, they just seemed a little stoned.

Quote from: bethie
(cut to P saying "Rebecca Miller")
i heard he's not posting until PTA's next film.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: grand theft sparrow on February 25, 2008, 08:52:56 AM
The highlight of the night for me was seeing what Roderick Jaynes looks like.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: ©brad on February 25, 2008, 09:00:55 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 01:42:46 AMDid the Coens look like the least enthusiastic Oscar recipients of all time, or what?

hahah, yeah it's just the way they are. i do believe they were genuinely honored and happy to win.

ethan's speech (or lack thereof) was priceless.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 09:13:17 AM
Quote from: polkablues on February 24, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Stefen on February 24, 2008, 10:26:18 PM
They gave the orig screenplay to THAT hack?

Invalidated.  :yabbse-thumbdown:

But you have to admit that was a sincere, emotional acceptance. 

No way, man. So since she's a cute girl we're supposed to overlook her hackiness? Way to fall right into her trap! That's the whole reason she's even where she is to begin with! Then she has the nerve to dedicate it to writers like herself? HACK.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Chest Rockwell on February 25, 2008, 09:21:16 AM
Quote from: polkablues on February 24, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
Classiest moment of the night: letting Marketa Irglova back on stage.
That was the best part of the night! Her speech was also great. I'm not a fan of Once or that song, but that was a pretty cute moment.

The New York Times' post-mortem analysis (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/25/movies/awardsseason/25osca.html?hp) irritates me quite a bit. They seem to be blaming the Academy for the lack of any big popular pictures getting much recognition, saying "the trend threatens to turn the yearly ritual into a niche affair instead of a shared national experience." And they also listed big names that have been nominated before but "went empty-handed" like Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts, Denzel Washington. What should the Academy do? Make Transformers Best Picture? This was maybe the first year in a while I have been interested, with two films I like (one I love)being the front-runners.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gamblour. on February 25, 2008, 10:11:44 AM
ANY analysis that says that the Academy ostracizes the audience by nominating and awarding films that don't make any money is worthless. God forbid the Academy award films of artistic merit for once! Maybe next year, Tyler Perry for Best Director, and National Treasure 3 for Best Pic.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: grand theft sparrow on February 25, 2008, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 09:13:17 AM
Quote from: polkablues on February 24, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Stefen on February 24, 2008, 10:26:18 PM
They gave the orig screenplay to THAT hack?

Invalidated.  :yabbse-thumbdown:

But you have to admit that was a sincere, emotional acceptance. 

No way, man. So since she's a cute girl we're supposed to overlook her hackiness? Way to fall right into her trap! That's the whole reason she's even where she is to begin with! Then she has the nerve to dedicate it to writers like herself? HACK.

I think I agree with Stefen.   :shock:

There's still a part of me that doesn't want to hate her and found her speech to be authentic and (thankfully) unquirky but he's right.  It's a double edged sword to say that an attractive woman is successful because of her sex appeal (am I calling out sexism in others or making a sexist remark myself?) but I don't think they'd be putting Cody out at the front if she didn't have the stripper backstory.  If she was a 45-year-old mother of three who was inspired by how her teenage daughter talks, it wouldn't have made it to the Oscars, if it had even been made at all.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Alexandro on February 25, 2008, 10:56:21 AM
Quote from: hacksparrow on February 25, 2008, 10:14:19 AM
Quote from: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 09:13:17 AM
Quote from: polkablues on February 24, 2008, 10:55:20 PM
Quote from: Stefen on February 24, 2008, 10:26:18 PM
They gave the orig screenplay to THAT hack?

Invalidated.  :yabbse-thumbdown:

But you have to admit that was a sincere, emotional acceptance. 

No way, man. So since she's a cute girl we're supposed to overlook her hackiness? Way to fall right into her trap! That's the whole reason she's even where she is to begin with! Then she has the nerve to dedicate it to writers like herself? HACK.

