Can anyone offer redeeming opinions of this show? I know several people voted for it at the Xixax Awards.
I watched the pilot, and I could barely get through it because of the daughter, who is one of the most instantly obnoxious characters I have ever encountered in my life. I knew this literally 10 seconds after she was introduced. I'm not even going to get into it, except to say that I'm sick of lazily-drawn rebellious teenage girl characters, and this character is pretty much the worst incarnation of that archetype that you could possibly imagine. Absolutely unbearable. The cutting scene... seriously? Not the most nuanced or realistic depiction of self-harm, I dare say. This character immediately blew past self-parody into some kind of odious soul-sucking stereotype.
Keep in mind I'm only going off the pilot, so this could be unfair, but everything is so cartoonish and so rushed. The high school scenes were laughable, like The Virgin Suicides via Childrens Hospital. (Thinking of the slow-motion walkalongs set to classic rock.)
So... are there any especially standout episodes that I should check out? Because there are promising bits in the show and it definitely has an edge to it. Does the daughter die? If so, tell me where she dies so I can start on the following episode.
I have not seen the show but someone did suggest I watch it. With the mini series format, you could always skip the first season and go straight to season two which I heard was better than the first.
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on September 03, 2013, 09:41:55 PMDoes the daughter die? If so, tell me where she dies so I can start on the following episode.
Won't matter. On this show about ghosts and spirits, even dead characters aren't killed off.
I've only ever watched the first ep of season two. Don't recommend it at all. Too ADD for me.
I liked Season 2 better overall, but Season 1 has a much better ending, it also has Connie Britton. It's not high art or anything but it's well shot and there are some inspired performances, especially from Jessica Lange.
i think i'm the only person on this board that religiously follows this show, so i'll make this kind of concise.
season 1 is garbage. season 2: asylum is brilliant, some of the best horror tv ever. season 3: coven was just a joke.
if anyone wants to defend season 3, i encourage you wholeheartedly, please. the first episode was amazing and then it just kind of shit itself to death.
so by that logic we can kind of assume season 4 will be awesome. but what this topic is really about is the fact that throughout season 3, hardcore fans were guessing what the fourth story would be, to the extent they made fan posters.
the fan posters depicted: "american horror story: circus", or "carnival".
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it became kind of viral, among fans. the shows creator would comment on this in interviews and say that this was just speculation by fans and didn't know where they got the idea from. you can even verify that by the second image which lists the cast as the same as season 3, which they obviously didn't know, and just wanted some filler for effect.
but anyway, they release this shit today: http://www.avclub.com/article/american-horror-storys-season-four-will-be-set-car-202257
proving that everyone who made the fan posters was not just close, but exactly RIGHT.
so my question is, what do you guys think? did the writer steal this from his fans? was it just a publicity stunt and he knew from the beginning? or was this just bizarre luck?
A circus is a great place for a horror show. I think about Freaks, Elephant Man and the TV show Carnivale. I think it's a bizarre coincidence.
Quote from: Drenk on March 17, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
A circus is a great place for a horror show. I think about Freaks, Elephant Man and the TV show Carnivale. I think it's a bizarre coincidence.
There is huge potential. Will they set new season in time of Great Depression? If they make intro for "American Horror Story" at least half as good as "Carnivale", I'll watch it:
am i the only one watching this season?
You might be but I kinda wish I was. I watched Season 1 and enjoyed it but tried at least 3 times to watch Season 2 and could never muster the energy to get through it. This is partially due to the fact that my wife would watch S1 with me due to Mrs. Coach Taylor Connie Britton and without her in S2, she was like "nope" and attempts to watch it on my own haven't panned out. I liked it but it didn't compell me to keep watching. I'd like to catch up someday though cause I really like/respect what the show is doing format-wise.
mid season finale. i have so much to say about this season, and the ways this show has separated from the first two seasons, but i don't think anyone here has seen enough of it for it to even make a difference.
ok. no spoilers.
so the show returns this wednesday, and the teaser looks much better than the first half of this season:
NPH looks great and perfect for this, hopefully fixes this season.
my problems with this season are similar to how i felt about coven.
this shows production value is absolutely insane. the costumes, the look, the sets, everything is just bafflingly gorgeous.
BUT the writing tends to just float all over the place, not go anywhere, not tie up loose ends, not make sense, lose focus. a large ensemble of characters whose behavior and intentions are inconsistent and don't make a whole lot of sense half the time. and then there's this weird flashback editing.
they seem to be attempting to reinvent the mechanics of a flashback, or a flashforward.
you'll have to see the episodes to know what i'm talking about but there is one ep where they literally flashforward to something that DOESNT happen and makes no distinction that its a fantasy, and then immediately cuts to a flashforward that DOES happen while not showing that we are still in the present. confusing frustrating shit.
but its a marvelous universe that they keep creating with each season. everything is gorgeous and interesting and flamboyantly horrifying so i keep forgiving it.
Quote from: 03 on January 05, 2015, 01:52:34 PM
my problems with this season are similar to how i felt about coven.
this shows production value is absolutely insane. the costumes, the look, the sets, everything is just bafflingly gorgeous.
BUT the writing tends to just float all over the place, not go anywhere, not tie up loose ends, not make sense, lose focus.
I find this to be Ryan Murphy's calling card. Everything just feels like a first draft to me. I mean, look no further than his new show,
American Crime Story. It's a great idea for a show, but he's going with the OJ case for the first season? C'mon, think this through a little, Ryan!
Quote from: 03 on February 25, 2015, 03:57:47 PM
AWESOME
YES. Fantastic casting. I also hope that Frances Conroy won't be wasted this time.
the series just started connecting previously disconnected seasons, which is pretty cool and well done so far.
this short article about the mystery concerning this next seasons storyline agrees with me and makes some interesting observations.
