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Time Compiles List of 100 Greatest Films

A list of the greatest films of all time without "North by Northwest?" No "Annie Hall," "Bicycle Thief" or "Apocalypse Now"? Take a deep breath and relax. This is supposed to be fun.

The movie critics for Time magazine, Richard Schickel and Richard Corliss, have compiled an unranked list of the 100 greatest films. It was posted Sunday on www.Time.com. Included are traditionally acclaimed flicks like "Lawrence of Arabia," "Casablanca" and "Citizen Kane," as well as more atypical choices like "Finding Nemo," "Star Wars" and the 2002 Brazilian gang story, "City of God."

Disagree? Schickel says that's the idea.

"100 lists are fun to discuss, fun to argue over," Schickel told The Associated Press. "I don't think anybody should say, `That's it, that's the final 100! No disputing this for the rest of eternity!' You know, stuff changes. Life changes. You change."

That perspective is even more difficult for contemporary movies, says the critic who has also produced many documentaries and led the acclaimed reconstruction of Samuel Fuller's 1980 war pic, "The Big Red One" Recent films on the list include Pedro Almodovar's "Talk to Her," the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy and, of course, "Pulp Fiction."

Schickel acknowledges some regret for a few older reviews of his like not trumpeting "Bonnie and Clyde" more or failing to immediately recognize "Chinatown" as "close to a perfect movie." All the original reviews from Time will be linked on the subscription Web site but perusing old write-ups can be a cringing experience for a critic.

Though it was before Schickel's time, the original 1942 review of "Casablanca," for example, read, "Nothing short of an invasion could add much to `Casablanca.'"

"If you're involved with movies, they are a living organism in your memory," Schickel says. "It's like some creature in a sci-fi movie that keeps shape-shifting."

The most popular director turned out to be Martin Scorsese, who has three films on the list. Scorsese's frequent actor of choice, Robert De Niro, leads actors with five.

Since Schickel and Corliss also have divergent tastes, much of the finalized list is one of compromise.

"Most 100 lists are the product of a single sensibility and this is a compromised list because his sensibility and mine, I think, agreed between 40 percent and 50 percent of the time ... and then it gets to a wrangle."

In Monday's issue of the magazine, the two critics also name the best film from each decade since Time began: "Metropolis" (1927), "Dodsworth" (1936), "Citizen Kane" (1941), "Ikiru" (1952), "Persona" (1966), "Chinatown" (1974), "Decalogue" (1988), "Pulp Fiction" (1994) and "Talk to Her" (2002).

But Schickel still says to reserve any great reverence for the result of their toil.

"In a way this is supposed to be fun. ... The notion that any kind of movie reviewing or movie commentary is an opinion handed down from on high by somebody in judicial robes is nonsensical. They're all kind of first opinions and depends on, I don't know, what you ate for breakfast that morning."

http://www.time.com/time/2005/100movies/the_complete_list.html


Aguirre: the Wrath of God (1972)

The Apu Trilogy (1955, 1956, 1959)

The Awful Truth (1937)

Baby Face (1933)

Bande à part (1964)

Barry Lyndon (1975)

Berlin Alexanderplatz (1980)

Blade Runner (1982)

Bonnie and Clyde (1967)

Brazil (1985)

Bride of Frankenstein (1935)

Camille (1936)

Casablanca (1942)

Charade (1963)

Children of Paradise (1945)

Chinatown (1974)

Chungking Express (1994)

Citizen Kane (1941)

City Lights (1931)

City of God (2002)

Closely Watched Trains (1966)

The Crime of Monsieur Lange (1936)

The Crowd (1928)

Day for Night (1973)

The Decalogue (1989)

Detour (1945)

The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie (1972)

Dodsworth (1936)

Double Indemnity (1944)

Dr. Strangelove: or How I Learned to Stop
Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)

Drunken Master II (1994)

E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982)

8 1/2 (1963)

The 400 Blows (1959)

Farewell My Concubine (1993)

Finding Nemo (2003)

The Fly (1986)

The Godfather, Parts I and II (1972, 1974)

The Good, The Bad and The Ugly (1966)

Goodfellas (1990)

A Hard Day's Night (1964)

His Girl Friday (1940)

Ikiru (1952)

In A Lonely Place (1950)

Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1956)

It's A Gift (1934)

It's A Wonderful Life (1946)

Kandahar (2001)

Kind Hearts and Coronets (1949)

King Kong (1933)

The Lady Eve (1941)

The Last Command (1928)

Lawrence of Arabia (1962)

Léolo (1992)

The Lord of the Rings (2001-03)

The Man With a Camera (1929)

The Manchurian Candidate (1962)

Meet Me in St. Louis (1944)

Metropolis (1927)

Miller's Crossing (1990)

Mon oncle d'Amérique (1980)

Mouchette (1967)

Nayakan (1987)

Ninotchka (1939)

Notorious (1946)

Olympia, Parts 1 and 2 (1938)

On the Waterfront (1954)

Once Upon a Time in the West (1968)

Out of the Past (1947)

Persona (1966)

Pinocchio (1940)

Psycho (1960)

Pulp Fiction (1994)

The Purple Rose of Cairo (1985)

Pyaasa (1957)

Raging Bull (1980)

Schindler's List (1993)

The Searchers (1956)

Sherlock, Jr. (1924)

The Shop Around the Corner (1940)

Singin' in the Rain (1952)

The Singing Detective (1986)

Smiles of a Summer Night (1955)

Some Like It Hot (1959)

Star Wars (1977)

A Streetcar Named Desire (1951)

Sunrise (1927)

Sweet Smell of Success (1957)

Swing Time (1936)

Talk to Her (2002)

Taxi Driver (1976)

Tokyo Story (1953)

A Touch of Zen (1971)

Ugetsu (1953)

Ulysses' Gaze (1995)

Umberto D (1952)

Unforgiven (1992)

White Heat (1949)

Wings of Desire (1987)

Yojimbo (1961)

I love Barry Lyndon, but why not 2001 if they're going to pick a Kubrick film? That seems really odd. Hell, even Clockwork Orange is a bigger achievement in my opinion.

Few real objections except... Finding Nemo?

i've seen 63.  

also: The Singing Detective was a TV mini-series, not a film.  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090521/

Quote from: themodernage02also: The Singing Detective was a TV mini-series, not a film.  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090521/

Why did you single that one out?  Hell, their best film for the decade of the 80s was a mini-series.

The list is just as good as any other list I suppose.  Finding Nemo is surprising if not random, but so is Detour, The Fly, and The Purple Rose of Cairo.  I don't think Kandahar would have made the list any other day.

The Fly is a funny pick. Miller's Crossing is a strange one, why not Fargo or Barton Fink? Why Ikiru and not Seven Samurai or Rashomon? 2001 is missing. But it seems interesting that Persona is their best film of the 60s, which is a great choice. 2001 has to be on there. And I've never even heard of Dodsworth.

i think at this point, the lists are concious of other lists.  if no one had ever sat down to make a 'best of all time' list then more obvious choices like 2001 or apocalypse now or whatever would definitely be on it.  but it seems like by now, theres been SO MANY lists, the only way to really make yours different is by substituting a handful of random choices among the many classics to get  people to be like 'hey, i've seen all those movies but that one,  i'll have to check it out."  which is kind of good idea, but dumb.

i cant believe 2001 and apacolypse now arent on here

this list can go fuck itself

Why do people even care about a "greatest films" list made by two magazine writers?

i guess the same reasons they cared about a list of obscure recommendations from a complete stranger on a message board.

Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanWhy do people even care about a "greatest films" list made by two magazine writers?

I read that and then clicked back to make sure that indeed just one topic up from this one was a list topic started by you.

Lists are obviously interesting, and furthermore conversation can arise from them.

Care is a bit of an overkill, but hell, these guys made the lists for us to talk about and some of us did, 03 made a list and people talked about it, so we know for sure:  people talk about lists.

If Xixax did a favorites movie list I'd participate.  Jeremy you should organize it, I'll count if you're busy, and obviously it sould be done anonymously.  A point system I imagine, perhaps a top 20 with a reverse point scale.  Also, there could be links from the movies to the topics about the movies, so that repeat topics would not occur for at least 100 movies.  Then it could be broken down into directors with the most movies on the list too, which is what I'd be more interested in.

Something like that has probably been done here at Xixax before, and if so I'd like to be linked, and if not it should be done now.  It could be fun, interesting, and put a little action back into the board.  Hell, maybe it wouldn't even turn into a bitchfest.

Quote from: Losing the Horse:If Xixax did a favorites movie list I'd participate.  Jeremy you should organize it, I'll count if you're busy, and obviously it sould be done anonymously.  A point system I imagine, perhaps a top 20 with a reverse point scale.  Also, there could be links from the movies to the topics about the movies, so that repeat topics would not occur for at least 100 movies.  Then it could be broken down into directors with the most movies on the list too, which is what I'd be more interested in.

Something like that has probably been done here at Xixax before, and if so I'd like to be linked, and if not it should be done now.  It could be fun, interesting, and put a little action back into the board.  Hell, maybe it wouldn't even turn into a bitchfest.

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=5109

Oh wow.  That was really fancy, too.

That's over a year old and only 15 movies long, so if someone with seniority is down to sponsor I'm still down to help with my proposed 100 list idea.

Schickel is one of the best critics working today, and is much more thoughtful than Corliss.

It is strange, Schickel originally panned Taxi Driver in 1976, now it's in the Top 100 of all time.   I think it's odd to put Purple Rose of Cairo in lieu of Annie Hall or Manhattan (in fact, Manhattan made the cover of Time in 1979).

Where was Birth of a Nation, Intolerance or Battleship Potempkin?

Quote from: Losing the Horse:Oh wow.  That was really fancy, too.

That's over a year old and only 15 movies long, so if someone with seniority is down to sponsor I'm still down to help with my proposed 100 list idea.

more often than not you're a fucking smart ass. just thought i'd do you the favor of making you aware of how your tone is percieved, regardless of it's intent.

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Quote from: Losing the Horse:Oh wow.  That was really fancy, too.

That's over a year old and only 15 movies long, so if someone with seniority is down to sponsor I'm still down to help with my proposed 100 list idea.

more often than not you're a fucking smart ass. just thought i'd do you the favor of making you aware of how your tone is percieved, regardless of it's intent.

