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Title: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: filmcritic on July 22, 2003, 03:34:31 PM
While looking over "In Front of the Camera", I realized that there was no thread for Tom Cruise. He's a great actor and has worked with many talented directors. "Vanilla Sky", "Eyes Wide Shut", "Magnolia", "Born on the Fourth of July", "Jerry Maguire" and many other movies have really shown is depth as an actor.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on July 22, 2003, 03:44:33 PM
Indeed. And I tell you something... it really pisses me of when people say he can't act. He's done a great number of films and amazing performances, my favourite being as Frank T. J. Mackey. He's great.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: filmcritic on July 22, 2003, 03:47:14 PM
Oh, yeah! He absolutely can act!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: rustinglass on July 22, 2003, 03:57:44 PM
I think magnolia and eyes wide shut show that he can act. the "no, I don't want a microphone" bit in magnolia is his best work, in my opinion.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Alethia on July 22, 2003, 04:20:13 PM
He doesn't have much range, per se, i mean every performance is a Tom Cruise performance (including Magnolia, just a bit more hyped up than usual), but fuck man...nobody can do the shit he can do.  He's Tom Cruise.  End of story.  He is Tom Motherfucking Cruise.  Nobody else can do the wide eyed, jaw agape, staring off into space, thinking intensely, then bursting into a screaming fit proceeding to curl up on the floor in hysterics better than him.  Plus I don't think I'd want to see anybody crawling across the top of a speeding train, wrestling with John Voight, more than Tom Cruise.  There are several other actors who are all their own in every film in that sense (harrison ford, woody allen, etc), but y'know, who the fuck else would we want to see do it?

Tom Cruise is a terrific actor.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: rustinglass on July 22, 2003, 04:30:52 PM
Quote from: ewardThere are several other actors who are all their own in every film in that sense (harrison ford, woody allen, etc)

Can you imagine Tom Selleck was going to do Indiana Jones? I can't.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Alethia on July 22, 2003, 04:39:07 PM
yeah i honestly don't see that either................what about richard dreyfuss as han solo??????


actually, i really would have liked to have seen that..........
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jonas on July 22, 2003, 04:47:27 PM
I agree. I think he gets a lot of flak because he's such a box office draw and household name.

He's great in:
Born on the 4th of July
Magnolia
Eyes Wide Shut
Interview with the Vampire


I also thought he was decent in Jerry Maguire, Minority Report and Vanilla Sky. I'm awaiting the Last Samurai.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: SHAFTR on July 22, 2003, 07:41:01 PM
I think Cruise, along with Jim Carrey, are on top of their craft so much so it looks easy.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sleuth on July 22, 2003, 08:53:32 PM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: filmcritic on July 22, 2003, 09:48:10 PM
What do ya'll think is his best performance?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Alethia on July 22, 2003, 10:25:14 PM
born on the fourth of july
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: filmcritic on July 22, 2003, 11:03:38 PM
There are many too choose from.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: oakmanc234 on July 23, 2003, 05:36:32 AM
I was suprised how fucking good he was in 'Minority Report'. They advertised it like it was just some action hero gig for him, but he did some truly great dramatic stuff there.

His performance in 'Vanilla Sky' was under-rated too. Looking forward to 'Last Samurai'.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: filmcritic on July 23, 2003, 09:52:40 AM
Yes, a lot of his work is underrated. He should have been up for an Oscar for "Vanilla Sky", "Eyes Wide Shut" and "Rain Man".
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on July 23, 2003, 10:10:14 AM
my favorite performance by him is in Rain Man.

~rougerum
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: TheVoiceOfNick on July 23, 2003, 10:40:32 AM
Ok, has anyone seen "A Few Good Men"? That's one of my all time favorites, and I think both Tom and Jack were at their best in this... it shows Tom could play subtle characters that have issues to deal with...

Coincidentally, that movie is a favorite for beginning or ending my 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon bit...

Nick
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: filmcritic on July 23, 2003, 10:43:22 AM
Yeah, I liked that one too. It's not one of my favorites and I think it's a little overrated, but Cruise was excellent in that film.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on September 10, 2003, 01:51:15 AM
Tom Cruise Returning to the Skies in The Few
Source: Variety

Tom Cruise, who became a global star in Top Gun wants to return to the skies. He's up for playing Billy Fiske, the first American pilot killed fighting the Germans in World War II, in The Few for Paramount Pictures.

Michael Mann will direct, and John Logan, who wrote the upcoming Cruise-starrer The Last Samurai, is in talks to write the script, based on a book proposal by Alex Kershaw. Variety describes the story:

Fiske, an Olympic athlete and fighter pilot who was half-American and half-British, led a small group of American pilots who broke U.S. neutrality rules in the early days of WWII to fight with the British against the Nazis.

In 1940, expert German fighters had decimated the Royal Air Force to the point that there weren't enough pilots left to fly the Spitfire planes sitting idly in hangars. Unable to rouse the U.S. into action, a desperate Winston Churchill hatched a covert effort to recruit civilian American pilots to join the RAF. Risking prison sentences in the then-neutral U.S., a ragtag bunch of pilots answered the call.

Mann and Cruise are about to work together on Collateral.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pwaybloe on September 10, 2003, 10:51:26 AM
Sounds ok, but more importantly I'm eager to see Mann with that kind of budget.  

Great talent flowing through millions of dollars.  Let's hope they give him final cut, too.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Vile5 on September 10, 2003, 01:12:41 PM
his best work in my opinion is his Frank TJ Mackey, i know almost every character he made has something of himself, but that's not a crime for an actor, the actor's job is makes believe viewres that he/she is not acting, and Tom Cruise made that in Magnolia, and very very well (i don't know why he didn't win the oscar that year)
and i think he's a good actor but sometimes he wants to be just a star, as in Vanila Sky or MI, MI:2, or Days of Thunder etc... i just hope he'd decided being an actor in his next movie...
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Duck Sauce on November 02, 2003, 10:01:18 PM
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i dont care if they have been posted
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: picolas on November 02, 2003, 10:05:42 PM
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this movie must be set in the future, where every car has a giant fridge nailed to the front in order to save time.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Duck Sauce on November 02, 2003, 10:58:25 PM
yeah, how you like that macguffin
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on November 02, 2003, 11:13:17 PM
Quote from: Duck Sauceyeah, how you like that macguffin

How do you like mod-age beat you to it a while ago?
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Duck Sauce on November 02, 2003, 11:20:56 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Duck Sauceyeah, how you like that macguffin

How do you like mod-age beat you to it a while ago?
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1945&start=30


bud did he have the cab with the commercial refrigirator on the hood?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: meatball on November 06, 2003, 06:14:14 PM
I can't wait to see Last Samurai and Collateral. Has Tom Cruise ever had a slump? It seems like he's always been on top of his game ever since he got into acting.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on November 06, 2003, 06:46:59 PM
Quote from: meatballI can't wait to see Last Samurai and Collateral. Has Tom Cruise ever had a slump? It seems like he's always been on top of his game ever since he got into acting.

He did that Ron Howard movie with Nicole Kidman...
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Alethia on November 06, 2003, 09:44:18 PM
but we dont have to talk about that.........

the first movie he ever did was love story, was it not?  i think it was, lemme check........



EDIT: nope, my bad....ENDLESS LOVE....i was close
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Fernando on January 02, 2004, 10:55:30 AM
TOM CRUISE at The Actors Studio
Premieres Sunday, January 11 at 8/7 PM


'Also in January, Tom Cruise, one of America's most well loved actors, joins James Lipton on Inside the Actors Studio. Cruise, who began his teenage years studying to be a priest, soon found another calling – acting. From his film debut with a small part in Endless Love, it took him only two short years to land the starring role in Risky Business, a role for which he earned a Golden Globe nomination. Cruise's subsequent films include Top Gun, Born on the Fourth of July, A Few Good Men, Jerry Maguire, and Mission Impossible. His performances have earned him three Oscar nominations and three Golden Globe wins. Cruise can be seen most recently in the film The Last Samurai.'

Am I the only one who finds odd that they don't mention EWS or Magnolia?
I just hope James 'please tell me how you felt when you received the academy award' Lipton doesn't skip any of those.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on January 02, 2004, 11:35:33 AM
Oh, I'm positive Lipton will talk about those. He researches the hell out of everyone. It was just for advertising's sake to exclude them.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 25, 2004, 11:31:21 PM
Cruise and Cruz end three-year relationship

Tom Cruise and Penelope Cruz have ended their three-year relationship. The couple, who spent long periods apart while filming, "broke up at the end of January and it's amicable," said Lee Anne DeVette, Cruise's sister and publicist. Robert Garlock, Cruz's spokesman, told People magazine that neither star is dating anyone else and the two "remain good friends." Cruise, 41, starred in last year's "The Last Samurai" and appears alongside Jamie Foxx in the upcoming Michael Mann-directed thriller "Collateral." Cruz, 29, appeared in last year's "Gothika" and the recently released Italian film "Non ti Muovere (Don't Move)." She is to star alongside Charlize Theron in the upcoming "Head in the Clouds." Garlock said Cruz had not become a Scientologist like Cruise "but she has taken (church) courses and she's found them beneficial." He said Cruise's religion was not involved in the split. Cruise and Cruz met on the set of the 2001 film "Vanilla Sky." (AP)
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on March 25, 2004, 11:33:26 PM
I thought I had stumbled into eonline or people.com for a second.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on March 26, 2004, 01:15:16 AM
lol i knew that couldnt last... why the fuck did he get divorced from nicole in the first place... she is perfect
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Chest Rockwell on March 26, 2004, 04:40:10 AM
Creative differences?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: El Duderino on March 30, 2004, 06:59:18 PM
maybe he asked Nicole to do a three-way with Penelope and she just got angry.
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Post by: ono on March 30, 2004, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: El Duderinomaybe he asked Nicole to do a three-way with Penelope and she just got angry.
That would fall under "creative differences."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on April 12, 2004, 01:34:58 AM
Cruz Begs Cruise for Break-Up Explanation
12 April 2004 (WENN)
Spanish siren Penelope Cruz broke down and begged ex-love Tom Cruise to explain why they were no longer a couple during their dramatic Berlin, Germany reunion last week. The Vanilla Sky beauty, 29, was overheard asking her long term love, "Tell me why," as they shared an emotional dinner date in the German capital, where Cruise was looking at possible locations for upcoming movie Mission Impossible 3. And, according to onlookers at the Bocca Di Bacco restaurant, Tom tenderly held his former flame and comforted her as she wept openly in the plush eatery. One onlooker says, "Tom tried to comfort her, he put his arm around her and kissed her. He laid his arm around her shoulder and kissed her. Then she asked him again, 'Tell me why'". Cruise and Cruz split up in January but didn't reveal the break-up until last month.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on April 12, 2004, 01:37:28 AM
Quote from: the great andykThe Vanilla Sky beauty, 29, was overheard asking her long term love, "Tell me why,"
Because he's Tom Cruise :?:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on April 12, 2004, 01:39:47 AM
Oh snapz, what if hes gay?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on April 12, 2004, 01:47:47 AM
Quote from: StefenOh snapz, what if hes gay?
Where do I get in line
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Post by: Stefen on April 12, 2004, 01:49:20 AM
Quote from: Cinebunny
Quote from: StefenOh snapz, what if hes gay?
Where do I get in line

Can you think of any other reason he isn't with Nicole Kidman, or Penelope Cruz? Even if he doesn't like them he should stay with them just to look cool. Thats what being a movie star is all about.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on April 12, 2004, 01:51:06 AM
Being a free agent with the ladies doesn't look too bad either. He can 'own' anyone he wants.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on April 12, 2004, 01:54:11 AM
Quote from: CinebunnyBeing a free agent with the ladies doesn't look too bad either. He can 'own' anyone he wants.

heh, yeah, that's true.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on April 12, 2004, 01:55:29 AM
If you want to know the reason I can tell you...

SCIENTOLOGY
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Banky on April 13, 2004, 09:09:14 PM
im watching A Few Good Men and i was thinking about how many films Cruise has done in wich he is shadowed by his fathers career in his own


Top Gun
Days of Thunder
A Few Good Men
Vanilla Sky


those are off the top of my head

anyone else?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sigur Rós on April 14, 2004, 02:20:53 AM
Quote from: Banky

anyone else?

Magnolia?
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 06, 2005, 08:13:27 PM
BAFTA/LA will honor Cruise with Kubrick

Tom Cruise will be honored by the British Academy of Film and Television Arts/Los Angeles when it awards him its highest honor, the Stanley Kubrick Britannia Award for Excellence in Film, at its 14th annual Britannia Awards set for Nov. 10 at the Beverly Hilton. "Tom Cruise is the very embodiment of the consummate acting professional," BAFTA/LA chairman Gary Dartnall said in announcing the award. "For more than 20 years, he has been that rarest of them all: an unparalleled movie star who has attained both global fame and the most prestigious recognition of his acting talents." The Britannia has been awarded to Albert R. "Cubby" Broccoli, Peter Ustinov, Michael Caine, Martin Scorsese, Anthony Hopkins, Bob and Harvey Weinstein, Dustin Hoffman, Stanley Kubrick, Steven Spielberg, George Lucas and Hugh Grant. Last year, the award went to Tom Hanks. BAFTA/LA is a professional, independent, nonprofit organization founded in 1987 that operates as an affiliate of BAFTA, headquartered in London, and is the largest British professional industry organization outside of the U.K.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on June 07, 2005, 10:33:15 AM
man, this small lil freak has gone nuts lately.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: mogwai on June 07, 2005, 10:41:03 AM
Quote from: Katie HolmesTom, who's Stanley Kubrick?
Quote from: Tom CruiseHe directed Eyes Wide Shut. Nicole Kidman and I starred in it.
Quote from: Katie HolmesNicole who?
Quote from: Tom CruiseErrm, no one.
Quote from: Katie HolmesThat's my boy!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 07, 2005, 11:31:44 AM
katie: how u doin down there?

tom: what?

katie: i'm breaking up with u.

tom: what?

katie: i'm the first daughter.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 07, 2005, 02:38:25 PM
HAHA.

Katie - Hand me some cookies from that jar.

Tom - Hand me that chair so I can reach them.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: mogwai on June 07, 2005, 02:44:20 PM
First date

Quote from: Tom CruiseJesus... you're taller than me!
Quote from: Katie HolmesWell, I'm sorry... but... what's wrong?
Quote from: Tom CruiseOh no! Katie, can you blow my nose?
Quote from: Katie HolmesHow can I blow it when it's in my navel?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Fernando on June 07, 2005, 05:19:05 PM
Int. Bedroom.

Quote from: FernandoWhy the hell did you said that Vanilla Sky was the best flim you made to date? Did you forget about working with Kubrick already?
Quote from: Tom CruiseWhat the fuck!??!
Quote from: Katie HolmesWhat's Vanilla Sky?
Quote from: Tom CruiseThe flim I made with Cameron and penelope, you know my previous...
Quote from: Katie HolmesPenelope who?
Quote from: Tom CruiseErrm, no one.
Quote from: Katie HolmesThat's my boy!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cowboykurtis on June 07, 2005, 08:01:38 PM
Tom: Have you seen the war of the worlds trailer?

Katie: Have you seen the Batman Begins trailer?

Tom: I'lll watch yours if you watch mine.

Katie: Deal!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on June 07, 2005, 08:15:05 PM
i didnt make this, just sharing...
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 07, 2005, 10:01:44 PM
haha tom cruise doing his best howard dean impression. man, i'm gonna have some fun with this chump alll summer long. HE'S GONE OFF THE DEEP END!!! haha.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: meatball on June 07, 2005, 11:26:27 PM
Quote from: Stefen Posts Drunkerhaha tom cruise doing his best howard dean impression. man, i'm gonna have some fun with this chump alll summer long. HE'S GONE OFF THE DEEP END!!! haha.

You're not going to do anything but dish out ten bucks to see him in a summer blockbuster/remake of a classic. And, probably your mother and father and friends and family will all do the same. Tom wins. haha.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 08, 2005, 09:28:54 AM
Quote from: velveteena summer blockbuster/remake of a classic.
seriously, the original wasn't that good. the only things classic about it are its age, the original wells book, and the welles radio play. so paying $10 to see a massive improvement on the original is actually a good thing for all.

anyway, back to hilarity please..
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ghostboy on June 08, 2005, 11:40:26 PM
Quote from: Pubrick

anyway, back to hilarity please..

Done and done: http://drtomcruisemd.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on June 08, 2005, 11:42:50 PM
haha, whoever wrote that has the cruises voice/mannerisms down cold.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on June 11, 2005, 02:14:35 PM
Website aims to 'liberate' Holmes
 
You've seen the "Free Kobe" T-shirts, and the "Free Michael" T-shirts. Now, there's a movement afoot to "free" Katie Holmes, the young star of the upcoming "Batman Begins."

Former entertainment producer and executive Sheila Cameron has created www.freekatie.net , where Americans are invited to help "liberate Katie, a young, gifted actress held captive by forces we may never understand. Even one summer of captivity is too long for one so bright!"

The site contends that Holmes is in a prison of sorts, due to Tom Cruise's hyper-public expressions of love. The website offers ways to "help": purchase a "Free Katie" T-shirt, mug or baseball cap, rant on message boards, or simply spread the word.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 12, 2005, 10:00:13 AM
katieholmes does it too though
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on June 12, 2005, 10:41:56 AM
yeah, this is just to make money quickly.  those are the worst designs i've ever seen.  atleast the free winona's were pleasing and had some weird graphic.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 12, 2005, 04:09:32 PM
free scott peterson
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Post by: Bethie on June 12, 2005, 11:20:14 PM
free your mind
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Post by: Sleuth on June 12, 2005, 11:37:03 PM
freebird!
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Post by: Stefen on June 12, 2005, 11:49:16 PM
:tomcruisesingingfreefalling.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on June 13, 2005, 02:52:31 AM
Cruise Says Holmes 'Digs' Scientology

Tom Cruise says girlfriend Katie Holmes "digs" the Church of Scientology. In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Cruise says the 26-year-old "Batman Begins" actress is curious about Scientology, founded by L. Ron Hubbard.

"Yes, absolutely. She digs it," the 42-year-old actor tells the magazine.

When asked if he's become more passionate about Scientology, Cruise says: "I've always been passionate about it. I've always talked about it when people asked about it."

He also confirmed there was a Scientology massage tent on the set of his upcoming film, "War of the Worlds."

"I also had a cappuccino tent on that set. And I made sure the crews were fed well, too. And if someone wanted an assist from a (Scientology) volunteer, it was there for them," he says. "People are curious about it they're always asking me about it, they want to know what Scientology is."

In an EW.com poll, 61 percent of respondents said they liked Cruise less now after the recent exhaustive attention to his personal life, 3 percent said they liked him more, and 36 percent said their viewpoint of the "Top Gun" star hadn't changed.

When asked by the interviewer if he's going to propose to Holmes, Cruise whispered, "It's gonna happen, man. It'll happen."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 13, 2005, 03:34:00 AM
he's gone insane. seriously, he's acting the way only a brainwashed cult member acts. and i doubt it's a scientology thing, he's just really lost his mind. severe mid-life psychotic episode. i hate to say it, but he needs to fail tragically at sumthing soon, or he'll never come back to earth. that, or he needs robin williams to tell him it's not his fault.. immediately.

he'll end up back with mimi rogers in the end. i would.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cowboykurtis on June 13, 2005, 03:43:46 AM
this is all quite unsettling
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on June 13, 2005, 09:38:42 AM
Cruise, where art thou dignity!?!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 13, 2005, 12:08:47 PM
This guy really got to the point where he doesnt need anything... Whatever movie he wants to produce, or act, or whatever he wants he gets... He has money for anything in the world... He can get any girl or man that he wants... its normal that he explodes and acts like a crazy person... he'll be ok
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cowboykurtis on June 13, 2005, 12:15:22 PM
the unsettling thing is such behavior is usually seen by people who have just obtained their wealth and power. cruise has had the power and freedom you've described for decades. For the mos,t part he has handled it as gracefully as one can (please take gracefully with a grain of salt).

To suddenly be acting like a bafoon can only lead to one assumption -- insanity.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Daliang on June 14, 2005, 12:46:37 PM
I knew he was insane the minute he dumped Nicole Kidman; it all just kind of went downhill from there, didn't it?  :saywhat:

But seriously, I respect that he has his beliefs and what not, but he has no right to go around and belittle others for theirs. (i.e. Brooke Shields). Yes, he is a great actor and has done a really impressive group of work, but he needs to get his head out of his ass.