Quote from: bloodydigusting.comFX is moving forward with "American Horror Story: Hotel", which will star Lady Gaga. And like every year prior, we know nothing about it.
Last week we told you the H.H. Holmes theory, in which "Hotel" could be about America's first serial killer and his "Murder Castle".
Now, a second theory has come to life, pointing out the recent (January 2013) bizarre events at the Cecil Hotel in which 21-year-old Elise Lam was found dead in a water tank. Prior to drowning in the tank, hotel video surveillance caught haunting footage of her in an elevator having issues (see below).
What's more shocking is that the hotel was allegedly home to various serial killers from Richard "the Nightstalker" Ramirez and Jack Unterweger.
The kicker? Allegedly Elizabeth Short, also known as the Black Dahlia, was last seen at the Cecil Hotel before her 1947 murder. It should also be noted that Mena Survari appears as the Black Dahlia in an episode of season one! Hmmmm....
Does a black cloud hang over the hotel's roof? Is it also the inspiration behind FX's fifth season of "American Horror Story"? Only time will tell.
they just paraphrased cecil hotel's wikipedia article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Hotel_(Los_Angeles) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Hotel_(Los_Angeles))
elise lam's story i talked about in shoutbox a bit back, and i think it'd be a bit shit of them to make a narrative based on her. they'd brew speculations about a real tragic death into some tv horror excitement? fuck that. i think fuck that, of course i do. calling that a tasteless guess on their part and i'd be amazed into disappointment if elise lam was brought up in the next season of this whatever
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nevermind i'm already mad at someone else:
QuoteEXCLUSIVE: In competitive bidding, Sony Pictures has acquired The Bringing, a horror spec script written by Brandon and Phillip Murphy and based on an actual place and series of events. The spec's basis is on a woman, Elisa Lam, who was found dead in the water tanks on the roof of the Cecil Hotel in Los Angeles.
http://deadline.com/2014/02/sony-pictures-wins-fright-spec-the-bringing-mystery-revolving-around-l-a-s-cecil-hotel-690590/
another person's misery other people's jollies. ever. whatever
Quote from: jenkselise lam's story i talked about in shoutbox a bit back, and i think it'd be a bit shit of them to make a narrative based on her.
i see what you're saying and completely agree with you.
but in defense of the article, i think that its going to focus on the hotels history more than that particular event, the main reason being that it's previously reference the black dahlia, and they're connecting all the stories now.
the movie idea however is completely atrocious.
src (http://"http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3337409/american-horror-story-hotel-another-returning-guest/")
Just the other week franchise star Jessica Lange exited the "American Horror Story" universe, leaving the reigns to the infamous Lady Gaga.
Now, with the fifth season in full swing at FX, co-creater Ryan Murphy has added Chloë Sevigny to the cast of "American Horror Story: Hotel", returning this fall. Sevigny is a returning series regular, and recently starred in Netflix's incredible new series, "Bloodline".
Lady Gaga, Wes Bentley, Matt Bomer and Cheyenne Jackson have previously been cast.
We've been truth to figure out what "American Horror Story: Hotel" will be about. We came up with three theories, tagged here. Which do you think it is, if any?
In terms of Lange's previous exit: "Yes, I'm done," she told the PaleyFest audience. "We've had a great run here. I have absolutely loved doing these four characters that I've had the opportunity to play. In all the madness, I've loved the writers, my actors, Ryan and the whole, I mean, insanity of it, shooting here, shooting in New Orleans, the stories, everything."
HOLY FREAKING CRAP
http://moviepilot.com/posts/2015/04/25/full-cast-of-ahs-hotel-released-2885812?lt_source=external,manual
I'm obviously not a prude but how the fuck did this get put on tv
spoilers
so the premiere was incredibly graphic with violence and sexuality.
not sure how network can show a very vivid scene of a dude getting fucked in the ass.
the lady gaga entrance slash orgy sequence was enthralling. very enjoyable overall but i have no idea wtf is going on.
I've given the first couple eps of season 1 a shot and last night attempted to watch ep 1 of season 4, but nothing has clicked with me yet. When I heard about the "Creepy Clowns" in last season I had to give it a peak. I saw the first one show up and thought "ehhh, big whoop" I'm sure they have an interesting backstory, whatevz. Just don't have enough time to file through hours of tv to get to the good parts.
My barber yesterday was raving about this season's premiere, though. Luckily, I had my headphones on when he was spoiling the best parts of the show, but I definitely caught "How did this get on TV?!" and I WILL give it a look-see. It's interesting when you consider that the show's creators also did Nip/Tuck back in 2003, which was a pioneer in cable TV series pushing the boundaries of censorship. I met Brad Falchuk as a junior in high school because he's my english teacher's brother in law so she had him visit our class and show an ep of Nip/Tuck with a Q&A after. I was obviously the most interested party in the class, because amidst questions of "What kind of car do you drive?" I was asking him how you outline an entire season of TV from front to back. So, we actually shot the shit a little after class and he gave me his email. Which I used to ask him for advice once when I was entering a one act play into a competition. He wrote back with some solid tips that I unfortunately never used after changing my story entirely. I don't have any other interesting tidbits from this short meeting a decade ago, just my little name drop story of Brad Falchuk being a straight shooter.
Wow...see you what you mean 03. Just watched the new season premiere, my introduction to AHS -- is the whole show this tasteless?
the first two seasons make much more sense. the show has deviated into being artistic without intention. i was just blown away by the blatant graphicness of the first episode, this season.
i mean, how to get away with murder definitely took the lead last year with openly gay stuff, but there was literally a five minute scene of a dude getting fucked in the butthole
did anyone watch the premiere?
i have no one to talk to about this. please please chime in. i have so much to say.