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I am a smart ass.  Which should be fine, becaue as far as I can tell this board is full of smart asses, and we'll probably all get along fine once I stop calling you guys out and once you guys stop calling me out.  So take your helpful suggestion back and fuck yourself, or pm me and we'll talk about it without taking yet another topic off topic.

Also, I wasn't being a smart ass in that comment you quoted.  At all.  I'd say fifteen banners is fancy.

Also, if you're going to pm me, you should tell me what you're doing over the summer, because I live by LA.  Are you still in school, or are you working on anything, etc.  I'm always down for meeting a new filmmaker.  Meatball is heading out to the east coast soon I guess, so maybe we should all get together and try to make a Xixax film on DV before he leaves.  No that's actually a terrible idea.  I don't know, we'll think of something, if something needs to be thought of.  Tell me what the word is.

thats an okay list, lotsa good titles.  more than a few fucking question marks on there, but whatever.   it's alright.    

their choices for best of the decade, however, are absolutely ridiculous.

and i would do a 100 favorites list, that'd be fun.  unless its been done here already (which i dont think it has)...i've already done it myself three or four times out of boredom with the latter end of senior year, which is slowly, slowly drifting away............

two kubricks are better than none. at least they didn't list clockworange, or kibill.

Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkMiller's Crossing is a strange one, why not Fargo or Barton Fink?

Quote from: Richard CorlissI for one still don't get Fargo, which seems to be about how the folks in Minnesota (the Coen's home state) talk funny and act criminally stupid.

The credibility of the omissions would be more interesting than the credibility of what's on the list, I think.  Every one of those films has a valid reason to be on there but I'm more interested in the arguments for the glaring omissions, like the aforementioned 2001 and Apocalypse Now.  Or why only one Hitchcock?

If these guys want to do something original, they should rank every film ever made in one list.  Why stop at 100 when there are tens of thousands of films to choose from? Do 'em all!

Ever since AFI did the Top 100 Films, everyone else has to get into the act.

The new issue of GQ has an article about the 25 Best Bad Films of All Time, which is more interesting than Time's Top 100.  Atop GQ's list is Road House.

Quote from: soixanteEver since AFI did the Top 100 Films, everyone else has to get into the act.

What I've never understood about AFI's top 100 was why did they do it in 1998?  Why couldn't they wait a couple of years until 2000 and then do the entire 1900's?  That has always bugged me.

Quote from: Losing the Horse:I read that and then clicked back to make sure that indeed just one topic up from this one was a list topic started by you.

Lists are obviously interesting, and furthermore conversation can arise from them.

Care is a bit of an overkill, but hell, these guys made the lists for us to talk about and some of us did, 03 made a list and people talked about it, so we know for sure:  people talk about lists.

These kinds of gradiose all-time greatest lists (the ones widely published, at least) are usually compiled from a large mass of critics and somewhat important people. I was simply pointing out that people are assigning similar importance to this list compiled by two people.

(And comparing those kinds of lists with lists on a message board is kind of strange.)

Quote from: Losing the Horse:That's over a year old and only 15 movies long, so if someone with seniority is down to sponsor I'm still down to help with my proposed 100 list idea.

A 100 list would be nice, but it just wouldn't work with the number of votes we're likely to receive.

listen to the critics discuss the list...

http://img.timeinc.net/time/2005/100movies/corschick_final.mp3

i want to see a thread of everyone's top 100 favorite films, i know many of you are anti-list, but it would be interesting to me to look through each one, personal favourites rather than argument and discussion of the cultural aspects and contradictions and flaws of what is in theatres now.   can we revive/create one, or will this create problems?

it would take a while to figure them all out.

-sl-

Off the top of my head, I would have Wizard of Oz, Citizen Kane, It's A Wonderful Life, Sunset Blvd., Streetcar Named Desire, The Searchers, Singin' in the Rain, Touch of Evil, Psycho, Bonnie and Clyde, Point Blank, 2001, Rosemary's Baby, Midnight Cowboy, Easy Rider, MASH, Five Easy Pieces, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Carnal Knowledge, Straw Dogs, Dirty Harry, The Godfather, Deliverance, Mean Streets, American Graffiti, The Conversation, Shampoo, Barry Lyndon, Dog Day Afternoon, Taxi Driver, All The President's Men, Annie Hall, Deer Hunter, All That Jazz, Melvin and Howard, Tootsie, Star 80, This Is Spinal Tap, GoodFellas, The Player, Unforgiven, Reservoir Dogs, True Romance, Dazed and Confused, Pulp Ficton, Boogie Nights...

There are many others, and I haven't even figured out which foreign films to add.

So we should all start working on this and then someone start the thread in a few months, giving everyone enough time to take into consideration every movie they've ever seen.

What's wrong with the current DEKAPENTICON?  

Is everyone just wanting "Dekapenticon x 6.6666666!!!"?

anyone see them on charlie rose last night?

a top 100 would be a major waste of time. u can post em if u want but i dont think anyone will care.

Time's Top 100 omitted Rules of the Game, Grand Illusion, Battleship Potempkin, All Quiet on the Western Front, Breathless.  I can't believe Rules of the Game isn't on the list.  Breathless changed the very syntax of filmmaking, it should've made the cut over Bande a Part.  I read some academic discourse claiming that Breathless is the most important film since Citizen Kane.  I'm sure that the glaring omissions are due to Richard Corlliss' input.  Corliss just doesn't have the gravitas and level of knowledge that Schickel possesses.

I always thought a Top 5 or 10 from a Decade would be a fun list here.  Perhaps start with the 80s.

I was trying to put together a Top 100, and these are the films I would pick from the 80's -- Melvin and Howard, Star 80, Raging Bull, Big Red One, Tootsie, This is Spinal Tap, sex lies and videotape, Something Wild, Blue Velvet, Street Smart.

Here's an all-time Top Ten -- not mine, but what I would expect most film scholars, critics and buffs would put together:

1.  Citizen Kane
2.  The Godfather
3.  Raging Bull
4.  Battleship Potempkin
5.  8 1/2
6.  Bicycle Thief
7.  Seven Samurai
8.  Casablanca
9.  Dr. Strangelove
10.  Lawrence of Arabia

Quote from: SHAFTRI always thought a Top 5 or 10 from a Decade would be a fun list here.  Perhaps start with the 80s.

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=7271&highlight=decadepenticon

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Quote from: WalrusWhaddya think?

I think SHAFTR beat you to it:
http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=5109&start=120

I know I was off by a little bit, I just remember starting a thread on it a while ago.

'Goodfellas' Said Best Film of All Time

Martin Scorsese's classic mobster movie "Goodfellas" is the greatest film of all time, according to the experts at a British film magazine.

The 1990 film, based on the exploits of real life gangster Henry Hill, which starred Ray Liotta, Robert de Niro and Joe Pesci who won an Academy Award for his performance was No. 1 in a "Total Film" magazine poll published Monday.

"Goodfellas has everything, in terms of its technical brilliance, its huge influence on modern film-making and its spikiness and rewatchability," Total Film features editor Jamie Graham told Reuters.

"It is slick, arguably the slickest film ever made. But it is also considered, layered and freighted with meaning."

"Vertigo," Alfred Hitchcock's masterpiece starring Kim Novak as a woman who is haunted by her dual persona, was at No. 2 and "Jaws," the thriller that starred a shark, was third.

"Fight Club," starring Brad Pitt, came fourth, followed by "The Godfather: Part II," Orson Welles' classic "Citizen Kane," "Tokyo Story" directed by Japan's Yasujiro Ozu and "The Empire Strikes Back" the second film in George Lucas' "Star Wars" saga, was eighth.

The "Lord of the Rings" trilogy was at No. 9 and the Cary Grant comedy "His Girl Friday" was tenth.

There are a number of surprises, with the classic wartime drama "Casablanca" only making it to No. 98 and "Lawrence of Arabia" languishing at No. 77.

Other films in the top 25 included "Chinatown" (No. 12); "Manhattan" (No. 13); "Taxi Driver" (No. 14); "It's a Wonderful Life" (No. 15); "Apocalypse Now" (No. 20); "Rear Window" (No. 24) and "Sunset Boulevard" (No. 25).

"By no means were we trying to be perverse, but we were setting out to make a list that was a bit more modern," Graham said.

What an absolutely bizarre list.

it's kinda cool to see a different sort of list that says 'yeah, newer films might be best sometimes too'.  so,  :yabbse-thumbup:  for effort.

spikiness + rewatchability + Fight Club = delegitimatized.

There is so much wrong with that list.  I hate lists.  Lists suck.  Whinewhinewhine.  "Hey, wanna see my list?"

Goodfellas, nay.  Fight Club, yea.  Random.  I'm not even gonna comment further 'cause it's all so silly and subjective.

polkablues said it best.  Nothing else to say, really.

i don't think the list is all that bad.

Quote from: Gamblourspikiness + rewatchability + Fight Club = delegitimatized.

i think the word ur looking for is INVALIDATED.

and yeah, fight club at 4th is pretty damn invalidating. seriously, who's even watched that in the last year? (not counting if it's ur first time watching it cos then ur just a cinematic idiot or too young to be on this site)

seriously, who's even watched that in the last year? (not counting if it's ur first time watching it cos then ur just a cinematic idiot or too young to be on this site)

edit: i watched it when one of my friends got the special edition. ... i think that it was some time in the last year.

i love the movie. i don't think it's #4 ever material, though.

The list is interesting.  At least it is far-ranging -- the top ten includes Fight Club and His Girl Friday.  Quite often, these sorts of lists are rather stodgy, and feature the same films over and over.  Film is a continually evolving medium, and films that don't appear to be classics upon initial release might eventually join the ranks of Citizen Kane and The Godfather.

I think it takes ten years to really see how a film holds up before calling it a classic.  How will Saving Private Ryan play in 2008?  Will Million Dollar Baby be well-regarded in 2014?

There are always stuffy academicians and critics who decry the present state of film, and always complain about how they don't make 'em like they used to.  I recall in the 70's critics were always bitching about the wretched state of current cinema, and now the 70's is regarded as a golden age.

I think the 90's will be regarded as another golden age of cinema.  I think there is a lot of great stuff in this decade, too.

I guarantee you, 20 years from now, critics will be saying, "They don't make 'em like Sideways and Waking Life anymore -- those were the good old days of classic cinema."

