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Title: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 20, 2014, 01:22:41 PM
the trailer for the short i made has been depassworded. it's up. i'd like to share it here because

please don't consider yourself a test group (please consider yourselves my friends), and please don't provide an easy link that'll load embed data

there's easy legwork here:
vimeo.com/81792547

and you're there if you wanna be
then it's yours and whatevs. maybe it's perfect for your grandma's facebook, idk
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Drenk on May 20, 2014, 01:48:06 PM
Is the short available? Or do you want to share it with us? The trailer is very intriguing; the images are disconnected in such a way that I don't know how they work together, but I really want to know.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Cloudy on May 20, 2014, 01:55:56 PM
^^ everything he said. intrigued...teased...delighted...curious...confused...goose...s...planes...red poles...palm trees in a dusty orangey browny greeny glow...i wanna pull stills out and place them here...
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 20, 2014, 02:04:11 PM
the short is still password protected, the short still has days ahead at nobudge, and i'm feeling emotional, because there are these adult professional reasons it hasn't been on nobudge already. i'm ready to share it! but it's not ready

a thing i can mention is i feel lucky we were able to make a 1:15 trailer for a 7:33 short. that's crazy. thanks everyone. the trailer at the beginning and end has footage from the scarlet we used for the short (+1 alexa shot of the tree for venice), the beginning also has iphone video and the short has iphone video, and for the trailer we shot "lead character in los angeles" rcv vhs footage for the middle. beginning, middle, and end are readable by the song selection.

seemed like too much to ask, to show 1:15 and expect you to wanna watch 6:18 more, so we made some shit up for the fun and for the hell of it

thanks for the words drenk cloudy and axolotl!! i'm excited if you're excited. calm and friendly anyone can for sure pm and get the short's viewing info
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Punch on May 20, 2014, 02:35:51 PM
looks very good jenkins, im also intrigued
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Alexandro on May 20, 2014, 03:11:53 PM
loved the trailer and made me want to take any camera and go out and shoot everything.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 20, 2014, 04:09:09 PM
not trying to brag or nothing, but two more people. i appreciate it. of course i do

the last thing i forget, aside from a synopsis of anything (which it could be guessed is the last thing i'd share), is movie facts

movie facts:

my personal movie facts -- are like my resume. a little shaky. let's say i've traveled blocks that've led me nowhere and i don't look good on paper

codirector/editor -- edited the fargo promotional bumpers, edited lucy walker's sundance-selected the lion's mouth opens, edited the crash part of walker's the crash reel, edited walker's the contenders, was an assistant for peter bogdanovich, and don't he look good on paper? friends, you know. they mean a lot

dp -- shot the harmontown documentary, shot this wild nothing music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD8Reb-zHXA) (with the steadycam op from the avengers), shot this chain gang of 1974 music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rprf7LEraU4), and other things which i'm not listing because the list is long and he's a camera pro

production designer -- art director for short term 12, this sigur rós music video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i9vEBWnu9I), and basically every job she gets seems like loads of fun and she's great. i worked as her pa for pampers commercials, paranormal activity 4, and other things

music person -- who has a song in the trailer, the third song, and is very into electronic music but not in an edm way, in a way i'd have to use google for like ~30mins to describe

lead actress -- is a manager at cinefamily which is a great los angeles theater that well for example werner herzog was there last friday for nosferatu in german, and i was most excited because she was in wes craven's my soul to take

second actress -- also helped make wardrobe decisions and doesn't work in the entertainment industry, i just like her vibe and she's irl interesting

actor -- was in was crave's my soul to take with the lead actress
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Drenk on May 21, 2014, 06:56:23 AM
I've seen it and liked it a lot, it's messy in a good way, in a way where the mess is a coherent form. We talk a lot about album movies here, and this short is, in my opinion, an album short. I liked the fact that, even if it's an important trip for the character, what happens is simple. "Of course I miss her. A little." This trip is a little great time for her. It's important to capture the little sometimes.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: SailorOfTheSeas on May 21, 2014, 10:07:11 AM
dude from just watching the trailer, that looks wonderful. can't wait
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: SailorOfTheSeas on May 21, 2014, 10:12:57 AM
What's the song in the trailer if u dont mind me asking?
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 21, 2014, 12:37:26 PM
oh i just get all excited and everything. thanks

no one has sent me a pm asking to see the short and not been replied to with the info, btw

songs:
1 ponytail -- 7 souls
2 blackblack -- sophia
3 we made this™
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Cloudy on May 21, 2014, 04:31:28 PM
You took us to your LA, and I really feel like I know these people and I've been to these places (in a way that you made your memories and moments feel like mine)...it's so great how the first short you shared with us you took us here, where you always-always talk about--gem city.

:bravo:...it's a great kind of bonkers knowing we have honest souls/talent who really give a shit, rolling around in this place.

Also everything Drenk said*
*I wish the end-titles went on longer...
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 22, 2014, 01:45:06 PM
well, we thought of it as like a forty-year tradition, you know (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9HXcsE0gI8), and we originally said we wanted to imagine if godard and eisenstein met in an aol chatroom. thanks for bringing up the intertitles. they were made by our friend who owns a cassette label and works in graphic design, for example she made:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXP1LWpX.jpg&hash=694e70c61a26043fd133d29bff21735741dcaaa4)

you sound nice, and i want to see your full response, but i don't like your intrigue. oh i'l pm the data to anyone who asks, i bet
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: max from fearless on May 24, 2014, 08:00:08 AM
Yo Jenkins! Some thoughts on your movie below, thank you so much for sharing:

Loved the 'radio dial' tone of the movie (carrying on the from trailer) shifting from one mood (pop song) to another: variations on sensation, memories, recollections, movement and the taking in of mood itself...

Importance of light (city lights in the distance. shop lights, street ambiance) the glittering, shining self as Lucinella lies, basking in a glow of being elsewhere with her (best?) friend as the camera pushes in on her. What were your thoughts on lights for the movie?

This is one movie moment after another movie moment. Is this movie a mixtape of movie moments? Sewn together to make an LA patchwork quilt? I love the rock dance followed by that music note or bell transition to her in the pool.

Lucinella watches a lot and takes it all in, how much does she act? - on Tao's nice comments or responding to lore's ideas of reflecting on the past or being in a mood. One of the beautiful things about vacations is letting all these new thoughts, notions, sounds, songs, sensations, tastes and feelings and then scrambling, rewinding or skipping through them later on and making stuff bigger and smaller than it actually was....Her passivity or reflective nature is such a cool vibe for the movie to surf on.

Two (female) friends traveling through a city, (Jenkins have you seen Rivette's "Le Pont Du Nord"? if not check it out an incredible and strange friendship movie with a conspiracy movie hidden inside it) Lucinella walking, her point of view, i kept thinking to myself what would Lore say? think? i want a sequel of the same holiday from lore's point of view!

Those silent moments of Lore looking uncomfortable, not quite fitting in and then these lovely moments of her just looking at her friend on the feris wheel; is that look their friendship/love? Is Lucinella so self-involved  (living in her own fantasy LA movie musical, dancing like Anna Karina and Jean Luc Belmondo in A Woman is a Woman) to see or feel Lore's, I dunno, sadness or melancholy or reflective mood? Love the line when Lore says she sorry she was in a bad mood and Lucinella doesn't know what she's referring too...

The punchy rhythm at the start, click click click, ping! Grabs you by the throat nicely and the camera turning into like a cell phone camera (?) at the end, grabs you by the throat again and gives us this lovely homemade feeling and that little whip pan where we're looking back at the airport and then WHIPPP back into the car, took me to "Wise Blood/Punch-drunk Love" and reinforced this strange, bittersweet vibe before the credits, which were also dope.