If he isn't careful he could meet the same fate as Mel Gibson; only known for how extremely faithful he is to the things he believes.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 14, 2005, 04:10:45 PM
Quick, somebody give me a redirect or update on this whole Tom vs. Brooke deal!
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 14, 2005, 08:11:20 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13Quick, somebody give me a redirect or update on this whole Tom vs. Brooke deal!

Brooke & Tom's War of the Words

Brooke Shields has officially engaged with Tom Cruise in what is fast becoming a celebrity war of the words.

After Cruise criticized Shields' use of antidepressants as "irresponsible" during an interview with Access Hollywood last week, Shields has suggested the leading man keep his opinions to himself.

"Tom Cruise's comments are irresponsible and dangerous," Shields said in London last week. "Tom should stick to saving the world from aliens and let women who are experiencing postpartum depression decide what treatment options are best for them."

Shields recently published Down Came the Rain, a personal chronicle of her struggle with depression following the 2003 birth of her daughter, Rowan. The memoir delves into the actress' use of Paxil as a form of treatment for her condition and is meant to inspire other women to seek help.

"Don't be ashamed, and don't disregard what you are feeling," Shields writes in the book. "I recovered only because I got help."

The actress has said she is currently in the process of weaning herself from the drug in order to try for a second child with husband Chris Henchy.

However, as a dedicated follower of Scientology, Cruise is of the belief that mind-altering medications of any kind are "dangerous" and that women should treat conditions such as postpartum depression with "vitamins." Hence his stamp of disapproval on Shields' choice to use Paxil and to discuss that choice in her memoir.

"When you talk about postpartum, you can take people today, women, and what you do is you use vitamins. There is a hormonal thing that is going on, scientifically, you can prove that. But when you talk about emotional, chemical imbalances in people, there is no science behind that," the actor told Access Hollywood.

"When someone says [medication] has helped them, it is to cope, it didn't cure anything. There is no science. There is nothing that can cure them whatsoever," Cruise said.

Cruise went on to make a not-so-subtle jab at the former Suddenly Susan star's professional life.

"I care about Brooke Shields because I think she is an incredibly talented women, [but] look at where her career has gone."

Ouch. True, Shields' latest pilot, New Car Smell, was recently passed over by Fox, but the actress has been earning positive reviews in the role of Roxie Hart in the London theater production of Chicago.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 14, 2005, 10:16:23 PM
Thanks Mac. I knew I could count on you. :yabbse-wink:  :kiss:

Quote from: Ghostboyhttp://drtomcruisemd.blogspot.com/
It all makes sense now.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 14, 2005, 10:59:29 PM
This guy is so fake. He just gets on my nerves. Even now in this interview I just saw him on, every other word out of his mouth was "that's hot" what's hot? Tom Cruise is on Stefens shit list.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 14, 2005, 11:00:59 PM
I dont want you to feel bad but I dont think he gives a shit  :kiss:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 14, 2005, 11:02:01 PM
Yeah, thats why hes on my shit list. He's an arrogant faker.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 14, 2005, 11:32:05 PM
good point

I still think he is great for what he is supposed to be... a good actor, a great celebrity that always makes headlines with some crazy shit, and he is working on fun projects

thats all i need... i dont give a shit about his personal life or how crazy he is because it doesnt really affect me at all
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pas on June 15, 2005, 07:23:55 AM
Quote from: andykalgood point

I still think he is great for what he is supposed to be... a good actor, a great celebrity that always makes headlines with some crazy shit, and he is working on fun projects

thats all i need... i dont give a shit about his personal life or how crazy he is because it doesnt really affect me at all

Completly agree. Celebrities are meant for stuff like that. Tom Cruise is one of my favorite celebrity because he won't stop saying/doing stupid shit and that's just nice.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on June 17, 2005, 07:10:47 AM
Tom Cruise Proposes to Katie Holmes

Actor Tom Cruise said he and girlfriend Katie Holmes are engaged, after he popped the question early Friday morning atop the Eiffel Tower.

Cruise, speaking at a Paris news conference with Holmes, said: "Yes, I proposed to her."

The couple often shared smiles and blushes as Cruise turned to look at her, with a massive diamond ring on her finger.

"It was early this morning at the Eiffel Tower, so I haven't slept at all," he said. "Today is a magnificent day for me, I'm engaged to a magnificent woman."

Asked why he chose the famed Paris landmark, he said: "I've never been to the Eiffel Tower. It's Paris, it's a beautiful city, it's very romantic."

Cruise said no date for a wedding has been set: "We haven't discussed that one step at a time," he said. "Let's see. We're not sure."

Cruise, 42, was in Paris to promote the French release of the Steven Spielberg film "War of the Worlds" next month. He and 26-year-old Holmes went public with their romantic relationship in April.

Holmes did not speak to reporters, but at one point, Cruise whispered to her: "Are you OK?" Afterward, the two hurried into a car before leaving for a promotional event in Marseilles, southern France.

"I wish them the happiest marriage that anyone has ever had," said Dakota Fanning, the child actress who co-stars with Cruise in the film. She sat next to Holmes during the news conference.

Cruise and Holmes have faced repeated rumors of marriage. The relationship started after Cruise split from actress Penelope Cruz, and Holmes and actor Chris Klein called off their long-standing engagement.

While in Berlin two days ago, Cruise dismissed speculation by tabloid newspapers and celebrity gossip columns that their relationship is a stunt to promote their new movies.

Holmes was in London earlier this week to promote her new film, "Batman Begins." She had also dismissed accusations that the couple had staged a relationship for publicity.

Holmes said then that she was embracing Scientology Cruise's religion. The former star of television's "Dawson's Creek" grew up with a poster of Cruise on her bedroom wall and has said she grew up wanting to marry him.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 17, 2005, 08:53:55 AM
They'll be divorced by the time MI3 comes out... or maybe Batman Continues
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on June 17, 2005, 10:57:27 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinWhile in Berlin two days ago, Cruise dismissed speculation by tabloid newspapers and celebrity gossip columns that their relationship is a stunt to promote their new movies.
maybe their new movies are just a stunt to promote their relationship?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on June 17, 2005, 11:33:11 AM
well I figured it was coming sooner or later, it probably won't last because

A) too much of an age difference

B) he'll realize she's not that great and just a young girl as immature as any

C) I'm sure nicole kidman has no desire to share her kids with her so they'll be some conflict there
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 17, 2005, 03:54:19 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin"I wish them the happiest marriage that anyone has ever had," said Dakota Fanning, the child actress who co-stars with Cruise in the film. She sat next to Holmes during the news conference.
It's always good to know that Dakota Fanning has your back.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 17, 2005, 05:16:22 PM
Holmes is a fool if she marrys that goblin, and converts to scientology. Just cuz.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jtm on June 17, 2005, 06:39:56 PM
a good friend of mine who has worked with Tom Cruise numerous times swears that he is indeed, queer to the bone.

don't know how true it is, just thought i'd throw it out there.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on June 17, 2005, 06:49:43 PM
I never took him as gay since he's fooled around with Nicole Kidman, Penelope Cruz and Katie Holmes...but that could just be a cover up for his queerness. I don't think it's true, but it'd be hilarious if that was really the case.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 18, 2005, 12:31:23 AM
Quote from: Small Town LonerI never took him as gay since he's fooled around with Nicole Kidman
But he married and had children with her????
There was a rumor, while they were still married (sometime around Eyes Wide Shut, perhaps?), that Cruise was queer and had possible relations with a totally queer dude.
Yeah? Anyone else remember this?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on June 18, 2005, 02:24:15 AM
Quote from: ranemaka13
Quote from: Small Town LonerI never took him as gay since he's fooled around with Nicole Kidman
But he married and had adopted children with her????

Quote from: ranemaka13There was a rumor, while they were still married (sometime around Eyes Wide Shut, perhaps?), that Cruise was queer and had possible relations with a totally queer dude.
Yeah? Anyone else remember this?

Cruise Sues Gay Porn Star

We're not quite sure what's allowable in courtrooms these days, but Tom Cruise is ready to "prove in court" that he is not gay.

In arguably the most direct attempt yet to stamp out rumors about his sexual orientation, Cruise filed a $100 million defamation lawsuit Wednesday against a gay porn star, who allegedly claimed in tabloid reports that he had an affair with the actor.

The complaint, filed in Los Angeles Superior Court, claims Chad Slater (an "erotic wrestler" who also goes by the name Kyle Bradford) "concocted and spread the completely false story that he had a continuing homosexual affair with Tom Cruise and that this affair was discovered by Mr. Cruise's wife, leading to their divorce."

According to the suit, Cruise "had no relationship of any kind with Kyle Bradford and does not even know him." But Bradford allegedly told international magazine Actustar that he had an ongoing affair with Cruise, and that Nicole Kidman walked in on them during a "romantic encounter," prompting the couple to split up. The story was translated and later repeated in the Spanish-language magazine TVyNovelas.

"It is absolutely 100 percent false," Cruise's attorney, Bert Fields, tells E! Online. "[Cruise] is a great respecter of homosexual rights, but he's not gay, and he's ready to prove this in court. Tom is tired of it and it hurts his children. It's something that will be there forever. And damn it, he's going to stop it."

Bradford, whose film credits include The Cockpit Club and Forced to Submit, is apparently known in the U.S. "for his porn movies where he likes to climb into a ring and have encounters with his partners," according the Actustar article. The skin-flick thespian claimed to Actustar that he received a phone call while in Paris "from a Tom Finigham, who proposed to have a private encounter, specifically in a ring." Bradford apparently claimed in the article that it was actually Cruise, and that they had an ongoing affair.

Bradford, however, denies the allegations. In a statement, he says, "Regarding the news everyone has been reading...I have never been to France, I have never spoken with Actustar Magazine, and have never said any of the statements allegedly said by me. The things being reported internationally are totally untrue and very hurtful to all parties."

Meanwhile, Fields says Actustar has since published a retraction of the story. But Cruise is now prepared to target any other publications--domestic or foreign--that reprint the tale.

"He's going to sue anybody who repeats this story, even as a rumor," Fields said. He added that Cruise is willing to take the case as far as necessary. "We're very anxious to hear what this porn actor says under oath about this garbage story he's handing out."

By Wednesday afternoon, Bradford's personal Website was shut down. "Due to uncontrollable circumstances, kylebradford.com will be unavailable for a while," the site reads.

Over the years, Cruise's bedroom habits have been a matter of intense speculation for the tabloids. But the 38-year-old star has grown increasingly vigilant about taking on rumor-mongers. In 1997, Kidman told Ladies' Home Journal that she and her husband would take the offensive on reports claiming their marriage was a sham. "[W]e are going to sue over it," she said. "It gets to a point where you have to protect your children."

The couple also successfully sued the Star supermarket tabloid in 1999, after it published a story claiming Cruise and Kidman needed a sex coach for their steamy scenes in Stanley Kubrick's film, Eyes Wide Shut. The lawsuit was later settled, with the Star issuing a full retraction and making an unspecified donation to a charity of Cruise and Kidman's choice.

Cruise and Kidman, 33, have been separated since last December. Cruise filed for divorce in February, citing irreconcilable differences. The couple has two adopted kids, Isabella Jane, 8, and Connor Anthony, 6.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 18, 2005, 02:29:13 AM
He is not gay... like every super star he probably experimented with a lot of shit, but that doesnt make him gay... I know a girl that fucked him not long ago
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: mogwai on June 18, 2005, 05:19:28 AM
the only thing that is gay about cruise is his current "i-have-a-new-girlfriend" wardrobe.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Thrindle on June 18, 2005, 12:43:02 PM
He's gay.  Anyone remember Rock Hudson?  Yeah, no one wanted to believe he was gay either.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 18, 2005, 12:45:00 PM
Who cares if hes gay? I only care that he's gotdamn crazy. That freakin weirdo.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: matt35mm on June 18, 2005, 02:32:06 PM
I'm one of the few, I guess, who is happy for them.  I, like everyone else, was... confused by the whole thing at first.  But after a while, I figured: once in a while, you find that love where you just want to scream out to the whole world that you are in love.  Tom Cruise is one of the only people in the world who actually CAN scream this to the ENTIRE world.

By doing this, eventually people will get tired of it and leave them alone--whereas if they tried to hide it, it would just fuel a "Bennifer" like thing that would tear them apart and ruin their lives.

We're all getting to the point where we don't want to hear about this anymore.  And so eventually no one will care, and they'll be free to just relax and enjoy their relationship.

Call me a romantic, but this is how love should be if it could be.  I don't believe that this is a publicity stunt (but I'm not gonna deny that possibility).
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ultrahip on June 18, 2005, 04:18:58 PM
I think it's called punch-drunk love.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 19, 2005, 07:11:39 AM
Quote from: UltrahipI think it's called punch-drunk love.
that movie was a sham.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pas on June 19, 2005, 03:27:18 PM
Quote from: Small Town Lonerwell I figured it was coming sooner or later, it probably won't last because

A) too much of an age difference

B) he'll realize she's not that great and just a young girl as immature as any

C) I'm sure nicole kidman has no desire to share her kids with her so they'll be some conflict there

Are you a middle-aged housewife or what ?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on June 19, 2005, 09:38:54 PM
hahahaha.....


this is the best thread going right now...everybody is ripping this tool  :yabbse-thumbup:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on June 19, 2005, 09:57:30 PM
Spielberg: Media 'punished' love-struck Cruise

Director Steven Spielberg says the media "punished" Tom Cruise for the actor's televised, soul-baring declaration of love for Katie Holmes. But in an interview with Newsweek magazine released on Sunday the director downplayed speculation that the giddy public displays of affection by Cruise could damage Paramount Picture's publicity for his upcoming summer release "War of the Worlds." The $135 million-spectacle, based on the science-fiction novel by H.G. Wells, opens June 29. "I was a little upset. I was a little upset," Spielberg told the magazine, referring to the attention generated by Cruise's recent appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 19, 2005, 10:07:34 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin"I was a little upset. I was a little upset," Spielberg told the magazine, referring to the attention generated by Cruise's recent appearance on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."
that means a lot coming from the master of positive spin.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 19, 2005, 10:57:49 PM
QuoteTom Cruise squirted with water through gag microphone


LONDON – An interview with Tom Cruise found the actor all wet.

While Cruise was giving an on-the-spot interview at the "War of the Worlds" premiere in London, he was squirted in the face with water. The water came from what appeared to be a microphone.

Four men who were part of a freelance camera crew were arrested. They could face assault charges

An unamused Cruise told the culprit, "I'm here giving you an interview and answering your questions and you do something really nasty. You're a jerk."

After the incident, Cruise continued to greet fans. Cruise's fiancee, actress Katie Holmes, attended the premiere but wasn't next to him during the incident.

hahahahahaha. god, this dudes life just keeps getting funnier and funnier. He's becoming a joke right before our very own eyes.   http://www.tampabays10.com/weird/weird_article.aspx?storyid=15047
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 19, 2005, 11:01:29 PM
QuoteThey could face assault charges.
get it?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 19, 2005, 11:25:10 PM
I don't get it.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 19, 2005, 11:26:58 PM
Nobody does that to Tom Cruise and expect to walk away laughing... no señor
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: mogwai on June 19, 2005, 11:29:37 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tampabays10.com%2Fassetpool%2Fimages%2F0561921287_cruise-water.jpg&hash=7ce045808ea2e09d36c344fa8ee6f65b23c778d8)

it looks like something else.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Myxo on June 20, 2005, 01:56:22 AM
You're a jerk!

..and a lighter note if you watch the Tampa news covering the incident, the anchorman says "It's hard to feel sorry for a guy who gets paid 20 million per picture."

I'm surprised but glad that Tom didn't kick his ass. Coulda been poison for all he knew.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jtm on June 20, 2005, 02:10:25 AM
oh man, this made my day!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on June 20, 2005, 10:29:04 AM
wooow that was hilarious! I thought Tom Cruise was gonna kill him right there. Instead he just kept repeating "why would you do that???"
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 20, 2005, 10:46:44 AM
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?He's becoming a joke right before our very own eyes.
Becoming?

What if the rest of Tom Cruise's career was plagued with childish practical jokes? That would be hilarious, just over and over, water to the face. At the Oscars when he dies, they can just do a gag reel of face hits. I hope he and Jenna Jameson die in the same year, so we'll have two hilarious gag reels.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 20, 2005, 04:04:24 PM
Oh, come one guys, am I the only one who feels a little sorry for him?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 20, 2005, 04:17:53 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13Oh, come one guys, am I the only one who feels a little sorry for him?

Dude, he brings it upon himself with his prep school arrogance. The dude is so fake it's funny. Normally I would feel sorry for these things happening to someone, but I just can't feel sorry for Tom Frickin Cruise.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 20, 2005, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13Oh, come one guys, am I the only one who feels a little sorry for him?

no.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jtm on June 20, 2005, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: ranemaka13Oh, come one guys, am I the only one who feels a little sorry for him?

sorry for him? the dudes got 100's of millions of dollars, a killer resume and can get just about any girl (or guy) he wants.... no sympathy here.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Brazoliange on June 20, 2005, 08:49:00 PM
http://cruiseoprah.ytmnd.com/ heh
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on June 20, 2005, 10:07:57 PM
Quote from: Jay Tee Emsorry for him? the dudes got 100's of millions of dollars, a killer resume and can get just about any girl (or guy) he wants.... no sympathy here.
I'm quietly judging you. :ponder:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 20, 2005, 10:56:06 PM
well, i still feel kinda bad for him in that whole water-gun thing.

but after thinking about, i realized i feel bad for him NOT because some dude squirted him in the face -- but because i'm embarassed for him 'cause he reacted the way he did. he shoulda just laughed. for real.

he's such a dramatic man! i saw this interview with him the other night on tv where he gets so INTO it when he's talking about his whole scientology thing -- he's like, "I'm doing this because I care. I CARE. I CARE ABOUT YOU -" he points to the camera operators, "AND YOU, AND YOU! All of you!" ...i like tom cruise.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 20, 2005, 11:03:04 PM
Thats the thing man, he's fake. He acts like he cares but he doesn't act on it. He's Tom Cruise, he has more money than god, yet all he does is make movies and beg for publicity. If he cares so much why isn't he out helping other people, if he's as good as he says he is, he should be doing that. Granted, noone would ever dedicate all their time to helping others, but not everyone pretends to care about others so much like Tom Cruise does. He's got you right where he wants you.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Myxo on June 21, 2005, 12:05:56 AM
He reacted the way he did because he's Tom Cruise!

Tom can't just let a guy squirt water in his face during an interview. He's a movie star!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: picolas on June 21, 2005, 01:02:02 AM
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?If he cares so much why isn't he out helping other people, if he's as good as he says he is, he should be doing that.
what're you talking about? when did he say nice things about himself?

also, he keeps trying to help people by lashing out against psychiatry.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 21, 2005, 01:43:57 AM
Quote from: picolas
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?If he cares so much why isn't he out helping other people, if he's as good as he says he is, he should be doing that.
what're you talking about? when did he say nice things about himself?

also, he keeps trying to help people by lashing out against psychiatry.

When Hedwig quotes Cruise as saying, "I care, I care about you, you and you" while he's promoting a movie, it seems a little suspect. Shouldn't he be out helping people as oppose to saying he cares about them in an interview while promoting a movie that's supposed to make it "Tom Cruises" summer. Maybe he does care, but only when he has a big time movie to promote. I'd care too then, if I was fake like him. What does he care about the other 10 months out of the year he's not promoting a movie? Wiping old peoples asses? Helping a single mother carry her groceries to her ride?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jtm on June 21, 2005, 02:14:34 AM
the only reason Tom Cruise is getting all this strange publicity is because he got rid of his old publicist and hired his sister.... it's obvious they got together and decided to create a new public persona to make him appear to be an "all around, down to earth guy"....  and then it backfired and now we all get a good laugh.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: deathnotronic on June 21, 2005, 02:59:26 AM
They were talking about this on Mitch Albom today and they were making Tom out to be this terribly bad guy for getting mad at the dude.

You really have to consider the circumstances and the stresses that were involved. It was the fucking War or the Worlds movie premiere. I can only imagine how stressed out he was and not in the mood to put up with peoples bullshit.

Albom was also saying that Tom Cruise thinks he's a larger than life star and he talks down to people. The only evidence he provided was this clip of Tom saying, "I granted you this interview and this is what you do?" or something of that nature. They were tearing into him saying how he thinks he's a god because of his celebrity status and I thought it was a ludicrous claim. After interviewing 30+ fairly big bands you realize that it really is a privelidge to receive interviews and that they really don't have to take time of out of their day to sit down with you.

