J.D Salinger and P.T

Started by children with angels, March 05, 2003, 10:38:59 AM

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Quote from: neatahwantaUg, I hated Catcher in the Rye....what a bunch of whiny crap.

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the first time i read catcher in the rye i was ten and didnt really understand it all, but i lovd it even then. the wes anderson corhilation to salinger is mor evident, true, but all of wes' films are pretty much branded as comedies, where most of the scenes and character flaws re played for laughs-i love all of his films, but thats how i see them, and thats nothing atall like salinger, even though things come offfuny in his stories theyre not at all jut trying to make u laugh, theyre almost all about a spiritual journey and trying to come to grip with how crappy life can be somtime, and in the end how u have to lern to put up with what bothers u cause thats life, and deepdon lifes a beautiful thing. and that whoe idea, that deeper idea, is definety at the core of alllll of PTA's films, and thats why i think theres such a strong similarity....and they both just rule!
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Quote from: punchdrunk23PTA definitely spins a darker, more passionate tale about essentially the same 'brand' of people, if you'll pardon grouping. :wink:

Well......

Characters from Magnolia who wouldn't be caught dead in Salinger's fiction:

- Jimmy Gator
- Frank T.J. Mackie
- Linda Partridge
- The woman who interviews Frank
- Rick Spector (Stanley's Dad)

Neurotic, selfish people aren't Salinger's common stock.  Neither are media types.  His character's are quirky intellectuals, by and large, interrupted by sensitive savants (like Holden).

I guess I can see some Salinger qualities in some of Magnolia's themes...too much of a disconnected/connected ensemble, though, to be really close to the Salinger ethos.

Well......

I guess I should have explained myself a little more.  What the two casts of characters have in common are a great inner pain, especially Holden.  
And I wasn't comparing Salinger's other characters to Anderson's...Holden, man, Holden...... :roll:
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salinger is also my favorite author. we all have too much in common. three goes being unique. did anyoen notice a character in NINE STORIES named Tenenbaum? we claims to know an actual tenenbaum though.
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Sorry to revive an age-old thread, but I could do with some help if people are willing.

I'm working on an article in which, as an aside, I'm referring to the relationship between PTA and J D Salinger. In this thread people thought that PTA had mentioned Salinger in an interview or two - in particular Godardian thought it came up in the Magnolia screenplay intro. If anyone was able to give me any actual quotes to this effect, I would be seriously grateful. Thanks!
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PTA said something along the lines of "Who isn't influenced by JD Salinger now a days".  They were talking about Wes Anderson's film's and the interviewer flipped it on him.
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Magnolia

Director Paul Thomas Anderson has talked about his inspiration for the children's game show as coming from his own work as a P.A. on such a show and his knowledge of the Glass family. "Doing that [show] really linked up with the J.D. Salinger short stories, with the Glass Family, and their involvement with a show like Quiz Kids."

from: http://community.klipsch.com/blogs/moviesandtv/archive/2010/01/29/r-i-p-jerome-david-salinger-1919-2010.aspx





children with angels

Thanks for the responses guys.

Quote from: md on March 03, 2010, 02:13:50 PM
PTA said something along the lines of "Who isn't influenced by JD Salinger now a days".  They were talking about Wes Anderson's film's and the interviewer flipped it on him.

Any idea what interview this was?

Quote from: classical gas on March 03, 2010, 02:53:14 PM
Director Paul Thomas Anderson has talked about his inspiration for the children's game show as coming from his own work as a P.A. on such a show and his knowledge of the Glass family. "Doing that [show] really linked up with the J.D. Salinger short stories, with the Glass Family, and their involvement with a show like Quiz Kids."

from: http://community.klipsch.com/blogs/moviesandtv/archive/2010/01/29/r-i-p-jerome-david-salinger-1919-2010.aspx

I'd come across this from my Googling - I tried to find the source of their quote but came up with nothing. Does anyone recognise where this might have come from? Anyone who owns the Magnolia screenplay maybe know if it's from the interview in that?
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Quote from: children with angels on March 03, 2010, 05:14:09 PMAnyone who owns the Magnolia screenplay maybe know if it's from the interview in that?

Yes.

Q:What was it that attracted you to the world of games shows?
I'd worked once as a P.A. on a game show called Quiz Kids Challenge, an update of an old radio show. Part of my job was to go through and edit together videotape of all the kids they'd interviewed across the country as potential contestants. Doing that really linked up with the J.D. Salinger short stories, with the Glass family, and their involvement with a show like Quiz Kids. This idea of, hey, let us go through you and pick your brain and use it for entertainment. All that coupled with wanting to see Philip Baker Hall do a new kind of role, and especially to see him do something like a game-show host.
But it also all touches on the idea of what it means to grow up in L.A., but not be a part of the industry -- or to only hold the most marginal relationship to it.
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Bingo! Thanks so much MacGuffin - as always, you are our fact-checkin cuz.
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This is something small someone showed me a while ago but still:

Mr. Anderson (above) said that Mr. Cruise had called him after seeing ''Boogie Nights'' in London, while making Stanley Kubrick's ''Eyes Wide Shut.'' Coincidentally Mr. Anderson was in London, and Mr. Cruise invited him to the movie set to meet Kubrick. (''It was like meeting J. D. Salinger,'' Mr. Anderson said. ''I was thrilled.'')

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/08/movies/at-the-movies-boogie-writer-back-in-valley.html

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"Should I bring my own chains?"
"We always do..."

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http://thelesserfeat.blogspot.com/

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under the paving stones.