I think I agree with Stefen.   :shock:

There's still a part of me that doesn't want to hate her and found her speech to be authentic and (thankfully) unquirky but he's right.  It's a double edged sword to say that an attractive woman is successful because of her sex appeal (am I calling out sexism in others or making a sexist remark myself?) but I don't think they'd be putting Cody out at the front if she didn't have the stripper backstory.  If she was a 45-year-old mother of three who was inspired by how her teenage daughter talks, it wouldn't have made it to the Oscars, if it had even been made at all.

whatever, the real problem with her winning is that Juno's screenplay is not half as good as the Michael Clayton one. I haven't seen The Savages, but it looks like that's another really strong screenplay. i hope diablo cody gets better as a writer, so she can prove this thing wasn't so underserved.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 11:02:11 AM
It was a flavor of the month pick. Unless she goes on to do something like adapt Vonnegut successfully, this award will always make me consider her a hack.

Maybe I'm just putting too much stock into the award. I feel writing awards are some of the most prestigious awards at the Oscars or any awards show and her winning for that MTV movie is a travesty in my opinion. She's not a writer. She's just a story.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: grand theft sparrow on February 25, 2008, 11:11:04 AM
Quote from: Alexandro on February 25, 2008, 10:56:21 AM
i hope diablo cody gets better as a writer, so she can prove this thing wasn't so underserved.


If she gets better, she'll actually be proving that this win was undeserved.  And if she ends up being a one-trick pony, she'll still prove that it was undeserved.  In any case, this was undeserved.  



Now that we're all caught up in award fever, when will the 'Xaxies nomination process begin?  And should we even bother with a Best Film category this year or just give it right to Blood?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 11:12:39 AM
I can't bring myself to see Juno. I just can't.

At the same time, I'm trying not to hate Diablo Cody just because she beat PTA.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 25, 2008, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 11:12:39 AM
At the same time, I'm trying not to hate Diablo Cody just because she beat PTA.

how did she beat him?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 11:19:10 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 25, 2008, 11:17:35 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 11:12:39 AM
At the same time, I'm trying not to hate Diablo Cody just because she beat PTA.

how did she beat him?

Yeah, she won for Original. PTA was in the Adapted. Hate the Coens.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 11:23:57 AM
She beat him at a popularity contest, not at a competition of who can write better words on a fucking computer screen. PTA leaves her in the dust in that game. Just totally annihilates her.

If PTA had a pair of breasts, a story about how he stripped for a day, and a long drawn out battle with caffeine addiction then the awards would be cancelled anytime he had a movie come out because they'd just give them all to him. And he'd deserve it because he's good and creative and has legit ideas that he can put to screen.

Also, Sydney was funnier than Juno.

Spontaneous friction >> Hamburger phones.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 11:27:49 AM
Stefen is right in a sense, but I did mean it literally. Woops. I need to think before I post. :doh:

Quote from: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 11:19:10 AMHate the Coens.

That's the problem. I can't. This whole competition thing just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: ©brad on February 25, 2008, 11:37:50 AM
Quote from: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 11:02:11 AMShe's not a writer. She's just a story.

yep. call it the jennifer hudson "this makes the best story" award.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Pozer on February 25, 2008, 01:26:40 PM
Academy Screws Renfro, In Memoriam
Posted Feb 25th 2008 1:34PM by TMZ Staff

So in case you missed it, Brad Renfro was ignored during the "in memoriam" montage on the Oscars last night. You're not gonna believe the statement the Academy gave TMZ.

The tape featured 98 movie types who died in the last year. They included actors, studio execs, makeup artists, agents, and on and on. Renfro was nowhere to be seen. We asked the Academy why and they gave us the following statement: "It is simply not possible to include everyone in that segment."

Interesting. Renfro, whose credits include "The Client," "Apt Pupil" and "Sleepers," seems like a bigger player than Margaret Gardner, the head of the international division of a P.R. firm.

Someone in Renfro's world called the slap in the face "unbelievable and disgusting." We couldn't have said it better ourselves.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 02:55:13 PM
It really was a huge omission. I fail to see whether it was intentional or not.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: polkablues on February 25, 2008, 03:12:31 PM
I will never fully understand all the Juno backlash that's going on. Granted, I think the Oscar was a bit much, but it's a movie that I genuinely like and admire, completely irrespective of whatever extratextual bullshit people keep bringing into it about the fucking screenwriter. I don't give a shit what Diablo Cody blogged about, or how long she was a stripper, or what her real fucking name is, I just like the damn movie she wrote!
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Stefen on February 25, 2008, 03:39:59 PM
Hey, it is what it is. If Napoleon Dynamite was written by someone who's claim to fame was being a stripper for a day (and it wasn't even a full shift. She just served drinks for a couple hours) then I'm sure it would have been nominated for major awards too.