I don't know, I side with Tom. I would've done the same thing plus a few right hooks and left spars.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: picolas on June 21, 2005, 03:03:13 AM
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?When Hedwig quotes Cruise as saying, "I care, I care about you, you and you" while he's promoting a movie, it seems a little suspect. Shouldn't he be out helping people as oppose to saying he cares about them in an interview while promoting a movie that's supposed to make it "Tom Cruises" summer.
i think he said that in the et special where he was trying to help people by telling them not to go to psychiatrists.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 21, 2005, 07:23:40 AM
Quote from: picolas
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?When Hedwig quotes Cruise as saying, "I care, I care about you, you and you" while he's promoting a movie, it seems a little suspect. Shouldn't he be out helping people as oppose to saying he cares about them in an interview while promoting a movie that's supposed to make it "Tom Cruises" summer.
i think he said that in the et special where he was trying to help people by telling them not to go to psychiatrists.

yeah, that's where i saw it.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 21, 2005, 07:42:45 AM
i am embarrassed for him. he was the greatest and now he's starting to be a joke. i first realised sumthing was wrong when he had a laughing fit the last time he was on letterman. there was not one person in the studio or at home watching it that didn't feel awkward. still, he was no John Goodman.

basically the dude is making too many mistakes after spending so long on top, it's kind of sad.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on June 21, 2005, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: Pubricki am embarrassed for him. he was the greatest and now he's starting to be a joke. i first realised sumthing was wrong when he had a laughing fit the last time he was on letterman. there was not one person in the studio or at home watching it that didn't feel awkward. still, he was no John Goodman.

basically the dude is making too many mistakes after spending so long on top, it's kind of sad.
i agree with all of this.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on June 21, 2005, 11:01:13 AM
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it looks like something else.

hahaha. .. it looks like michael clark duncan gave him a facial....


i gotta admit we here at xixax were to first to notice this guys insanity...i think the guy sa good "movie star" but hes kind of wacko.  but i guess if i beleived in aliens and all of that scientology mess, were-in however much money i have ,i can reach salvation then i would be fucked up too.  and peopel want to diss on Christianity :yabbse-rolleyes: .......

maybe he's going through a mid life crisis or some shit like that.  one of his biggest mistakes was leaving nicole kidman IMO....shes hot, smart , cool,   incredible talent, tall, [could use a tan], she's got nice tits and a neat pussy-we've all seen it.  plus she put up w/ his scientology stuff.  after he ditched her he went to peneolpe cruz -who's hot too. bu thas a fucked up nose.  but she didnt like that scientology junk.  so, she said 'peace" to him.  and that leaves you to katie homes.  serioulsy shes cheesy and has a fuckeed up mouth/lip.  like gamblor pointed out.  the only thing i can think about her mouth is that it would be neat to receive a blowjob from her.  b/c of her slanted lips.   and shes all like "OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!! MY HERO , MR FLIGHTER PILOT FROM TOP GUN LOOOOOOOOVVVES ME!!!! OH HES SO SEXY!!!!!!!!!OH MY GIZ-OSH!!!!!!!IT'S ALL HAPPENING.  ALL THOSE YEARS FINGERING MYSELF AND FANTASIZING TO TEEN BEAT MAGAZINE HAS PAID OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!"


.....one of the reasons why tom probobley likes her is b/c she dont care about scientology also.  sh'es just like "oh well, as long is tommy loves me i can believe in aliens too"....

plus, tom needs to be able to take soem shit from : the media and us.  hes been on top for too long.

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lastly, that stupuid shit he said too brook shields about not takign medicationb too help ease post -partom deprerssion.  what the fuck man????  he needs to get out of her business.  if i was a dyke i would be really pissed about that shit.  if people need medication to help out-so be it.  cruise has no right to diss on people who take medication.  i take medication and use to go to shrinks [which may fianlly explain some things to the xixaxians] .....i am glad i do take that shit.....who knows....i could end up like cruise and go insane if i didnt' take medication.........................
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Fernando on June 21, 2005, 11:01:58 AM
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?If he cares so much why isn't he out helping other people, if he's as good as he says he is, he should be doing that.

Just an example found at the imdb trivia of WofW.

QuoteTrivia: While filming nearby, Tom Cruise along with a 20 member entourage including Steven Spielberg visited a Lexington, Virginia, Dairy Queen. Cruise saw a jar on the counter with a photo of Ashley Flint and her story. Flint was in a go-cart accident a few months earlier, leaving her family with a mountain of hospital bills. Cruise put $5000 cash into the jar.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 21, 2005, 11:19:22 AM
QuoteWhat the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise NEON?
Quote from: CinephileNeon:
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 21, 2005, 11:23:36 AM
Quote from: Fernando
Quote from: Stefen Posts Ghetto?If he cares so much why isn't he out helping other people, if he's as good as he says he is, he should be doing that.

Just an example found at the imdb trivia of WofW.

QuoteTrivia: While filming nearby, Tom Cruise along with a 20 member entourage including Steven Spielberg visited a Lexington, Virginia, Dairy Queen. Cruise saw a jar on the counter with a photo of Ashley Flint and her story. Flint was in a go-cart accident a few months earlier, leaving her family with a mountain of hospital bills. Cruise put $5000 cash into the jar.

yeah he seems like a good guy. he just needs to lighten up a little. suing the squirter is pretty dumb - he should just be like, "Hey, sorry I freaked out at your lame-ass prank, but it's all in fun," and get on with his acting career, 'casue damn it, he's a great actor.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Myxo on June 21, 2005, 11:28:31 AM
Quote from: Pubricki am embarrassed for him. he was the greatest and now he's starting to be a joke. i first realised sumthing was wrong when he had a laughing fit the last time he was on letterman. there was not one person in the studio or at home watching it that didn't feel awkward. still, he was no John Goodman.

basically the dude is making too many mistakes after spending so long on top, it's kind of sad.

Oh god. Did you see the outtakes for Oprah where he had a laughing fit for Katie Holmes?

That was the worst. Fucking aweful.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on June 21, 2005, 01:30:41 PM
To see the whole dreadful Oprah show, click here:

Part 1 -
http://media.starbuzz.com/tom/oprah-may23-1.zip

Part 2 -
http://media.starbuzz.com/tom/oprah-may23-2.zip
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Thrindle on June 21, 2005, 01:51:59 PM
He was so over the top... reminded me of Molly Shannon on SNL when she'd play that talk show host (doing kicks and shit like that).
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 21, 2005, 03:04:54 PM
hehe it's really not as ridiculous as i thought...Oprah says, "THe boy is gone," and he's like, "I'm STANDING on your COUCH."

the audience is so goofy..."WOOOOOOOOOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Thrindle on June 21, 2005, 05:22:53 PM
I watched the entire show, he really was ridiculous.  Over the top, yelling at everything, loving the entire human race, feeding us bite after bite of sweet saccharine.  It was so queer... as in odd.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: matt35mm on June 21, 2005, 07:42:53 PM
Quote from: ThrindleI watched the entire show, he really was ridiculous.  Over the top, yelling at everything, loving the entire human race, feeding us bite after bite of sweet saccharine.  It was so queer... as in odd.
You're so cynical.  I wish I could love the entire human race.  It should be a good thing.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jtm on June 21, 2005, 07:55:04 PM
Quote from: matt35mm
Quote from: ThrindleI watched the entire show, he really was ridiculous.  Over the top, yelling at everything, loving the entire human race, feeding us bite after bite of sweet saccharine.  It was so queer... as in odd.
You're so cynical.  I wish I could love the entire human race.  It should be a good thing.

but he doesn't love the entire human race.  he just wants us to think he does.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 21, 2005, 08:26:29 PM
No, I think he's too dumb to know what loving the human race would be like. Mother Theresa, she probably did love the human race. Tom Cruise....not so much.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jtm on June 21, 2005, 08:58:33 PM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 21, 2005, 09:09:06 PM
....haha. creepy
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 21, 2005, 11:31:56 PM
Anakin has to come in and chop his head off
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: matt35mm on June 22, 2005, 01:34:01 PM
Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkNo, I think he's too dumb to know what loving the human race would be like. Mother Theresa, she probably did love the human race. Tom Cruise....not so much.
I don't think Tom Cruise is stupid.  He WANTS to love everybody and that's admirable.  He seems to be trying to just live life excitedly and all that.

He's comfortable in his own skin.  I'm still happy for him.  His behavior is only strange relative to everyone else in the world--but he's one of the few people who dares to just be himself and not give a damn what others think of him.  He's an individual, to be sure.  But nothing he's done suggests that he's stupid.

And he makes good points about things.  He goes too far in DEMONIZING psychology and prescription drugs, but certainly he makes some good points by suggesting that the human mind is strong enough on its own if people.

He's idealistic.  And I never thought there was anything wrong with being idealistic.  Just think of all the idealistic people from the past that people thought were crazies that are now respected.  I just think everybody's too quick to judge him.  He's DIFFERENT, no doubt.  MAYBE? that's a good thing.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 22, 2005, 01:54:20 PM
haha everytime i see a reply to this thread i hurry over to see what this chump is up to now.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on June 22, 2005, 02:07:19 PM
Quote from: matt35mm
Quote from: Gamblor Posts DrunkNo, I think he's too dumb to know what loving the human race would be like. Mother Theresa, she probably did love the human race. Tom Cruise....not so much.
I don't think Tom Cruise is stupid.  He WANTS to love everybody and that's admirable.  He seems to be trying to just live life excitedly and all that.

He's comfortable in his own skin.  I'm still happy for him.  His behavior is only strange relative to everyone else in the world--but he's one of the few people who dares to just be himself and not give a damn what others think of him.  He's an individual, to be sure.  But nothing he's done suggests that he's stupid.

And he makes good points about things.  He goes too far in DEMONIZING psychology and prescription drugs, but certainly he makes some good points by suggesting that the human mind is strong enough on its own if people.

He's idealistic.  And I never thought there was anything wrong with being idealistic.  Just think of all the idealistic people from the past that people thought were crazies that are now respected.  I just think everybody's too quick to judge him.  He's DIFFERENT, no doubt.  MAYBE? that's a good thing.

I have to say, I get the same vibe from him these days that I get from porn stars that say they love getting it in the face.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on June 22, 2005, 02:52:06 PM
Cruise "Tried To Convert Johansson"

Scarlett Johansson pulled out of appearing in the second Mission: Impossible sequel after Tom Cruise tried to convert her to scientology, according to reports. Cruise, who produces the action adventures, met with Johansson ahead of casting for the upcoming Mission: Impossible 3 and took her to one of the controversial religion's headquarters, claims Radarmagazine.Com. A source tells the website, "After two hours of proselytizing, Cruise opened a door to reveal a second room full of upper-level Scientologists who had been waiting to dine with the pair, at which point the cool-headed ingénue politely excused herself." Officially Johansson quit the film because of scheduling conflicts after the film was delayed so Cruise could make War Of The Worlds.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on June 22, 2005, 04:35:47 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinCruise "Tried To Convert Johansson"

Scarlett Johansson pulled out of appearing in the second Mission: Impossible sequel after Tom Cruise tried to convert her to scientology, ...... "After two hours of proselytizing, .


hahaha...damn, my previous post is beginninnginng to be spot on!! :bravo:

by the way what does that word mean which i bolded?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: jtm on June 22, 2005, 04:53:31 PM
Quote from: NEON MERCURYby the way what does that word mean which i bolded?

i believe it means "to convert" but i could be wrong.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on June 22, 2005, 05:47:32 PM
Proselytizing- The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Myxo on June 22, 2005, 06:46:25 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinCruise "Tried To Convert Johansson"

Scarlett Johansson pulled out of appearing in the second Mission: Impossible sequel after Tom Cruise tried to convert her to scientology, according to reports. Cruise, who produces the action adventures, met with Johansson ahead of casting for the upcoming Mission: Impossible 3 and took her to one of the controversial religion's headquarters, claims Radarmagazine.Com. A source tells the website, "After two hours of proselytizing, Cruise opened a door to reveal a second room full of upper-level Scientologists who had been waiting to dine with the pair, at which point the cool-headed ingénue politely excused herself." Officially Johansson quit the film because of scheduling conflicts after the film was delayed so Cruise could make War Of The Worlds.

This sounds like a scene out of "Eyes Wide Shut."

Tom Cruise is officially experiencing a mid-life crisis. He's already dating a younger woman.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 22, 2005, 07:15:04 PM
Reasons why Tom is stupid:
-thinks scientology cured him of dyslexia
-demonizes psychiatry
-did anyone just read that Johansson story? if he's not stupid, he's an asshole.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on June 22, 2005, 07:42:00 PM
Wooow I'm starting to think he totally deserved that water squirt
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 23, 2005, 06:35:12 PM
Tom Cruise is scary!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 23, 2005, 07:45:40 PM
Its awsome how the guy is going from Hottest Man Alive to Biggest Hollywood Freak... thats not easy
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 23, 2005, 07:46:45 PM
Just ask Michael Jackson. Women would pass out at his feet in the 80s. From there, make whatever joke you'd like.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 23, 2005, 07:51:54 PM
Yeah I was gonna compare him to MJ... but the difference also is that MJ not only lost his mind... but he also became a freak with his operations and the way he started dressing and stuff

Tom Cruise still looks normal and probably anyone who doesnt pay attention to gossip and newspapers is still crazy about the guy... but he is nuts.

I just remembered the funnies thing on Conan last night. He was saying that there was some guy selling a piece of toast on eBay with Michael Jackson's face on it. The only piece of toast that was black went it went into the toaster, and came out white. I thought it was hilarious!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on June 24, 2005, 01:27:56 PM
Cruise Clashes With Lauer on 'Today' Show

Tom Cruise criticized NBC "Today" show host Matt Lauer on Friday when Lauer mentioned Cruise's earlier criticism of Brooke Shields for taking anti-depressants. Cruise told Lauer he didn't know what he was talking about. "You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do," Cruise said.

The interview became more heated when Lauer, who said he knew people who had been helped by the attention-deficit disorder drug Ritalin, asked Cruise about the effects of the drug.

"Matt, Matt, you don't even you're glib," Cruise responded. "You don't even know what Ritalin is. If you start talking about chemical imbalance, you have to evaluate and read the research papers on how they came up with these theories, Matt, OK. That's what I've done."

When asked if he could be with someone at this stage in his life who doesn't have an interest in the Church of Scientology girlfriend Katie Holmes has said she's embracing the religion Cruise told Lauer: "Scientology is something that you don't understand. It's like you could be a Christian and be a Scientologist."

"It is a religion. Because it's dealing with the spirit. You as a spiritual being. It gives you tools you can use to apply to your life."

Cruise, 42, and Holmes, 26, went public with their romance in April, smooching and posing for photographers in Rome. They recently became engaged.

Many have doubted the romance. The words "publicity stunt" have rained down on the couple like an alien invasion as Cruise has been busy promoting his new film, "War of the Worlds," directed by Steven Spielberg, which opens on June 29.

"You know what? There's always cynics. There always has been. There always will be," said Cruise, who hasn't been shy about displaying his affection for "Batman Begins" actress Holmes. "I have never worried ... about what other people think and what other people say."

"I have to tell you. It's just a great time in my life," Cruise said. "I'm really happy. And, you know, I'm engaged. I'm going to be married. I can't restrain myself."

The actor, whose marriages to Mimi Rogers and Nicole Kidman ended in divorce, declined to say what Holmes has brought to his life that wasn't there in the past.

"I don't want to compare things," Cruise said. "It's that thing where you just in life when it just happens. ... You meet someone. And it's I can't even describe it."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 24, 2005, 02:20:42 PM
I'm starting to like this new Cruise... he is out of his mind... I think they will stop inviting him to any shows cause he is insane

Or maybe they'll invite him even more cause people want to see what crazy shit he'll say next
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Find Your Magali on June 24, 2005, 04:11:49 PM
I was waiting for him to tell Matt Lauer: "I'm silently judging you."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Myxo on June 24, 2005, 04:13:01 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI was waiting for him to tell Matt Lauer: "I'm silently judging you."
haha.. awesome.. that made my day.. :)
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on June 24, 2005, 04:20:47 PM
same here
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Brazoliange on June 24, 2005, 04:24:00 PM
clearing MaxX Unlimited in DDR made my day already, sorry :(

is anyone else seeing this interview looking a LOT like an attack on Tom? those are pretty fuckin' nasty questions/accusations
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 25, 2005, 09:50:04 AM
Quote from: Myxomatosis
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI was waiting for him to tell Matt Lauer: "I'm silently judging you."
haha.. awesome.. that made my day.. :)
too bad it was misquoted.. and already been done.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Thrindle on June 25, 2005, 09:46:19 PM
Quote from: matt35mmHis behavior is only strange relative to everyone else in the world--but he's one of the few people who dares to just be himself and not give a damn what others think of him.  He's an individual, to be sure.
I've been working 60 hours a week (literally) so here's my late reply.

He stayed on top for so long because he had a carefully conformed image.  never kid yourself.  Doesn't care what other people think... righto buddy.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Brazoliange on June 25, 2005, 10:01:07 PM
LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Hollywood star Tom Cruise has decided to drop his complaints against four pranksters who squirted him with water at Sunday's British premiere of "War of The Worlds".

But Scotland Yard said Cruise's decision not to pursue the matter against the men who were filming a comedy sketch, did not necessarily mean they would not face assault charges.

"We will take into account the victim's views, but as of today the four men are still on police bail and are due to report back to police on July 4," a police spokesman said.

Cruise, 42, was on a red-carpet walkabout prior to the screening of the latest adaptation of the H.G. Wells classic in London's Leicester Square on Sunday when a bogus journalist stuck a joke microphone in front of him.

As Cruise started to talk, he was squirted with water from the microphone prompting the star to lose his cool.

"I'm here giving you an interview, answering your questions and you do something really nasty ... you're a jerk ... jerk ... you're a jerk," the actor told the prankster.

Cruise said it was "disgusting" that someone should act in such a way.

"I really work hard to make people feel good," he said as he toweled himself dry.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: matt35mm on June 25, 2005, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: Thrindle
Quote from: matt35mmHis behavior is only strange relative to everyone else in the world--but he's one of the few people who dares to just be himself and not give a damn what others think of him.  He's an individual, to be sure.
I've been working 60 hours a week (literally) so here's my late reply.

He stayed on top for so long because he had a carefully conformed image.  never kid yourself.  Doesn't care what other people think... righto buddy.
How could be possibly care what people think?  Have you SEEN his recent behavior?  He knows that most people would rather him tone it down, but he doesn't seem to care.  He's said he doesn't give a damn, and I think that's what his behavior shows.  Unless he wants to project the image of a man who doesn't give a damn... in which case I don't understand the motivation behind that, when it ultimately makes him less popular.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 25, 2005, 11:42:54 PM
Quote from: matt35mmHow could be possibly care what people think?  Have you SEEN his recent behavior?  He knows that most people would rather him tone it down, but he doesn't seem to care.  He's said he doesn't give a damn, and I think that's what his behavior shows.  Unless he wants to project the image of a man who doesn't give a damn... in which case I don't understand the motivation behind that, when it ultimately makes him less popular.
dude, ur giving him way too much credit.

it's one thing to be in love, say, when ur a teenager, where behaving like a crazy person (sporadically wrestling with oprah qualifies) is normal. but [to recap] the dude is 42, he's supposedly been 'in love' before, at least 3 times that we know of; has kept his cool for two decades, living a relatively private love life; and he DOES care what ppl think cos he's sued ppl for calling him gay. writing him off as "oh he's just in love" is being completely oblivious to the reality of the situation.

he thinks he's acting smooth. that's the disturbing part.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ultrahip on June 26, 2005, 12:19:27 PM
i happen to think that cruise has way too much confidence in the public he's worked so hard to please. he has controlled his image immaculately up until now and is aware of that, and i think he thought that after all the good will that he and others have been able to build up around his persona, he could get away with a bit of honesty, however out of the ordinary that honesty might be, and thanks to that he has been shown a much darker side of his loving public. he assumed they would be good and understanding, and was sorely mistaken.

after all this stuff dies down, he should get revenge on everyone by only appearing in PTA pictures.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 26, 2005, 09:56:33 PM
Full transcript of Lauer interview (http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3tc.htm)
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on June 27, 2005, 12:54:58 AM
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if somebody could photoshop a blade in cruise's right hand and change lauer's pen to one also.. they'd look like they're about to have a SWEET knife fight.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ghostboy on June 27, 2005, 01:27:41 AM
Fastest Photoshop reply ever:

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On a related subject: that transcript reads just like a few pages from a PTA script. The man sure knows how to write realistic flummoxed dialogue.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 27, 2005, 01:29:43 AM
I didn't know they fought greaser style. Weird.