I liked the movie Jenkins, it's it's own thing with this lovely, rough and tumble, point of view and it's sweet, fun and delicious with some melancholy undertones as well. Congratulations, this is real good and definitely put more juice in my creative engines! Keep rocking and props to you and the whole cast and crew!
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 24, 2014, 12:02:11 PM
butterflies in my stomach :)

with this, as with me and most movies, i avoid anchoring my thoughts to the meaning, as in i avoid being the arbiter of meaning. i trust the audience. as there are pta people here, i hope you know what i mean. a french person, paul virilio, gave the wonderful description that the field of battle is a field of perception

Quote from: max from fearless on May 24, 2014, 08:00:08 AM
What were your thoughts on lights for the movie?

lights are like visual music to me. mood. very moody about my lights. irl i often say: the two titles i most wish were mine are the book been down so long it looks like up to me and the movie rebels of the neon god

QuoteIs this movie a mixtape of movie moments? Sewn together to make an LA patchwork quilt?

oh for sure. i'm a person who can't get over a massive crash on montages

QuoteLucinella watches a lot and takes it all in, how much does she act? - on Tao's nice comments or responding to lore's ideas of reflecting on the past or being in a mood. One of the beautiful things about vacations is letting all these new thoughts, notions, sounds, songs, sensations, tastes and feelings and then scrambling, rewinding or skipping through them later on and making stuff bigger and smaller than it actually was....Her passivity or reflective nature is such a cool vibe for the movie to surf on.

consider that a question with the answer <3

Quote(Jenkins have you seen Rivette's "Le Pont Du Nord"? if not check it out an incredible and strange friendship movie with a conspiracy movie hidden inside it)

mm, sounds delicious, thanks! that one is unseen by me. thoughts of celine and julie were with us

thank you. thanks everyone, truly. didn't make this for myself, you know

all the ideas that came into making the short aren't more important to me than the ideas you have when you see it. what does the short mean? it means what you feel when you watch it. that's my overall intention. and lord help me if you can't have a feeling while you watch gooses
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: 03 on May 25, 2014, 04:48:25 PM
AHEM WHY HAVE I NOT SEEN THIS YET
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 25, 2014, 05:42:33 PM
encourage you and others to send me a pm if you'd like to see it. i've been ecstatic about the request and haven't shot anyone down. i sent the info to freddie, who someone might guess i wouldn't send the info to, but i did, and i haven't regretted that
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on May 25, 2014, 10:17:54 PM
This was actually kind of amazing. It does seem to be straight from your brain.

The short's strength is definitely the narration. The language is appropriately simple and childlike at key moments. That really worked for me for some reason... I think you're extracting meaning from the scenes in interesting ways. It's rare for narration to be this quirky while somehow not being pretentious.

Overall it was very enjoyable, and I kind of wanted it to be longer.

Only thing I might change is that clip of Lucinella lazily dancing in the street like a free spirit at the beginning. I was ready to loathe her at that moment. She won me back of course, but still I feel like that's too much too soon.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 26, 2014, 03:57:34 PM
trivia about gooses:

-- a logo was used in place of an opening title, one with two gooses in the position and approximate style of an apple, as to say the film opens in a way similar to how an iphone turns on

-- the first shot, of lucinella's out-of-focus face, is also the first shot of roger avary's the rules of attraction, which movie's v.o. was an influential reference, and which movie's vacation montage was also a point of reference (along with sans soleil)

-- the photo of a cat eating pizza was sent by a friend, and that cat was purchased by me for the friend one past year as a christmas present. the cat is named tsukamoto after the japanese filmmaker. the cat is often called tsuki, although, and this is strange, because the cat is female and has a name, i often and for inexplicable reasons call the cat "ronald"

-- it feels emotionally better for me when lucinella dancing in the alley isn't accused of being grabbed from terrence malick, because it wasn't an intential grab, although afterward it seemed kinda obvious why that particular shot was in mind. really it's taken more from wong kar-wai, as evident by the speed of the shot, but it doesn't even look like a wong kar-wai shot, it's just a shot that through a variety of influences became its own shot

-- "Got the other days off." is spoken by lore and her lips were shot on an iphone. one might say it's a philosophical antecedent to the nature of the short

-- no one has ever said a thing about the color of lucinella's dress changing, and oh it was deliberate oh yes it was, all those shots were made the same day and the dress was changed for that particular shot to evoke a certain mood, which could maybe be easily described as lucinella becoming a red velvet popper for a moment

-- during the "I felt wonderful" shot, lucinella is holding the novella lucinella by lore segal. seems clear that names were taken from the novella

-- the first shot of lore out-of-focus in the car was very much inspired by shots of vincent gallo in the brown bunny

-- because there's no way the production could afford to license the names in lights on hollywood blvd, the crew simply drove around hollywood blvd on a saturday night with the background out of focus. the crew wanted the lights so they found a way to get them. subfact: a shot of lore has grauman's chinese theatre in the background

-- the two hollywood stars of fame used: tod browning and fay wray

-- that honestly is a bar that charles bukowski went to, google told me, and also they here and there have bukowski nights. he lived about a block up from the bar and hollywood blvd. subfact: the photo of bukowski has bukowski, a female, a cat, a glass of wine, and on bukowski's wall bukowski has a photo of bukowski. this photo was selected from a variety of photos as the most ideal photo of bukowski

-- the alley shot was in the alley behind my apartment, where during "bad days" i would drink in just that way

-- the glass chimes in lore's apartment are there because the crew really cherishes the glass chimes in kieslowski's blue

-- "A girl lives on the tongue of a blue whale." was brought up on set with the question of whether or not a blue whale actually has a tongue. not sure if anyone has yet googled whether or not a blue whale has a tongue. google wasn't used. elliott gould was used, from his line in california split, when he makes a person feel better by telling her things like "The tongue of the great blue whale weighs more than a full-grown African elephant."

-- the hardcore-music dance scene was used for a love of dance scenes, and for a love of having the audience wonder what just happened. it's a tricky-to-like scene. a personal favorite (along with every other scene)

-- steve, who is barely in the short and people who know steve often watch the short and see his name in the credits and ask where steve was in the short, was renting a room in the laurel canyon house that was shot and described as such. one time i visited steve and we freebased hash hoil, which experience felt like how lucinella describes

--  really proud of: the floorlamp that's shaped like a donkey

-- a person once told me she wished she could quantum leap inside my body, and i still consider that one of the loveliest things anyone has ever said to me

-- really proud of: the shot before the iphone shot, which shot i think erases the potential "secrecy" of using the iphone and creates an appreciable blend

-- the car drive to lax was shot while driving to lax

-- lax was shot with an iphone as a single-take. one can notice: a cop pulls up during the scene, the nearest doors were closed for repair so lucinella keeps walking. one cannot notice: originally it was going to be tao with the iphone, but we didn't have the actor that day, so the dp was pretending to be tao, and anyway i like how it works even without thinking that's tao using the iphone

-- really wanted a superimposition of lucinella kissing a building toward the end, and such a scene was crafted, but it didn't end up being used
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: max from fearless on May 27, 2014, 03:24:53 AM
Loved the trivia notes, so thanks for those and no way was the dance scene Malick like, the way the camera moves with/towards Lucinella just gives it this whole other vibe and I cannot stop thinking of Anna Karina pulling off moves with Jean-Paul Belmondo in the alley in A Woman is A Woman, that playful energy as opposed to the thing that Malick does. I also really dug the group monster orgy dance scene, it felt like an epic palette cleanser, a chance to just get real aggressive and chaotic and shake everything off, before jumping into the hot tub romance. So yeah, I loved the dance scenes and wanna see your next musical...
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Post by: Alexandro on May 31, 2014, 10:23:30 AM
I saw it. Really don't have much to say. It is perfect, I loved every minute. I've seen many videos/shorts with girl leads having a good time and recounting poetically in voice over, and it usually pisses me off, yet here I fell for it instantly, it just never feels false and you get sucked in. Loved the look and the credits too.
Congratulations!
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Just Withnail on June 02, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
My slightly revised part of a correspondence I had with jenkins earlier:

Just watched the short you sent and liked it a lot! Extremely moody. The honesty of the voice over was very effective - and I think this could have been pushed even further. As it is there's a refreshing lack of drama for the most of it, but at the same time it feels like there could have been a bit more at stake near the end. More of the sisters pain and more of the distance and brutal honesty Lucinella has in her narration. But the lightness is very contagious and feels LA (I say having just briefly been there).