I love Magnolia to pieces, but I don't watch it everyday.  I have probably seen Fight Club more than Magnolia because it's quicker.

I think Fight Club was an amazing movie because it encompasses so many different tastes, and gives people something to think about, even if the message is different for everyone.  It might not be the best movie for movies like Citizen Kane was, but it definitely revolutionized the way a lot of people looked at story, cinematography, etc.

It was a popular film that was a bridge for a lot of people into a deeper appreciation for "weird movies" to find out Fight Club is anything but weird.  Fight Club was kind of like Bowling For Columbine in the sense that it sparked a lot of conversation and inspired a lot of people to look into things because of the movie.  Fight Club was definitely not Straw Dogs, but it was Diet Straw Dogs Lite.

I personally like this list, despite the fact that I am not a Fight Club fan.   Finally, we have critics who aren't afraid to say that some of the classics just aren't nearly as good if you take away the "influential factor."   Goodfellas is one of my favorite movies of all time (at least in the top 10), and that has nothing to do with me not seeing enough movies.

As for Fight Club, I'm not a big fan other than the cinematography.   However, I do think--like Pulp Fiction--it will be one of those movies that marks our generation.  It's unfortunate, because I think Magnolia, a vastly superior movie, will be one of those forgotten classics.  I mean I don't know how much cult status Magnolia really has, at least compared to Fight Club.

Interesting least to say the list.

Here's the rest of Total Film's Top 100 List.  

1 GoodFellas
2 Vertigo
3 Jaws
4 Fight Club
5 The Godfather Part II
6 Citizen Kane
7 Tokyo Story
8 The Empire Strikes Back
9 The Lord Of The Rings Trilogy
10 His Girl Friday
11 Persona
12 Chinatown
13 Manhattan
14 Taxi Driver
15 It's A Wonderful Life
16 The Apartment
17 Once Upon A Time In The West
18 All About Eve
19 The Texas Chain Saw Massacre
20 Apocalypse Now
21 Crash
22 Sunrise
23 The Godfather
24 Rear Window
25 Sunset Boulevard
26 The Third Man
27 Some Like It Hot
28 Raging Bull
29 La Regle Du Jeu
30 Reservoir Dogs
31 Pat Garrett And Billy The Kid
32 Les Enfants Du Paradis
33 Star Wars
34 The Searchers
35 A Matter Of Life And Death
36 2001: A Space Odyssey
37 Touch Of Evil
38 Badlands
39 Monty Python And The Holy Grail
40 ET: The Extra-Terrestrial
41 The Last Picture Show
42 One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest
43 Heat
44 Annie Hall
45 Mean Streets
46 Nashville
47 Blade Runner
48 Singin' In The Rain
49 Pulp Fiction
50 It Happened One Night
51 Aliens
52 Sullivan's Travels
53 The Deer Hunter
54 Miller's Crossing
55 Kiss Me Deadly
56 The Shawshank Redemption
57 Sweet Smell Of Success
58 Die Hard
59 Blue Velvet
60 The Outlaw Josey Wales
61 Halloween
62 The Night Of The Hunter
63 The Matrix
64 The Conversation
65 8 1/2
66 Se7en
67 L'Atalante
68 This Is Spinal Tap
69 Sideways
70 Dawn Of The Dead
71 North By Northwest
72 The Terminator
73 Hoop Dreams
74 Raiders Of The Lost Ark
75 The Wild Bunch
76 Close Encounters Of The Third Kind
77 Lawrence Of Arabia
78 The Graduate
79 The Wicker Man
80 Day For Night
81 The Shining
82 Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind
83 The Wizard Of Oz
84 Metropolis
85 The King Of Comedy
86 Kind Hearts And Coronets
87 Donnie Darko
88 Get Carter
89 Rio Bravo
90 Psycho
91 Dekalog
92 Back To The Future
93 Salvador
94 Magnolia
95 The Usual Suspects
96 Stand By Me
97 Trainspotting
98 Casablanca
99 Three Kings
100 Goldfinger

Too random to be good. I think they're trying to sell issues.

The list gives the impression of a group of people sitting around a table, calling out movies that they like and writing them down in the order of which they pop into their heads.

Not that that's any less legitimate a method of making a "best of" list than any other... but this is so random it's impossible to justify the particular placement of any of these films.  Maybe if they weren't ordered; if it was just "here's 100 great films", it would make more sense in that context.

EDIT: I just noticed that "Crash" is number 21 on the list... WTF?!?!!?!??!

Quote from: polkabluesEDIT: I just noticed that "Crash" is number 21 on the list... WTF?!?!!?!??!

Yea, but which one? Actually, nevermind, neither deserve to be that high.

Quote from: polkablues
EDIT: I just noticed that "Crash" is number 21 on the list... WTF?!?!!?!??!

I did a double take with this as well - which Crash is it? (it almost doesn't matter - both are pretty mediocre in my opinion)

Both 2001 and 8 1/2 should be in the top 20.

Quote from: The Gold Trumpet

Quote from: polkabluesEDIT: I just noticed that "Crash" is number 21 on the list... WTF?!?!!?!??!

Yea, but which one? Actually, nevermind, neither deserve to be that high.

You beat me by a second - Damn you

Oh God.  Crash.  Get Carter.

Quote from: JimmyGatorGet Carter.

with Caine not Stallone

Quote from: JimmyGatorOh God.  Get Carter.

Yea, but which one? Actually, nevermind, neither deserve to be that high.

Donnie Darko over Psycho?!? Screw You!

Die Hard over 8 1/2.   Wow.

93 MOVIES OVER MAGNOLIA?!?!


:yabbse-rolleyes:

me over lists.

Porn film Deep Throat on most influential movie list

It joined the likes of Gone With The Wind and Citizen Kane in the Radio Times roll call.

The magazine described the hardcore porn title as "cheerfully trashy, charmingly silly".

Made in 1972, it went on to gross £320 million worldwide.

Its star, Linda Lovelace, later became a fervent anti-pornography campaigner and accused its makers of exploitation.

The Radio Times said: "Certainly the worst film to have major influence (it brought porn out of the back room and into the cinema), but by no means the worst porn film ever made.

"Cheerfully trashy, charmingly silly, this was a phenomenon of its day, a sign that the sexual revolution was in full swing."

The top 100 are included in the Radio Times Guide to Films 2007.

"While many of these movies are truly great, this is not a list of the greatest films of all time," Radio Times film editor Andrew Collins explained.

"These are films, major and minor, whose influence is still felt; time, context and circumstances have made them significant."

The Beatles film A Hard Day`s Night is included because it laid the foundations of the modern pop video.

Disney`s first full-length feature Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs is there, alongside Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (the first buddy movie) and The Maltese Falcon (the blueprint for the film noir detective genre).

The Graduate was chosen because its star Dustin Hoffman "paved the way for other `funny-looking` future screen legends".

The Godfather: Part II made it into the list because "it is unique in being not just equal to, but better than, the original".

Steven Spielberg`s Jaws "redefined the marketing for all future event movies" while Psycho marked the birth of the "modern horror genre".

Only two films made since 2000 appear in the list: animated adventure Shrek and last year`s gay cowboy movie Brokeback Mountain.

Top 100 Landmark Films (in date order)

1 Le Voyage dans la Lune (1902)
2 Life of an American Fireman (1903)
3 The Birth of a Nation (1915)
4 Intolerance (1916)
5 The Cabinet of Dr Caligari (1919)
6 Nanook of the North (1922)
7 Nosferatu, a Symphony of Horrors (1922)
8 Battleship Potemkin (1925)
9 The Gold Rush (1925)
10 Metropolis (1926)
11 The General (1927)
12 It (1927)
13 The Jazz Singer (1927)
14 Napoleon (1927)
15 Un Chien Andalou (1928)
16 Man with a Movie Camera (1929)
17 Frankenstein (1931)
18 M (1931)
19 Scarface (1932)
20 Ecstasy (1933)
21 42nd Street (1933)
22 King Kong (1933)
23 The Private Life of Henry VIII (1933)
24 L`Atalante (1934)
25 Becky Sharp (1935)
26 Triumph of the Will (1935)
27 The Story of a Cheat (1936)
28 Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs (1937)
29 Bringing Up Baby (1938)
30 Gone With The Wind (1939)
31 La Regle du Jeu (1939)
32 Stagecoach (1939)
33 Fantasia (1940)
34 Citizen Kane (1941)
35 The Maltese Falcon (1941)
36 Cat People (1942)
37 Rome, Open City (1945)
38 It`s A Wonderful Life (1946)
39 Song of the South (1946)
40 The Bicycle Thieves (1948)
41 Rashomon (1950)
42 M Hulot`s Holiday (1953)
43 The Robe (1953)
44 Les Diaboliques (1954)
45 On The Waterfront (1954)
46 Rebel Without A Cause (1955)
47 The Court Jester (1956)
48 Vertigo (1958)
49 A Bout de Souffle (1959)
50 The 400 Blows (1959)
51 Psycho (1960)
52 Victim (1961)
53 Dr No (1962)
54 A Fistful of Dollars (1964)
55 A Hard Day`s Night (1964)
56 Blowup (1966)
57 Persona (1966)
58 Bonnie and Clyde (1967)
59 The Chelsea Girls (1967)
60 In The Heat of the Night (1967)
61 The Graduate (1967)
62 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
63 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
64 Easy Rider (1969)
65 A Clockwork Orange (1971)
66 Get Carter (1971)
67 Sweet Sweetback`s Baadasssss Song (1971)
68 Deep Throat (1972)
69 Pink Flamingos (1972)
70 The Poseidon Adventure (1972)
71 The Exorcist (1973)
72 Mean Streets (1973)
73 The Godfather: Part II (1974)
74 The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974)
75 Jaws (1975)
76 Nashville (1975)
77 Picnic at Hanging Rock (1975)
78 Rocky (1976)
79 Annie Hall (1977)
80 Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope (1977)
81 Halloween (1978)
82 National Lampoon`s Animal House (1978)
83 Superman (1978)
84 Alien (1979)
85 Blade Runner (1982)
86 ET the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
87 Tron (1982)
88 This Is Spinal Tap (1984)
89 Blue Velvet (1986)
90 Withnail & I (1986)
91 Do The Right Thing (1989)
92 Jurassic Park (1993)
93 Pulp Fiction (1994)
94 Toy Story (1995)
95 Ring (1998)
96 Festen (1998)
97 The Blair Witch Project (1999)
98 The Matrix (1999)
99 Shrek (2001)
100 Brokeback Mountain (2005)

I actually for the most part really like the list. Some interesting picks.