That's too real, you need to make it more comedic, cause that is too real. Damn man, you are good at it.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on June 27, 2005, 01:32:13 AM
I WAS RIGHT AND THATS PERFECT.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 27, 2005, 10:57:07 AM
Wow. That's really beautiful.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Brazoliange on June 27, 2005, 08:56:37 PM
http://www.xenu.net/fairgame-e.html
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 27, 2005, 11:12:18 PM
Dane Cook impersonates Tom Cruise:
http://gorillamask.net/cookkimmel.shtml

Fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on June 27, 2005, 11:12:50 PM
Wouldn't it be great if all this stuff Tom Cruise has been doing lately is part of a big Andy Kaufman-esque joke on the public?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 27, 2005, 11:53:30 PM
He is getting so much attention for being stupid that its amazing... I cant believe he is really doing this... what an idiot

This guy was really the one that never got into this hollywood crazy shit... he did it but not publicly... now suddenly he is all over the place... and nobody promoting his new blockbuster but how stupid he is

It's sad... more everyday
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 28, 2005, 03:13:19 AM
the latest cruise clip, doin what he does best (http://www.goyk.com/video.asp?path=948). this dude just keeps on givin!

one more for the road (http://www.goyk.com/video.asp?path=947). especially now with all his shenanigans, he remains the most entertaining actor of his generation.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pas on June 28, 2005, 07:43:28 AM
Tom Cruise ... ^___^
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pwaybloe on June 28, 2005, 10:04:43 AM
That's it.  Tom's reversi.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on June 28, 2005, 01:41:56 PM
Quote from: Pubrickthe latest cruise clip, doin what he does best (http://www.goyk.com/video.asp?path=948). this dude just keeps on givin!

one more for the road (http://www.goyk.com/video.asp?path=947). especially now with all his shenanigans, he remains the most entertaining actor of his generation.

I didn't know Tom Cruise became Steve Ballmer...
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on June 28, 2005, 01:47:06 PM
now u do!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on June 28, 2005, 02:01:34 PM
Scientologists can morph.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pwaybloe on June 28, 2005, 02:54:13 PM
It's reversi!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 30, 2005, 01:16:54 AM
Cruise to Earth: We're not alone
By Anthony Breznican, USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2005-06-29-cruise-aliens_x.htm?POE=LIFISVA).
Tom Cruise says there may be life beyond the stars, but it's not here yet.

Reuters reported that the War of the Worlds star told the German tabloid Bild that he believes intelligent life might exist beyond Earth.

"Are you really so arrogant as to believe we are alone in this universe?" Cruise told Bild. "Millions of stars, and we're supposed to be the only living creatures? No, there are many things out there. We just don't know."

Cruise's publicist and sister, Lee Anne DeVette, confirmed that he made the remarks but said the belief has nothing to do with the Church of Scientology, which they both follow.

Some critics of the organization, which was founded by sci-fi writer L. Ron Hubbard, say the faith is based on a story about alien visitors to Earth.

DeVette says that's untrue. "I'm happy to tell you (Cruise's remark) has absolutely nothing to do with Scientology," she says. Cruise's comments just ask, "Who are we to think we're the only people, the only life forms that exist anywhere? He clearly said he has never seen aliens."

Steven Spielberg, who directed War of the Worlds, also has said he believes alien life exists somewhere, though if contact were ever made between the worlds, he believes the visitors would be friendly — unlike the aliens in his movie.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on June 30, 2005, 01:22:29 AM
im so happy the media is interviewing tom for these juicy stories. otherwise how else would i get my science news?!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sleuth on June 30, 2005, 01:29:00 AM
maybe by reading a science book :roll:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on June 30, 2005, 01:42:06 AM
NEWS sleuth.. this was reported YESTERDAY. wouldnt be in a BOOK yet!

sleuth  :roll:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on June 30, 2005, 08:33:39 AM
National Enquirer... or Weekly World News... they know whats going on with the aliens and stuff
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on June 30, 2005, 10:00:33 PM
I don't think that's weird. Alot of people believe in aliens. Sane people too. I don't know if Cruise thinks they're gonna pick him up though, cause they don't pick people like him up, they drop them off.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: picolas on June 30, 2005, 10:10:43 PM
i believe in aliens.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on June 30, 2005, 10:40:42 PM
i believe in everything. including aliens.

i don't think him believing in aliens is weird. i think the "ARE YOU REALLY SO ARROGANT" thing is a bit...odd.

however, in my opinion, cruise is forgiven for all recent weirdness=because of ray ferrier.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: meatball on June 30, 2005, 10:42:33 PM
Quote from: Pubrick
Quote from: matt35mm
Quote from: Thrindle
Quote from: matt35mmHis behavior is only strange relative to everyone else in the world--but he's one of the few people who dares to just be himself and not give a damn what others think of him.  He's an individual, to be sure.
I've been working 60 hours a week (literally) so here's my late reply.

He stayed on top for so long because he had a carefully conformed image.  never kid yourself.  Doesn't care what other people think... righto buddy.
How could be possibly care what people think?  Have you SEEN his recent behavior?  He knows that most people would rather him tone it down, but he doesn't seem to care.  He's said he doesn't give a damn, and I think that's what his behavior shows.  Unless he wants to project the image of a man who doesn't give a damn... in which case I don't understand the motivation behind that, when it ultimately makes him less popular.
dude, ur giving him way too much credit.

it's one thing to be in love, say, when ur a teenager, where behaving like a crazy person (sporadically wrestling with oprah qualifies) is normal. but [to recap] the dude is 42, he's supposedly been 'in love' before, at least 3 times that we know of; has kept his cool for two decades, living a relatively private love life; and he DOES care what ppl think cos he's sued ppl for calling him gay. writing him off as "oh he's just in love" is being completely oblivious to the reality of the situation.

he thinks he's acting smooth. that's the disturbing part.

Never thought I'd see Thrindle and Pubrick "owning" together.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on July 01, 2005, 08:06:45 AM
Shields Rips Cruise's 'Ridiculous Rant'

Brooke Shields took aim at Tom Cruise's "Today" show diatribe against antidepressants, saying the drugs helped her survive feelings of hopelessness after the birth of her first child. In an op-ed piece published Friday in The New York Times, Shields criticized what she called Cruise's "ridiculous rant."

Cruise had criticized the actress for taking the drugs, and became particularly passionate about the issue in an interview on "Today" last week.

"You don't know the history of psychiatry. I do," Cruise told Matt Lauer.

He went on to say there was no such thing as chemical imbalances that need to be corrected with drugs, and that depression could be treated with exercise and vitamins.

"I'm going to take a wild guess and say that Mr. Cruise has never suffered from postpartum depression," Shields wrote.

She added that Cruise's comments "are a disservice to mothers everywhere. To suggest that I was wrong to take drugs to deal with my depression, and that instead I should have taken vitamins and exercised shows an utter lack of understanding about postpartum depression and childbirth in general."

Shields said she considered swallowing a bottle of pills or jumping out the window at the lowest point of her depression following the birth of her daughter, Rowan Francis, in 2003. A doctor later attributed her feelings to a plunge in her estrogen and progesterone levels and prescribed the antidepressant Paxil.

"If any good can come of Mr. Cruise's ridiculous rant, let's hope that it gives much-needed attention to a serious disease," she wrote.

Shields described her post-childbirth experiences in the book "Down Came the Rain: My Journey Through Postpartum Depression."

Cruise is a follower of Scientology, a religion that teaches that psychiatry is a destructive pseudo-science.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on July 01, 2005, 12:49:59 PM
PWNED by Brooke Shields.  Ouch.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sigur Rós on July 01, 2005, 11:13:29 PM
If Tom Cruise was an animal he would be a goat!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on July 01, 2005, 11:20:39 PM
What? No he wouldn't.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on July 02, 2005, 12:00:37 AM
He'd be a liger
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on July 02, 2005, 11:03:44 AM
he'd be an ass
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sigur Rós on July 02, 2005, 03:20:46 PM
Quote from: StefenWhat? No he wouldn't.

Yes he would Stefen. Stefen is that like a Swedish name?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: mogwai on July 02, 2005, 04:11:43 PM
Quote from: Sigur
Quote from: StefenWhat? No he wouldn't.

Yes he would Stefen. Stefen is that like a Swedish name?
no, but stefan is. stefen kinda rhymes with chefen. svenska chefen.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on July 02, 2005, 05:33:05 PM
Stefen and Thor are the coolest names on the board. Everyone else has names like Jim, Rick, and Fran.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cron on July 02, 2005, 05:46:35 PM
can alexandro, fernando and i join you guys?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on July 02, 2005, 06:10:03 PM
YES. What do you bring to the table besides cool names? We need to have an identity.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cron on July 02, 2005, 06:23:27 PM
bandanas and mermaid tatoos.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on July 02, 2005, 06:27:42 PM
Muscle, good. Thor and I got the looks covered. But no more members. We need a name.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cron on July 02, 2005, 06:38:20 PM
los diablos guapos.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sigur Rós on July 02, 2005, 06:53:51 PM
Quote from: cronopiolos diablos guapos.

nein!!!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on July 02, 2005, 07:23:03 PM
you can be 'the mexicants'
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Stefen on July 02, 2005, 07:50:53 PM
Lets call ourselves The Stefens.   :yabbse-cool:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sigur Rós on July 02, 2005, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: StefenLets call ourselves The Stefens.   :yabbse-cool:

Oki I give in.


"Xixax is a religion. Because it's dealing with the spirit. You as a spiritual being. It gives you tools you can use to apply to your life." - Tom Cruise

I say we ban Tom Cruise from xixax.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Finn on July 08, 2005, 12:18:31 PM
I saw that website a few days ago. really funny but accurate stuff
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on August 01, 2005, 05:56:19 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050801/ap_en_mo/people_bacall_4

Bacall Rips Cruise's 'Vulgar' Behavior
Mon Aug 1,12:26 PM ET


Lauren Bacall has a few unkind words to say about Tom Cruise. In an interview in the Aug. 8 issue of Time magazine, now on newsstands, the 80-year-old actress says, "When you talk about a great actor, you're not talking about Tom Cruise."

"His whole behavior is so shocking," she says. "It's inappropriate and vulgar and absolutely unacceptable to use your private life to sell anything commercially, but I think it's kind of a sickness."

Bacall was alluding to Cruise's displays of emotion and public courting of Katie Holmes in the weeks leading up to the release of his new film, "War of the Worlds." Cruise and Holmes became engaged in June after he proposed at the Eiffel Tower in Paris.

Last fall, Bacall made similar remarks about Cruise's ex-wife Nicole Kidman, her co-star in "Birth." While promoting the movie, Bacall became irritated when an interviewer described Kidman as "a legend."

"She's not a legend," Bacall said. "She can't be a legend at whatever age she is. ... You have to be older."

"Private Screenings: Lauren Bacall" and a marathon of Bacall's films were to air Monday on TCM.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: hedwig on August 01, 2005, 05:59:39 PM
right on, sista

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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: ddbright on August 04, 2005, 05:25:23 PM
He fired his long time publicist and now has his sister doing it.  Obviously she doesn't know what she's doing because if she were smart she'd put a muzzle on that guy's mouth.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Myxo on August 04, 2005, 05:34:51 PM
He should fire himself.

How do you publicize a fucko?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on August 05, 2005, 12:40:24 AM
Quote from: ddbrightHe fired his long time publicist and now has his sister doing it.  Obviously she doesn't know what she's doing because if she were smart she'd put a muzzle on that guy's mouth.
hey, thanks for the old news!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on September 21, 2005, 01:37:53 PM
Spielberg no Cruise fan: After the mighty wave of Tomkat threatened to drown publicity for "War of the Worlds," you can hardly blame Steven Spielberg if he needs a little space from Tom Cruise. But there may be more to it than just the celebrity gossip angle. As the New York Post writes, "the director is still steamed at Cruise for ranting, during what were supposed to be promotional appearances for the Martian-invasion film, against the widespread use of Ritalin to treat unruly children diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder." Cruise has been down-talking a lot of drugs lately, from Ritalin to antidepressants. "Steven and his wife [Kate Capshaw] have five children themselves and know some children for whom Ritalin does a lot of good. They took exception to what Tom said about the drug." Another source tells the Post, "They will not be working together again and Steven will never call him his friend."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: mogwai on September 21, 2005, 02:08:17 PM
omg, yes!!! it's official, everyone hates tom cruise now. go steven!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on September 21, 2005, 04:00:36 PM
that actually sucks... two of the people i admire the most in this business... i hated war of the worlds but i was hoping to see them working together again
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on September 21, 2005, 05:48:06 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinSpielberg no Cruise fan: After the mighty wave of Tomkat threatened to drown publicity for "War of the Worlds," you can hardly blame Steven Spielberg if he needs a little space from Tom Cruise. But there may be more to it than just the celebrity gossip angle. As the New York Post writes, "the director is still steamed at Cruise for ranting, during what were supposed to be promotional appearances for the Martian-invasion film, against the widespread use of Ritalin to treat unruly children diagnosed with Attention Deficit Disorder." Cruise has been down-talking a lot of drugs lately, from Ritalin to antidepressants. "Steven and his wife [Kate Capshaw] have five children themselves and know some children for whom Ritalin does a lot of good. They took exception to what Tom said about the drug." Another source tells the Post, "They will not be working together again and Steven will never call him his friend."
that sounds like imdb gossip. who knows how reliable it is.  it seems pretty funny though if its true.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Sigur Rós on September 26, 2005, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin"They will not be working together again and Steven will never call him his friend."


Wauv, imagine being called friend by Steven Spielberg.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Alethia on September 26, 2005, 04:47:36 PM
imagine hearing spielberg say he will never call you friend!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on September 29, 2005, 12:20:31 AM
Internet Hoax Snares Cruise

Apparently, if you jump on a couch in a frenzied enough manner on national television, people will start to believe just about anything about you.

Tom Cruise was the victim of a recent Internet scam in the form of a fake press release posted on the British Website Pressbox.co.uk that claimed the actor would be giving a series of lectures on metal health issues.

The release, purportedly issued by the actor's lawyer, Bertram Fields, claimed that Cruise would be bellying up to a podium at Los Angeles' Scientology Celebrity Center to discuss topics such as "How Psychiatry Invented Schizophrenia, and What Scientologists Can Do About It" and "Handling Sexual Dis-Orientation: Out of the Closet and into the Auditing Room."

Cruise has been outspoken about his opinion of psychiatry in the past, calling it a "pseudoscience," criticizing Brooke Shields for her decision to use antidepressants following the birth of her daughter and engaging in a heated debate with Matt Lauer about the use of mind-altering drugs.

However, according to Fields, the release regarding the actor's planned lecture series was a hoax from beginning to end.

"It's totally phony. I never issued that release. Tom is not giving any lectures," the notoriously sue-happy lawyer told Radar Online.

Fields indicated he planned to pursue legal action against the masterminds behind the release.

"I'm going to look into it, because, in my view, it's forgery, wire fraud, and apparently committed on an interstate basis," Fields told Radar. "So if I can find out who did this, I certainly intend to pursue every remedy I can find."

The lawyer also indicated that he was surprised anyone had believed the release was real.

"It's way off base, and of course you could tell from looking at the names of the supposed lectures that it's nothing that comes from Tom. You know, " 'Out of the Closet and into the Auditing Room' is not something Tom is going to put as the name of a lecture," Fields said.

"He's not, in fact, giving any lectures. If he did I would sell tickets."

While Cruise may be through speaking out about his views on pseudoscience, er, psychiatry (at least for now), his ex-wife Nicole Kidman seems to be just getting started.

The actress portrays a psychiatrist in her upcoming film The Visiting and said that she has had no trouble preparing for the role.

"I have a father who is a psychologist, so my life has been research," the Oscar winner told the Associated Press.

Kidman went on to say that she considers psychiatry and psychology worthwhile professions that can help people.

"I think all sorts of things do [help], in terms of Buddhism, in terms of therapy," Kidman said. "I think people choose things that they need that are going to help them. And obviously, I've seen my father do some magnificent work."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ghostboy on October 03, 2005, 01:50:21 AM
If someone's already posted this (http://mirror.randomfoo.net/memes/2005/06/Tom_Cruise_Kills_Oprah.mov), I'm sorry for double dipping - but I'm sure you'll forgive me, because watching it again will only do you good.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on October 05, 2005, 05:01:13 PM
if this is a hoax, they're taking it pretty far!

Tom & Katie Expecting a Baby

Source: People Magazine / Wednesday Oct 05, 2005 3:30pm EST

Tom Cruise's fiancée, Katie Holmes, is pregnant with the couple's child, Cruise's spokesperson, Lee Anne DeVette, tells PEOPLE exclusively.

"Tom and Katie are very excited, and the entire family is very excited," says DeVette.

Cruise, who has two children, Connor, 10, and Isabella, 12, with ex-wife Nicole Kidman, began dating Holmes in mid-April. He proposed to her atop the Eiffel Tower in Paris in June. DeVette says there is no wedding date set.

DeVette would not comment on the baby's gender or say how far along the pregnancy is. The rep did say that Holmes, 26, "has never felt better."

Cruise, 43, is currently shooting Mission: Impossible 3 in Los Angeles.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: polkablues on October 05, 2005, 06:30:54 PM
Does Scientology have an equivalent to the Antichrist?

Just wondering.

No reason.


:yabbse-lipsrsealed:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on October 05, 2005, 06:36:37 PM
Its growing inside Katie Holmes.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on October 05, 2005, 10:04:06 PM
Quote from: polkabluesDoes Scientology have an equivalent to the Antichrist?
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Fernando on October 06, 2005, 10:29:49 AM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: cine on October 06, 2005, 10:53:37 AM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on October 06, 2005, 11:45:47 AM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: 72teeth on October 06, 2005, 12:31:36 PM
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sorry, what are the rules?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on October 06, 2005, 12:36:38 PM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on October 07, 2005, 09:44:46 PM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on October 08, 2005, 01:04:26 AM
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That's the cover to a really weird Harlequin romance novel.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Alethia on October 08, 2005, 09:19:36 AM
why the hell is ET like six feet tall in that picture?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: 72teeth on October 08, 2005, 09:22:25 AM
Actually, Spielberg is only 2'6" in that picture.....
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Weird. Oh on October 08, 2005, 08:39:44 PM
I guess Mr. Mapother finally tamed that pussy.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on October 11, 2005, 01:00:24 AM
Travolta and Preston Suggest a "Silent Birth" to Katie

Scientology couple John Travolta and Kelly Preston are urging Katie Holmes to have a 'silent birth' when she delivers fiance Tom Cruise's baby next year and follow the church's strict doctrines. Scientologists believe children should be brought into the world without any fuss and be allowed to quietly get used to their surroundings. That means no music, no chatting and no expressions of pain from the mother. Preston explains, "It's just because everything in moments of pain is really recorded and you want to have that (the birth) peaceful and clear of sort of suggestions or different words that can then affect them (babies) in their future."

Holmes Dumps Publicist for Cruise's Sister

Pregnant actress Katie Holmes has fired her publicist Leslie Sloane-Zelnick after nine years together, and has hired her fiance Tom Cruise's sister as her new spokesperson. The Batman Begins star and Cruise announced her pregnancy last week, which comes only six months after the couple began dating. Since Holmes began her controversial relationship with Cruise, she has parted ways with her management company, agents and now Sloane-Zelnick. Holmes will now be represented by Cruise's sister and fellow Scientologist Lee Anne DeVette, who became the actor's spokesperson last year after he left his longtime publicist Pat Kingsley. Sloane-Zelnick tells the New York Daily News, "We were with her for nine years. We wish her the best. She has chosen to work with her future sister-in-law. We wish her well, and congratulate her on her happy news."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Gamblour. on October 11, 2005, 09:09:28 AM
I hope, when he gets killed, his murderers make him die silently.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: polkablues on October 11, 2005, 03:20:14 PM
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"One of us! One of us! Gooble-gobble, gooble-gobble, one of us! One of us!"
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Thrindle on October 11, 2005, 03:33:44 PM
Quote from: GamblourI hope, when he gets killed, his murderers make him die silently.
Exactly.


