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Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: DigitalFriend on July 08, 2003, 09:01:42 AM
I checked on ebay and there are some really cheap players like $50-$75. (daewoo i think was one and "digix" or something)  Was wondering if anyone had experience with the cheap ones and also: which movies are out that aren't in region 1 that would make another DVD player purchase warrented?  I know 28 days later is already out in region 2...but what releases are there besides new ones that would benefit from this?

Thanks!
Title: DVD
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 03, 2004, 09:40:09 PM
I just Bought Short Cuts Recently and it is Region 2
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: bonanzataz on March 03, 2004, 10:42:05 PM
and i've redirected TWICE to this thread today!

http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=3346

if you're gonna get a region free, make sure it will convert pal to ntsc automatically. otherwise you'd have to get a converter and that could cost you some.
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: jasper_window on March 04, 2004, 04:23:57 PM
Quote from: taz.

if you're gonna get a region free, make sure it will convert pal to ntsc automatically. otherwise you'd have to get a converter and that could cost you some.

I'm assuming you have a region free player which does this.  If so, how is the conversion?  Does it effect the colors, etc...?
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: bonanzataz on March 04, 2004, 05:46:36 PM
not really. it shakes a little, but it's watchable. hardly noticable. and i get obsessive about perfect picture.
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: jasper_window on March 05, 2004, 08:05:12 AM
Quote from: taz.not really. it shakes a little, but it's watchable. hardly noticable. and i get obsessive about perfect picture.

Me too.  Thanks for the info.
Title: Re: DVD
Post by: You Never Got Me Down Ray on March 06, 2004, 09:20:44 PM
Quote from: SiliasRubyI just Bought Short Cuts Recently and it is Region 2

Where?
Title: Re: DVD
Post by: Just Withnail on March 07, 2004, 06:34:31 AM
Quote from: You Never Got Me Down Ray
Quote from: SiliasRubyI just Bought Short Cuts Recently and it is Region 2

Where?

Is the spanish one?
Title: DVD
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 08, 2004, 02:39:48 PM
Yes it is the Spanish one and I got it off of ebay
Title: yeah...
Post by: supremelegend on March 15, 2004, 12:35:02 PM
i bought mine and i love it...one of the best things i've ever bought.
Title: Re: yeah...
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 16, 2004, 11:36:49 AM
Quote from: supremelegendi bought mine and i love it...one of the best things i've ever bought.

Good For You
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: GoneSavage on January 23, 2005, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: bonanzataznot really. it shakes a little, but it's watchable. hardly noticable. and i get obsessive about perfect picture.
Hi there.  Which model did you buy?  I will soon need a machine that will be able to convert PAL DVDs to NTSC but also take all regions.  Your help, or anyone else's help, is appreciated.
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: lamas on January 24, 2005, 12:32:08 PM
how about that shit?  i was just checking out new DVD players this morning.  i really wanna see Le Samourai and can only find Region 0 PAL DVDs.  check out http://www.220-electronics.com/  seems like a good site.  amazon carries the philips model on that site and it seems to have gotten some good customer reviews.  personally, i don't trust those super-foreign companies like Daewoo or Akai.  i'm a Philips, Sony, Zenith, Pioneer man myself.

what other-region DVDs are you looking for?
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: pete on January 24, 2005, 02:01:35 PM
yeah I fucking hate those super-foreigners.  I like ordinary foreigners who serve me burgers at footlockers.
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: Two Lane Blacktop on January 24, 2005, 05:15:57 PM
I bought a cheapie Apex DVD player (the 1500 I think...  I can go look if anyone really wants to know) and was able to mod it with a file I found on Usenet.  It cost about $60 and includes great PAL-to-NTSC conversion.

I bought it mainly for Peter Greenaway movies that aren't available in the US, but have also gotten a few cool things like Andy Warhol's Chelsea Girls, Lars von Trier's The Kingdom, and the two-season version of Twin Peaks.  

2LB
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: lamas on January 24, 2005, 11:59:13 PM
Quote from: peteyeah I fucking hate those super-foreigners.  I like ordinary foreigners who serve me burgers at footlockers.