I like that Brokeback Mountain is on it and that Crash isn't. Meanwhile I figured Lumiere Bros. had to be on it. Their justification for The Graduate is stupid; if that's the reason then shouldn't Little Caesar be on it instead of The Graduate? Peter Lorre would also work; I see M on it, at least.

AFI revisits '100 Years ... 100 Movies'

Gearing up for the next installment of its annual TV special under the banner of "AFI's 100 Years...," the American Film Institute has decided to play it again, Sam.

For the 10th edition of its yearly look at the best in American movies, the AFI will return to the theme of the first show broadcast in 1998, "AFI's 100 Years...100 Movies," and offer a new assessment of the 100 greatest movies of all time.

More than 1,500 jurors, drawn from directors, screenwriters, actors, editors, cinematographers, critics and historians, will be asked to make their choices from a list of 400 American, narrative feature films, including long-standing classics as well as newly eligible films released from 1996-2006. Of the 400 films on the ballot, 44, or about 11%, come from the last decade.

The results will be presented in a three-hour program, directed by Gary Smith, exec produced by Smith and Frederick S. Pierce and produced by Dann Netter and Bob Gazzale, which will air on CBS in June.

The AFI currently envisions creating a new list of the 100 greatest movies of all time every ten years so that it can assemble a decade-by-decade portrait of changing appreciations of American film.

"We needed to think about the 21st century in a way that would enable us to document film history as appropriately as possible," AFI president and CEO Jean Picker Firstenberg explained. "We had to play so much catch up for the first 100 years (of film history), it became clearer and clearer that we needed to think about great movies every ten years, so that we'll have a decade by decade sense of it and be really responsive to the 21st century. We're very excited to see where the jury comes down on this. We think we're going to see shifts and changes."

"We'll be building a volume every ten years, adding to the first list," Gazzale observed.

While Firstenberg has announced she will be retiring this year, the search for her successor is currently under way, and Firstenberg said she expects to remain at her post until the fall, which will allow her to oversee the unveiling of the new list.

When AFI conducted its original poll in 1998, the top ranking films were "Citizen Kane," "Casablanca," "The Godfather," "Gone with the Wind" and "Lawrence of Arabia."

i'm very very interested to see how this list changes. 

Quote from: modage on January 19, 2007, 05:22:48 PM
i'm very very interested to see how this list changes. 

Exact same list except no Mel Gibson films.

Freeman to host AFI countdown
CBS special will include newly eligible films

Morgan Freeman has been tapped to host the 10th installment of AFI's annual movie countdown series.

This year's special, airing June 20 on CBS, will revisit AFI's "100 Years ... 100 Movies" theme, ranking the 100 greatest movies in cinema history. Updated special will include newly eligible films such as "American Beauty," "Titanic" and "The Lord of the Rings."

Special will include appearances by Halle Berry, Peter Bogdanovich, Laurence Fishburne, Peter Fonda, Harrison Ford, William Friedkin, Dennis Hopper, Norman Jewison, Spike Lee, Shirley MacLaine, Malcolm McDowell, Liza Minnelli, Sydney Pollack, Debbie Reynolds, Martin Scorsese, Martin Sheen and M. Night Shyamalan.

Oh, my God!  I just realized that Crash is going to be on this fucking list.

Quote from: SPARR•O on June 20, 2007, 07:12:10 PM
Oh, my God!  I just realized that Crash is going to be on this fucking list.

thankfully not.

Facts about AFI's top-100 movies, then and now
Source: The Associated Press

Here are some facts and trivia about the American Film Institute's new list of top-100 U.S. movies, with some comparisons to the institute's first such list in 1998:

— Out of the 43 newly eligible films released from 1996 to 2006, only four made the new top-100 list: "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring," "Saving Private Ryan," "Titanic" and "The Sixth Sense."

— Nineteen other movies that failed to make the cut in 1998 landed on the list this time: "The General," "Intolerance," "Nashville," "Sullivan's Travels," "Cabaret," "Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?," "The Shawshank Redemption," "In the Heat of the Night," "All the President's Men," "Spartacus," "Sunrise," "A Night at the Opera," "12 Angry Men," "Swing Time," "Sophie's Choice," "The Last Picture Show," "Do the Right Thing," "Blade Runner" and "Toy Story."

— Twenty-three films on the 1998 list dropped out of the top-100 this time: "Dr. Zhivago," "The Birth of a Nation," "From Here to Eternity," "Amadeus," "All Quiet on the Western Front," "The Third Man," "Fantasia," "Rebel Without a Cause," "Stagecoach," "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," "The Manchurian Candidate," "An American in Paris," "Wuthering Heights," "Dances With Wolves," "Giant," "Fargo," "Mutiny on the Bounty," "Frankenstein," "Patton," "The Jazz Singer," "My Fair Lady," "A Place in the Sun" and "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner."

— The earliest film represented is 1916's "Intolerance" and the newest is 2001's "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring."

— The 1970s is the most-represented decade, with 20 films.

— Only three films hold the same rank they held on the 1998 list: "Citizen Kane" at No. 1, "The Godfather Part II at No. 32 and "The Best Years of Our Lives" at No. 37.

this list is bullshit but nevertheless..

happy
-birth of a nation replaced by intolerance
-all of the new inclusions except spartacus (just realised that means even MORE kubrick on the list :yabbse-smiley: )
-no crash

not happy
-FARGO IS OUT

AFI's 100 Years...100 Movies

1. Citizen Kane, 1941
2.The Godfather, 1972
3. Casablanca, 1942
4. Raging Bull, 1980
5. Singin' in the Rain, 1952
6. Gone With the Wind, 1939
7. Lawrence of Arabia, 1962
8. Schindler's List, 1993
9. Vertigo, 1958
10. The Wizard of Oz, 1939
11. City Lights, 1931
12. The Searchers, 1956
13. Star Wars, 1977
14. Psycho, 1960
15. 2001: A Space Odyssey, 1968
16. Sunset Blvd., 1950
17. The Graduate, 1967
18. The General, 1927
19. On the Waterfront, 1954
20. It's a Wonderful Life, 1946
21. Chinatown, 1974
22. Some Like It Hot, 1959
23. The Grapes of Wrath, 1940
24. E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial, 1982
25. To Kill a Mockingbird, 1962
26. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, 1939
27. High Noon, 1952
28. All About Eve, 1950
29. Double Indemnity, 1944
30. Apocalypse Now, 1979
31. The Maltese Falcon, 1941
32. The Godfather Part II, 1974
33. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, 1975
34. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs, 1937
35. Annie Hall, 1977
36. The Bridge on the River Kwai, 1957
37. The Best Years of Our Lives, 1946
38. The Treasure of the Sierra Madre, 1948
39. Dr. Strangelove, 1964
40. The Sound of Music, 1965
41. King Kong, 1933
42. Bonnie and Clyde, 1967
43. Midnight Cowboy, 1969
44. The Philadelphia Story, 1940
45. Shane, 1953
46. It Happened One Night, 1934
47. A Streetcar Named Desire, 1951
48. Rear Window, 1954
49. Intolerance, 1916
50. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, 2001
51. West Side Story, 1961
52. Taxi Driver, 1976
53. The Deer Hunter, 1978
54. MASH, 1970
55. North By Northwest, 1959
56. Jaws, 1975
57. Rocky, 1976
58. The Gold Rush, 1925
59. Nashville, 1975
60. Duck Soup, 1933
61. Sullivan's Travels, 1941
62. American Graffiti, 1973
63. Cabaret, 1972
64. Network, 1976
65. The African Queen, 1951
66. Raiders of the Lost Ark, 1981
67. Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? 1966
68. Unforgiven, 1992
69. Tootsie, 1982
70. A Clockwork Orange, 1971
71. Saving Private Ryan, 1998
72. The Shawshank Redemption, 1994
73. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid, 1969
74. The Silence of the Lambs, 1991
75. In The Heat of the Night, 1967
76. Forrest Gump, 1994
77. All the President's Men, 1976
78. Modern Times, 1936
79. The Wild Bunch, 1969
80. The Apartment, 1960
81. Spartacus, 1960
82. Sunrise, 1927
83. Titanic, 7997
84. Easy Rider, 1969
85. A Night at the Opera, 1935
86. Platoon, 1986
87. 12 Angry Men, 1957
88. Bringing Up Baby, 1938
89. The Sixth Sense, 1999
90. Swing Time, 1936
91. Sophie's Choice, 1982
92. Goodfellas, 1990
93. The French Connection, 1971
94. Pulp Fiction, 1994
95. The Last Picture Show, 1971
96. Do The Right Thing, 1989
97. Blade Runner, 1982
98. Yankee Doodle Dandy, 1942
99. Toy Story, 1995
100. Ben-Hur, 1959

Quote from: modage on June 20, 2007, 10:24:26 PM

Quote from: SPARR•O on June 20, 2007, 07:12:10 PM
Oh, my God!  I just realized that Crash is going to be on this fucking list.

thankfully not.

When Do the Right Thing popped up on the list, I panicked, thinking that if that made it in at the bottom, the other one would be sure to follow since, you know... it really opened people's eyes.

As far as lists go, this one is still the least offensive, even less so now than in 1997.  And that's even taking into account that Fantasia, Fargo, and Third Man's omissions are unforgivable.

The top ten is no longer embarrassingly devoid of Hitchcock and Kubrick... just Kubrick.  Raging Bull is a nice addition to the top ten but we all know 2001 should be there instead.

I didn't realize I was happy with Blade Runner until the commercial for the box set got me more excited than any summer blockbuster trailer of the last 2 years.

Titanic in for Dances With Wolves is a slight upgrade.

Sixth Sense in for Close Encounters is a major downgrade.

Casablanca and The Godfather were in the right order the first time around.

And there's too much Tom Hanks on this list.  Private Ryan or Gump, not both.  Toy Story can stay.

Sixth Sense higher than Last Picture Show? Easy Rider higher than Goodfellas? Ridiculous.

The list isn't serious. I'm surprised Raging Bull is as high as it is. I wouldn't put it that high, but it is better than most of the films in the top ten.