I understand the concept of a quiet room, warm lighting, etc... I'm sure going from the womb to a room of fleurescent lighting and noise is hectic, but NO EXPRESSIONS OF PAIN?!  Fuck off.  Life is pain you assholes, teach 'em young.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: ono on October 11, 2005, 05:08:55 PM
Quote from: Free Form WeirdoI guess Mr. Mapother finally tamed that pussy.
Cunt.   :roll:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pas on October 11, 2005, 05:34:10 PM
Quote from: Thrindle
Exactly.


I understand the concept of a quiet room, warm lighting, etc... I'm sure going from the womb to a room of fleurescent lighting and noise is hectic, but NO EXPRESSIONS OF PAIN?!  Fuck off.  Life is pain you assholes, teach 'em young.

Exactly. I've been fighting this idea for years. It's a loving parent's duty to beat a little bit his children. Like not to much so he doesn't have visible bruises. You can use a phone book to cover the marks. Or beat him under the feet that's an old loving parent's trick. Life is pain you assholes, teach 'em young.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on November 07, 2005, 11:01:35 PM
Cruise Control Shifts Gears

Tom Cruise is "restructuring."

Hollywood's leading leading man has dumped sister Lee Anne De Vette as his publicist and enlisted power publicity firm Rogers & Cowan.

The moves come in the wake of Cruise's endless summer in which he talked up War of the Worlds, vitamins and exercise, and Katie Holmes--not necessarily in that order.

In the tradition of Hollywood divorces, the Rogers & Cowan-for-De Vette swap was announced on Friday. And in the tradition of press releases about Hollywood divorces, the statement accentuated the positive.

Technically, the release wasn't about De Vette's dumping. Rather, it was about her being tapped to "exclusively oversee the day to day operations of Tom Cruise's philanthropic activities."

Cruise, 43, praised De Vette for having done a "wonderful job" as his personal publicist. De Vette, for her part, was "thrilled" with her new duties. There was no mention of Cruise and De Vette choosing to remain friends, but it was understood they would remain siblings.

As part of Cruise's staff "restructuring," as the statement put it, Rogers & Cowan also will handle publicity for the star's production shingle, Cruise-Wagner Productions. The company's upcoming projects include Mission: Impossible 3, due out next summer.

Rogers & Cowan, PR home to stars such as John Travolta, said on Monday it was not representing Holmes. Cruise's with-child fiancée recently ditched her own longtime publicist, Leslie Sloane, for De Vette.

De Vette succeeded Pat Kingsley as Cruise's publicist last year. Under Kingsley, Cruise cemented his status as the world's top movie star. With De Vette, Cruise enjoyed his biggest box-office hit ever (War of the Worlds) and suffered his worst publicity ever.

A recent report by Genius Insight, a New York-based marketing and research firm, found that Cruise's likeability sunk among 13- to 49-year-olds as the actor jumped on Oprah Winfrey's couch to declare his love for Holmes, took Matt Lauer to task for being "glib," prescribed vitamins and exercise for Brooke Shields and other women coping with postpartum depression, and generally became an outspoken advocate for Scientology. Per the study, Cruise went from the 11th most liked celebrity in the spring, to the 197th most liked celebrity in the summer. Worse, he joined David Spade, Pauly Shore and Tom Green as one of the five most polarizing stars. (Ashton Kutcher rounded out the group.)

To Ann Gabriel, a public relations expert who testified at Michael Jackson's molestation trial about the PR debacle the singer faced in the wake of the 2003 Martin Bashir documentary, Living with Michael Jackson, Cruise's summer was a 15 on the PR Disaster Scale of 1-10, with 10 supposedly being the most disastrous. (On the stand, she said Jackson's Bashir problem rated a 25.)

"I think it was off the scale," Gabriel said of Cruise. "I think if he's truly happy with his life there were probably some ways he could have better chosen to portray his newfound happiness."

Gabriel, who briefly worked for Jackson in 2003, said Cruise and the pop star are similar in that both lost touch with the public.

"I'm sure Michael didn't perceive his actions would be scrutinized the way they were or possibly misinterpreted," Gabriel said. "And I don't believe Tom Cruise believed his comments about postpartum depression would be as scrutinized."

Cruise's publicity firm shakeup is a sign to Gabriel, for one, that "he understands that he may have overstepped some of those boundaries."

In short, maybe next time sit on the couch.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Fernando on November 23, 2005, 10:41:27 AM
Cruise receives Stanley Kubrick Excellence in Film Award from the British Academy of Film and Television Arts.

Paparazzi were swarming and helicopters hovering in anticipation. Imagine the disappointment as word spread that Hollywood's most openly adoring couple would not do the red carpet.
The media was left without a single shot when Tom and Katie snuck in the back entrance of the Beverly Hilton without a single liplock or gush about true love. A coincidence? Not by a long shot. Consider this the first evidence that all things Cruise are changing since the superstar replaced his sis, Lee Anne DeVette, as his PR adviser with the legendary Paul Bloch.

Tom was on hand to accept the Stanley Kubrick Excellence in Film Award from the British Academy of Film and Television Arts — an honor you don't take lightly. Press was not welcome inside the dinner — no TV cameras allowed — but of course, the Wolf wangled an invite to join Tom and Katie and about a thousand well-wishers. So you won't be seeing close-up details about TomKat's first public appearance since the PR switcheroo anywhere else.

Here's how it went down: Unlike past events, Tom and Katie stopped for only one photo op — and it was a private gesture of respect: backstage with fellow honoree Elizabeth Taylor, still confined to a wheelchair. Then a flurry of excitement as the pair walked to their table seated with Paula Wagner (Cruise's long-time filmmaking partner) and his long-time agent Rick Nicita. While he was always ready to flash that famous smile, the man was noticeably keeping his emotions more private in public.

Let's be clear, I know that my friend Paul Bloch — whose clients include majorly famous faces like Bruce Willis and David Beckham — didn't send Tom to obedience training. But I'm sure he was hired to restore luster to the star's image and downplay some embarrassing PDA. Could this mean a lower profile for Tom's commitment to Scientology? Who knows, but I'm betting you'll be seeing a lot less of Cruise in the public eye.

Bloch understands polite but firm control of the media for his famous clients. Magazines can't run pictures they don't have or play with quotes when there are none. The mystique that has surrounded Tom, his distance from personal revelations, is just what he needs to keep him on that pedestal as the biggest movie star in the world.

That's exactly what BAFTA was recognizing. Tom's speech was impressive — elegant and heartfelt: "I take this particular award with my eyes wide open to its responsibility." But the biggest surprise was that he didn't acknowledge Katie from the stage.

She looked proud anyway as her man got a standing ovation.


Link.
http://movies.go.com/jeannewolf?columnid=745006
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on November 23, 2005, 02:16:11 PM
Cruise Keeps Eye on Fetus

Tom Cruise has already claimed to know the history of psychiatry. Now he's working on getting acquainted with OB/GYN.
 
The couch-jumping thesp has acquired a sonogram machine with which to personally track the progress of the fetus currently incased in his fiancee Katie Holmes' womb.

Cruise revealed the purchase during an interview with Barbara Walters taped Oct. 30 for the veteran newswoman's upcoming special, Barbara Walters Presents: The 10 Most Fascinating People of 2005, scheduled to air Tuesday on ABC.

"I bought a sonogram machine," Cruise told Walters. "I am going to donate it to a hospital when we are done."

Somewhat startled, Walters replied, "Wait, you are going to do your own sonogram?"

"Yes," Cruise replied, chuckling.

Sonogram machines, which use ultrasound waves to monitor a baby's development, can cost anywhere from $15,000 to $200,000. No word on how much Cruise shelled out to purchase his own.

Cruise told Walters he did not yet know the sex of his first genetic offspring.

"Barbara, I would tell you," he said. "I would say, 'I know if it's a boy or a girl, and I'm not telling you.' "

"So what do you see?" Walters asked. "A little baby," the actor replied.

Fascinating, indeed.

The War of the Worlds star also told Walters that he and Holmes would wait to get married until after their child's birth, though it's unclear exactly when that blessed event may occur.

"We are going to get married next summer or early fall," he told Walters. "We don't have a date set yet."

The affianced duo recently departed for Shanghai, where they'll spend a couple of weeks while Cruise films scenes for Mission: Impossible 3.

According to the Shanghai Daily's Website, Cruise and Holmes have been taking in the local sights, including the Chenghuang Temple, a resort featuring old-style architecture, as well as dining heartily on Sichuan cuisine.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on November 23, 2005, 11:46:18 PM
new publicist not off to such a great start.  seems crazier than ever.  just look at that headline.  :doh:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on November 27, 2005, 09:03:37 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 07, 2005, 11:01:35 PM
Cruise Control Shifts Gears

Tom Cruise is "restructuring."

Quote from: MacGuffin on November 23, 2005, 02:16:11 PM
Cruise Keeps Eye on Fetus


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"just when i thought i was out, they pull me back in"
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on November 27, 2005, 09:43:23 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on November 23, 2005, 02:16:11 PM
Cruise Keeps Eye on Fetus

Anyone picturing Tom Cruise sticking his head in the womb and peeking around?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on March 23, 2006, 11:26:52 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/people_cruise

Tom Cruise Furniture-Hopping Once Again
2 hours, 48 minutes ago

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LOS ANGELES - When it comes to furniture and his love for Katie Holmes, Tom Cruise just can't help himself.

The megastar was the guest of honor at Yahoo's quarterly "Influential Speakers" event Tuesday at the company's headquarters in Sunnyvale, Calif., bantering with chief executive Terry Semel and answering questions from the crowd.

After an impromptu arm-wrestling match with Semel, Cruise jestingly recreated his "Oprah" sofa-hopping episode, this time on a chair, to trumpet his joy about his fiancee and their soon-to-arrive offspring. Then he brought the very pregnant Holmes onto the stage, where he beamed and patted her round belly.

And, yes, he then sealed the interlude with a kiss.

TV's "Inside Edition" broadcast the happy event Thursday night.




I imagine him saying, "Xenu would be pleased..."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 30, 2006, 12:30:54 AM
Holmes Gearing Up for Silent Birth?

Mom-to-be Katie Holmes is reportedly gearing up for the silent birth of her first child after Scientologists were spotted carrying signs into her home, reminding her to keep quiet during labor. The Batman Begins actress, 26, is awaiting the arrival of her baby with fiance Tom Cruise any day now at their Beverly Hills, California mansion. Since she began dating Cruise last April, Holmes has abandoned her Catholic beliefs to become a Scientologist like Cruise. Late Scientology creator L. Ron Hubbard urged mothers to keep as quiet as possible during labor so they do not traumatize the child. On Monday, huge placards saying, "Be silent and make all physical movements slow and understandable," were carried into the couple's home, to be displayed around the house to remind Holmes to deal with the extreme pain of childbirth quietly. Last year, Cruise attempted to appease outraged critics of the bizarre birthing method, insisting Holmes can make a little noise. He said, "There have been misinterpretations that the woman can't make any noise, and that's just not true. It's nutty. No, but just calm and quiet. I want Katie to be as comfortable as possible."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: ©brad on March 30, 2006, 03:12:45 PM
that poor kid.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on March 30, 2006, 09:52:33 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on March 30, 2006, 12:30:54 AM
Holmes Gearing Up for Silent Birth?

"Be silent and make all physical movements slow and understandable,"
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on March 31, 2006, 05:36:37 AM
Quote from: ©brad on March 30, 2006, 03:12:45 PM
that poor kid.
yeah, poor katie.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: mogwai on March 31, 2006, 06:44:42 AM
damn, you stole my joke! :yabbse-smiley:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 03, 2006, 05:36:42 PM
Cruise Plans to Marry Holmes This Summer

American actor Tom Cruise told Germany's leading tabloid in its Monday edition that he wanted to tie the knot this summer with fiancee Katie Holmes, after the birth of their baby and the upcoming release of his new film, "Mission Impossible III."

Cruise was in Germany to plug the film on the country's popular "Wetten Dass ..." ("I'll Bet ...") TV show. He said on the show Saturday that two pilots were at the ready to fly him home should Holmes go into labor.

"If Katie calls, I'm gone," Cruise said, insisting that he wanted to be present at the birth of their first child.

Cruise confirmed to Bild that he and Holmes planned to marry in the coming months.

"First the baby, then the film," he was quoted as saying. "Then, in summer, we want to get married. I won't let this woman get away."

Cruise is both starring in and co-producing the third installment in the "Mission Impossible" series, filmed in China and Italy. The film is due to be released on May 5, 2006.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: polkablues on April 03, 2006, 07:42:10 PM
Quote from: Tom Cruise
"I won't let this woman get away."

Just wanted to be the first to point out that little nugget.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on April 03, 2006, 08:43:19 PM
is there a woman on earth who would be turned on by his obsessiveness? or rather, what kind of woman would be turned on by his obsessiveness?

-a completely destitute one (which katie is probably not)
-an old decrepit spinster (graphically not)
-poor, poor katie

it goes counter to what i have always thought about broads.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 05, 2006, 04:41:34 PM
Tom Cruise Says His Father Was 'A Bully'

Tom Cruise says his father was abusive and that school, where he faced other bullies, was difficult, in an upcoming issue of Parade magazine.

"He was a bully and a coward," the 43-year-old actor says of his father, Thomas Cruise Mapother III. "He was the kind of person where, if something goes wrong, they kick you. It was a great lesson in my life how he'd lull you in, make you feel safe and then, bang!

"For me, it was like, `There's something wrong with this guy. Don't trust him. Be careful around him.' There's that anxiety."

Cruise has two children, Connor, 11, and Isabella, 13, from his marriage to Nicole Kidman, and his 27-year-old fiancee, Katie Holmes, is in the final stages of her pregnancy with the couple's first child.

The star of the upcoming film, "Mission: Impossible III," also says he was bullied regularly in the 15 different schools he attended in 12 years. (He graduated from Glen Ridge High School in Glen Ridge, N.J., in 1980.)

"So many times the big bully comes up, pushes me," he says. "Your heart's pounding, you sweat, and you feel like you're going to vomit. I'm not the biggest guy, I never liked hitting someone, but I know if I don't hit that guy hard he's going to pick on me all year.

"I go, `You better fight.' I just laid it down. I don't like bullies."

In 1974, when Cruise was 11, his parents divorced. Cruise's mother, Mary Lee, moved her family to Louisville, Ky., her hometown, the magazine says in its April 9 issue.

Ten years later, Cruise says he reunited with his father, who was "in the hospital dying of cancer, and he would only meet me on the basis that I didn't ask him anything about the past."

"When I saw him in pain, I thought, `Wow, what a lonely life,'" Cruise says. "He was in his late 40s. It was sad."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: godardian on April 05, 2006, 04:55:18 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on April 05, 2006, 04:41:34 PM


In 1974, when Cruise was 11, his parents divorced. Cruise's mother, Mary Lee, moved her family to Louisville, Ky., her hometown, the magazine says in its April 9 issue.

Ten years later, Cruise says he reunited with his father, who was "in the hospital dying of cancer, and he would only meet me on the basis that I didn't ask him anything about the past."

"When I saw him in pain, I thought, `Wow, what a lonely life,'" Cruise says. "He was in his late 40s. It was sad."

Wow. I'm sure I'm not the only one flashing on the Cruise/Robards deathbed scene in Magnolia right now.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 05, 2006, 05:35:34 PM
Quote from: godardian on April 05, 2006, 04:55:18 PMWow. I'm sure I'm not the only one flashing on the Cruise/Robards deathbed scene in Magnolia right now.

Which is funny because he acted very Frank Mackey when asked about this same thing on Inside The Actors Studio.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: ©brad on April 05, 2006, 05:50:48 PM
don't you guys remember? he told the story about how when he first read the script, he approached PTA and went "Come on man, did you know about this?"
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on April 05, 2006, 08:25:23 PM
thats really sad.  i feel bad for the cruise.  i hope mi:iii redeems him to the public but i have a feeling it wont.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on April 18, 2006, 07:33:56 PM
Cruise, Holmes Have Baby Girl Named Suri

LOS ANGELES - The Tomkitten has arrived. Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, the high-profile pair dubbed TomKat by the media, had a baby girl Tuesday, said Cruise spokesman Arnold Robinson. The baby, named Suri, weighed 7 pounds, 7 ounces and measured 20 inches long, he said.
 
"Both mother and daughter are doing well," Robinson said in a prepared statement.

The name Suri has its origins in Hebrew, meaning "princess," or in Persian, meaning "red rose," the statement said.

The baby was born in Los Angeles but the exact location was not disclosed.

It's the first child for Holmes, 27. Cruise, 43, has an adopted daughter and son from his marriage to Nicole Kidman.

Details surrounding the birth, which was planned under the tenets of the Church of Scientology as a silent procedure, weren't disclosed.

Outside the Beverly Hills home where Cruise and Holmes live, about a dozen reporters and photographers stood by. Security officers inside the compound videotaped the journalists.

A security guard at the gate — which was shrouded in black to prevent anyone from seeing in — refused to release any information. A few cars did arrive and were allowed into the estate. A police motorcycle officer stopped by around 4 p.m. and sat watching the goings-on.

The patrolman, who identified himself as Officer Chase, said he was just making a routine check, since activity around the area had been heightened for some time. He asked if the baby had been born, was told yes, and drove off.

It was just about a year ago that Cruise's romance with Holmes became a world sensation.

Cruise hopped up and down on a couch during an interview with Oprah Winfrey as he professed his love.

"I can't be cool. I can't be laid-back," Cruise declared at the time. "Something happened and I want to celebrate it."

The antics were widely mocked but Cruise was unfazed and continued to avow his affection for Holmes.

He and Holmes, a star of TV's "Dawson's Creek," had been first photographed together in Rome in April 2005.

She had previously been engaged to actor Chris Klein; Cruise had been married to Mimi Rogers as well as Kidman, and had dated Penelope Cruz for several years.

In June, Cruise announced to a Paris press conference that he had proposed to Holmes atop the Eiffel Tower.

"Today is a magnificent day for me, I'm engaged to a magnificent woman," he said.

No wedding date has been disclosed.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on April 18, 2006, 10:16:06 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin on April 18, 2006, 07:33:56 PM
"Both mother and daughter are doing well," Robinson said in a prepared statement.
notice, no mention of cruise.  cause he is doing CUCKOO!  :crazyeyes:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on May 10, 2006, 10:59:53 PM
Thats excellent... he doesnt give a crap about anything people say about him... he is still TOM FUCKING CRUISE!!!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Just Withnail on May 11, 2006, 07:57:58 AM
Quote from: kal on May 10, 2006, 10:59:53 PM
Thats excellent... he doesnt give a crap about anything people say about him

Are you kidding? Did you see the nervous look on his face? "Are they laughing with me or...? They´re laughing at me aren´t they? They´re laughing at me!"
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: modage on May 11, 2006, 08:25:26 AM
well, either way. he's still game to dance like an idiot and embarass himself after the worst press year of his life.  so  :bravo:
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 11, 2006, 08:56:06 AM
Quote from: kal on May 10, 2006, 10:59:53 PM
Thats excellent... he doesnt give a crap about anything people say about him... he is still TOM FUCKING CRUISE!!!

That couldn't be further from the truth.  The source of all of his weirdness is that he DOES care about what people think of him.  All this motorcycle-riding and couch jumping on Oprah and all that crap is because everyone thinks he's gay.  I'm not weighing in on that one because I don't really care.  But he's going out of his way to do a lot of decidedly non-gay things in the public eye.

But as for the video there... Tom Cruise is the ONLY white man who can dance like a white man trying to dance like a black person on BET and not get booed, laughed at, or shot.  And he knows it.  Because he is TOM FUCKING CRUISE!!!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Kal on May 11, 2006, 09:51:34 AM
Quote from: hacksparrow on May 11, 2006, 08:56:06 AM

But as for the video there... Tom Cruise is the ONLY white man who can dance like a white man trying to dance like a black person on BET and not get booed, laughed at, or shot.  And he knows it.  Because he is TOM FUCKING CRUISE!!!

Thats my point... he can be gay, crazy, weird, whatever the fuck you want... every person in this planet has seen a Tom Cruise film, and everybody who likes film really liked one of his many movies (either Rainman, Magnolia, Jerry Maguire, Minority Report, whatever you want). He is the most successful, richest movie star ever. WHAT THE FUCK CAN YOU SAY TO HIM?
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Fernando on May 11, 2006, 12:24:27 PM
Quote from: Lucid on May 10, 2006, 09:55:36 PM
Tom getting freaky-deaky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nncDobgC8c&search=Tom%20Cruise%20BET)

Wierd this link doesn't open in a new window.