I love the unforced, jumpy-yet-unhurried editing. The reliance on camera moves and kinetic energy for emotion (like the track in and tilt down from the building to the back of the girl taking the photo: "I didn't"). The constant switch of moods. It's poetic without being pretentious.

It's not often I think this about a short - but longer, please! Longer and a little bit more at stake (maybe), so I get to know the characters a little bit more. The sister's pain man, that is something very effective going on there, I'd like to know more (not necessarily in bio details, but just...more).

And the end credits are fantastic! over all it looks great. fantastic with a form that allows you to jump seamlessly into a mobile phone shot. great and surprising moment when she hugs the camera.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on October 06, 2014, 12:50:42 PM
gooses will be on nobudge tuesday october 21

http://nobudge.com/upcomingfilms/2014/10/21/gooses

it took me a second to realize that to watch the trailer you click the screencap

xixax, you could've watched the trailer at the thread's beginning, and messages happened regarding the short. it means something to me that you could already know my secrets

reminder: matt35mm's it felt good to have this pain and jg's the confabulators are on nobudge, the site is run by kentucker audley who was an actor in ghostboy's atbs, and i'm glad nobudge exists as a community place. i watch shorts and features there on a regular basis. i'm glad sun don't shine comes after gooses. i'm imagining gooses as sun don't shine's b-movie. i'm glad this is happening for various reasons obvious and not obvious

for me it's an internet version of an irl film festival. and i like the festival's taste. and everyone else here at the festival seems nice and we can talk about things and relate to each other and basically i hope i form a cosmic link with everyone who sees gooses. that's basically true xx
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Axolotl on October 21, 2014, 01:53:08 PM
Since jenkins is being all modest. It's up-

http://nobudge.com/main/2014/10/21/online-premiere-gooses
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on October 21, 2014, 02:22:42 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwQ2UTzJ.jpg&hash=145750f9a3b48fc8bea1b814372da1083e1ce2a8)

kentucker's synopsis, which i'd been looking forward to since i heard about this:

QuoteLucinella, an openhearted 20-something, visits her dour sister, Lore, in L.A, and we see the weekend as a narrated montage, kinetic & full of spot-on details of how trips like this go. The first day the younger sister, Lucinella, spends alone - eating red velvet poppers and trying to act casual on Beverly Blvd - but Lore takes off the other days from her job at CVS and once she's around, the nature of the vacay shifts. Lore is more at home plodding around pointing at bars that Bukowski liked to drink at, and having mellow conversations, than Lucinella's preference of prancing around imagining the world as a dream. There's a great deal of truth in Gooses about people of a particular age, about the differences between sisters, how those differences play out, at beaches for instance. Lore is the type that never looks comfortable at the beach, and Lucinella considers it a "tragedy of [her] existence." Behind all the free-wheeling (Lucinella calls Lore her spirit animal), she has some harsh judgement for her jaded older sister, which adds some heaviness to what we imagined might simply be a fantasy L.A. vacation slide-show. It strikes quick but, by the end, we're allowed to breath in some poignant real-time moments. A cool little short film, I'm looking forward to seeing new work from co-directors Shawn Sullivan and Joe Peeler. Thrilled to present the short film as an Online Premiere. (8 minutes)

it's quite obvious that i put personal emotions into this. i consider it something like a movie version of a chapbook.

today i feel excited, i do, it warms me to have friends watching it and sharing it. i mean this all the way -- and today i'm too emotional to carpet my excitement, which ok that's my normal day but now i'm related to its cause -- it means a lot to me when you watch it, which i hope you do, and i'd like to hear back from you about that but i don't have to

people who aren't me or my best friends or a member of the crew: the numbers game is the adult thing happening here, and if you like it and feel it and you want to share it with your friends, please do, please facebook it or tumblr it or whatever it wherever. i did try to make a short that i thought friends could share with friends without shame. and i very much thought about how it'd feel to watch this on a phone or tablet or etc. i've watched it on my phone many times. like it no matter how i see it and i hope you do too
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Post by: polkablues on October 21, 2014, 04:30:04 PM
It was beautiful and it was sincere, which are the two biggest compliments I can think to give a film.

Really, really wonderful work. I'm looking forward to whatever comes next.
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Post by: jenkins on October 23, 2014, 12:10:03 PM
QuoteYou know the best way to fall in love again with your city? Invite a friend to visit and see it anew through their eyes. Despite the truth of that statement, however, I can't say that's exactly what happens in Gooses, a lovely short film by directors Shawn Sullivan and Joe Peeler. Lucinella visits her "spirit animal" (actually, her sister Lore) in Los Angeles, and her trip is both an impressionistic journey through the sights of L.A. as well as a more nuanced tale of sibling rediscovery.

Gooses, which premiered on NoBudge and stars Zena Gray and Katy Knowlton, is excerpted from the second act of a feature screenplay that Sullivan and Peeler are developing. Writes Peeler, "Gooses is my first step toward Gem City, a feature film about a young woman in a quest across America, cyberspace and her own dreamscape to answer the question: 'What is my life if not the story I tell of it?'"

http://filmmakermagazine.com/88046-short-film-gooses-directed-by-shawn-sullivan-and-joe-peeler/#.VEk1z-29LCQ

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Post by: Just Withnail on October 24, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
Quote from: Just Withnail on June 02, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
It's not often I think this about a short - but longer, please!

Quote from: Filmmaker Magazine
QuoteGooses, which premiered on NoBudge and stars Zena Gray and Katy Knowlton, is excerpted from the second act of a feature screenplay that Sullivan and Peeler are developing. Writes Peeler, "Gooses is my first step toward Gem City, a feature film about a young woman in a quest across America, cyberspace and her own dreamscape to answer the question: 'What is my life if not the story I tell of it?'"

Woo!

I just watched this again and I swear I can taste the fucking colors. This is so infectious in it's energy and I can't wait to see the feature.
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Post by: jenkins on October 24, 2014, 02:49:48 PM
http://vimeo.com/channels/staffpicks

the vimeo staff pick is of course a thing we truly wanted. 300 views from it after a minute
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Post by: Cloudy on October 24, 2014, 04:05:55 PM
I watched again (and again and again), and my reaction is this:

Quote from: Just Withnail on October 24, 2014, 09:41:45 AM
Quote from: Just Withnail on June 02, 2014, 07:13:00 AM
It's not often I think this about a short - but longer, please!
Woo!
I just watched this again and I swear I can taste the fucking colors. This is so infectious in it's energy and I can't wait to see the feature.