I'm not going to make any great case for my every disagreeance. I'd have to to do the impossible by arguing one film is better than another when they have no similarities for comparison. But the evidence this list is stupid is with Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid still being higher than The Wild Bunch. They are closer together this year (Butch Cassidy was #50 and Wild Bunch in the #80's last time) but still.

When both were released, they were compared because of story but Butch Cassidy was considered the Hollywood affair. Many critics felt empowered to give the film negative reviews because they knew The Wild Bunch was better and needing critical support. It didn't help. Butch Cassidy got the Oscars and fame. But this was also the case for Raging Bull and other films. Critical acclaim was suppose to recognize their superiority years later. The case of The Wild Bunch is just an elder and forgotten one. Little care or interest is out to recognize the obvious superiority of one over the other. 

This is an OUTRAGE!!!

Why are they using numbers again?  They should be using letters and when they get to the end of the alphabet, they can double them up... after the second time around... THEN it's okay to add numbers.

AFI's '100 Years' to focus on genres
Film org to have top 10 list for each category
Source: Variety

Genres will be the focus of this year's "AFI's 100 Years" series, announced Thursday.

Film org will count down the top 10 films in 10 selected categories; "AFI's 10 Top 10" will tally up the institute's top picks in animation, fantasy, science fiction, gangster, Western, sports, romantic comedy, courtroom drama, mystery and epic film genres.

"AFI's 10 Top 10" will be revealed in a live CBS telecast in June.

AFI distributed a ballot Thursday with 50 films per genre to a jury of more than 1,500 leaders from the film community, including helmers, thesps, critics and historians.

Only feature-length American films will be eligible for the lists, and AFI has asked jurors to consider critical recognition, awards record, popularity over time, historical significance and cultural impact in their voting.

"We look forward to catalyzing a national conversation. The ultimate goal of this program is to drive audiences to discover and rediscover the classics of American film," said AFI prexy-CEO Bob Gazzale.

Films on the ballot for consideration include "Pinocchio" and "Shrek" for animation; "King Kong" (1933) and "The Lord of the Rings" for fantasy; "The War of the Worlds" (1953) and "The Matrix" for sci-fi; "Scarface" (1932) and "The Departed" for gangster pic; "The Searchers" and "Unforgiven" for Western; "The Pride of the Yankees" and "Seabiscuit" for sports movie; "It Happened One Night" and "My Best Friend's Wedding" for romantic comedy; "Witness for the Prosecution" and "A Few Good Men" for courtroom drama; "Sherlock Holmes" and "The Usual Suspects" for mystery; and "Ben-Hur" (1959) and "Braveheart" for epics.

AFI Crowns Top 10 Films in 10 Classic Genres
Source: ComingSoon

The American Film Institute crowned the top 10 films in 10 classic genres. Do you agree with the honorees? Here's the full press release:

The American Film Institute (AFI) tonight revealed the 10 greatest movies in 10 classic American film genres in AFI's 10 TOP 10, a three-hour special television event on the CBS Television Network. A jury of 1,500 film artists, critics and historians named the following films as the very best in the following genres: 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY (Science Fiction), CITY LIGHTS (Romantic Comedy), THE GODFATHER (Gangster), LAWRENCE OF ARABIA (Epic), RAGING BULL (Sports), THE SEARCHERS (Western), SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS (Animation), TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD (Courtroom Drama), VERTIGO (Mystery) and THE WIZARD OF OZ (Fantasy).

AFI's 10 TOP 10 enlisted hosts for each genre including: Jessica Alba for Romantic Comedy; Sean Astin for Fantasy; Gabriel Byrne for Mystery; Kirk Douglas for Epic; Clint Eastwood for Westerns; Cuba Gooding, Jr. for Sports; Jennifer Love Hewitt for Animation; Quentin Tarantino for Gangster; Sigourney Weaver for Sci-Fi; and James Woods for Courtroom Drama.

"This year's celebration of the art form is ten times the fun for movie lovers," said AFI President and CEO Bob Gazzale. "And another chapter in our mandate to drive audiences to discover and rediscover the classics of American film."

AFI's 10 TOP 10 honorees are:

ANIMATION

1 SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS 1937
2 PINOCCHIO 1940
3 BAMBI 1942
4 THE LION KING 1994
5 FANTASIA 1940
6 TOY STORY 1995
7 BEAUTY AND THE BEAST 1991
8 SHREK 2001
9 CINDERELLA 1950
10 FINDING NEMO 2003

FANTASY

1 THE WIZARD OF OZ 1939
2 THE LORD OF THE RINGS: THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING 2001
3 IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE 1946
4 KING KONG 1933
5 MIRACLE ON 34th STREET 1947
6 FIELD OF DREAMS 1989
7 HARVEY 1950
8 GROUNDHOG DAY 1993
9 THE THIEF OF BAGDAD 1924
10 BIG 1988

GANGSTER

1 THE GODFATHER 1972
2 GOODFELLAS 1990
3 THE GODFATHER PART II 1974
4 WHITE HEAT 1949
5 BONNIE AND CLYDE 1967
6 SCARFACE: THE SHAME OF A NATION 1932
7 PULP FICTION 1994
8 THE PUBLIC ENEMY 1931
9 LITTLE CAESAR 1930
10 SCARFACE 1983

SCIENCE FICTION

1 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY 1968
2 STAR WARS: EPISODE IV - A NEW HOPE 1977
3 E.T. - THE EXTRA TERRESTRIAL 1982
4 A CLOCKWORK ORANGE 1971
5 THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL 1951
6 BLADE RUNNER 1982
7 ALIEN 1979
8 TERMINATOR 2: JUDGMENT DAY 1991
9 INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS 1956
10 BACK TO THE FUTURE 1985

WESTERN

1 THE SEARCHERS 1956
2 HIGH NOON 1952
3 SHANE 1953
4 UNFORGIVEN 1992
5 RED RIVER 1948
6 THE WILD BUNCH 1969
7 BUTCH CASSIDY AND THE SUNDANCE KID 1969
8 McCABE & MRS. MILLER 1971
9 STAGECOACH 1939
10 CAT BALLOU 1965

SPORTS

1 RAGING BULL 1980
2 ROCKY 1976
3 THE PRIDE OF THE YANKEES 1942
4 HOOSIERS 1986
5 BULL DURHAM 1988
6 THE HUSTLER 1961
7 CADDYSHACK 1980
8 BREAKING AWAY 1979
9 NATIONAL VELVET 1944
10 JERRY MAGUIRE 1996

MYSTERY

1 VERTIGO 1958
2 CHINATOWN 1974
3 REAR WINDOW 1954
4 LAURA 1944
5 THE THIRD MAN 1949
6 THE MALTESE FALCON 1941
7 NORTH BY NORTHWEST 1959
8 BLUE VELVET 1986
9 DIAL M FOR MURDER 1954
10 THE USUAL SUSPECTS 1995

ROMANTIC COMEDY

1 CITY LIGHTS 1931
2 ANNIE HALL 1977
3 IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT 1934
4 ROMAN HOLIDAY 1953
5 THE PHILADELPHIA STORY 1940
6 WHEN HARRY MET SALLY ... 1989
7 ADAM'S RIB 1949
8 MOONSTRUCK 1987
9 HAROLD AND MAUDE 1971
10 SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE 1993

COURTROOM DRAMA

1 TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD 1962
2 12 ANGRY MEN 1957
3 KRAMER VS. KRAMER 1979
4 THE VERDICT 1982
5 A FEW GOOD MEN 1992
6 WITNESS FOR THE PROSECUTION 1957
7 ANATOMY OF A MURDER 1959
8 IN COLD BLOOD 1967
9 A CRY IN THE DARK 1988
10 JUDGMENT AT NUREMBERG 1961

EPIC

1 LAWRENCE OF ARABIA 1962
2 BEN-HUR 1959
3 SCHINDLER'S LIST 1993
4 GONE WITH THE WIND 1939
5 SPARTACUS 1960
6 TITANIC 1997
7 ALL QUIET ON THE WESTERN FRONT 1930
8 SAVING PRIVATE RYAN 1998
9 REDS 1981
10 THE TEN COMMANDMENTS 1956

Interesting facts about the list include:

-- The earliest entry on the list is THE THIEF OF BAGDAD (Fantasy) from 1924; with the most recent being FINDING NEMO (Animated) from 2003.

-- Alfred Hitchcock is the most represented director with 4 films; Steven Spielberg and Stanley Kubrick follow with 3 entries each.

-- James Stewart is the most represented actor with 6 entries; Tom Hanks is next with 4; Warren Beatty, Robert De Niro, Gene Hackman, James Earl Jones, Paul Newman, Jack Nicholson, Al Pacino and John Wayne all have 3 films each.

-- Diane Keaton is the most represented actress with 4 films on the list; Grace Kelly and Talia Shire each have 3 entries.

To compile the final list, AFI distributed a ballot with 500 nominated movies (50 per genre) to a jury of over 1,500 leaders from the creative community, including film artists (directors, screenwriters, actors, editors, cinematographers), critics and historians.

AFI asks jurors to consider the following criteria in their selection process:

FEATURE-LENGTH FICTION FILMS
Narrative format, typically over 60 minutes in length.

AMERICAN FILM

English-language film with significant creative and/or production elements from the United States. Additionally, only films released before January 1, 2008 will be considered.

GENRE:

ANIMATED

AFI defines "animated" as a genre in which the film's images are primarily created by computer or hand and the characters are voiced by actors.

FANTASY

AFI defines "fantasy" as a genre where live-action characters inhabit imagined settings and/or experience situations that transcend the rules of the natural world.

GANGSTER

AFI defines the "gangster film" as a genre that centers on organized crime or maverick criminals in a twentieth century setting.

SCIENCE FICTION

AFI defines "science fiction" as a genre that marries a scientific or technological premise with imaginative speculation.

WESTERN

AFI defines "western" as a genre of films set in the American West that embodies the spirit, the struggle and the demise of the new frontier.

SPORTS

AFI defines "sports" as a genre of films with protagonists who play athletics or other games of competition.

MYSTERY

AFI defines "mystery" as a genre that revolves around the solution of a crime.

ROMANTIC COMEDY

AFI defines "romantic comedy" as a genre in which the development of a romance leads to comic situations.

COURTROOM DRAMA

AFI defines "courtroom drama" as a genre of film in which a system of justice plays a critical role in the film's narrative.