As for Tom, he still rules everyone's asses.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on May 11, 2006, 12:29:46 PM
He may be Tom Cruise, but when all is said and done he still dances like a white guy.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on May 13, 2006, 12:33:02 PM
In public's eyes, Tom's less of a Top Gun 
By Susan Wloszczyna, USA TODAY

Ex-wife Nicole Kidman still loves him, or so she told the Ladies Home Journal.

But according to a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll over the weekend when Mission: Impossible III opened to $47.7 million, about $12 million less than expected, the public has lost its loving feeling for Tom Cruise.

When 1,013 adults were asked their opinion of Cruise, 35% were favorable and 51% unfavorable. Nearly a year ago, when War of the Worlds opened on July 4 weekend to $77 million, the rating was 58% favorable and 31% unfavorable. (Sampling error is plus or minus 3 percentage points.)

His popularity with women seems most affected: 56% were favorable in 2005, compared with only 35% now. No surprise to Fiona Sutton, 34, of Virginia Beach, who took Cruise's berating of Brooke Shields' treatment for postpartum depression to heart: "As a woman who has dealt with postpartum depression and has taken antidepressants in the past, I have no desire to line Mr. Cruise's pockets with any of my hard-earned cash."

Given that the new Mission received rave reviews and one of the widest openings ever in 4,054 theaters, many respondents point to Cruise's antics over the past year — his promotion of Scientology, the couch-bounce on Oprah — for the dip.

Says Bradley Jacobs, Us movie editor: "The mystique is gone. People take offense at his seeming arrogance. He is still the biggest star in the world, but it is different."

Other factors, such as the six-year lag between Mission: Impossible II and III and the latter's non-holiday opening, could have hurt ticket sales. But, says Dave Karger of Entertainment Weekly, whose current cover story asks whether Cruise is still worth his nine-figure payday, "A lot of people came up to me and said, 'I don't want to support this movie's first weekend.' They made a conscious choice to avoid it."

Except for buying a sonogram machine for at-home monitoring of his baby with fiancée Katie Holmes (leading to a California bill to ban such sales), Cruise's most notable antics were while stumping for War of the Worlds. Arnold Robinson, his publicist, blames the media for the lower poll results.

"The only thing new in his life is this movie and his baby with a woman he loves," he says. "The public has been besieged with these images. Whose fault is that? Tom hasn't done anything."

If Cruise wants to do some damage control, Karger says, "he should focus on his family and disappear a little bit."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: xerxes on May 13, 2006, 01:43:06 PM
courtesy of overheard in new york.

Teen girl: Hey, I'm a Scientologist.
Tom Cruise: Oh, really? What echelon are you in?
Teen girl: [awkwardly quiet] Uh... number three?
Tom Cruise: Exactly.

--Mission: Impossible III gala premiere, TriBeCa Film Festival, BMCC
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on July 20, 2006, 10:14:57 PM
Suri Cruise Spotted in Telluride
Meanwhile, Tom tries to patch things up with Steven Spielberg.
By Kim Masters, Slate

Let's get this out of the way right now: Much as we hate even to touch on this question, there are in fact people who have seen baby Suri. Among them: producers Frank Marshall and Kathy Kennedy (they're married; she produced War of the Worlds). They saw the baby in Telluride, Colo., very recently and told friends that all seemed quite ordinary.

But we're not here to talk about baby Suri, though she does make a cameo appearance below. The question at hand is the relationship between the director of War of the Worlds (that would be Steven Spielberg) and the baby's daddy (that would be Tom Cruise).

As many folks in Hollywood and elsewhere know, there was a rift between Spielberg and Cruise that arose last year during and after their collaboration on War of the Worlds. This was in part because Spielberg felt that Cruise's off-camera antics dinged the film's grosses. And there was another issue, as reported this week in The New Yorker and previously elsewhere. It seems that after Spielberg (in a conversation with Cruise present) praised a psychiatrist who had helped a family member, representatives from the psychiatrist-loathing Church of Scientology staged a protest at the doctor's office.

Although Cruise was said to have assured Spielberg that he was not behind this incident, it infuriated the director and (perhaps more important) Kate Capshaw, also known as Mrs. Spielberg. For a time, it seems, the Spielbergs waited in vain for the star to explain how, exactly, those protesters happened to appear at the doctor's office.

All this may have more than mere gossip value with the prospects for Cruise's production deal at Paramount looking grim. After the middling performance of Mission: Impossible 3, there is a perception that Paramount may not be keen to ante up millions of dollars in overhead to keep Cruise on the lot. (M:I3 director JJ Abrams just made a rich deal at Paramount, diminishing the likelihood that the studio will shell out for the star.) Spielberg's company, DreamWorks, is now owned by Paramount, and there is a perception that the DreamWorkers might not be avid supporters of a Cruise deal.

Against this background, Cruise might well want to patch things up with the most powerful player in Hollywood. About a month ago, the gimlet-eyed folks at Defamer.com posted an item saying that Cruise had appeared at Spielberg's office with the baby for a photo session with the director. Then, last weekend, Cruise "surprised" Spielberg during a tribute at the Chicago International Film Festival. Cruise's appearance was such a well-kept secret that no one in Spielberg's camp knew about it, according to Spielberg spokesman Marvin Levy.

In fact, Cruise had already shown up in a taped tribute, along with Harrison Ford and other Spielberg alumni and associates, such as David Geffen and Jeffrey Katzenberg. The only other talent actually present for the event was Roy Scheider. Cinematographer Janusz Kaminski was booked to appear but canceled. Cruise filled the void.

Perhaps the organizers of the Chicago event didn't know about a rift between Spielberg and Cruise. Or maybe they simply couldn't resist having a giant star turn up. Certainly Spielberg seems to have been surprised. A few in the industry think that photos of the occasion reveal something less than unalloyed joy on his face.

Not so, says Levy. Spielberg thought the Chicago Film Festival tribute was the best ever, other than the one hosted by the American Film Institute. And Spielberg was "excited" that Cruise showed up, Levy says, adding, "I would dispute that the photos made him look uncomfortable."

But would Spielberg be happy to see Cruise if there is a rift? "I don't know that one necessarily is exclusive of the other," says Levy.

Maybe a Cruise and Spielberg rapprochement had already gotten under way, if Spielberg had previously posed for pictures with father and child. Do such pictures exist? Levy says that question will not be answered.

Those who know Spielberg well say he's nonconfrontational and he's not one to carry a grudge for all that long. But the wife might be another matter. So, the real story behind the Chicago surprise, as well as the mystery about those pictures with the sought-after infant, may have more to do with the politics of the hearth than the politics of Hollywood.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on August 22, 2006, 07:23:37 PM
Paramount cuts ties with Tom Cruise
Film distribution giant ends 14-year relationship with actor's production company because of Cruise's recent erratic behavior, says a report.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Paramount Pictures will end its longstanding relationship with Cruise/Wagner Productions, actor Tom Cruise's production company, citing his erratic behavior, according to a report published Tuesday.

Sumner Redstone, CEO of Paramount owner Viacom (Charts), said in an interview with The Wall Street Journal that Cruise's controversial behavior over the last year - including advocating for Scientology and denouncing the use of antidepressant drugs - was the cause for the move.

Cruise has been battling image problems in Hollywood.

The movie company is concerned that Cruise's behavior hurt his most recent film, "Mission: Impossible 3," said the report.

But Paula Wagner, Cruise's partner, disputed Redstone's assertions, according to the report. She told the paper that Cruise/Wagner Productions had decided to set up its own independent operation, backed by two unnamed hedge funds. She also noted in her comments to the Journal that Cruise had made Paramount vast sums of money over the years.

Cruise has worked with Paramount on hit films such as "Mission: Impossible," "Top Gun" and "Days of Thunder."

Cruise has starred in 24 movies with an average gross of $99.9 million, according to The-movie-times.com, an online Hollywood database.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on August 23, 2006, 10:57:14 AM
It's a war of the words
Redstone, Cruise dispute reasons for pact's termination
Source: Variety

The 14-year Tom Cruise-Paramount relationship has ended on a note of anger and outrage.

Cruise and production partner Paula Wagner said they have raised a revolving fund of $100 million from two hedge funds and are striking out on their own -- including setting their next project at another studio.

Wagner denounced comments made by Sumner Redstone about Cruise as "outrageous and disrespectful." Redstone told the Wall Street Journal on Tuesday that Par was ending its relationship with Cruise because "his recent conduct has not been acceptable."

In fact, Wagner said that CAA, Cruise's agency, terminated discussions with Par earlier in the week. After Cruise/Wagner made 14 films in 14 years (not all Par releases), the studio had declined to renew the original Cruise deal and offered a sharply reduced pact.

Cruise has been a tabloid regular over the past year due to his relationship with actress Katie Holmes, their daughter, his outspoken views on psychiatry and medication, and his increasingly outspoken advocacy for the Church of Scientology.

Wagner defended Cruise/Wagner's longtime success for the studio, saying that the shingle's product has accounted for 15% of Par's theatrical revenue in the last 10 years and 32% for the past six years. Their credits include the "Mission: Impossible" franchise, "Vanilla Sky" and "War of the Worlds."

The C/W shingle also produced "Elizabethtown," "Ask the Dust" and "Suspect Zero."

"Worlds" grossed $591 million worldwide, while "MI3" recently took in $393 million.

Studio insiders have long been aware of Redstone's attitude that $10 million in overhead isn't worth it especially given Cruise's behavior.

In making his critical remarks about Cruise, Redstone has triggered an angry confrontation with one of Hollywood's most important superstars and his power broker, CAA.

Rick Nicita (who is married to Wagner) and Kevin Huvane, the two agents who rep Cruise, denounced Redstone's remarks as "shockingly offensive and graceless."

In addition to finalizing the $100 million revolving fund, the reps at CAA are about to close on a C/W overhead deal with another entity but not a distributor, they said. Further, Cruise has decided on his next film as an actor and negotiations are commencing at another studio.

Insiders reacted sharply to the Redstone-Cruise imbroglio, suggesting that it points up the mixed messages that the studio has been sending. "When you talk to Paramount, which voice will respond to you?" asked one top agent.

Par is a much different studio than the one where C/W set up shop in the early '90s. Jonathan Dolgen and Sherry Lansing guided the studio at the time when Cruise/Wagner rose to become the marquee shingle on Melrose Avenue.

But over the past two years, the studio saw a massive overhaul following the exits of Dolgen and Lansing, followed by the installation of chairman Brad Grey.

Grey reworked the executive ranks and its supplier chain with the acquisition of DreamWorks and several new producer deals -- including another star pact with Brad Pitt and his Plan B shingle and, more recently, a lucrative pact for Cruise's "MI3" helmer J.J. Abrams.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Alexandro on August 24, 2006, 07:19:09 PM
Hatfields vs. McCoys

I spoke last night with someone we'll call Talent Guy, who just got back to town from a vacation and who spent most of yesterday soaking up the whole brouhaha about the way Viacom chief Sumner Redstone cut Paramount's ties with Tom Cruise. And he had some pretty bold things to say.

I'm not saying his thoughts are the sum total of mystical godly wisdom out there, but I know his views reflect what a lot of big-time talent types are saying amongst themselves.

Before I get into Talent Guy's words, bear with me for the last next six graphs. For others who are only just now getting up to speed, the 82 year-old Redstone blew a lot of minds Tuesday by telling the Wall Street Journal that Paramount was ending its 14-year relationship with Cruise's C/W Prods. because of the actor's "off-screen behavior", which "was unacceptable to the company."

As I wrote that day, it's astonishing that Redstone would say this because it wasn't really necessary to spell things out. The usual Hollywood routine in explaining a parting of the ways (creative or otherwise) is to use polite respectful terms, which Redstone obviously decided against.

In a New York Times story out today, various industry insiders were described as being "flabbergasted" at the manner in which Redstone lowered the boom.

Some have said why axe Cruise and his partner, Paula Wagner, for Cruise's eccentric behavior now when the really loopy stuff (apart from the ongoing tabloid perception that Cruise is a manic control freak keeping Katie Holmes and daughter Suri under lock and key) happened in the summer of '05?

Wagner put it to the Times that Redstone's diss had put Paramount chairman Brad Grey and Viacom CEO Tom Freston in a "lose-lose" situation.

"If you didn't know anything about this [statement in advance], how effective are you at running a studio?" Wagner said of the two executives. "Would anyone want to work with management that's ineffectual? And if you're complicit in it, would anyone work with a studio that devours its own?"

Talent Guy thinks that Redstone is getting old and stepped into this controversy partly because of the malady that 83 year-old guys all over tend to suffer from, which is that they can be blunt and cranky and intemperate. (My father isn't far from this age, and he's much snippier and ruder than he used to be.)

And yet, Talent Guys says, that doesn't mean Redstone isn't expressing what a lot of suits are thinking these days, which is "let's make the big-dollar talent guys sweat -- they're still one of the biggest reason movies cost so much, they don't necessarily justify the investment, they make too much back-end, they've overplayed their hand and it's time for those of a strong corporate disposition to step up and swat 'em down and herd them back into the corral where they can be restrained and made to see reason."

As one insider "suit" puts it, "Studios are making very little money on the big movies because talent deals are taking up too much of the back end. Gross players have to be trimmed down. Tom Cruise is the only one who made money on M:I:3, Peter Jackson is the only one who made out like a bandit on King Kong and Bryan Singer is the only one who came away rich, clean and cash-flush on Superman Returns. Back-end deals of this sort are fiscally imprudent and stupid in this environment."

And yet Talent Guy, who knows a lot of others in his realm (A's, B-plusses, B's), says that the A-list people in Hollywood feel that "the suits have overplayed their hand, they've overbuilt their companies, staffed them with too many executives whose salaries are too high, and they need to be swatted down. They've turned this industry into a monopoly. They're all in collusion and getting together and flattening it all down.

"This is the start of a whole Hatfield vs. McCoy war," Talent Guys says. "Suits vs. top- and mid-level talent. There's a lot of whispering and mumbling and grumbling at parties all over town, and I'm telling you it's about much, much more than 'is Tom Cruise a nutbag?' or 'is Sumner Redstone a nutbag?' It's really a fight for the soul and the future of this business.

"First off, let me tell you without a doubt that Will Smith, Tom Hanks, Adam Sandler, Jim Carrey, Ben Stiller, Cameron Crowe, Robert Zemeckis and a lot of other guys are close, close friends of Tom Cruise's and they love him... they've all seen his baby, they all know he's really in love, they all know it's a crock of bullshit...they all know he shouldn't have laid into Brooke Shields but guess what? So does Tom...he's apologized for what he said.

"And I'm telling you that these people I've just named -- the ten or twelve really big talents in this town that the studios need to worry about and keep happy -- are not happy about how this went down, and they're not happy about the Bigger Picture.

"From the talent side of view, we didn't turn all these studios into these massive corporate conglomerates," Talent Guy argues. "We didn't make it a business in which it takes 200 executives to make 20 movies a year...they're the ones who've created a business in which the cost of making movies is so expensive that there's only a 5 to 7% return during a good time...if there was a purity to this business with the DVD money and foreign sales, this would be a huge cash business.
"The A-level talent guys in this town aren't interested in playing this war out in the press, but the suits have decided that the way to beat these people down is through the press...but I'm telling you, we feel strongly about this. The suits have fucked this business up, not us. Quit laying the blame on movie stars. Don't say it like that, don't sell it like that.

"This Tom Cruise-Sumner Redstone thing is like a 9/11 flashpoint almost...maybe it's more like the bombing of the Marine barracks but it's one of those flare-ups that has a lot of people talking and getting mad. And it's going to kick off a long war that's going to play out over the next 10 to 15 years. And I promise you that in the end the studios as we know them now are going to crumble."

Talent Guy and his brethren basically foresee a world in which it'll eventually cost less to make and market movies, with a lot of the studio deadweight being jettisoned. They see a world with high-speed internet delivery of movies and direct-to-viewer marketing in which movies can be made and sold more efficiently than they are now, and in which they'll own significant percentages of these films and therefore won't need to demand huge upfront fees.

A world, in short, with the big machinery of developing and selling movies by studio executives sharply reduced in its size, impact and importance. Because they always push for the wrong kind of movies and they're deadweight functionaries in many respects. And because studio accountants are liars.

If the studios had been honest about their share of the profits, you never would have talent costing what they cost," he says. "But they lie so much and apply humungous fees and pay for their massive buildings and parking structures and charge ridiculous sums back to their own budgets for things they already own and are already getting incomes from...it's ridiculous.

"And the bottom line is that eventually the studios won't be able to afford their huge infrastructure, and they'll start downsizing themselves and laying more and more people off, and they'll become smaller and smaller distribution companies and releasing only their big tentpole movies. We don't need all these executives...we really don't.

"But the suits need the big stars and the big writer-directors much more than they think they do. Right now they don't think they need them....they don't have any respect for talent because of who they are, because they see movies as more of an animated CG music-video form with stars and directors and writers brought into the mix, at best, as seasoning.

"We didn't bring on this culture of marketing running everything, and the movies talking down to audiences...of bringing the whole movie culture down to the interest levels of a typical 17 year-old high school boy or girl...or placing so much empha- sis on visual pizazz and special effects in movies and the letting the concept of marketing budgets hitting $40 or $50 or $60 million dollars become the norm...we didn't do any of this, they did.

"I can see what people are talking about when they say some big movie stars make too much money, but they're just getting what they feel is a fair and justified cut of a pie that's been growing by leaps and bounds over the last 10 or 15 years.

"The far more pernicious element to me is the way the synthetic, quarter-of-an- inch-deep hugeness of movies today -- their manic, pogo-stick, look-at-our- latest-cheap-trick mentality, the hyper-glossy aspect of everything they put out today -- has become a kind of monster...a world in which guys like Peter Jackson and McG and Michael Bay and Brett Ratner are kings.

"Not altogether, thank fortune -- not with guys like Chris Nolan and Alexander Payne and Steven Soderbergh and even Sofia Coppola and movies like Little Miss Sunshine...there are heart movies, personal movies out there, but the good things have happened and prospered in this town in spite of what the suits have been doing for years, which is playing it safe and low and shallow and trying to turn the whole magic-of-movies alchemy into something synthetic and shit-level and poisoned with CG."

As for the problem of Sumner Redstone himself, Talent Guy thinks the only way for Paramount to restore itself in the eyes of the community is to gradually put him out to pasture.

First, put the word out now among agents and producers that, privately, Grey and Freston think Redstone has started to lose his bearings, and that they're going to start making moves to take him out of the loop. And then wait four to six months and quietly announce that Redstone is going to devote himself to some new charitable foundation while lessening his day-to-day duties as Viacom chief.

Of course, Talent Guy is leaping aboard the sentiment bandwagon voiced by guys like CAA agent Richard Lovett telling the N.Y. Times that "Paramount has no credibility right now...it is not clear who is running the studio and who is making the decisions." And Cruise's lawyer Bert Fields calling Redstone's comments "disgusting" and suggested that "he's lost it completely, or he's been given breathtakingly bad advice."

For what it's worth, my insider "suit" feels that Redstone said it plain and straight. He feels that Cruise has melted down and is damaged goods, and that Steven Spielberg, for one, doesn't see Cruise in warm friendly terms. "He thinks Cruise is eccentric and borderline irrational," he says. "Spielberg always reacts to the bottom line, to the greed factor...and he thought he was robbed of millions and millions of dollars when War of the Worlds underperformed...he knows Cruise cost him a lot of money going public on Scientology the way he did."

(Talent Guy says he knows that Spielberg takes money very seriously, but says his years-long friendship with Cruise is alive and well and undiminished.)

This source also says that Wagner has been talking to other studios for a while now about taking C/W Prods. to one of their lots for a housekeeping deal and "nobody bit. If anyone was interested somebody would have stepped up to the plate by now. Everybody knows C/W Prods. is looking and available, and if there had been a clamor, somebody would have stepped up. And in this climate, they haven't. And that's the bottom line."

Jeffrey Welles
www.hollywood-elsewhere.com

Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on August 24, 2006, 08:37:35 PM
Quote from: Alexandro on August 24, 2006, 07:19:09 PM
a world in which guys like Peter Jackson and McG and Michael Bay and Brett Ratner are kings.
geez, take it easy on PJ will you, Talent Guy? that statement says a lot about this Talent Guy's perception, i guess the bottom line for him is money too, since that's all he knows about PJ. other than that, good gossip! i can't wait to bring it up at my sewing circle jerk.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ultrahip on August 25, 2006, 05:50:22 PM
Isn't "Sumner Redstone" a great name? It's like Chest or Brock.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on August 26, 2006, 01:06:17 AM
Quote from: Ultrahip on August 25, 2006, 05:50:22 PM
Isn't "Sumner Redstone" a great name? It's like Chest or Brock.