Curious, If it's on Vimeo, (Vimeo Staff PicK!) that means you won't be taking this to festivals am I right? The nature of this piece feels like it can jive on the internet, but without lacking any of the integrity that most shorts have when they do. That shot when it goes from "cinema camera" to iPhone really just says it all (that sounds too overt, but it's really not). I think this is gonna get a lot of love, like it is already in our little corner of the shoebox... really happy and excited for you!
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Post by: jenkins on October 24, 2014, 04:11:48 PM
awww, so happy to hear that. it's my hope. we didn't ignore the festivals, the festivals ignored us, but now people are reaching back to us. it's like when you get some money and your family calls you. a little like that except, it's not family, it's business, and we're stoked, and what we want is to be moving forward. i hope this is a step
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Post by: max from fearless on October 24, 2014, 05:20:24 PM
This is awesome jenkins. Just wanted to say that, friends I've shared gooses with, have got back to me to tell me that they love the movie...I watched "listen up philip" this week and it totally depressed me (i've not disliked a film like this in a while) and i watched "gooses" on my mobile and it got me out of that mood, especially the shot of lore talking to camera/her sister, that shot rescued my mood.
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Post by: jenkins on October 27, 2014, 01:26:47 AM
thanks to support from those who provided it, thanks to those who thought this sounded kinda interesting maybe, and if you've read this far consider yourself thanked whether you gave a shit or not. who'll give a shit? that's the question for our interminable future. i think we hit the ceiling for this release's potential

sun don't shine (http://nobudge.com/main/2014/10/27/special-screening-sun-dont-shine) opened for a 1 day screening (10/27). nobudge's site runner kentucker audley is an actor in it. it's a good acting group, i consider kentucker "big name" because he's emotionally important to me, and kate lyn sheil full-time shreds. it was written/directed by amy seimetz. david fucking lowery was the final editor since, as siemetz says, he was "one of the only people I trusted." i call that the lowery touch. shane carruth created the end credits, and there's a little direct harmony between sun don't shine and gooses via their nobudge interview (http://nobudge.com/main/2014/10/27/special-screening-sun-dont-shine):

Quote4. Do you know what credits are?

Yes. Ethan Clarke animated the title card along with Sonja Hernandez, who also designed my poster. You (Shane) did my end credits. We both discussed how we don't like opening credits. They are very distracting to the narrative for us.

i'll be goddamned if i how i agree about this particular and esoteric matter isn't demonstrated in gooses. i also think there are indirect harmonies

i now consider gooses theatrically closed but, if you haven't watched it please do. the numbers are already in. this is a pure person-to-person moment here

a fun idea, because i just think you really gotta watch sun don't shine if you haven't already (or again if you have): consider gooses the opening cartoon to the day's who framed roger rabbit
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: N on October 27, 2014, 06:35:44 AM
Wow that's cool Jenkins. I had been planning to watch Sun Don't Shine for a while, this way I was able to watch it legally without spending heaps on getting a dvd shipped to me. I really enjoyed it despite having absolutely no idea what it means. As always, I'd like to say more about it. But I think it's best to let it sink in for a while. Thanks for sharing it anyways. I think I'm gonna visit nobudge a lot more now.

Oh, and good luck with your future work. Can't wait to watch whatever you guys make next.
In regards to your short film and feature and stuff.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Just Withnail on October 28, 2014, 01:32:00 PM
Quote from: jenkins<3 on October 27, 2014, 01:26:47 AM

Quote4. Do you know what credits are?

Yes. Ethan Clarke animated the title card along with Sonja Hernandez, who also designed my poster. You (Shane) did my end credits. We both discussed how we don't like opening credits. They are very distracting to the narrative for us.

i'll be goddamned if i how i agree about this particular and esoteric matter isn't demonstrated in gooses. i also think there are indirect harmonies


This this, forever this! Being thrown right into a film is so much better than having to watch the names of the puppet masters before the show starts. "LOOK WE MADE THIS UP!"
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: polkablues on October 28, 2014, 02:42:41 PM
On Last Rescue we had contractual obligations to have credits at the beginning. After trying to sprinkle them in throughout the opening sequence and hating what it did to the pacing, we decided the lesser evil was to create an opening titles sequence that runs before the movie proper starts. At least that way people can fast-forward through it.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: pete on November 02, 2014, 11:07:50 PM
Quote from: jenkins<3 on October 27, 2014, 01:26:47 AM

Quote4. Do you know what credits are?

Yes. Ethan Clarke animated the title card along with Sonja Hernandez, who also designed my poster. You (Shane) did my end credits. We both discussed how we don't like opening credits. They are very distracting to the narrative for us.

i'll be goddamned if i how i agree about this particular and esoteric matter isn't demonstrated in gooses. i also think there are indirect harmonies


that's crazy. I know Ethan Clarke and Sonja. We used to kick it when i was just an aspiring filmmaker and they were hanging out with a guy named Jenkins. Barry Jenkins.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on January 03, 2015, 01:32:35 AM
last year we wrote a poetry book we called frank zappa & barry manilow
that was fun and we didn't do anything with it
we just think it's a good start to the year by making a poetry book together
last year's we made by jan 1 2014
this year we finished on jan 2 because last night we decided to see the poseidon adventure and beyond the poseidon adventure instead of finishing
i think parts of me from here are in it
parts of me from life are in it
i'm pretty bleak overall i guess
morgan likes city life as much as i do
we have common angles of vision
and i forgive him and myself for our mistakes
because finishing it to start the year is the goal, that's really the only goal
i uploaded it to scribd and here's that:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/251559895/untitled

gooses won best editing at nobudge and we were fifth in highest viewings. i wanted more but my friends have reminded me how exciting that is. i guess this a toast to finishing things
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Axolotl on January 03, 2015, 02:07:54 AM
Assuming the lower case ones are yours, really liked some of them. The last part of the poem that ends with the beached submarine was beautiful. Appreciated the Anne Rice one.

Congrats on the nobudge thing!
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on July 06, 2015, 02:00:22 AM
It's already got an intro:

QuoteFlorianne, Alessandra's grandma, taught herself how to write by reading Louisa May Alcott's "Little Women". Through Alessandra sharing some of her poems on Instagram, Shawn left a comment asking her to work with him on this book.

Proud of it since of course I am:

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Not sure what'll happen with it. Not sure if it'll be published. People have begun to chat about publishing. Oh I'm such a bad adult. This is the third I've done like this. I encourage you in your lives to say "Well what's said by my friend the poet jenkins..." if you want to, which is a variation on a joke I've recently enjoyed making irl. I'm becoming much more comfortable at writing these poem things, and there's "a lot of me in this book." That's how one says that, right? "A lot of me in this book."

I think there are fun things to read since of course I do. Here's the full link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/270649330/H-O-M-E-G-R-O-W-N


Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: polkablues on July 06, 2015, 03:17:24 PM
Quote from: jenkins<3 on July 06, 2015, 02:00:22 AM
It's already got an intro:

QuoteFlorianne, Alessandra's grandma, taught herself how to write by reading Louisa May Alcott's "Little Women". Through Alessandra sharing some of her poems on Instagram, Shawn left a comment asking her to work with him on this book.

Proud of it since of course I am:

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Not sure what'll happen with it. Not sure if it'll be published. People have begun to chat about publishing. Oh I'm such a bad adult. This is the third I've done like this. I encourage you in your lives to say "Well what's said by my friend the poet jenkins..." if you want to, which is a variation on a joke I've recently enjoyed making irl. I'm becoming much more comfortable at writing these poem things, and there's "a lot of me in this book." That's how one says that, right? "A lot of me in this book."

