The thread where you embarass yourself with movies you've never seen

[Pas]

OH! Cohens haha yeah wow stupid mistake there. I should know that wtf.

As for Boogie Nights, at the risk of humiliating myself furthermore, I understand maybe it's impressive when you know a lot of stuff about film techniques and shit (which I don't) but for the layman (like me) it just looks like some story about a guy doing porn and having a huge dick.

I understand that to many people, and I don't mean that as a jab to them in any way, porn of the 70s and 80s is really really funny because of the hair and stuff. I mean, tons of time I will see people on facebook putting some softcore 80s gay porn pictures on their profile as a joke. Maybe Boogie Nights is a movie for people who really like that? Maybe not, I don't know. I really, realllly love Star 80 though when it comes to 70s-80s porn-related-stories.

PS : I don't think you guys must like Boogie Nights because you think hairy porn dudes are funny. Just some other people. I don't know, I'm rambling.

[Pubrick]

As for Boogie Nights, at the risk of humiliating myself furthermore, I understand maybe it's impressive when you know a lot of stuff about film techniques and shit (which I don't) but for the layman (like me) it just looks like some story about a guy doing porn and having a huge dick.
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PS : I don't think you guys must like Boogie Nights because you think hairy porn dudes are funny.

well i don't think i love the movie cos of some elite bullshit either, in fact i think a lot of the posters here are pretty clueless when it comes to "film techniques and shit", and i include myself in that cos the technicalities of a film is one of the most boring things to talk about.. look at the Quirky Delights In PDL thread to see that ppl like PTA for reasons other than how technically brilliant he is (which is a total copout for film analysis anyway, i can't stress enough how devoid of insight it can be to just list a film's departments and say "lighting was good, set design was good, camera work was good" really what the hell does that even mean). anyway, if the film was being praised just on technical merit we would have to be a pretty boring bunch of deadbeats. which brings me to my second point..

how did you get through my primer for the gradual understanding of PTA? you were one of the first to reply to that thing! actually now i understand why you only commented on the eminem tangent, it must've been the only reference you'd actually heard of.. hahah.

I read in Cahiers du Cinéma last month (oh yeah, I've got all kinds of culture) an interview with the bad guy in Casino Royale, that weird eye guy. He says the Idiots is just a bunch of narcissistic actors doing all kinds of stupid shit and whatever they say really means : "PLEASE LOVE ME LARS, PLEASE FILM ME AND LOVE ME" ... I write it in caps to accentuate the annoyingness of that kind of people.

I don't know if it's true but I guess it is.

that's pretty funny but not really true. the performers in the idiots got to work on the best Dogme film ever and even got to participate in a real orgy (*KarlJan begins to rethink his position on blind-buying it*), so i think it's a rare case that for once in a Von Trier film the actors got real satisfaction from their work and weren't just physically/mentally abused (except karen of course.. spoiler).

[Pas]

how did you get through my primer for the gradual understanding of PTA? you were one of the first to reply to that thing! actually now i understand why you only commented on the eminem tangent, it must've been the only reference you'd actually heard of.. hahah.

Hahaha I don't know if I understoof much/any of it, but it looked like you put a lot of thought into it so I wanted to congratulate you and did a little comment about a thing I understood. Much like your mom would do. Or a girl who wants to impress you and watches some weird ass film you talked about and then doesn't like it for the right reasons and it pisses you off.

[Stefen]

I'm trying to watch all the 'great' films I've never seen and last night I watched Apocalypse Now for the first time. 10/10.

I actually feel kind of lucky that I get to experience all these movies for the first time.

My list goes

Citizen Kane
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Casablanca
The 400 Blows
Chinatown
The Seventh Seal

And then tons and tons more. Gotta do these ones first. Lots of Hitchcock and Woody Allen. There are so many older movies that I haven't seen that I need to start watching. I never saw Apocalypse Now because I felt I had already seen it since I knew everything about it. Glad I finally watched it.

[Pas]

No rush for the Seventh Seal... besides the awesome premise (Death vs Crusader chess match) there is nothing good about this film. there probably is, but I was asleep

[modage]

I almost wished I had saved a major classic or two to watch now (or later).  I shouldn't have caught up and seen EVERYTHING during a 2 year span in the early 00's.

[matt35mm]

I watched a bunch of Akira Kurosawa movies when I was 14 or 15, and I just wasn't able to appreciate them like I can now.  I liked them, but it's not the mindblowing experience it is these days.

That said, just because you saw these movies a long time ago doesn't mean that you can't watch them again and still experience it like new, as long as enough time has passed or if your tastes have developed a lot more.