The movie had it's moments, but it was ultimately forgettable. Type of movie where you watch half and spend the rest of the movie trying to talk your date into giving you a handjob. It was so manipulative it made me sick. It was instant chocolate pudding with strawberries added. It tastes good but compared to a four star dessert it's junk.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 25, 2008, 03:44:51 PM
yeah and lets be honest here.. DDL winning again was a great story and thats about it. his performance wasn't that great or anything.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 04:05:55 PM
The full DDL intro and acceptance:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_vhW6eie8U
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 25, 2008, 04:20:12 PM
Quote from: polkablues on February 25, 2008, 03:12:31 PM
I will never fully understand all the Juno backlash that's going on. Granted, I think the Oscar was a bit much, but it's a movie that I genuinely like and admire, completely irrespective of whatever extratextual bullshit people keep bringing into it about the fucking screenwriter. I don't give a shit what Diablo Cody blogged about, or how long she was a stripper, or what her real fucking name is, I just like the damn movie she wrote!

People are actually giving good reasons to why they don't like it. The reviews in the original thread are thoughtful and detailed. The discussion about Diablo Cody's personal life is a side issue. I had a personal reaction to Juno when I saw it, but I fleshed out my thoughts with a second review. Even when I do consider all the pros and cons of the film it still isn't very good.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Chest Rockwell on February 25, 2008, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 11:27:49 AM
Stefen is right in a sense, but I did mean it literally. Woops. I need to think before I post. :doh:
Well, she did beat him to an Oscar.

Diablo Cody - 1
PTA - 0

And that's the travesty.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 25, 2008, 07:53:55 PM
Quote from: Chest Rockwell on February 25, 2008, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on February 25, 2008, 11:27:49 AM
Stefen is right in a sense, but I did mean it literally. Woops. I need to think before I post. :doh:
Well, she did beat him to an Oscar.

Diablo Cody - 1
PTA - 0

And that's the travesty.

it is? really? PTA will be the next altman or scorsese in the eyes of the academy.. so its a travesty somebody gets a one-time oscar when she had her big 15 minutes? .... really? travesty?   i really don't think so.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 08:26:44 PM
Cody deserves her Oscar more than Matt and Ben do.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: polkablues on February 25, 2008, 08:47:18 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet on February 25, 2008, 04:20:12 PM
Quote from: polkablues on February 25, 2008, 03:12:31 PM
I will never fully understand all the Juno backlash that's going on. Granted, I think the Oscar was a bit much, but it's a movie that I genuinely like and admire, completely irrespective of whatever extratextual bullshit people keep bringing into it about the fucking screenwriter. I don't give a shit what Diablo Cody blogged about, or how long she was a stripper, or what her real fucking name is, I just like the damn movie she wrote!

People are actually giving good reasons to why they don't like it. The reviews in the original thread are thoughtful and detailed. The discussion about Diablo Cody's personal life is a side issue. I had a personal reaction to Juno when I saw it, but I fleshed out my thoughts with a second review. Even when I do consider all the pros and cons of the film it still isn't very good.

There are some very substantive and well-reasoned arguments against Juno's quality, and I actually agree with many of them, despite my personal like of the film.  My problem is that the vast majority of the criticism I keep seeing falls into only two categories: "The dialogue is unrealistic" and "Diablo Cody is a pretentious hipster".  The former is certainly true, though it's akin to slamming a musical just because someone thinks it's unrealistic that the characters keep breaking into song.  The latter, however, is possibly true but entirely irrelevant.  It just bugs me that for every genuine critique of the movie, there's a dozen ad hominem attacks on Diablo Cody drowning it out.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: ©brad on February 25, 2008, 08:59:37 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 08:26:44 PM
Cody deserves her Oscar more than Matt and Ben do.

say whaaaaaat?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: polkablues on February 25, 2008, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on February 25, 2008, 08:59:37 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 08:26:44 PM
Cody deserves her Oscar more than Matt and Ben do.

say whaaaaaat?