I think there are fun things to read since of course I do. Here's the full link:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/270649330/H-O-M-E-G-R-O-W-N




Great, evocative cover. I've got the book open in another tab, I'll start reading through it when I have a few minutes.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 06, 2015, 03:28:19 PM
Is the "(unrelated)" thing a joke? If not, I'm confused about what it means.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on July 06, 2015, 03:35:34 PM
The first two names are obviously related to each other and now I'm explaining a bit of a joke, yes. JB! Outta town.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on October 18, 2015, 02:15:35 PM
the word is the actor, the syntax is the production design, the sentence is the shot, the paragraph is the scene, the chapter is the sequence, and the total thing is the movie.

which is how i'm hoping to demonstrate writing is radically different than shooting. nothing finalizes itself by chance on the page, and the entire world is controllable.

the differences between movies and words have been on my mind. a person has completely read a draft of my novella and several people are currently engaged in reading it. sharing it and writing it has opened me to new thoughts and feelings. most of them are frightening and one or two are motivational. the world of words, what a place.

i've always thought there was more to the world than literature, and now i realize that's more the world of literature than i'd previously considered. one friend tells me before my final draft i absolutely must read Frederick Exley's A Fan's Notes, which through synopsis alone i'm in:

QuoteThis fictional memoir, the first of an autobiographical trilogy, traces a self professed failure's nightmarish decent into the underside of American life and his resurrection to the wisdom that emerges from despair.

i hope none of my family members read my novella, and i hope no one sits me down and wants to have a chat, just a quick little chat about personal emotional motivation, after having read it. it's basically what it feels like to be me through my own words, as a character i'm writing, which is the type of writing i most like, and to me it's the closest literature can come to magic hour, i think magic hour in writing is when the richest colors of the person show, and my rich colors deal with loneliness and a lot of what i call bullshit.

crono, having read an early draft of beginning pages, has already reminded me that a writer doesn't have liberty with the reader from their own thoughts that give them personal excitement. which here in the end is indeed a narrative line i hope to smooth, it being an integral part of the narrative since most of my time i spend alone and with my thoughts. i also recently read, a year after buying it, Genie by Richard Powers, which is 43 pages (i don't sweat when people don't immediately finishing reading my novella when they have it), that story i enjoyed and it brought me to Thoughts in Solitude, which i'm not sure i'll read but i like the sound of it:

QuoteThe death by which we enter into life is not an escape from reality but a complete gift of ourselves which involves a total commitment to reality.

there's such a danger to focusing the narrative on one lone person thinking about whatever the person thinks about. but i can't regret writing this the same as i can't regret living this. i think/hope in later days it'll be an obvious transitional piece of writing for me, i hope others can read it now and remember it in small ways if so, it does describe how i live now and my plan for the future is to write another based on days that'll occur in December, which days now i don't know what they'll be but i hope other people are involved.

the cover is being made by the person who made this:

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except the cover will be much different but i'm excited she'll make the cover.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: wilder on October 18, 2015, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: jenkins<3 on October 18, 2015, 02:15:35 PM
one friend tells me before my final draft i absolutely must read Frederick Exley's A Fan's Notes

yes yes yes! I love this book. A reference to it in relation to your own work seems like a compliment in itself.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on October 30, 2015, 10:52:49 PM
it's the evening before Halloween and i'm editing the novella. this is its current status:

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the fun thing to spot (imo), outside the number thirteen, an accident i like and will consider a Halloween gift from fate, but the fun point here is 101 pages is an acceptable length for a feature-length screenplay, though here the page count refers to a novella's acceptable length. the dissimilarities between the two forms obvious, my mind enjoys tracing their similarities.

it's supposedly in its full third draft, since i called the last draft the second, but based on how changes are happening i'd say it's more like this is the second draft. it having reached the wordcount goal has and does excites me tremendously, but it's a bit like B.I.G. said, the more words we come across the more problems we see. no one i've shared pages with has discouraged me from continuing to write, which i find encouraging, that sounds logical, and two people even read the whole thing. hell yeah.

i can share the next complete draft with you if you ask me to, if you want to read it at some point and want a peek at the process. certainly i'll openly share it once it's finalized. i'll hope for interest though i've lived long enough to expect nothing.

in the past six months i've thought about epigraphs way more than i ever did before. it took me like two months to concretely remember they're called epigraphs not epigrams. maybe in the future i won't use an epigraph at all. i might use a dedication instead. i don't desire to use both at once. maybe i'll finish this novella and write another. i don't fucking know. the point here is the epigraphs as they are: at various times there were two or one, i chose three, since i've come to love these three such that i can't leave them. this page will make it to the end, it'll be the first page. i'll share it now, for the sake of sharing and whatnot:

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crono told me about Tavares btw, and Valéry refers to another writer. happy Halloween. it's maybe Two Dollar Radio who's convinced everyone Garamond is the best reading font.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Garam on October 31, 2015, 09:20:11 AM
Quote from: jenkins<3 on October 30, 2015, 10:52:49 PM
it's maybe Two Dollar Radio who's convinced everyone Garamond is the best reading font.

100% agree
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on December 04, 2015, 06:39:03 PM
i'm not going to make a book trailer. i wish right now i could go make a short, and at the end of it the team agrees to mention Larry Angeles (the title), but i'm not going to make a book trailer because like everyone i have to measure outrageousness against time.

there could be a fascinating trailer of straight context clues. as Jarmusch has said:

QuoteNothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don't bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: "It's not where you take things from - it's where you take them to."

that quote is Godard good and he knows it. bless.

today i had to look into:

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because that's an example of an epigraph i read and from which i actually stole and needed to remember the specifics of:

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that could be mentioned in the trailer kidding not kidding kidding i'm not making the trailer.

some of Larry Angeles reads like aphorisms.

aphorisms were a thing on my mind during the writing. Hippocrates, Greek, he called it. he said "Ars longa, vita brevis." he said "Life is short, art long, opportunity fleeting, experience deceptive, judgement difficult." the Greeks hit everything out of the park when they went to bat, that's a thing artists have to accept. Larry Angeles quotes a person speaking an aphorism, "Our days are long, our years are short," and now i'll share with xixax a quote from Larry Angeles:

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looking both ways before i crossed the street, i already google searched it and that seems like a solid original. except it strikes me as obvious enough that i suspect it to exist elsewhere. also in Larry Angeles i mentioned the character as a paranoid person. i'd say he's quite realistic.

i don't expect there to be much interest here when i share Larry Angeles, which is nearing its final-final draft, and the cover should be on its way to me shortly, but i do look forward to the people whom i suspect might give it a go indeed giving it go.

i think it'll be worth it but i guess of course i do. people who've read it have been positive in specific ways i attribute to the text.

then i'll end this post by quoting Jay Z, which i don't do in Larry Angeles, but that's too bad, really, in my opinion:

QuoteWhoever said illegal was the easy way out
couldn't understand the mechanics
and the workings of the underworld,
granted
nine to five is how you survive
I ain't trying to survive
I'm trying to
live it to the limit
and
love it a lot
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on January 02, 2016, 01:29:29 PM
"i'll be sharing" should probably be my Personal Text. this year Morgan and i finished our third poetry book. here i've mentioned before that what we do is we finish our poetry book by January 1, so that we feel good and strong going into our year. like, now someone asks me, "Hey it's January 2, what the hell have you done so far this year?" then i look the person in the eyes and say, "I finished my poetry book," and i feel satisfied. that's our working theory.