EPIC

AFI defines "epic" as a genre of large-scale films set in a cinematic interpretation of the past. Their scope defies and demands-either in the mode in which they are presented or their range across time.

CRITICAL RECOGNITION
Formal commendation in print, television and digital media.

MAJOR AWARD WINNER

Recognition from competitive events including awards from peer groups, critics, guilds and major film festivals.

POPULARITY OVER TIME

Including success at the box office, television and cable airing, and DVD/VHS sales and rentals.

HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE

A film's mark on the history of moving images through visionary narrative devices, technical innovation, or other ground breaking achievements.

CULTURAL IMPACT
A film's mark on American society in matters of style and substance.

AFI allows one write-in vote per genre.

At the conclusion of AFI's 10 TOP 10 special at 11:00 p.m. EDT, AFI will premiere a companion web site at http://www.AFI.com that will feature over 400 video clips about all 100 movies within the 10 genres. The site will also feature movie trailers and interview clips, AFI Catalog entries, movie stills and posters. Users can also download all of AFI's popular movie lists, and can comment about their favorite movies on the site. The site will also feature a new edition of 'AFI's 10 TOP 10 Movie Quiz' that tests players' knowledge of the movies from the 10 genres.

The primetime special was executive produced and directed by Gary Smith; executive produced for AFI by former AFI Board Chair Emeritus Frederick S. Pierce; and produced by Dann Netter. SFM Entertainment LLC is the distributor of the program. Sponsors of the series have included Pepsi, Best Buy, Breyers, ConAgra, Procter & Gamble, Anheuser-Busch, Colgate-Palmolive, Sony and all major motion picture companies.

Empire's 500 Greatest Movies Of All Time:


http://www.empireonline.com/500/

#123 - A Woman Under the Influence - That is not a still from a woman under the influence.

#112 - I am Cuba - Director: Alexander Payne? What? he directed the film when he was 3?

Fuck that list.

Fucking shit.

the blood-soaked diarrhea of shitty movie lists, if you will.

Empires list of 500 proper movies meatheads who fancy themselves intellectuals dig.

I stopped reading that silly list at #460.

We should come up with our own list. What happens when this board ceases to exist? WE NEED SOMETHING TO BE REMEMBERED BY.

We can't even agree on the annual xixax awards... let alone a definitive top 500 of all time.

Another blatant error is Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade as being from 2007.

Quote from: omuy on November 19, 2008, 08:40:30 PM
We can't even agree on the annual xixax awards... let along a definitive top 500 of all time.

Oh, I never participate in those. I usually write in Nader.

I could not have imagined how awful that list would be.  officially the worst list of all time.

Wow, you guys were not kidding.

The American Film Institute commemorates the first century of American films, with this made-for-TV special, highlighting the greatest 100 American movies. In their latest ranking, the critics' darling, Citizen Kane, has been pushed aside in favor of a far more inspired choice...

WARNING: HUMOROUS VIDEO BELOW!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nF_L8iwqBs

Quote from: modage on August 11, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
WARNING: HUMOROUS VIDEO BELOW!

appropriately loud warning for a video that is only humorous if you think yelling is funny.

100 movie icons.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi7.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy251%2Ffbv%2FMovie_Icons_by_JoepGerrits1.jpg&hash=a6825e24c046b03069ce9dd09b1624a733067869)

http://www.thehighdefinite.com/2010/08/100-movie-icons/


there's a few I don't know, in that link they give away all of them.

Quote from: P on August 11, 2010, 07:55:34 PM

Quote from: modage on August 11, 2010, 06:37:05 PM
WARNING: HUMOROUS VIDEO BELOW!

appropriately loud warning for a video that is only humorous if you think yelling is funny.

Wtf is Julia Robers doing in a public library? Did they film her at her actual job or something?

Vertigo > Citizen Kane? Sight & Sound Declares the Greatest Film of All Time
By Movieline

Here comes the cinephile debate of the day: After polling 846 film experts, BFI's Sight & Sound declared Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo to be the #1 greatest film of all time, topping Orson Welles' Citizen Kane, Yasujirō Ozu's Tokyo Story, and classics from Renoir, Murnau, Kubrick, and more of your favorite all-timers. It's a triumph long in coming for the Hitchcock pic, which only first made Sight & Sound's once-a-decade list in 1982 and has been working its way up the ranks of critical opinion since. Does the 2012 poll finally have it right?

Culled from Top Ten lists from 846 critics, academics, writers, and programmers, Sight & Sound's GOAT survey is at its widest to date. The full ten:

The Critics' Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time
1. Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
2. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
3. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
4. La Règle du jeu (Renoir, 1939)
5. Sunrise: a Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
7. The Searchers (Ford, 1956)
8. Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)
10. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

Somewhere out there, Kim Novak is raising her fist in victory while William Friedkin – who told Movieline Citizen Kane set the bar for cinematic greatness so high, trying to match it is what keeps him going – is probably shaking his damn head.

Meanwhile, 358 filmmakers were polled for a separate director's choice, yielding some interesting differences in opinion:

The Directors' Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time
1. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968) and Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941) (tie)
4. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)
5. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)
6. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
7. The Godfather (Coppola, 1972) and Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958) (tie)
9. Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1974)
10. Bicycle Thieves (De Sica, 1948)

It's interesting to note the divide between critics' and filmmakers' ranking of Vertigo, which is a more populist-romantic choice in ways than Citizen Kane; perhaps unsurprisingly, the directors' list is much more auteur-heavy in its leanings. But let's open this up to discussion: Is Vertigo really the best film of all time? (Is it even the best Hitchcock of all time?)

Both of those are great lists and Vertigo is definitely Hitch's greatest achievement.

2 coppolas in the directors top ten? damn, really shows how far the dude has fallen.

Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2012, 06:53:11 PM
Vertigo > Citizen Kane? Sight & Sound Declares the Greatest Film of All Time
By Movieline

Here comes the cinephile debate of the day: After polling 846 film experts, BFI's Sight & Sound declared Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo to be the #1 greatest film of all time, topping Orson Welles' Citizen Kane, Yasujirō Ozu's Tokyo Story, and classics from Renoir, Murnau, Kubrick, and more of your favorite all-timers. It's a triumph long in coming for the Hitchcock pic, which only first made Sight & Sound's once-a-decade list in 1982 and has been working its way up the ranks of critical opinion since. Does the 2012 poll finally have it right?

Culled from Top Ten lists from 846 critics, academics, writers, and programmers, Sight & Sound's GOAT survey is at its widest to date. The full ten:

The Critics' Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time
1. Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
2. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
3. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
4. La Règle du jeu (Renoir, 1939)
5. Sunrise: a Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
7. The Searchers (Ford, 1956)
8. Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)
10. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

Somewhere out there, Kim Novak is raising her fist in victory while William Friedkin – who told Movieline Citizen Kane set the bar for cinematic greatness so high, trying to match it is what keeps him going – is probably shaking his damn head.

Meanwhile, 358 filmmakers were polled for a separate director's choice, yielding some interesting differences in opinion:

The Directors' Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time
1. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968) and Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941) (tie)
4. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)
5. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)
6. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
7. The Godfather (Coppola, 1972) and Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958) (tie)
9. Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1974)
10. Bicycle Thieves (De Sica, 1948)

It's interesting to note the divide between critics' and filmmakers' ranking of Vertigo, which is a more populist-romantic choice in ways than Citizen Kane; perhaps unsurprisingly, the directors' list is much more auteur-heavy in its leanings. But let's open this up to discussion: Is Vertigo really the best film of all time? (Is it even the best Hitchcock of all time?)

No mention of "The Last Airbender"?....  I am disappointed...

For once a list that you really can't argue too hard about.  You can certainly nibble around the edges, but there's nothing fundamentally out of place.  Interesting that Rules of the Game is on the critics' but not the directors' list, and Bicycle Thieves is on the directors' but not the critics'.  Also, Man With a Movie Camera continues to be overrated, while 8 1/2 continues to be underrated.  And of all the films on these lists, The Searchers has aged the least well by far.

Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2012, 06:53:11 PM

5. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)

I was so pissed when Ordinary People took the oscar from it that year..

Quote from: polkablues on August 05, 2012, 02:01:56 PM
And of all the films on these lists, The Searchers has aged the least well by far.

Can you just expand on this for a couple more sentences?

It comes off as fairly hammy and mannered in a very specifically 1950's Hollywood sort of way.  There are moments in it (for example, the girls "brainwashed" by the Indians) that very much feel a product of their time and, to a modern eye, are impossible to take seriously as they were intended.  There's no question that John Ford was at the top of his game visually, and the story was much richer and more thematically complex than your typical Western of the era, but it fails the test of timelessness that a movie like 8 1/2 or even Citizen Kane achieved.

Some other people's lists (http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/read-new-all-time-top-10s-from-martin-scorsese-woody-allen-francis-ford-coppola-quentin-tarantino-more-20120803?page=1#)

Tarantino's is the best

Everyone else is just like " Well, Citizen Kane has to go on there. I mean, it's a list "

The only thing that bothers me about these polls is that people are so afraid to name contemporary movies. Does the test of time really require 40-70 years?

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 06, 2012, 12:28:32 AM
The only thing that bothers me about these polls is that people are so afraid to name contemporary movies. Does the test of time really require 40-70 years?

I think the problem is that these lists, for them to have any credibility, are made by film experts and directors and other kind of professionals. Most of these people would have been active in the industry for more than 30 years. For them to praise a contemporary movie they would have to admit that someone has been doing a better job than them.

In the case of film scholars the same thing applies. Films made before they started talking shit professionally have always been historical artefacts, they had no stake in critically appraising their status. It's easier to pile on the praise received by Citizen Kane than to take the huge risk of being the first to champion the actual greatest movie of all time, Eyes Wide Shut.

No one wants to lead the charge, it would mean admitting they got it wrong the first time.

Quote from: Pubrick on August 06, 2012, 02:04:32 AM

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on August 06, 2012, 12:28:32 AM
The only thing that bothers me about these polls is that people are so afraid to name contemporary movies. Does the test of time really require 40-70 years?

I think the problem is that these lists, for them to have any credibility, are made by film experts and directors and other kind of professionals. Most of these people would have been active in the industry for more than 30 years. For them to praise a contemporary movie they would have to admit that someone has been doing a better job than them.