must be a gay thing
Title: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: GoneSavage on January 25, 2005, 05:23:29 PM
Thanks for the ideas, gentlemen.
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: ono on May 13, 2011, 05:57:44 PM
Thinking about getting a Region-Free Blu-Ray player that does the same for DVDs, as I never did buy one for all of the two non-Region One DVDs I have.  First, is it worth it?  Any good Blu-Rays exclusive to other regions?  Second, anyone know of any good deals?  Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: Sleepless on May 13, 2011, 10:06:01 PM
It depends on what your buying habits are like. If you're planning on making lots of purchases fairly regularly, and you know you're going to want lots of hard to get stuff then absolutely go for it. My buying had curbed drastically the past few years, but I bought my first region free back when I was living in the UK. Mainly it was so I could get lots of US and Canadian disks which either weren't available in the UK at all or just had a much better release date. Of course if also allowed me to pick up some cheap ebay disks over the years too. And there were a number of occasions where I'd see a film in the cinema, get blow away by it, and be able to buy the DVD from a foreign territory instantly when I got home. Now that I'm living in the US, of course, being multi-region is a must because of the hundreds of UK disks I brought over with me. Plus I have the flexibility for when Godard's King Lear must surely get it's limited DVD release in France. If you're thinking about getting it mainly for price and saving by buying non-US disks, I don't know if you'd really save that much. Depends how much you want to shop around. Alternatively, torrent.
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: WorldForgot on February 06, 2021, 10:36:39 AM
Can anybody recommend a region-free blu ray player? I've got a handful of Region B discs, and am wondering which models y'all use.
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: Reel on February 06, 2021, 01:20:40 PM
I'm looking for one too! I finally bought the Japanese Director's cut of Kill Bill Vol. 1 ( with the Crazy 88 sequence in color )

It appears this one is the best deal on Amazon, but I'd like some advice too.

https://www.amazon.com/BDP-S1700-Blu-ray-110-240-Dynastar-Adapter/dp/B01E4NDR8U/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=region+free+blu+ray&qid=1612638900&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=ALEWIQ2F9CQDR&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzN0o5SzZERVVVMzJDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzc1NjQwMjlCUTBITUVDRzhKJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MjQ5MDI3QzkxNUZNNDg4Vjcmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ== (https://www.amazon.com/BDP-S1700-Blu-ray-110-240-Dynastar-Adapter/dp/B01E4NDR8U/ref=mp_s_a_1_1_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=region+free+blu+ray&qid=1612638900&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&smid=ALEWIQ2F9CQDR&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEzN0o5SzZERVVVMzJDJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwMzc1NjQwMjlCUTBITUVDRzhKJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA3MjQ5MDI3QzkxNUZNNDg4Vjcmd2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==)
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: Ravi on February 06, 2021, 03:59:29 PM
I have the Sony BDP-S6500. Works pretty well for me. I would have gotten an Oppo, since they have better upscaling, but they're expensive, and they recently stopped making disc players.

https://www.220-electronics.com/region-free-sony-bdp-s6500-blu-ray-player.html
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: wilder on February 06, 2021, 09:07:59 PM
I have a self-modified Oppo BDP-80, one of their early and less expensive models, which I've used for 11 years and has yet to fail. If I were I to buy another player that weren't an Oppo, I'd just as likely go with the one Ravi suggested.

Something to note about Oppo is that direct from the manufacturer their players didn't come region free. I believe they were prohibited from selling with that capability already activated, but the players were designed to be easily self-modified with a kit, or bought after-market and modified by a third party for a premium.

By far the cheapest route was to buy an unmodified player directly from Oppo and then acquire a modification kit that could be installed yourself for something like $50-100, depending on the model. Already-modified players would be opportunistically sold at sometimes double the price, so now with their scarce availability they sometimes go for triple that. The kits, if they're still around, can be found by googling a specific player's model + "modification kit".

My player is very old, if you wanted to acquire an Oppo now your best bet would probably be to go for a BDP-93 or BDP-103. There are actually a few used models on eBay right now (https://www.ebay.com/b/OPPO-Region-Free-Blu-ray-Players/175711/bn_2823950?rt=nc&_sop=15) for between $200-300, which is very fair. I don't know if the ones listed come modified or not.




Criterion Forum has a thread (https://www.criterionforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=1579&start=1250) dedicated to this topic which might be worth looking over.

More detailed technical information about specific players can be found at AVS Forum (https://www.avsforum.com/search/?t=post) by running a search.

Alternatively, you could purchase a dedicated region B player and plug it into another HDMI port, as many (at least on Criterion Forum) have said they've had longevity issues with some of the region-free blu-ray players available now.

Reminder that 4K blu-rays are region-free by default.
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: wilder on February 06, 2021, 09:24:32 PM
Quote from: Reelist on February 06, 2021, 01:20:40 PM
I'm looking for one too! I finally bought the Japanese Director's cut of Kill Bill Vol. 1 ( with the Crazy 88 sequence in color )

Reelist if you mean a Japanese blu-ray, it will play in a regular North American player, as they're both Region A. If it's a DVD that's a different story.
Title: Re: Region free players...worth it?
Post by: WorldForgot on February 07, 2021, 10:02:26 AM
Thank you, wilder!

Read that criterion thread, very informative, especially regarding PAL power sources. 220 seems to be the source everyone mentions so their modifications must have some reliability. How some of these region-modded players have been in people's use for half a decade but only gotten to <50 discs idk, yo! I'm lucky to have Cinefile nearby or something. I definitely am expecting that whichever model I get ought to last a handful of years. In that sense the OPPO does appear to be the make to last. Gonna think it over and go through the AVS forum.