Morgan chose the title this year, and i like it. it's a classic greek word that translates into "don't be depressed." ancient people also thought it was maybe better not to be depressed. here's the working cover:

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you can me pm if you want to read it, but sharing poems is weird i guess. unfortunately i don't think people walk around searching for poems to read. shout out to those who have read previous books <3.

it's cool because we have a plan this year. now that this is our third time completing a poetry book, we've decided to self-publish each as a chapbook, and sell them in notable independent los angeles book stores. this will be an adult world maneuver on our part. we're very much looking forward to it and moving forward with plans of implementation. we didn't deliberately wait to do this, but i think the advantage now is three of these chapbooks (each with a photo of us on the cover) will be on the shelf in the store. we'll appear as if we've already been around. i think that's a good feeling to give a person who's considering a purchase.

and regardless, it'll install us in the cultural fabric of word land. no one asked for us, but there we'll be. we like how we currently feel.

best wishes to you and your own new year, by the way, xx.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on February 11, 2016, 11:58:35 PM
the above cover looks like that and there are two more poetry books in a series titled Annals of Los Angeles (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=series_rw_dp_labf?_encoding=UTF8&field-collection=Annals+of+Los+Angeles&url=search-alias%3Ddigital-text) and its complete set is available on Amazon. i'm a fan of all three because i wrote them with my friend. so, this crowd isn't being marketed, so that's not what's happening, because you can pm if you want 'em, and who reads poetry i mean seriously.

this is a celebration of a minor-moment for me being shared as a story to my internet friends. that's what's happening. you're too many sentences. so our first set of physical copies came in glossed covers without back covers. the interior spacing was scrutinized with agreement. it was very low-rate.

we were so excited to hold our poetry books, which we published for 'bout twenty through the internet, that we took them to the nearby bookstore. i was astonished by how familiar the bookstore was with people bringing books they want to sell. this was called a "submission" in this bookstore across from my apartment. morgan and i were there together. he brought up, "hey, we have two poetry books and we want to sell them," we signed our phone numbers on paper but didn't give our emails because accident. we hadn't talked about the books with the workers, who were mild-to-low interested in us being there. i wrote a single sentence on the paper that said ~, "These are our demos, which we intend to perfect, thanks," and a week later we haven't heard back about that. so that's bound to be a sadluck story of outrageous rookie behavior, which we attempted based on "if you try you might fail, and if you don't try you'll definitely fail," and we were excited and eager so we acted like kids but we're adults. that's not going to score in the adult world.

but, i wrote the line i wrote and it happened how it did because. morgan and i are because people. the original proofs were glossed and without backs, now they're matte and these are their backs:

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insert:

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this has more of the chapbook feeling that was the original intention, and matte is better than gloss for some reason i agree. the poems are now also paper formatted to fit within a tidy spatial framework, and there's the basics:

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we covered some basics this time around. better than the photo makes them look (mentioning). i simply used the wa font for the title page because that's what i've been taught to do. my idea is to show the bookstore these books when we pick up the demos we brought in. these are much more appealing. (we didn't hear back from the bookstore.) overall morgan and i have this philosophy that we aren't going to wait for someone to give us self-confidence. we already have it from having written our things. i forgot to mention Annals of Los Angeles was an impulsive name i gave them for categorization as a series, and they're sectioned into art annuals and social philosophy, though we considered some solid regional poetry topic, which we couldn't find after i'm sure i saw it, and anyway we don't buy poetry books.

the matte proofs arrived tonight. i texted photos to morgan, made this post, and there's a side-story i'm leaving out, the side-story is related to this barely batters btw, and good fucking look anything happens. so, by publishing on amazon we've flown some planes into the clouds. we don't have sales, and how they're going to come is a complete mystery to me. luckily i'm not in this for the money. after we check our proofs (which we'll do together), we'll sell the physical books on Amazon for $8.99. the ebook is $2.99. that's 2016 self-published. we'd want the proofs anyway, of course, so this'll cost us $30, from buying the right to say on amazon that these books are published by Neon Burrito Publishing instead of Createspace. That was worth $30. they conned me a bit, you ask me, since in the contract, for liability purposes, they expressed the fact that i'm the publisher. but the name buy was a soft con toward an overall feeling of a li'l accomplishment within this contemporary world.

but, that's what i'm saying, we're some planes in the clouds, who cares. no one cares. i feel glad we're at cruising altitude. we're going to take the new proofs to three other bookstores in this area. we have Martin O'Malley odds of success from where we've been. that's the type of guess i make about these things. and this story was embarrassing when it entered into paragraphs. it's solid if you (reader) made it to here, it's solid if you skipped to the end, and it's this silly message board that's actually filled with people who act like a message board, this is when i mention acting like annual art poetry book here. alright.

[in the next episode i publish my novella through the same route described.]
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on March 14, 2016, 02:20:52 AM
at one point i thought here i'd write out the story of putting together Neon Burrito Publishing. but now short and sweet is on my mind.

the three poetry books were collected together into:

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you click the book you head to amazon. colored spines was a technique installed here. the back cover is a collage i made and which shoutbox chatted me through one afternoon. on amazon you can see the back cover.

"big news" for me is my novella is available as a physical book:

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i didn't make it available as an ebook because physical is better. it's better to hold the book you're reading.

this is the synopsis i gave amazon:

QuoteLarry, Los Angeles, two thousand fifteen. That and everything else.

How he really is is how he's written. Where he really lives is on the page.

For fans of movie stunts and pickle jars.

i got the marketing on lock down (pray for me). there's a quote on the back cover -- after writing the book i found myself often recalling its final phrase, so i slapped it on the back.

i already made back the $60 it cost for me to set up Neon Burrito. that feels nice because it's definitely not money on my mind. i had to buy ISBNs, they're each $10, that does indeed mean another book is on its way. its proof arrives tomorrow. the poetry books are 5" x 8", the novella is 6" x 9", this will be an 8.5" x 11". it'll be titled My Autobiography Is My Manifesto: Volume One. i want it to read big and easy like a kid's book.

with the books published, our next plan is a marketing triad. there will be flyers. bookmarks. pamphlets. Morgan mentioned doing a reading. i already feel great as a writer, it's a matter now of people feeling great as readers.

who the readers are here i'm not sure. i'll assume everyone and no one. i'm proud of Larry Angeles and it's worth reading, i'll tell the readers. it's a memoir that uses the filtration device of third person. what litworld calls autofiction. which i love reading. and you write what you would read, you know.

non-readers don't worry, we're both mostly curious and partly terrified. general positive vibes aren't like equal to a read but close enough.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: wilder on March 14, 2016, 04:41:42 PM
Ordered Larry Angeles. Super excited.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on March 15, 2016, 03:44:25 PM
an addendum on Larry Angeles:

a common strategy within the book, without being named Xixax is mentioned, leading into the same for Axolotl. who's also described, once quoted, once paraphrased, and there's almost an abrupt aside wherein i explain that axo makes me feel less alone in the world from a fundamental perspective.

being in the book, axo has read it. he said only nice things. which means a lot to me, and within the personal meaning i find from hearing people respond to the book there's the category of accomplishment felt from the nice things the book causes people to say.

as in, this, from a reader friend, has been the fullest response to the book, and what i'm saying is i like not only that he says nice things, but the nice things the book inspires him to say:

Quote... It's rare to read pages and character so painfully rich with interior detail that also have an incredible forward momentum. I flew through this thing and plan on starting it again this weekend, slowly and more deliberate. There's really nothing about it I don't like. You've written something so honest I feel as if it's really invulnerable to criticism anyway and probably the only thing worth critiquing is honesty. I don't know how you did it, but it feels like you were able to peel away layers of existence in a way most of us (other aspirational types) dream/wish/pretend/lie about.

There are so many sentences that inspire me. The prose feels so delicate and deliberately chosen. Even your sentences that don't contain wonderful thoughts or strange realities are a joy to read owing to rearrangement and consideration of verb/subject/preposition/punctuation placement (or perhaps you've become a word musician playing like a soloist in a bebop band)

It's sad and funny like all good things, like life itself.

