TRAINING DAY

cowboykurtis · May 12, 2003, 12:29:54 PM

any one else like this film? i thought it was great -- especially first 2 acts -- the 3rd act kind of fell into a humdrum action film -- however it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre". i just love the early scenes with denzel and ethan driving around and talking...wonderful...havent seen any of fuqua's other films -- tears of the sun looked awful... anyway i think hes a really good director with the right material....

AlguienEstolamiPantalones · May 12, 2003, 12:33:00 PM

one of the best movies i have seen in the past few years, and top notch acting all around

And i hate ethan hawke but he was great in the movie, a good mix all around, and i know it was helped by that fact that the directer knows this world in and out and he brought to the film honesty .

MacGuffin · May 12, 2003, 01:00:39 PM

Quote from: cowboykurtisany one else like this film? i thought it was great -- especially first 2 acts -- the 3rd act kind of fell into a humdrum action film -- however it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre". i just love the early scenes with denzel and ethan driving around and talking...wonderful...havent seen any of fuqua's other films -- tears of the sun looked awful... anyway i think hes a really good director with the right material....

Yeah, the third act was way too farfetched. What a coincidence of all the gang members, it had to be uncle to the girl that Ethan's char. rescued. And Ethan's char. would've smarter to just hand over his gun. But like you said, the first two acts are great. Was so happy Ethan received an Oscar nomination cause I thought he was perfect.

Quote from: cowboykurtishavent seen any of fuqua's other films -- tears of the sun looked awful... anyway i think hes a really good director with the right material....

I was surprised how much I enjoyed Tears Of The Sun, it was marketed as another Black Hawk Down, but it didn't look that good from the trailer. But I found myself engaged in the story and cried at the end. Replacement Killers, however, is a very poor John Woo wannabe rip-off. I'll say he's getting better with each film.

xerxes · May 12, 2003, 01:04:58 PM

like many others, i had some problems with the 3rd act... but mr. washington's performance is one of the best i have seen

ever!

dufresne · May 12, 2003, 01:27:42 PM

Quote from: cowboykurtishowever it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre".

...but they weren't buddies.

cowboykurtis · May 12, 2003, 01:31:29 PM

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Quote from: cowboykurtishowever it was an intersing turn in the "buddy cop genre".

...but they weren't buddies.

exactly -- hence the "interesting turn" in the genre...

Ghostboy · May 12, 2003, 02:04:04 PM

I thought the ending was so bad that it has negatively affected my opinion of the entire film. But now that I think about it...it's got a lot of good stuff in it.

Tears Of The Sun wasn't that bad at all. Nor was it anything really special. What I'm really interested in is King Arthur...

Victor · May 12, 2003, 02:19:32 PM

in every review i read, it always noted how great denzel was in the 'bad guy' role. so right then you knew he was the bad guy, instead of finding out gradually through watching, like you were supposed to. but the thing is, denzel is so damn good, you truly forget that he's the classic 'bad guy', and just think, well, he's got his reasons. youre very much like ehtan's character, always one step behind, ready to leave, but then denzel gets you right back.

and the third act, while definitely having its problems, most notably ethan jumping from the roof onto the hood of denzels car and then denzel being the one who gets hurt, still. Cliff Curtis is the man, without question. Put him in the Macy Gray role and he'd STILL be awesome. And Denzel and Ethans final dialouge scene in front of everyone is absolutely fantastic. I could certainly do without all the action but its worth sitting thorugh just to see that.

What's with all the Ethan bashing? A lot of people just dont like this guy, for some reason. Ive liked him in a lot of roles. Could someone explain this phenomenon to me?

phil marlowe · May 12, 2003, 02:25:40 PM

i dont know why, and its actually rather sad, but denzel washington annoys the hell outta me. its not like he tends to be over the top or anything, he just gets me. he gets me in the worst way, and it ruins every cinematic experience for me.

AlguienEstolamiPantalones · May 12, 2003, 02:31:33 PM

Quote from: Lester

What's with all the Ethan bashing? A lot of people just dont like this guy, for some reason. Ive liked him in a lot of roles. Could someone explain this phenomenon to me?

to answer your question, and well to put your Existence in some perspective.

it's simple really , its because your a pretenious twit .

Sleuth · May 12, 2003, 02:44:11 PM

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Quote from: Lester
it's simple really , its because your a pretenious twit .

You're

Anyway, this movie was surprisingly good despite everything that was mentioned about the last act

Victor · May 12, 2003, 03:59:13 PM

Quote from: some prick
Quote from: Lester

What's with all the Ethan bashing? A lot of people just dont like this guy, for some reason. Ive liked him in a lot of roles. Could someone explain this phenomenon to me?

to answer your question, and well to put your Existence in some perspective.

it's simple really , its because your a pretenious twit .

got a problem, bitterscotch? take it to pm, quit spreading your bile.

Alethia · May 12, 2003, 04:07:30 PM

didn't like the third act, loved the rest, despise ethan hawke becuz he has uma thurman. love her.......

Pedro · May 12, 2003, 04:21:38 PM

Absolutely love Training Day. Saw it when it came out and I now own it. One of my top films for 2001. I've still yet to find the major problems with the 3rd act, but that's all right.

chainsmoking insomniac · May 13, 2003, 08:57:51 AM

Quote from: Pedro the WombatAbsolutely love Training Day. Saw it when it came out and I now own it. One of my top films for 2001. I've still yet to find the major problems with the 3rd act, but that's all right.

Pedro, you the MAN! This film is nearly flawless. I saw nothing wrong with the 3rd act....and the car dialogue is fucking GREAT!