At first I read it as "Summer" and I thought that he was a teenage girl.




http://news.yahoo.com/s/eo/20060825/en_celeb_eo/19847

Cruise Not a Popularity Contest Winner
By Sarah Hall Fri Aug 25, 3:48 PM ET

It seems Sumner Redstone is not alone in his distaste for Tom Cruise's couch-jumping conduct.

On the heels of Paramount Pictures' decision not to renew Cruise's production deal comes word that the Mission: Impossible star's popularity ratings are down. Way down.

According to Marketing Evaluations Incorporated, the company that calculates the Q scores which measure a given celebrity's likeability factor, the public's positive perception of Cruise has fallen by 40 percent, while the negative perception of the actor has jumped a whopping 100 percent.

How did this happen? Let's revisit some of Cruise's most memorable moments over the last year and a half.

# The birth of TomKat, April 2005: Cruise jets to Italy to pick up a lifetime achievement award; much to the world's collective confusion,
Katie Holmes accompanies him and the two engage in plenty of public canoodling.

# The passion of TomKat, May 2005: Cruise uses
Oprah Winfrey's couch as a platform from which to trumpet his love for Holmes.

# The wrath of TomKat, May 2005: Cruise criticizes
Brooke Shields for her "irresponsible" use of antidepressants to treat her postpartum depression.

# The wrath of TomKat, part 2, June 2005: Cruise calls Matt Lauer "glib" for suggesting that drugs such as Paxil and
Ritalin might be beneficial in some cases, and calls the TV host out on his lack of knowledge about psychiatry, a subject in which Cruise claims to be well-versed.

# The engagement of TomKat, June 2005: Cruise jets to Paris with Holmes in tow; they scale the Eiffel Tower, where he pops the question; Cruise then announces momentous event at press conference.

# The aftermath of the wrath of TomKat, July 2005: Shields rebuts Cruise's remarks by penning an op-ed in the New York Times slamming his "ridiculous rant" against psychiatry.

# The reproduction of TomKat, October 2005: The betrothed couple announce that they have conceived an offspring.

# The OB/GYN skills of TomKat, November 2005: Cruise tells Barbara Walters he has purchased a sonogram machine to perform at-home ultrasounds on Holmes. The American College of Radiology objects and a California lawmaker is inspired to author a bill banning the use of such machines by anyone except trained professionals.

# The birth of TomKitten, April 2006: Cruise and Holmes announce the birth of their daughter, Suri, whose name supposedly means "princess" in Hebrew and "red rose" in Persian. Not to mention "pickpocket" in Japanese.

# The box-office effect of TomKat, May 2006: Mission: Impossible III opens below industry expectations, though still going on to gross a respectable $393 million worldwide.

# The power of TomKat, June 2006: Forbes magazine touts Cruise as the world's most powerful famous person.

# The privacy of TomKat, July 2006: Some four months after her birth, Suri has yet to make her public debut, though an elite few can claim to have laid eyes on her.

# The downsizing of TomKat, August 2006: Paramount Pictures decides not to renew its production deal with Cruise and producing partner Paula Wagner. Viacom head honcho Sumner Redstone tells the Wall Street Journal that Cruise's "recent conduct has not been acceptable to Paramount."

So, what's not to like? Nothing, according to Cruise's attorney, Bert Fields.

"What was his personal conduct?" Fields asked in an interview with the New York Post. "Jumping on a couch on Oprah Winfrey because he's in love with Katie Holmes? That really deserves the death penalty?

"Or speaking out against mood-altering drugs for children? That's a real reason for the [Viacom] shareholders to be deprived of billions of dollars?"

Perhaps not, but it does provide insight into how Cruise could have become less appealing in the eyes of the general public.

Meanwhile, Wagner has also spoken out in defense of her business crony (whom she likes, anyway), calling Redstone's remarks "graceless," "undignified," and "not businesslike."

"I ask, what is his real agenda? What is he trying to do? Is this how you treat artists?" Wagner raged to the Los Angeles Times. "If I were another actor or filmmaker, would I work at a studio that takes one of their greatest assets and publicly does this?"

Cruise has yet to speak up on his own behalf. However, Wagner stated that the producing partners would be just fine without Paramount and had already secured $100 million in independent financing from two hedge funds.

Even so, the question remains of what will happen to the projects Cruise/Wagner Productions had already developed for Paramount.

The producing partners had stockpiled a number of scripts for the studio, many as potential starring vehicles for Cruise. Negotiations over the projects could get tricky, given Paramount's relatively new conditions for pictures put into turn-around, including the requirement that the studio be fully reimbursed and receive coproduction rights.

According to Daily Variety, some of the most promising projects brought to Paramount by C/W include One Shot, a mystery about a homicide investigator; The War Magician, a true-life drama about a British magician who used illusions to mystify the Germans and protect British troops in North Africa; and The Few, a drama about American fighter pilots who fought for the British in World War II.

"We have not discussed what will happen with the projects," a C/W spokesperson told Daily Variety. "They all have separate contracts and agreements, and I'm sure they will be honored."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Chest Rockwell on August 26, 2006, 04:19:24 PM
Spielberg "Stunned" by Paramount's Cruise Decision

Hollywood filmmaker Steven Spielberg insists he had no prior knowledge of Paramount's decision to end their partnership with Tom Cruise, declaring he was stunned by the news. Spielberg's Dreamworks company is owned by Paramount Pictures and has directed Cruise in Minority Report and War of the Worlds. Spielberg also owns the talent firm Creative Artists Agency (CAA), which represents Cruise. When Sumner Redstone, the chairman of Viacom - Paramount's parent company - announced the studios would not be renewing Cruise's 14-year production deal due to his "recent conduct," internet gossips claimed Spielberg was aware of the decision. However, his spokesman Marvin Levy tells the New York Daily News, "Steven had no advance knowledge of Sumner Redstone's position. The story broke when Steven was on an airplane. He found out when the plane landed." Spielberg's producing partner Kathleen Kennedy has lashed out at reports the director was unhappy with Cruise's behaviour during the War Of The Worlds publicity campaign last year, when he indulged in public displays of affection with fiancee Katie Holmes on red carpets all over the world. Kennedy says, "It's not true. Tom was a consummate professional. He's done nothing wrong."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: pete on August 27, 2006, 09:27:29 PM
wow, entourage is so much boringer in real life.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on August 29, 2006, 01:29:41 AM
Mission accomplished: Cruise finds movie money

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Turns out finding money to make movies was an easy mission for Tom Cruise.

Only days after the "Mission: Impossible" movie star effectively was fired by Paramount Pictures, Cruise, his film partner Paula Wagner and an investment fund run by professional football team owner Daniel Snyder agreed on Monday to a financing package that puts Cruise back in business.

"This offers us the opportunity to work with all studios and continue doing what we were doing, but in more enhanced ways," Wagner told Reuters.

First and Goal LLC, an investment fund run by Washington Redskins owner Snyder and partners Dwight Shar and Mark Shapiro, will cover overhead and development costs for Cruise/Wagner Productions for two years with an option to renew afterward.

Financial details were undisclosed, and Wagner and others involved in the deal all declined to talk about financing.

"This is not a deal about money as much as it is about access and about our futures," Wagner said.

Wagner said Snyder and his partners gave her and Cruise an entry into arenas where previously it had none, as well as the freedom to continue making both low-budget and big-budget movies outside Hollywood's major studio system.

Shar is the chairman of U.S. homebuilder NVR Inc, and Shapiro is the chief executive officer of Six Flags Inc. He was recruited to turn around the ailing theme park company by Snyder, Six Flags' chairman.

Last week Sumner Redstone, chairman of Paramount's parent company Viacom Inc, said the studio would not renew Cruise/Wagner's production deal when it expired this month.

Redstone said Cruise's "recent conduct has not been acceptable." Wagner called Redstone's comments "undignified."

The war of words marked a bitter end to one of the most lucrative production alliances between a major Hollywood studio and an A-list star. Cruise's movies included many of the blockbusters of modern movie history, such as "War of the Worlds," three "Mission: Impossible" films and "Jerry Maguire."

Last week, Wagner said her company had lined up $100 million to continue production, but she did not name names, leading many Hollywood watchers to wonder if indeed she really did have a partner waiting in the wings.

Wagner said on Monday the deal with First and Goal covers only overhead and development, and not individual film financing. She said the groups began talks in mid-August, and that it was "almost premature" to announce specific plans.

"The next step becomes financing, and those are areas that we are exploring," she said.

Cruise/Wagner has co-produced numerous big-budget movies over the years starting with 1996's original "Mission: Impossible," but what is less well known is that it has also produced low-budget and independent features like 2002 drama "Narc" and 2003's critically acclaimed "Shattered Glass."

Cruise/Wagner will now try to find a partner to distribute its films.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Ravi on September 02, 2006, 01:37:16 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/5308004.stm

Cruise makes apology to Shields

Tom Cruise apologised to actress Brooke Shields for attacking her use of anti-depressant drugs, she has told a US television chat show.

"He came over to my house and gave me a heartfelt apology," the 41-year-old told Jay Leno's Tonight Show.

Cruise accused Shields of failing to understand psychiatry in 2005 after she disclosed taking medication to treat post-natal depression.

A spokesman for Cruise said his friendship with Shields was "mended".

"He has not changed his position about anti-depressants," said Arnold Robinson, adding the actor still considers the drugs to be "unhealthy".

Opposition

Shields, who recently appeared in the London and New York productions of Chicago, said: "I was so impressed with how heartfelt he was.

"I did not feel that he was trying to convince me of anything other than the fact that he was deeply sorry. And I accepted it."

In June 2005, Cruise spoke of his opposition to psychiatric medicine, calling it a "pseudo science".

He is a follower of Scientology which is against the use of drugs to treat mental health problems.

After his attack on Shields, the actress denounced the remarks as a "ridiculous rant" and a "disservice to mothers everywhere".

She suffered from post-natal depression after the birth of her first daughter in 2003 and wrote a book about her experiences called Down Came The Rain: My Journey Through Post-Partum Depression.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: MacGuffin on September 06, 2006, 01:18:14 AM
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Baby Suri surfaces, at last

Katie Holmes is very angry and uses some very strong language to make her point.

"You can't say that about my child," she tells Vanity Fair in response to whirling tabloid speculation on why photos of daughter Suri weren't released immediately after the baby's April 18 birth.

The frenzy ends today with a 22-page spread with photographs by Annie Leibovitz in VF's October issue, on stands in New York and Los Angeles today and nationwide on Tuesday. Features editor Jane Sarkin spent five days with Holmes and Tom Cruise at their Colorado home. Holmes' parents and members of Cruise's family also were there.

"We were just living our lives, being a family," Cruise says. "We were taking our own photos and always planned to release those."

But "then all the craziness began," Holmes says. "This 'Where is Suri?' controversy. Tom and I looked at each other and said, 'What's going on?' We weren't trying to hide anything."

Leibovitz was a natural choice to photograph Suri for her first official portraits, Cruise says. "Annie is the only professional photographer who ever shot Bella and Connor as children," he adds, referring to his 13-year-old daughter and 11-year-old son with ex-wife Nicole Kidman.

Holmes describes the moment she first held her daughter: "I was just ready. The feeling is indescribable."

The actress adds: "She's a glorious girl. She's the miracle of our life."

Cruise says Suri "has Kate's lips and eyes." Holmes disagrees. "I think she has Tom's eyes. I think she looks like Tom."
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: matt35mm on September 06, 2006, 02:25:07 AM
Oh my god that baby!
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pubrick on September 06, 2006, 06:05:43 AM
[quote author=p o z e r Suri link=topic=1950.msg34993#msg34993 date=1055207935]
Quaaaaaaid. Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaid.
[/quote]
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 06, 2006, 07:54:23 AM
When Katie Holmes was "pregnant," I swore up and down that she wore an empathy belly for effect and once there were no pictures after the birth, my stance became: they're looking for a baby that looks like them and with a full head of hair, as Tom ad-libbed that one, making it harder for them to find a kid, hence the wait.

Now that I see the kid looks exactly like a cross between the two of them, I have to admit that I was wrong... or that she's WETA's latest creation.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: edison on September 06, 2006, 02:06:52 PM
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Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: pete on September 06, 2006, 02:24:55 PM
that's a fake.  that's one of them photoshop face generators that conan's been using for the last 7 seasons.

EDIT: she looked like if bjork had sex with herself.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: matt35mm on September 06, 2006, 02:37:18 PM
Seriously!  I feel like that baby can see through to my soul.  It's ridiculous.

I can see why she's bigger news than the new baby heir to the Japanese throne.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Pozer on September 06, 2006, 03:25:11 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on September 06, 2006, 06:05:43 AM
[quote author=p o z e r Suri link=topic=1950.msg34993#msg34993 date=1055207935]
Quaaaaaaid. Quaaaaaaaaaaaaaid.
[/quote]
Quote from: Pubrick on August 24, 2006, 05:56:52 AM
hahaha
Quote from: RegularKarate on August 05, 2006, 05:30:49 PM
touché
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Chest Rockwell on November 02, 2006, 03:26:34 PM
MGM Teams with Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner to Resurrect United Artists

MGM announced today that United Artists, the classic studio recently thought to be officially defunct, will be reborn once again - with Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner at the helm. According to a statement released by MGM, Cruise and Wagner (who formed the Cruise/Wagner production company in 1993) will drive the re-establishment of the studio, with Wagner as CEO overseeing day-to-day operations and Cruise starring in and producing films for the studio. In addition to setting the production slate, Cruise and Wagner will also hold "substantial ownership" in the studio, which was originally founded 85 years ago by Douglas Fairbanks, Charlie Chaplin, Mary Pickford and D.W. Griffith. The original United Artists' vision was to create a studio run by creative talent for creative talent as a way to help foster filmmaking outside the regimented studio system, a sentiment that was echoed in today's press release by all parties involved. Harry E. Sloan, Chairman and CEO of MGM, stated, "Partnering with Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner, we have the ideal creative foundation from which to reintroduce the United Artists brand... United Artists is once again the haven for independent filmmakers and a vital resource in developing quality filmed entertainment consistent with MGM's modern studio model." Cruise and Wagner also expressed their commitment to maintaining United Artists' unique vision, with Cruise stating, "It's our desire to create an environment where filmmakers can thrive and see their visions realized," and Wagner saying, "This is a great opportunity for Tom and me to re-establish the United Artists brand and to work closely with the creative community. As studio partner-operators, we will provide a supportive environment and infrastructure for filmmakers that will allow them to do their best work." The agreement between MGM and Cruise/Wagner, effective immediately, will have the new UA set to produce four films each year (a number that may increase in the future), with marketing and distribution handled by MGM. No new projects have yet been announced.
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Post by: soixante on November 03, 2006, 04:44:03 PM
First film to get the greenlight:  THE L. RON HUBBARD STORY, starring Philip Seymour Hoffman as the great author and religious leader.  Directed by Oliver Stone.  "After Alexander, I was eager to tackle another biopic," said Stone.
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Post by: squints on November 03, 2006, 07:59:46 PM
Charlie Chaplin, DW Griffith, Douglas Fairbanks, Mary Pickford.........Tom Cruise


One of these things is not like the other....
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Post by: matt35mm on November 03, 2006, 08:18:48 PM
Quote from: squints on November 03, 2006, 07:59:46 PM
Charlie Chaplin, DW Griffith, Douglas Faibanks, Mary Pickford.........Tom Cruise


One of these things is not like the other....

Quit being a sexist already.  She did fine.
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Post by: Pubrick on November 03, 2006, 09:46:07 PM
Quote from: squints on November 03, 2006, 07:59:46 PM
Charlie Chaplin, DW Griffith, Douglas Faibanks, Mary Pickford.........Tom Cruise


One of these things is not like the other....
well then maybe you should check your spelling next time.
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Post by: MacGuffin on November 15, 2006, 12:59:02 AM
UA stalks 'Lions'; Redford, Cruise, Streep topline
Source: Hollywood Reporter

United Artists, which was revived two weeks ago under new bosses Tom Cruise and Paula Wagner, is making its first acquisition: the CAA package "Lions for Lambs."

The fledgling label is in final negotiations to pick up "Lions," a drama set in Afghanistan that will be directed by Robert Redford, who also will star along with Meryl Streep and, in his first acting gig since "Mission: Impossible III," Cruise.

Written by Matthew Michael Carnahan ("The Kingdom"), the multilayered story stars Redford as a professor in the U.S. with two students in Afghanistan. Cruise will play a U.S. senator. "I'm the investigative reporter on (Cruise's) ass," confirmed Streep, who co-starred with Redford in Sydney Pollack's Oscar-winning 1985 epic "Out of Africa."

Andrew Hauptman and Carnahan are producing. The duo first teamed up when Hauptman hired Carnahan to adapt "State of Play," a political drama based on a hit BBC miniseries that is set up at Universal.

Because "Lions" is not a Cruise/Wagner production, Cruise and Wagner will function as supervising executives and will not take producer credits, sources said.

Production is scheduled to begin at the end of January, with an expected release in late 2007. MGM will distribute the movie domestically and handle worldwide rights.

Redford's most recent directorial outing was 2000's "The Legend of Bagger Vance"; he most recently starred in Lasse Hallstrom's "An Unfinished Life." Streep scored kudos as Miranda Preistley in this year's "The Devil Wears Prada."
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Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 10, 2007, 07:41:29 PM
I don't go to this forum enough but I was wondering if Cruise had a film in line for next year. He does and shockingly, I am excited. This is Cruise joining a production instead of just developing one for him to star in. It means the film likely won't be a simple vehicle project in which he has to be in nearly every shot of the film plus play a character who is lifted to falsified heroics. The Cruise saga got particularily ridiculous in '06 when MI3 looked like it had a plot to coinside with the selling of his marriage to Katie Holmes for the public.

Once upon a time, he was an amazing actor. Back to the late 1980s, he came out with Rain Man and Born on the Fourth of July in two years. He was already a star in the making and many saw a great actor in the making as well. There were critics who were even noticing that his rise was coming together the same way it did for Marlon Brando in the 1950s. But, Cruise gave too much of his career to Hollywood to become the elite star around the world. Only a few films here and there since then has capitilized on his talent. I doubt this new project will usher in a trend, but it should be a nice departure. 

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Post by: MacGuffin on February 05, 2007, 05:03:31 PM
Hardy Boys II Men: Cruise & Stiller at Fox?

Apparently, Kevin Federline's recent self-effacing Superbowl stunt has inspired Tom Cruise.

Insiders tell TMZ that Tom Cruise has been talking with Ben Stiller about starring in an updated version of "The Hardy Boys" at Twentieth Century Fox. Tentatively titled "The Hardy Men" -- a comedy that would be directed by Stiller's director on "A Night At the Museum," Shawn Levy ("The Pink Panther," "Cheaper By the Dozen").

"The Hardy Boys" detective novels date back to 1927, though a variety of ghost writers using the pen name of Franklin W. Dixon kept Frank and Joe Hardy perpetual teenagers. "The Hardy Men" would have them finally grown up, but up to their old tricks once more.

While nothing is set in stone, (like, say, that T. Rex skeleton from "Museum") the discussions do reveal a larger, more interesting development stemming from Cruise's L'affaire de sofa d' Oprah: What to do next when your public image has taken a public beating?

For starters: acknowledge the elephant in the room, and make fun of it. People familiar with Cruise's plans say that Cruise met with Stiller about starring in "Tropic Thunder," a farcical action-comedy Stiller has set up at DreamWorks Pictures that paraodies Cruise's work in Paramount's "Mission: Impossible" franchise. It's not clear why Cruise ultimately decided not to "go there" as "Thunder" would have been a way to publically demonstrate that Cruise actually has a sense of humor about his over-the-top antics. Perhaps it seemed simply too risky a financial prospect; in the ten years since its debut, the "Mission: Impossible" franchise has sold $1.4 billion worth of tickets worldwide. That kind of money, even with a franchise at its nadir, is hard to poke fun at when the checks have your name on them.