In the case of film scholars the same thing applies. Films made before they started talking shit professionally have always been historical artefacts, they had no stake in critically appraising their status. It's easier to pile on the praise received by Citizen Kane than to take the huge risk of being the first to champion the actual greatest movie of all time, Eyes Wide Shut.

No one wants to lead the charge, it would mean admitting they got it wrong the first time.

Well said, pub.

Quote from: Pubrick on August 06, 2012, 02:04:32 AM
It's easier to pile on the praise received by Citizen Kane than to take the huge risk of being the first to champion the actual greatest movie of all time, Eyes Wide Shut.

This especially.


edit: damn you new page!

The thing is, probably movies like Eyes Wide Shut mean the same to us that Citizen Kane meant to a lot of those critics and filmmakers when they were our age (at least I guess most of us are in their 20s/early 30s). And it's possible that when our generation is in the majority among these voters, stuff like Eyes will be closer to number 1, but younger generations will complain about our choices.It's gonna be like "What's this Master movie doing in number one? These guys are old farts!"

QuoteIt's easier to pile on the praise received by Citizen Kane than to take the huge risk of being the first to champion the actual greatest movie of all time, Eyes Wide Shut.

Is your favorite film of all time actually Eyes Wide Shut? Pretty interesting choice.

We should have a new "best/favorite films of all time" poll with a minimum date of 1980 or something like that.

That's a good cut off point because some of my fave movies were made that year:

The Shining
Ordinary People
Friday The 13th
American Gigolo
Dressed to Kill

Oh, and this one

Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2012, 06:53:11 PM
5. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)

my absolute favorite. best film of the 80's. Travis Bickle is the poster-child of that decade

Post 80's makes it kind of hard, but it's an interesting exercise:

Wings of Desire
Taxi Driver
There Will Be Blood
Tree of Life (soon I know, but it is what it is)
Punch-Drunk Love
Being There

No order

Quote from: CloudAuteur on August 07, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Post 80's makes it kind of hard, but it's an interesting exercise:

Quote from: CloudAuteur on August 07, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Taxi Driver

:doh:

Mine:

Paris, Texas
Breaking the Waves
Dancer in the Dark
Antichrist
Idi I Smotri
Pulp Fiction
There will be Blood
Punch-Drunk Love
Eyes wide Shut
The Free Will
Lovers on a Bridge

Quote from: CloudAuteur on August 07, 2012, 02:44:25 AM
Post 80's makes it kind of hard, but it's an interesting exercise:

Being There

'79, bro. Get your dates right. I'm actually more interested in what everybody's fave 80's films are.

Quote from: Reelist on August 07, 2012, 07:07:24 AM
'79, bro. Get your dates right. I'm actually more interested in what everybody's fave 80's films are.

80s hmm? Alphabetical:

Aliens
Castle in the Sky
Fanny & Alexander
Full Metal Jacket
The Goonies
Heaven's Gate
Kagemusha
Labyrinth
The NeverEnding Story
Raging Bull
The Shining

There are lots of others, but these are the ones I watch on a consistent basis today. 

Also, some nitpicking here.  Taxi Driver released in 1976, not 1980.  Also, it's displayed as "80s" not "80's".  Think of it this way: eighties vs. eighty's. 

Quote from: Pwaybloe on August 07, 2012, 07:35:19 AM
Taxi Driver released in 1976, not 1980.

don't believe you. My favorite 80s movies:

Straw Dogs
A Clockwork Orange
Chinatown
Deliverance
The Exorcist
the Texas chainsaw massacre

Oh Reelist... you're such a riot.

He's making fun of you because your nitpicking was unnecessary. He was well aware that taxi driver is not 1980, it was the idiots at sight and sound who listed it so on their directors list. What's not clear is that cloud auteur realises the mistake or legitimately believes taxi driver is one of his favourite post 80s films. It seems he was tricked by reelist's initial trolling.

On the subject of this new GOAT (post 1980) list, I think that's a great cut off as almost everyone who posts here was born after that date. Maybe a better list would be best film made since you were born.. but then we couldn't really tally the results fairly.

I'm 1983, but my post 80 gut list would be:

EWS
FMJ
THE SHIN

Fargo
The matrix

Magnolia
PDL
CMBB
Boogie

Breaking the waves
Up
The thin red line

The thin blue line
Capturing the Friedmans

L'argent
Fanny and Alexander
Pulp fic-- this is too hard. Let's just all say taxi driver and leave it at that.

Quote
don't believe you. My favorite 80s movies:

Straw Dogs
A Clockwork Orange
Chinatown
Deliverance
The Exorcist
the Texas chainsaw massacre

I really dig your list Reelist...you bastard  :bravo:

Quote from: Pubrick on August 07, 2012, 10:13:49 AM

On the subject of this new GOAT (post 1980) list, I think that's a great cut off as almost everyone who posts here was born after that date. Maybe a better list would be best film made since you were born.. but then we couldn't really tally the results fairly.

I'm 1983

We're gonna have to really narrow down the criteria to go anywhere with this, so how about just pick ONE fav. movie from the year you ( or anyone else ) was born. That way we don't have to get all 'list crazy' and can get to know eachother a lil better in the process.

1988

Child's Play

P's birthyear, '83

Body Double

The Top 10's are hard to argue with but I think the Critics full Top 50 is kind of a joke the further you get towards the bottom.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-greatest-films-all-time/

Something like 15 total American films out of 50?

And I have a hard time believing (no matter how good it is) that a Godard-directed documentary (http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8b29dbb3) about film history is one of the 50 Greatest Films Ever Made.

As Pubrick said, since 1990 we've got 4 films? (Close-Up, Sátántangó, Mulholland Dr., In the Mood for Love) The last 22 years summed up that easily?

With 50 slots I'll bet we could come up with an overall stronger list even without reusing anything on here. So THERE, S&S critics.

Quote from: modage on August 07, 2012, 03:02:31 PM
The Top 10's are hard to argue with but I think the Critics full Top 50 is kind of a joke the further you get towards the bottom.

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-greatest-films-all-time/

Something like 15 total American films out of 50?

And I have a hard time believing (no matter how good it is) that a Godard-directed documentary (http://explore.bfi.org.uk/4ce2b8b29dbb3) about film history is one of the 50 Greatest Films Ever Made.

As Pubrick said, since 1990 we've got 4 films? (Close-Up, Sátántangó, Mulholland Dr., In the Mood for Love) The last 22 years summed up that easily?

With 50 slots I'll bet we could come up with an overall stronger list even without reusing anything on here. So THERE, S&S critics.

That "Documentary" Godard did, is called "Histoire(s) du Cinema". I've seen it and I'm surprised someone actually likes that piece of shit. I wouldn't recommend anyone watching it, unless you're in the verge of suicide and need one last push. Seriously, I think Godard does it on purpose. He wants his audience to feel miserable. He pushes the "Anti-Cinema" thing WAY TOO FAR.


Anyways... My Top 50 (No chronological order):

City of God
The Godfather
Taxi Driver
Badlands
Raging Bull
Magnolia
Fight Club
The Big lebowski
Vertigo
Andrei Rublev
Phantom of the Paradise (Probably the most underrated de palma movie ever... It's fucking Hilarious and Dark)
Casino
The virgin suicides
Old Boy
Blood Simple
Pulp Fiction
Trainspotting
Requiem for a dream
Wild at Heart
American Psycho
The assassination of Jesse James..
"2001"
Midnight cowboy
The conformist
Slacker
Night of the Hunter
8 1/2
Being there
Persona
A woman is a woman (I know I talk shit about Godard but the movies he made in the 60's are all classics. This one is probably his best and one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.. "I got to go, BREATHLESS is on TV tonight"  :bravo: )
Le samurai
Clerks
The killing of a chinese bookie
Something Wild
The double life of veronique
Heat
Lola Montes
The passenger
The graduate
Rebel without a cause
Performance
Network
Chinatown
American Beauty
Do the right thing
Barry lyndon
Audition
Brazil
Tokyo Story
Battle royale

Quote from: Reelist on August 07, 2012, 02:40:26 PM
We're gonna have to really narrow down the criteria to go anywhere with this, so how about just pick ONE fav. movie from the year you ( or anyone else ) was born. That way we don't have to get all 'list crazy' and can get to know eachother a lil better in the process.

1988

Child's Play

Oh Reelist... since I obviously didn't see your brilliant post about Taxi Driver, I'll oblige.

1977:
"That Obscure Object of Desire"
(Buñuel's last and best movie)

Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 07, 2012, 06:57:48 PM
Phantom of the Paradise (Probably the most underrated de palma movie ever... It's fucking Hilarious and Dark)

Cool. I like your list, man.

Quote from: Pwaybloe on August 07, 2012, 08:13:42 PM
1977

Close Encounters of The Third Kind

Quote from: modage on August 07, 2012, 03:02:31 PM

Something like 15 total American films out of 50?

see, your problem with the list was actually the reverse of my problem with most lists. most lists (I'm talking about film threat and shit) have an overwhelming number of American films, and I just can't believe that somehow three quarters of the greatest lists all somehow come from the same country.

That's weird I thought modage was making the same point as you.

15 out of 50 seems like a lot for one country.

Godard can go to hell tho.. even if the list was top 1000 that guy's non breathless work shouldn't be making an appearance.

Quote from: Pubrick on August 08, 2012, 03:21:34 AM
That's weird I thought modage was making the same point as you.

15 out of 50 seems like a lot for one country.

Godard can go to hell tho.. even if the list was top 1000 that guy's non breathless work shouldn't be making an appearance.

Ahem... you remember the 2004 Xixax DEKAPENTICON right?

7.  my life to live

Quote from: Pubrick on January 07, 2004, 07:30:10 AM
PDL is the only one that shouldn't be there. the rest of the list is much much better than i expected. 3 kubricks, that says it all really.

good work, ppl who voted.

Eight years ago! I was barely 20.. we're all a bit embarrassing at that age, just look at the current noobs.

But in my feeble defence, I think I was right to discredit PDL from the list as it had only just been released (and I had only seen a screener copy). It was supposed to be the best movies of all time, not of the last year.

And I must've just fallen into a brief coma when I came to My Life To Live, such is the shittyness of Godard.

Haha! I saw the opportunity to remember an obscure old thread and leaped on it. I do still like that movie though, but Godard isn't for everyone.

Quote from: Pubrick on August 08, 2012, 03:31:47 PM
Eight years ago! I was barely 20.. we're all a bit embarrassing at that age, just look at the current noobs.