I'm assuming his point is that she actually wrote the script that she won for.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 09:31:15 PM
Quote from: polkablues on February 25, 2008, 09:09:45 PM
Quote from: ©MBBrad on February 25, 2008, 08:59:37 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on February 25, 2008, 08:26:44 PM
Cody deserves her Oscar more than Matt and Ben do.

say whaaaaaat?

I'm assuming his point is that she actually wrote the script that she won for.

One could argue that Matt and Ben's "story" of being bit players who wrote a script for themselves to star in, and held out for that opportunity (much like Sly and Rocky - also a Screenplay Oscar winner) played a factor into their winning the Original Screenplay Oscar. Cody is a far better writer; her book shows this. I'm not denying that her stripper background didn't come into play with the voters, but Juno has a freshness to it and heart that Good Will Hunting doesn't have.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: JG on February 25, 2008, 09:56:45 PM
dude diablo cody is not a hipster. she's not hip!
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: MacGuffin on February 26, 2008, 12:38:45 AM
Oscar ratings fall to all-time low
Telecast nabs smallest audience on record

In what could hardly be dubbed a surprise, Sunday's Academy Awards telecast on ABC took a tumble in the ratings, logging the show's smallest audience on record.

A batch of films with mostly grim themes, combined with an awards season that lacked any real momentum thanks to the writers strike, contributed to this year's alarming 20% falloff.

Preliminary Nielsen estimates show that an average of 32 million viewers were watching at any given minute during Sunday's three-hour-plus telecast hosted by Jon Stewart, with viewership peaking around 10 p.m.

While still a huge audience relative to that of most primetime fare, it's less than one-third the crowd generated by the Super Bowl on Fox earlier this month (97.5 million). It's also a smaller aud, by comparison, than those drawn to several other National Football League playoff games as well as the premiere episode this season of Fox's "American Idol."

Don't feel too badly for ABC, though, as the net sold most of its ad inventory prior to the start of the writers strike -- and made a nice profit by selling its 30-second spots for a whopping $1.8 million each. This year's ratings perf could hurt next year's ad sales, however.

Sunday's audience was down sharply from last year's 40.17 million and also below the kudocast's previous low-water mark of 33.04 million in 2003 (a show held just days after the country went to war in Iraq).

This year's Oscars had its own hurdles to overcome, most notably the four-month writers strike, which cut into preparation time for producers and writers.

ABC didn't have a lot of momentum heading into Sunday, either, lacking original episodes of its femme magnets "Grey's Anatomy" and "Desperate Housewives" to promote the kudocast. Also likely a factor was the selection of host, as there wasn't the curiosity factor that accompanied Stewart's first Oscar gig two years ago.

And then there were the nominees themselves, mostly little-seen pics and numerous foreign-born thesps, many of whom took home Oscars on Sunday.

The show averaged a 10.7 rating in adults 18-49, down 24% from last year (14.1) and 14% below the previous low of 2003 (12.5).

The top five highest-rated markets were New York (30.6 household rating/44 share), Chicago (29.1/43), San Francisco (27.2/47), West Palm Beach, Fla. (26.1/39), and Los Angeles (25.6/41). A year ago, New York generated a 35.3 rating and Los Angeles a 32.0.

There wasn't much competition on the other broadcast nets Sunday night, although it wouldn't be surprising to see ABC's rivals more aggressively counterprogram the Oscars in future years if its ratings continue to slide.

Fox ran second with a NASCAR race and a repeat of "The Simpsons," while CBS was down a bit week to week with "Big Brother" (prelim 2.2/5 in 18-49, 5.7 million) and "Dexter" (prelim 2.0/5, 6.5 million). NBC struggled to a 3 share in 18-49 and fewer than 5 million viewers overall with four repeats of "Law & Order: Criminal Intent."