I relate to Larry very much which is possibly an illusion, but also a testament to how fully formed he is.

i'm choosing to say, to help or hurt myself, that Larry Angeles is pure prose. this wasn't writing for the page for the screen, and i find it challenging to imagine the movie form of this book.

this was possible because the conceptual rhythm is emotion. the outside world isn't ignored at all, but the sensation of it is being created by interior prose. this is a way do things, and a narrative history of this comes from The Bell Jar, Good Morning Midnight, Bonjour Tristesse, which became a Preminger movie, so let me close with another great example: Breakfast at Tiffany's. Blake Edwards directed the movie version, written by George Axelrod, starring Audrey Hepburn. that's Hollywood's finest. that's a movie worth watching. but, and this is when words and movies weren't seeing eye-to-eye, because loving reading causes you to love words differently, and people were reading back then, point is the movie can't touch Truman Capote's prose. it can glance at it. it can suggest it. it can bring music, colors, lights, etc. the movie can summon but it can't touch the prose.

the reality of certain prose is between the reader and the page. it's another way of thinking about how you're writing. it can be another way of thinking about how you're reading. Larry Angeles is mostly unlike the other books i mentioned, and movie stunts and pickle jars aren't even mentioned, by the way.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: wilder on March 15, 2016, 07:29:48 PM
This book looks great in-person:

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It reminds me of Denis Johnson's 'The Incognito Lounge'

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Post by: jenkins on March 15, 2016, 07:36:47 PM
 :inlove:
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Post by: wilder on March 16, 2016, 04:38:57 PM
I only intended to start Larry Angeles last night, but your novella swallowed me whole and struck nerves I didn't want struck but couldn't shy away from. It was relatable in the best and worst ways, as truth should be, and you've got a reader for life here if you decide to deliver more prose. There are so many passages I want to quote, that do such a justice to the fragmental nature of thought process without ever feeling like forced imitation. Maybe I will, later. Human alligators.

Larry Angeles feels like Notes from the Underground for the modern age. The night I first read this is now an ingrained memory, a book whose ghost and impression I'll carry with me like Less Than Zero, Notes from the Underground (of course), The Year of Magical Thinking, What We Talk About When We Talk About Love, etc.

I've read Tao Lin's Shoplifting from American Apparel and tbh he should be the one visiting you at Skylight Books.

REVERSAL.

Everyone read this. This book deserves to be read widely and deeply, but it goes down like liquid because reading jenkins' voice is like listening to a friend you feel you've always had.
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Post by: Drenk on March 19, 2016, 05:29:08 PM
I bought your book, Jenkins. It was on Amazon.fr and it says I should receive it in a few days. The universe is big and powerful so I trust what the internet is saying to me. Anyway, it's on its way.
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Post by: jenkins on March 19, 2016, 07:00:10 PM
keeps me going (mean it), and i feel solid because i think you'll like it. essentially the book is the good fight, and if you know the good fight and you like to read we're meant to be friends.

you had a direct influence on the final epigraph. when i sent out a final draft to others there was what i thought and still think of as a fabulous Jean Baudrillard paragraph. about how it feels impossible to hold reality. but what's printed and makes me fully comfortable is a simple and elegant Diane Williams line, which you thought was the choice option back when i'd brought up epigraphs.

amazon being everywhere made this situation possible, and amazon has been a total chiller. they don't give me street cred, but i feel good about these books and, you know, they're for sale on amazon. this simply makes me feel cyberpunk af

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it's even for sale from another vendor, which trips me out. i mean, the books are printed by amazon. at amazon.com it's for sale from three other vendors. these are retailers connected into the amazon vendor system. Eudaimonia has sixteen vendors, including five listing as used, in both Like New and Very Good condition. they're going to have the books printed by amazon and sent to you, but you'll have to pay more. that's fascinating to me.

Morgan and i have initiated our flyer plan, toward hoping to find readers. this is in front of Canter's, there's also one in front of Supreme, The Hundreds, Purple Reign, Cinefamily, and other places around Fairfax and Melrose:

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Post by: Drenk on March 26, 2016, 05:27:39 PM
This isn't really a review of the book because I wouldn't know how to do that. Instead, I'm writing some things...

Autofiction is a delicate thing. And I'm interested in the difference between autobiography and fiction. What is autofiction, though? It's a way to share a specific moment of time with the writer. Maybe? I don't know. Larry Angeles made me feel like I was sharing a specific moment of time with the writer. As it is written, it couldn't have been written in another time. The book isn't about missed opportunities, but it is refreshing to realize that whatever you've never done what you're doing now and what's important to you now could only be possible now. I often think about that.

This is a novella about a novella being written, the experience of writing it. I don't like to say that books are about something, so why am I doing exactly what I don't like? Metafiction, like autofiction, can be tricky. Here it engages the reader (which here means: me).

This isn't a novella about a novella being written, it's about how words can be our own reality despite the fact that words/moods/feelings/thoughts aren't Reality, and Larry Angeles embodies this idea in a poetic way. The epigraph is great because it is a relevant door to the book. (What is an irrelevant door? Discuss.)

The writing is simple, powerful and unique, and I particularly enjoyed how paragraphs were used. These days, I often think about paragraphs. Albums have sequencing and books have paragraphs. I was hooked by the writing, then hooked by what was written.

Then, there is Larry. Our character. And if the function of art is to make people feel less alone, this book definitely made me feel less alone. Emotionally, I feel connected. And yet, I couldn't have written this particular book—and this is what is fascinating.

You should all read it. It's worth it.

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Post by: jenkins on March 26, 2016, 06:59:00 PM
human reality shakes the cocktail of introspection and meta and fiction itself, and i tried to write a book about that as me now. this is probably the most Charlie Kaufman i'll get, which is a movie reference to a book, which book makes movie references itself. movies are a thing, The Great Escape, Panahi's The Mirror and Beetlejuice in particular.

thanks Drenk xx. you're -- what's happening is you're making me wish i was born in France. i like how you get into cracking open its form! and i'm happy there's a form there.

my overall goal was to make it a pleasant read. straight up. a breezy autobiographical novella with poetic prose. my jam, in both reading and writing.

which goal is meant to encourage, enable the reader's own philosophical angles. with some philosophical angles mentioned in the book. but it's the not the philosophical angle that's the jam. it's the words.

and i simply like how it makes readers talk to me. simply do. i'll mention again thanks Drenk, and i'll mention wilder's post, which has a reading perspective calibrated toward a psychological interior. they're both there, form and interior, since it's interior as form.
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Post by: jenkins on March 28, 2016, 12:06:51 AM
Morgan has made the flyers. that's super solid of him because i haven't yet made a flyer, and it's not a talent of mine i've yet exposed (it might not be there?)

the one posted above basically steals the techniques of a pyramid scheme. get 'em from the gut. this next one was my idea, i'm lucky he made it, i provided the text, there's a Mustang reference in here, and on the streets this is called sass:

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within the intended plan, it's ok if you think that's terrible. again, i'm lucky i described it to Morgan and he made it. but the plan is to keep making flyers. more flyers = more types of flyers, and there are different types of people. i think with my above flyer i'm playing a wild card but it might pop if it hits. and it fits within familiarizing people with the name Neon Burrito Publishing.

Morgan made this one without asking me nothing and i think it's wonderful:

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Post by: jenkins on April 20, 2016, 02:59:09 AM
a few people in Automanifest i've contacted to inform them they're mentioned. that has gone well. three people from xixax are quoted on a back page that's just before the last page:

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this is the current last page, a synopsis page tucked in the back, and this remains hot in terms of i made that up to mean i might still edit this page in small ways sometimes big ways happens:

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Post by: Axolotl on April 20, 2016, 03:56:36 PM
Quote from: jenkins on April 20, 2016, 02:59:09 AM
xx
xx
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Post by: jenkins on May 17, 2016, 02:41:19 PM
here's the front/back cover,* you click it, you pay $13, POW.

