it's ridiculous though, kill bill and the matrix were choreographed by the same guy; uma's kungfu is no better than Keanu's (Keanu had to learn like two weapons plus he did wushu long fist which is a little bit more demanding than the old school karate uma's doing), lucy liu didn't do anything as intricate as carrie ann moss; david carradine keeps on calling himself a hardcore but he's the biggest joke in the martial art world (his instructional tapes and seminars are all ran by other martial artists; he just talks between the sequences) and can't move for shit...etc. Kill Bill is just shot with more style and cleverness than The Matrix, but you can't really call the moves in Kill Bill any more real, because they're just as ugly and ungraceful and martial artistically-challenged (everyone in Hollywood always wants to work with Yuen Wo-Ping but as a choreographer he's pretty much limited to one style and he's not as versatile as someone like Jackie Chan or Sammo who's hopped from genre to genre and setting to setting) as anything in The Matrix. Use more real martial artists for god's sake. James Cann woulda been a great Bill. That guy's been studying for 20 years.