For now, it appears that Stiller will both play the lead role in and direct "Tropic Thunder." But insiders tell TMZ he hasn't given up on recruiting Cruise into a part that would allow the megastar to poke fun at his super-serious Ethan Hunt alter ego. "The Hardy Men" is primed to go into production come October, and regardless of whether he takes the gig, Cruise clearly sees comedy as a means to redeem both his public persona and the box office crown. Indeed, the fruits of Levy and Stiller's last collaboration are still being savored at Fox, where "A Night at the Museum" is in its seventh week on 3,000 screens, and has grossed $421 million worldwide. Or, put another way, $23 million more than "Mission: Impossible 3."
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Post by: MacGuffin on February 13, 2007, 12:11:27 AM
'Hardy Men': Cruise, Stiller take on 'Boys'
Source: Hollywood Reporter

Tom Cruise and Ben Stiller are teaming up for "Hardy Men," a grown-up take on the teen sleuths known as the Hardy Boys. Shawn Levy is attached to direct the 20th Century Fox buddy action comedy, which would be produced by Stiller and his Red Hour Films partner Stuart Cornfeld.

The long-in-development project sees the Hardy Boys grown up but not speaking to each other, having been estranged for many years. They are forced to overcome sibling rivalry when they reunite to solve a mystery.

Bob Kosberg, who brought the idea to Stiller several years ago, also is producing.

The project is out to writers, and the studio is hoping for a shoot in 2008.

Carla Hacken is overseeing for Fox.

"The Hardy Boys" was a long-running book series that began in 1927 and was written by various ghost writers under the pen name Franklin W. Dixon. The series focused on two teenage brothers, Frank and Joe Hardy, amateur detectives who often assisted their father, a private detective, in solving crimes.

The original series, which ran through 1979, encompassed 58 books, many of which were updated over the years. They also were subsequent book series as well as graphic novels and comic books.

In addition, the two brothers have appeared in several TV incarnations. Tim Considine and Tommy Kirk played the siblings on episodes of "The Mickey Mouse Club" in 1956 and '57. Parker Stevenson and Shaun Cassidy handled the title roles in an ABC primetime series "The Hardy Boys/Nancy Drew Mysteries," which ran from 1977-79.

Stiller and Levy are coming off the giant success of "Night at the Museum," which has grossed more than $230 million at the boxoffice.

Cruise and Stiller teamed up for a behind-the-scenes spoof of "Mission: Impossible II" for the MTV Movie Awards. In it, Stiller portrayed Cruise's eager-to-befriend stunt double.
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Post by: Pubrick on February 13, 2007, 12:13:19 AM
hardly men
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Post by: squints on February 13, 2007, 12:38:16 AM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff149%2Fsquints06%2FHardlyBoys.jpg&hash=84bc66702d02477d6f840ffaacd22f816de03886)

I'll bet Tom Cruise has a raging clue.
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Post by: soixante on February 15, 2007, 03:44:35 AM
I'll say one thing for Cruise -- he knows how to bounce back.  First, he takes over United Artists.  Then, for prestige he hooks up with Redford and Streep.  Now, he teams up with Ben Stiller, who is arguably hotter than Cruise at the box office.

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Post by: modage on February 15, 2007, 08:12:54 AM
i'll say this for cruise.  by working with shaun levy or adam shankman (who i can never tell apart) he is making a huge mistake.  meeting with judd apatow was a step in the right direction if he was to try making a comedy.  this will be horrible and thats too bad since he usually puts so much faith in directors.  i wonder what in this guys filmography gave him that confidence?  or is stiller enough?
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Post by: pete on February 15, 2007, 11:21:02 PM
I dunno, "bounce back" means that he had to be actually unsuccessful--the terrible PR and the studio feud aren't really signs of unsuccess, but rather, too much success. 
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Post by: Ravi on February 16, 2007, 12:13:30 AM
Quote from: modage on February 15, 2007, 08:12:54 AM
i'll say this for cruise.  by working with shaun levy or adam shankman (who i can never tell apart) he is making a huge mistake. 

I hear he's doing The Pacifier II.

Hell, even Ratner would be a step up from these two.
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Post by: MacGuffin on July 23, 2007, 01:20:53 AM
Tom Cruise sweet on 'Salt' role
Columbia in talks with George to direct
Source: Variety

Columbia Pictures is in negotiations with Terry George to direct "Edwin A. Salt," a Kurt Wimmer-scripted drama that is being developed as a star vehicle for Tom Cruise.

Lorenzo di Bonaventura and Sunil Perkash are producing.

Col's hope is for Cruise to play the title character, a CIA officer who is fingered by a defector as a Russian sleeper spy. Salt must elude capture by his superiors and sets out to reunite with his family and prove his innocence.

Cruise has been busy this year making the Robert Redford-directed "Lions for Lambs" and the Bryan Singer-directed "Valkyrie" for United Artists after he and partner Paula Wagner revived the shingle. But he has been eyeing several other projects for possible pre-strike films. Despite the recent Sturm und Drang in Germany over "Valkyrie," one other possibility is a remake of the Doris Dorrie-directed German comedy "Men," which has director Todd Phillips attached at Warner Bros.

Cruise has been intrigued for months by "Edwin A. Salt," and the studio has been engaged in finding the right director. George, who last directed "Hotel Rwanda," just finished "Reservation Road," a Focus Features drama that stars Joaquin Phoenix, Mark Ruffalo, Jennifer Connelly and Mira Sorvino.
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Post by: Kal on July 23, 2007, 03:01:48 AM
Tommy got fingered
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Post by: B.C. Long on July 24, 2007, 02:32:06 AM
Has Tom seen Ultra Violet?
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Post by: modage on January 15, 2008, 12:41:26 PM
http://gawker.com/5002269/the-cruise-indoctrination-video-scientology-tried-to-suppress?autoplay=true
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Post by: Sleepless on January 15, 2008, 01:09:54 PM
See, that's who Britney needs help from. Not Dr. Phil.
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Post by: Stefen on January 15, 2008, 01:18:05 PM
If he's the second most powerful person in Scientology, then who's the first?
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Post by: polkablues on January 15, 2008, 05:23:42 PM
Quote from: Stefen on January 15, 2008, 01:18:05 PM
If he's the second most powerful person in Scientology, then who's the first?

This guy. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miscavige)
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Post by: Stefen on January 15, 2008, 05:41:53 PM
haha he was Tom's best man. His hobbies include riding motorcycles and eating Jewish babies.
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Post by: 72teeth on January 15, 2008, 09:49:44 PM
I was seriously waiting for him to say:

"I am here to enlighten you"

or

"In this life, it's not what you hope for, it's not what you deserve - it's what. you. take."



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Post by: Just Withnail on January 15, 2008, 11:31:12 PM
So what exactly is "the ballpark" and how do I "get out of it"? Has Tom Cruise just threatened to kill me?
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Post by: polkablues on January 17, 2008, 05:39:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-hTPNRlWU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly-hTPNRlWU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5sHSnQ7mzM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5sHSnQ7mzM)

More of Tom accepting the award for craziest man in the asylum.  Watching the first video, I can't help but wonder at what point did Tom Cruise actually turn into Frank T.J. Mackey in real life?  I kept waiting for him to ask everyone to open up their blue booklets and then knocking over a table.
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Post by: bonanzataz on January 20, 2008, 11:54:53 AM
god, take a look at the first page of this thread. was the board ever REALLY this boring? really?
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Post by: Alexandro on January 21, 2008, 11:17:44 AM
well, we do have a history of prefering fill this place with posts about stupid bullshit more than with actual film discussion...but it's fun...

To merge both of these tendencies on the Tom Cruise subject I gotta say that his performance in Magnolia (his best along with Collateral) always freaks me out a little bit because he really seems to be a little bit like Frank Mackey in his day to day life. The overwhelming self confidence, the hidden "issues" that come out every now and then in the way he speaks, his crazy laughter. He relished in that character and it shows. It's a little bit like Travolta dressing up as a fat woman and having the time of his life cause finally he can live up his fantasy in front of everyone...

Career wise, Cruse is fucking dead unless he starts making movies again and concentrates only on the work. Good movies with good directors can save anyone's career.
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Post by: MacGuffin on January 23, 2008, 11:59:47 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLCe7xq4IWs
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Post by: Gamblour. on January 23, 2008, 02:22:24 PM
Not working, but here you go:

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/3f716ffebe
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Post by: Kal on May 06, 2008, 02:45:27 AM
Official Tom Cruise site launched... made a big media fuzz... pretty well done and it has a great intro video.

www.tomcruise.com


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Post by: MacGuffin on May 15, 2008, 04:29:17 PM
Tom Cruise Elected President
Teaming with Washington, Noyce for political thriller.

Tom Cruise will reportedly play the President of the United States opposite Denzel Washington as the villain in the Phillip Noyce-directed political thriller 28th Amendment.

The Warner Bros. project was penned by Transformers and Star Trek scribes Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman, who also penned Cruise's Mission: Impossible III.

According to Moviehole, Cruise would play President Ben Cahill who "discovers the United States is actually being controlled by a super secret organization (run by Denzel Washington) that terminates those that get in its way."

The role would mark a promotion for Cruise who last starred as a U.S. senator in Robert Redford's Lions for Lambs. Washington, who starred in the remake of the political conspiracy classic The Manchurian Candidate, is also attached to star in The Matarese Circle, based on the Robert Ludlum novel.
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Post by: picolas on May 15, 2008, 07:51:53 PM
i'm not sure if i can have any hope for star trek now knowing it's the guys who wrote transformers.
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Post by: MacGuffin on August 19, 2008, 12:20:57 AM
Tom Cruise wakes up 'Sleeper'
Actor teams with Sam Raimi, Josh Donen on adaptation
Source: Hollywood Reporter

As Tom Cruise goes about writing the next chapter in his career, he's developing an interest in comic book movies.

Together with Sam Raimi, he is setting up "Sleeper" at Warner Bros. Cruise is loosely attached to star in the adaptation of the DC Comics/Wildstorm comic that Raimi would produce with his Star Road Entertainment partner Josh Donen.

Written by Ed Brubaker with art by Sean Phillips, "Sleeper," which ran from 2003-05, centers on an operative whose fusion with an alien artifact makes him impervious to pain and allows him to pass it on to others through skin contact. He is placed undercover in a villainous organization by an intelligence agency and falls for a member of the group, named Miss Misery.

Although he remains a co-owner of United Artists -- from which his longtime producing partner Paula Weinstein resigned last week -- he's not tied exclusively to that company. It now looks as if his next acting gig will be the Spyglass thriller "Tourist," as if to counter the more cerebral role he played in the UA boxoffice failure "Lions for Lambs" and the upcoming UA WWII period pic "Valkyrie," in which he plays the anti-Nazi Claus van Stauffenberg.

"Sleeper" is the third project that Cruise has become associated with over the past two weeks --all three separate from his commitments at UA. In addition to "Tourist," the actor has expressed interest in the Working Title-Universal comedy "Food Fight."

Also apart from UA, the actor picked up some good notices last week for his uncharacteristic turn as a bald film mogul in DreamWorks-Paramount's "Tropic Thunder."

Even if Cruise opts not to do "Sleeper," his interest in the project is propelling it forward, despite complicated rights issues that must be sorted out. Raimi and Donen have long been fans of the book, and the project could have found homes at Sony and Regency if those issues hadn't been so complex.

"Sleeper" is a spin-off book from Wildstorm flagship title "WildC.A.T.s" and features characters from another spin-off book, "Gen 13."

Both books had been set up at different places around town and some of those deals were made before DC bought the imprint in 1999.

Warners, now involved in a legal wrangle with Fox over the rights to "Watchmen," appears determined to cross all the t's and dot all the i's in its contracts for "Sleeper."

The project is being eyed not only as a starring vehicle for Cruise but also as a possible franchise for the studio.

Matt Reilly is overseeing the project for Warners while Russell Hollander shepherds for Star Road. Gregory Noveck oversees for DC. No writer is attached.

"Sleeper" sees Raimi and Donen continuing their company's superhero, which began when they recently set up the superhero story "The Transplants" at Disney.
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Post by: MacGuffin on September 05, 2008, 09:22:30 AM
Tom Cruise, UA pick up 'Monster'
Studio acquires rights to Douglas Preston book
Source" Variety

VENICE — Tom Cruise and United Artists have acquired rights to serial-killer thriller "The Monster of Florence," with Cruise attached to produce and possibly to star, according to Douglas Preston, author of the bestseller.

Preston and Italo journo Mario Spezi told Corriere della Sera they have inked with UA for a big-screen adaptation of their reconstruction of eight grisly double homicides believed to have been committed single-handedly between 1968 and 1985 in and around the Italian Renaissance gem.

"It's the biggest movie deal in my life," the leading Italo daily quoted Preston as saying in a front page story. Previous Preston tomes made into movies include thriller "The Relic."

"The film will have Florence and the Chianti as protagonists: two of the locations most beloved by Americans," said Spezi, a Florentine crime reporter and "Monster" contributor, to Corriere.

Reps for United Artists could not immediately be reached for comment.

Spezi said the script will be penned by Chris McQuarrie ("Valkyrie") and that Cruise will produce and decide whether he wants to star once he reads it.

The "Monster of Florence" case had previously inspired the Thomas Harris sequel "Hannibal."
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Post by: MacGuffin on May 28, 2009, 12:41:50 AM
Cruise joins Diaz in 'Wichita'
Duo to star in 20th Century Fox action comedy
Source: Variety

Tom Cruise is zeroing in on the 20th Century Fox action comedy "Wichita" as his next star vehicle.

He'll pair with Cameron Diaz in the James Mangold-directed film. That ends a serious courtship that the star had since January with some of the highest-profile projects in Hollywood.

According to sources, Cruise and Diaz have approved the script, and their deals are in advanced negotiations. While Fox has not officially dated the picture, sources said the studio is eyeing a summer 2010 release.

The script has been through many machinations, but the most recent drafts were done by Scott Frank, with Mangold currently fine-tuning the script with Laeta Kalogridis ("Shutter Island"). Two-hander has several action scenes.

Cruise will play a secret agent who pops in and out of the life of a single woman.

Since the opening of "Valkyrie," Cruise has been courted for and has shown serious interest in the Len Wiseman-directed DreamWorks thriller "Motorcade"; the Bharat Nalluri-directed Spyglass remake "The Tourist"; the David Cronenberg-directed MGM drama "The Matarese Circle"; the Universal/Working Title romantic comedy "Lost for Words"; and "The 28th Amendment," the Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck-directed Warner Bros. thriller.

The competition for the slot came down to "Wichita" and "Motorcade." It is possible that Cruise might do one of the other projects down the line.
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 07, 2010, 12:54:48 AM
Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson to Reunite for 'El Presidente'
By Christopher Campbell; Cinematical

Could you handle a reunion between Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson on the big screen? Okay, now that the obligatory reference to the iconic line from 'A Few Good Men' is over with, here's the truth: the two actors will potentially co-star in Warner Bros.'s action comedy 'El Presidente,' about a former commander-in-chief and his Secret Service agent on the run from some sort of threat. Nicholson has so far been offered the role of the "bumbling and degenerate" ex-president, while Cruise is attached to the part of his idealistic protector, according to 24 Frames.

Nothing else is revealed about the film (why the Spanish title?) except that it was written by TV scribe Dan Goor, who has worked for Conan O'Brien, Carson Daly, 'The Daily Show' and currently 'Parks and Recreation.' But it does evoke a lot of memories of other films, not just the one featuring Cruise and Nicholson and a military court-martial case. For one, there's 'Mars Attacks,' in which Nicholson played the president. And then there are the other comedies involving the Secret Service, like 'Guarding Tess' and 'First Kid.'

The main concern here could be that even an IMAX screen is too small to contain such huge personalities together for what's likely the majority of the film's running time. Also, will audiences want to see Cruise as yet another government agent, here again in an action comedy, which didn't suit him so well this past summer with 'Knight and Day.' It's presumed this project would come somewhat soon after the next 'Mission: Impossible' movie. Maybe if he employs prosthetics for his character, a la Len Grossman, it'll be funny?
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Post by: wilder on April 25, 2013, 06:19:16 PM
Tom Cruise Can Still Be Great -- Why Aren't His Movies?
By Calum Marsh Wednesday, Apr 24 2013
via The Village Voice

Though he's long been among the most recognizable celebrities in the world, Tom Cruise has always seemed vaguely irritating, like the popular kid at school everybody secretly dislikes. His is an odd sort of fame: globally recognized but rarely acclaimed, he remains more reliably bankable than nearly any other actor of his generation, his presence an almost guaranteed boon to a film's bottom line despite being a magnet for bad press and, in recent years especially, mild scandal.

art of the problem, of course, is that our gossip-saturated conception of celebrity culture privileges private controversy over professional achievement. That's why, in the public imagination, a few years of incriminating tabloid headlines have apparently eclipsed the accomplishments of a three-decade career, effectively transforming a once-celebrated star into a spectacle of folly.

What's strange about this perceptual shift isn't so much that a respected actor's reputation has been summarily tarnished—it would hardly be the first time public sentiment curdled so suddenly, as it did with Charlie Chaplin and Fatty Arbuckle—as it is that Cruise's recent bout with popular opinion began during one of his career's most prosperous periods.

In 2005, the year of his notorious couch-hopping meltdown, Cruise had just delivered back-to-back performances in two of his most compelling films: first came Michael Mann's groundbreaking foray into digital filmmaking, Collateral, in which Cruise played a virtuoso hitman chauffeured around downtown Los Angeles by a reluctant cabbie, played by Jamie Foxx. Collateral found Cruise consciously subverting an increasingly shopworn routine, suppressing his trademark charisma and recalibrating his charm toward something decidedly understated.

Cruise starred in Steven Spielberg's War of the Worlds the following year. Though not particularly well-received upon release—at least by the standards of Spielberg, whose previous film with Cruise, 2002's Minority Report, was a massive hit both critically and commercially—it seems apparent now that Worlds represented a serious effort on the part of both director and star to grapple with some of the lingering residual anxieties of the period. In many ways the film endures as one of the definitive works of post-9/11 cinema. Our cultural conversation neglected this dimension of the film in favor of vacuous rumor-mongering, which suggests the degree to which we value watercooler gossip over deep engagement.

Not that any of this was new to Cruise, mind you. He'd already sparred with the press in a years-long public relations battle more than five years before Scientology and Oprah's couch ever entered the discussion, when aspersions cast on his sexuality eclipsed recognition of his work. This was around 1999, the actor's artistic peak. That was the year in which Cruise starred in Stanley Kubrick's Eyes Wide Shut, the great director's final film and arguably his richest, as well as appearing in a crucial supporting role in Paul Thomas Anderson's widely hailed Magnolia.

What these movies share—more than simply being major, somewhat difficult works by important, infamously difficult filmmakers—is that they more or less relegate Cruise to a position of weakness, simultaneously tapping into his stardom and pointedly undermining it. Eyes Wide Shut finds Cruise being shut down and emasculated at every turn; Magnolia, meanwhile, finds his exaggeratedly macho poses thoroughly deconstructed, his persona exposed as phony.

These qualities prove intriguing, but they also prove, more significantly, that Cruise was once willing to relinquish control of his image to filmmakers whose creative judgment he clearly trusted, which resulted in work of surprising intelligence and sophistication—unsurprisingly, some of the best of his career. Lately, however, Cruise has taken the opposite approach: rather than actively seek roles that challenge his iconography and legacy, he's receded into complacency and, even worse, seemingly desperate self-mythologizing.

When he isn't busy reprising one of his least interesting roles—Mission Impossible's milquetoast hero Ethan Hunt—he's hard at work (re)building his own reputation from the ground up, furiously reasserting his masculine prowess and utter infallibility in such trifles as Jack Reacher and the antiseptic sci-fi trifle Oblivion.

It's not that these roles or even films are bad, necessarily—though Jack Reacher is pretty lousy—but rather that they're uninteresting, which for an actor once respected for making genuinely daring choices is disappointing. Cruise seems stuck making films for the sake of his agent rather than for his audience or the cinema. Perhaps this is simply an extended period of downtime for an actor known to occasionally phone it in, as he did in Vanilla Sky and The Last Samurai.

But it's possible that maybe this is a delayed response to how often we've ignored Cruise's capacity to branch out and surprise, a kind of career shrug from a guy resigned to the fact that, no matter how hard he tries, we'll always focus on his personal life instead of his talent. Whenever Tom Cruise most obviously deserves acclaim and recognition, the cameras are directed toward something private and wholly unrelated, and the conversation shifts from praise to scrutiny to vehement rejection.
Title: Re: What the hell is wrong with Tom Cruise?
Post by: Lottery on April 25, 2013, 06:28:58 PM
I liked War of the Worlds. Thought it was a fair bit better than Minority Report.