I think that The Seventh Seal is a great film, but I wouldn't recommend starting with it, as far as Bergman goes.  Bergman is one of my favorite filmmakers, but I kind of feel like his films exist all together and need each other as context, or at least it enriches the experience.  Some of his other films are more immediately accessible, and help you to get a handle on what Bergman is all about.  I recommend Scenes From a Marriage as a starting point, mainly because it's dramatically so engrossing and doesn't really have the struggle with God that a lot of his other films have.  Cries and Whispers will give you an idea of his poetic sensibilities, and it's just such a masterful film.  Then with an idea of the Bergman vibe, you can hit all the religious themed films all at once (The Seventh Seal, Winter Light, Through a Glass Darkly, The Virgin Spring).  That's just what I'd do.

I watched a bunch of Truffaut when I was a teenager and I think it's time to revisit those, along with the Kurosawa stuff.  It's also time that I watch more Godard.  I saw Vivre Sa Vie a couple of weeks ago and adored it.

(Citizen Kane is SO GOOD and so entertaining.  That's one of the classics that I think is so easy to love and enjoy, whereas some can be a chore to sit through.)

[Stefen]

I hate that everything isn't available on Blu-Ray. I want Citizen Kane and Chinatown! 

I think I'm just going to watch Red Desert instead.

[Pas]

I almost wished I had saved a major classic or two to watch now (or later).  I shouldn't have caught up and seen EVERYTHING during a 2 year span in the early 00's.

I don't buy that. I will name 3 Great Classics (not obscure shit at all) and if you've seen them I will believe you:

Shadows of our Forgotten Ancestors
Il Grande Silenzio
and just to make sure I win, I will add the greatest Canadian film ever:
Pour la Suite du Monde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pour_la_suite_du_monde)

the third one can be seen online for free with subtitles on the NFB website. Everyone I showed it to completely adored it, so you can thank me later.

[samsong]

i wouldn't call those major classics.  for starters, sergei parajanov is esoteric in every sense of the word. the other two are completely unknown to me and probably 98% of the board.  also i'm pretty sure mod was referring the american canon (see: afi's top 100) since he doesn't like/can't read subtitles nor accepts sensibilities that are, you know, different. 

there are movies that i haven't seen that i don't give a shit about, like west side story and the sound of music, driving miss daisy.  etc.  ben hur may be slightly more egregious but everything i've been told about it is that it's a bore up until the chariot race.  haven't seen 12 angry men.  haven't seen hard eight. 

not sure i'm embarrassed by what i haven't seen.... i'm sure there's something.

[Pas]

oh I see to me major classics are like the best movies made in a period/place or the best film of a major director. not being an american I am not so concentrated on american things as you guys (i.e.: not having seen Pulp Fiction). if I was not so nice I would even say ''not being an american I don't automatically dismiss anything not-american'' jk  

[Pubrick]

someone made a one minute film about cbrad's life:

[socketlevel]

I almost wished I had saved a major classic or two to watch now (or later).  I shouldn't have caught up and seen EVERYTHING during a 2 year span in the early 00's.

I don't buy that. I will name 3 Great Classics (not obscure shit at all) and if you've seen them I will believe you:

Shadows of our Forgotten Ancestors
Il Grande Silenzio
and just to make sure I win, I will add the greatest Canadian film ever:
Pour la Suite du Monde (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pour_la_suite_du_monde)


the third one can be seen online for free with subtitles on the NFB website. Everyone I showed it to completely adored it, so you can thank me later.

Don't forget Hardcore logo; jesus of montreal; Les ordres; Curtis' Charm and Mon oncle Antoine. All of those are better than Pour la Suite Du Monde.

[Pas]

I just ordered Les Ordres after having heard so muh about it.

Pierre Perreault is hard to beat for my taste though.

[socketlevel]

fair enough, I think we can both agree Quebec is where cinema lives in Canada. Maybe it's the language barrier and thus the formation of a Star system (francophones can't leave us to go south) that makes for a nurturing atmosphere of rich narratives.

word round the campfire is Les Ordres was up for Palm de'Or but Trudeau had a hand in making that not happen, due to the sensitivity and criticism of Marshall Law hastily enforced because of the FLQ. who knows how true it is, but it's an interesting trivia bit none-the-less.

The movie is really great, even though it does suffer from the typical mid 70s low budget Canadian aesthetic and editing in moments. If you're from Canada, grew up in the 80s, you'll know what i mean... three words: peanut butter solution.

there were some great films coming out of Quebec though. "the dog who stopped the war" ("La guerre des tuques") always had a warm place in my heart. a great movie for kids, with a simple yet powerful message.