National ratings for all Sunday shows, including ABC's other Oscar-related programming, will be issued by Nielsen today. In prelims, the "Oscars Red Carpet 2008" spec in the 8 o'clock half-hour leading into the kudocast averaged a 6.3 rating in 18-49 and 21.5 million viewers overall.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 26, 2008, 12:41:57 AM
Quote from: JG on February 25, 2008, 09:56:45 PM
dude diablo cody is not a hipster. she's not hip!

uh, those two are NOT mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: JG on February 26, 2008, 12:59:25 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 26, 2008, 12:41:57 AM
Quote from: JG on February 25, 2008, 09:56:45 PM
dude diablo cody is not a hipster. she's not hip!

uh, those two are NOT mutually exclusive.

maybe i don't know what the term means, but to call diablo cody a hipster is to not give the hipsters enough credit. every person i know that i would define as a hipster rags on juno. not trying to defend hipsters, i'm just saying.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: hedwig on February 26, 2008, 05:17:12 AM
did anybody else catch Gary Busey terrorizing Jennifer Garner and Ryan Seacrest on the red carpet before the show? Garner looked terrified. easily the most entertaining moment of the night.

another pre-show oddity: Regis passing by Javier Bardem and saying "And here's Xavier Bardem!"
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Kal on February 26, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
I saw that with Busey... very funny. It seemed like Seacrest didnt know who he was for a moment...

Ratings thing completely obvious... it was probably the most interesting Oscars in a while in terms of 'TALENT' and good films, but who the fuck wants to see that? Bring nominations for Justin Timberlake and Brangelina, and performances by Britney and Eminem and America will watch!
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Alexandro on February 26, 2008, 02:51:25 PM
I haven't read her book but the Good Will Hunting scrypt is better at doing the screenplay stuff without being so obvious. Every character in Hunting has a distinct voice and dignity.

Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 26, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: kal on February 26, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
Ratings thing completely obvious... it was probably the most interesting Oscars in a while in terms of 'TALENT' and good films, but who the fuck wants to see that?

i really think a lot of it had to do with lack of media attention too.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: Sleepless on February 26, 2008, 05:22:31 PM
Anyone else notice how pissed off she looked when they made her exit stage-right?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: RegularKarate on February 26, 2008, 05:59:41 PM
My improv troupe was on the drive back from a festival while the Oscars were airing.
On the way up, I bought a shitty portable TV (with a cigarette light adapter).  The antenna broke off that TV so I bought another antenna at radioshack, then THAT antenna broke.
It still kind of barely worked, but driving in and out of different cities while trying to watch them made it very difficult, having one person looking up local affiliates of the cities we were driving through while another was constantly swinging the antenna around as the six people in the van watched on this five inch tube.

We heard "and the oscar for best original screenplay goBzzzzzzzzzzzzshhhhhhhhhhhhffzzzzzfzzzzLO CODY!"   

everyone in the van was pissed.

at least falling slowly won.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: theyarelegion on February 26, 2008, 09:13:51 PM
Quote from: Sleepless on February 26, 2008, 05:22:31 PM
Anyone else notice how pissed off she looked when they made her exit stage-right?

Diablo, right? She yanked the envelope out of Harrison Ford's hand too.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 26, 2008, 11:57:29 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on February 26, 2008, 05:59:41 PM
My improv troupe was on the drive back from a festival

DSIF in NC??
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: grand theft sparrow on February 27, 2008, 09:39:11 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 26, 2008, 03:22:21 PM
Quote from: kal on February 26, 2008, 01:13:06 PM
Ratings thing completely obvious... it was probably the most interesting Oscars in a while in terms of 'TALENT' and good films, but who the fuck wants to see that?

i really think a lot of it had to do with lack of media attention too.

On Monday night, I heard three people say they changed the channel during the Amy Adams cleaning song from Enchanted and never went back.
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: RegularKarate on February 27, 2008, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 26, 2008, 11:57:29 PM
DSIF in NC??

yup... were you there?
Title: Re: The 80th Annual Academy Awards
Post by: cine on February 27, 2008, 05:43:39 PM
Quote from: RegularKarate on February 27, 2008, 11:58:23 AM
Quote from: Cinephile on February 26, 2008, 11:57:29 PM
DSIF in NC??

yup... were you there?

no but good friends of mine did.. toronto's Kevin Patrick Robbins and the harold team Little American Bastards.