But in my feeble defence, I think I was right to discredit PDL from the list as it had only just been released (and I had only seen a screener copy). It was supposed to be the best movies of all time, not of the last year.

And I must've just fallen into a brief coma when I came to My Life To Live, such is the shittyness of Godard.

In my opinion, Vivre sa Vie ("My life to live") is GOOD GODARD! Godard turned to shit when he made "weekend" (1967). Everything he made after that was just plain awful.  "King Lear"? "Film socialisme"? "Germany year 90 nine zero"? WORST FUCKING MOVIES I'VE EVER SAT THROUGH.

Quote from: Pubrick on August 08, 2012, 03:31:47 PM
Eight years ago! I was barely 20.. we're all a bit embarrassing at that age, just look at the current noobs.

Well, we have to learn by our mistakes right? Hell, i'm even ashamed by the (back then awesome) Facebook updated I wrote 10 minutes ago and think these feelings are quite important for the personal development.

Quote from: KarlJan on August 08, 2012, 06:39:59 PM

Quote from: Pubrick on August 08, 2012, 03:31:47 PM
Eight years ago! I was barely 20.. we're all a bit embarrassing at that age, just look at the current noobs.

Well, we have to learn by our mistakes right? Hell, i'm even ashamed by the (back then awesome) Facebook updated I wrote 10 minutes ago and think these feelings are quite important for the personal development.

Facebook? YUCK.... Use twitter like a normal human being!

I dig your list Tyler. Just wondering why only Magnolia. No love for TWBB or PDL?

Quote from: CloudAuteur on August 08, 2012, 08:36:12 PM
I dig your list Tyler. Just wondering why only Magnolia. No love for TWBB or PDL?

Magnolia is the first PTA movie I ever saw, so that one holds a special place in my heart. Obviously I LOVE all his movies, but I was trying to keep it 1 film per Director (Scorsese and the Coens are an exception).

On another note, I just watched "The intouchables" and I think I need to add it to my list. One of the funniest, most beautiful movies I've seen in a loooong while. I'm surprised there's no thread about it.

Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 08, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
"The intouchables"

Is that the one where Eliot Ness takes down Al Capone by spreading rumors about him in a gossip magazine?

Quote from: polkablues on August 08, 2012, 09:06:42 PM

Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 08, 2012, 08:55:29 PM
"The intouchables"

Is that the one where Eliot Ness takes down Al Capone by spreading rumors about him in a gossip magazine?

You're thinking of:




I'm talking 'bout:

Thanks for clearing that up. Polka's kinda film illiterate. Gotta straighten him out sometimes...

QuoteOn another note, I just watched "The intouchables" and I think I need to add it to my list. One of the funniest, most beautiful movies I've seen in a loooong while. I'm surprised there's no thread about it.

I definitely enjoyed Intouchables as well.

I'm '83 as well, so:

1983: Videodrome

1988: Dead Ringers (man, 80s Cronenberg...)

1977: Suspiria (amazing year for movies)

Also, I prefer Vivre Sa Vie to À Bout de Souffle (which I also like very much).

Quote from: ElPandaRoyal on August 09, 2012, 10:23:39 AM
I'm '83 as well, so:

1983: Videodrome

1988: Dead Ringers (man, 80s Cronenberg...)

1983: Risky Business

1988: Dangerous Liaisons

These were tough.  Surprisingly, both of these years had some decent releases. 

Quote from: Pwaybloe on August 09, 2012, 12:59:44 PM
1983: Risky Business

I finally saw this for the first time the other day.  I had always assumed it was the early '80s equivalent of Superbad or American Pie or something, but damned if Paul Brickman didn't come at it with some ambition.  There were parts of it that reminded me of Carnal Knowledge era Mike Nichols.


Anyway, born in 82 (be jealous, Magnolia fans), not a banner year for films, but I'll declare it a tie between Lumet's The Verdict and Costa-Gavras' Missing.

82:

Poltergeist

and I really like Amityville II :The Possession


I guess honorable mentions are cool.

Wait, so are we categorizing movies by year?

'Cuz 1999 is the best year for movies, EVER. Seriously.

That's basically an unassailable fact at this point.

Quote from: polkablues on August 09, 2012, 09:54:10 PM
That's basically an unassailable fact at this point.

Yeah dude, it's like totally unassailable... *Nods head in cool hipster way*

Feel free to assail it if that floats your boat.

Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 09, 2012, 09:50:34 PM
Wait, so are we categorizing movies by year?

we're doing favorite movies by birthyear.So yours, 1995:

Candyman

I really come off as a douchey horror guy here, don't I? Can't help it. It's my thing.

I was just about to back you up, but then I realized that Candyman is from 1992.  1995 was Candyman 2: Farewell to the Flesh.   :yabbse-undecided:

Quote from: Reelist on August 09, 2012, 10:09:36 PM

Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 09, 2012, 09:50:34 PM
Wait, so are we categorizing movies by year?

we're doing favorite movies by birthyear.So yours, 1995:

Candyman

I really come off as a douchey horror guy here, don't I? Can't help it. It's my thing.

I was born in '92, dude...  So, I guess:

Unforgiven
Reservoir dogs
The player
Malcolm x
Man bites dog
the crying game
glengarry glen ross
Aladdin
Hard boiled
El mariachi
A few good men


Shit, I had a hell of a year... 


Oh and "Candyman"? What about HEAT!? CASINO!? THE USUAL SUSPECTS!? BRAVEHEART!? LA HAINE!? POCA-FUCKING-HONTAS!?

Quote from: InTylerWeTrust on August 09, 2012, 09:50:34 PM
Wait, so are we categorizing movies by year?

'Cuz 1999 is the best year for movies, EVER. Seriously.

As reelist pointed out, the last couple of pages, while you have apparently only been reading your own posts, the rest of us have been picking the best movie from our birth year.

So yeah, if you're from1999 (starting to seem likely considering how hyperactive and erratic you've been lately), feel free to tackle that beast.

I'm beginning to think Pubrick has a crush on me....

Wouldn't surprise me. He expresses affection in mysterious ways.

You know it's store policy for the checkout girls to smile at you, right?  They're not actually hitting on you.

Quote from: polkablues on August 09, 2012, 11:09:48 PM
You know it's store policy for the checkout girls to smile at you, right?  They're not actually hitting on you.

PFFT, Child Please.... THEY ALL WANT ME.

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.memegenerator.es%2Fimagenes%2Fmemes%2F13%2F634253.jpg&hash=f4d86dc8267f35876c5c3c7fe3d672120df5073d)



BTW you just called Pubrick, a: "checkout girl". LOL

Quote from: polkablues on August 09, 2012, 10:13:57 PM
I was just about to back you up, but then I realized that Candyman is from 1992.  1995 was Candyman 2: Farewell to the Flesh.   :yabbse-undecided:

See, I had that coming to me. Trying to play a joke on Tyler like that.

Reservoir dogs for 1992 of course.

and Glengarry Glen Ross

OK, so...

1982: The Thing! (Blade Runner, E.T., Tenebrae)

1992: Husbands & Wives (also Reservoir Dogs, The Player and Batman Returns)

1995: Heat (Casino)

I really only liked two films from the year I was born. Reservoir Dogs and Glengarry Glen Ross.

In alphabetical order...1977:

3 Women
Annie Hall
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Eraserhead
Kentucky Fried Movie
Saturday Night Fever
Smokey and the Bandit
Star Wars
Suspiria

Quote from: KarlJan on August 10, 2012, 06:01:14 AM
I really only liked two films from the year I was born. Reservoir Dogs and Glengarry Glen Ross.

we're so alike

Quote from: MacGuffin on August 03, 2012, 06:53:11 PM
Vertigo > Citizen Kane? Sight & Sound Declares the Greatest Film of All Time
By Movieline

Here comes the cinephile debate of the day: After polling 846 film experts, BFI's Sight & Sound declared Alfred Hitchcock's Vertigo to be the #1 greatest film of all time, topping Orson Welles' Citizen Kane, Yasujirō Ozu's Tokyo Story, and classics from Renoir, Murnau, Kubrick, and more of your favorite all-timers. It's a triumph long in coming for the Hitchcock pic, which only first made Sight & Sound's once-a-decade list in 1982 and has been working its way up the ranks of critical opinion since. Does the 2012 poll finally have it right?

Culled from Top Ten lists from 846 critics, academics, writers, and programmers, Sight & Sound's GOAT survey is at its widest to date. The full ten:

The Critics' Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time
1. Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958)
2. Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941)
3. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
4. La Règle du jeu (Renoir, 1939)
5. Sunrise: a Song for Two Humans (Murnau, 1927)
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968)
7. The Searchers (Ford, 1956)
8. Man with a Movie Camera (Dziga Vertov, 1929)
9. The Passion of Joan of Arc (Dreyer, 1927)
10. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)

Somewhere out there, Kim Novak is raising her fist in victory while William Friedkin – who told Movieline Citizen Kane set the bar for cinematic greatness so high, trying to match it is what keeps him going – is probably shaking his damn head.

Meanwhile, 358 filmmakers were polled for a separate director's choice, yielding some interesting differences in opinion:

The Directors' Top 10 Greatest Films of All Time
1. Tokyo Story (Ozu, 1953)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (Kubrick, 1968) and Citizen Kane (Welles, 1941) (tie)
4. 8 ½ (Fellini, 1963)
5. Taxi Driver (Scorsese, 1980)
6. Apocalypse Now (Coppola, 1979)
7. The Godfather (Coppola, 1972) and Vertigo (Hitchcock, 1958) (tie)
9. Mirror (Tarkovsky, 1974)
10. Bicycle Thieves (De Sica, 1948)

It's interesting to note the divide between critics' and filmmakers' ranking of Vertigo, which is a more populist-romantic choice in ways than Citizen Kane; perhaps unsurprisingly, the directors' list is much more auteur-heavy in its leanings. But let's open this up to discussion: Is Vertigo really the best film of all time? (Is it even the best Hitchcock of all time?)

http://blogs.indiewire.com/peterbogdanovich/the-sight-and-sound-poll

Figured you folks might have an opinion on PD's article.


Personally, I agree and disagree. While he's obviously correct in stating that there are more than 10 fantastic films, I don't believe reducing it down to the 10 "best" (debatable) is a disservice to the art. I too have trouble assembling a top 10, I find my list changing ever so often when reminded of another picture.