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it's worth it. but here is our crossroad: this book is good, i know it because i wrote it, i wrote it because i like to read, but what good means and what reading means to you is up to you, so whether it's worthwhile or not is what i wait to hear from each reader.

and what's not helpful, since their job is in fact to be helpful, is i don't have a marketing team. i don't have a publisher. private passions wrote the book, then there's the biznes world, its jargon mostly unfamiliar to me, its words for other people's lives. my life, my words. recently Larry Angeles, which was a hit, and this is an 8.5x135pgx11inch Large Print book, i call it Automanifest for short, and it's the same but simply unlike your other books, this i can tell you.

it covers my life until age 21. page one:

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example of two pages together (digital proof):

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PTA reference:

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because i wanted to make a page like this, it follows the narrative:

(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNZr8mSY.png&hash=63add068473134fef315dbf782d0ecba6fc9548d) (http://www.amazon.com/dp/0692664769/)

* amazon is doing me wrong in terms of transferring my cover to the site, represented by the difference between the photo i chose and the photo on their site, referring to font color and pixel distortion, which was the reason i switched from blue back to green, though anxiety related to this matter continues, but at any rate it'll arrive proper and in a gloss cover, since matte has the street cred but for reasons related to longterm preservation i dropped matte to drop its fingerprints, went gloss to stay slick forever (duh)
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Post by: Garam on May 18, 2016, 10:00:53 AM
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Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on May 19, 2016, 05:42:23 PM
it's not my life story, it's the feeling of my life. difference. thanks for general positivity, appreciate. reception from readers has been strongly favorable. i read it today and thought some things now and then, and i knew i would, but only now and then, and nothing that might kill me. i don't think it's very hard to like the book.

depending on my day and mood while reading it there's variance to the number of times i'll say i brought it, but i think on occasion i bring it, in ways which involve not letting the world tear me down, including during days when i tear myself down, i fight this world and myself, both through life and my writing, and sometimes i bring it.

smooches to everyone, animals are awesome, be nice to kids, thanks again for general positivity, i'll take it.
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Post by: JG on May 19, 2016, 06:17:39 PM
did i ever tell you [sean] and michael are my first two names as well ?? as if the world could get any smaller
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Post by: jenkins on May 19, 2016, 06:46:21 PM
nice. sometimes smaller feels better, is how i'm taking it. did you see BvS? i didn't, but names are important for feelings of closeness, i hear.

the most egregious error i see in the book is on the spine at my name: what happened to the edge of the first S font is some unfortunate technical mishap, and i spell my middle name Michaejl. since i made it i can only be mad at myself and since i'm not mad that's already over anyway. i might nip and tuck things in the future, but i don't spot a problem worth sweating.
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Post by: jenkins on November 01, 2016, 08:27:31 PM
spam but i think you can let it pass. i think some of you might like this, i sure do. i confess i missed sharing this type of news here. it's the small things sometimes, all movie people know this.

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41RAX3ZXKnL.jpg)

QuoteSubstantive prose concerning tapestries of life within a 21st century which feels as if an absurd dream had upon a rocky boat during a stormy October night.

Fifteen short stories regarding the nature of being a butterfly, a cactus, a seed, a human and whatnot. Emphasis on the whatnot, with tinges of sci-fi and shades of the experimental.

The final note in a tremendous and productive year for Neon Burrito Publishing, from Los Angeles into the mind, forever.

click, buy, read, mutual benefit option (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0692794239)

the final line about the final note is melodramatic, i confess. i sometimes openly daydream upon publishing through Neon Burrito until my days expire, although yes i do wonder as well about that business world out there.

shout out to dogs.
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Post by: jenkins on January 02, 2017, 07:33:17 PM
if you think about it as fucking around, my 2016 was a lot of fucking around.

Baker's Dozen  (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0998520519/) is the first 2017 Neon Burrito (http://neonburrito.info) publication.

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"what have you done this year?"
"finished a poetry book."

by jan 1. our initial stated purpose.

Baker's Dozen is our 11th publication. thirteen poems each, which number i selected, and Morgan selected the title which references the number, it's my favorite number.

i finished reading Morgan's Stuck In An Elevator Between the 12th & 14th Floors Of An Apartment On Rossmore, which book isn't for sale in physical form currently for some reason. i underlined and underlined some lines on some pages. my response is that it's rich in fantastic character substance, which is all i desire anyway, a pulse given words. i'll miss reading his book as all good books are missed, like all good vacations are missed if you know what i mean, and if you don't know what i mean i'm just fucking around really, solid book.

"worth it" is the Neon Burrito slogan. because of course it is?

without anyone asking us to, Morgan and i continue heading forward as writers. because: it's not that we live to write, it's that we write to live. i assure you that's the major reason. what's being cooked at Neon Burrito Publishing for 2017?

glad i asked myself that question, because i can mention we might indeed finish transcribing db's mom's journals, and that might indeed be titled Violent Letters, although db isn't sure he likes the title that's from a description he gave of her journals, which journals largely talk about a) db her son's alcoholism and his challenging music career, b) her liking to read and write, her dreaming of her words being read one day — we just have to build together at least 24 pages and give them some shape.

also in fact i may publish the next book from my own mother, who self-published a book, Waking Reality (https://www.amazon.com/Waking-Reality-Donna-LeClair/dp/1493159178/), in order to inspire me she said but she always says that as she does these new things of her own curious design, and these things are always fascinating and never quite successful, i call them all marvelous she's my mother, and automanifest is dedicated to her if you think about it, and if she indeed finished a new book i'll support her because that sounds like what i'd do.

now i'm currently mentioning: i want to write a book that'll imitate Horacio Castellanos Moya, okay, i just mentioned that because you look back at this style of writing and where it came from and how it grew within me and things like that and, well, i don't know who else gave me this but Castellanos Moya, whom i don't mention for any reason but because i mean seriously where else did it come from, She-Devil In The Mirror (https://www.amazon.com/She-Devil-Mirror-New-Directions-Paperbook/dp/0811218465/) changed me, in terms of feelings, it altered my concept of how one might write, when i read it, i thought about that, how one might write, a literary version of feeling Almodovarian and okay, and i want to write an entire book in this form, which i believe will become one sentence, basically much like this sentence, yeah, this kind of writing is what i think i'll be up to, okay, for a book, at least one book, since i like the gravitational pull of a long sentence, so much, love it, the psychological value of a long, long thought, in fact Cosmic Robotics has a section of a short story written like this, yup, from back after i read Castellanos Moya's recent american release, although when i mention this form i realize what is risky, among many risks, so an example of what is risky is that sometimes when you mention an idea to a person the idea grows within their own thoughts, okay, within the head of the other person the idea takes a direction that might end up being a false direction, in terms of where the artist ends up heading, sure, sure, i might not write this book, or maybe i'll write this book another way, and artist is such a funny word i've recently realized, owing to John Waters yeah, but also i can't quite not admit that i'm not a writer so much as my own type of person, and here's what the cover to my next book which is going to be an autobiography (they call it the golden age of nonficiton, okay) about my 2017, during which year i plan to figure out how to become a sensible adult with a career that can sustain my literal future, and i might probably write the whole goddamn book like this, if i can commit myself to writing an entire book like this, and so the book cover currently looks like:

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thinking about it.

Neon Burrito Publishing, "Established but not in The Establishment", Morgan put on the back of his yellow sweater he made online, inspiring me to make a t-shirt with all our book titles on it

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thanks for letting me spend my time typing this. will i spend this long typing for Neon Burrito's fb page (https://www.facebook.com/neonburrito/)? i mean i doubt it. the aspects of this relatable here at xixax refer to the enterprise of living creatively, i believe. thanks again.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on February 05, 2017, 12:51:53 PM
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simply, i'm immensely proud of him. we're hundred-percent DIY, and i feel ridiculous at times but he helps me never feel alone. that's Morgan at his Neon Burrito Pubishing (http://neonburrito.info) booth at the The Great Rock and Roll Flea Market (http://rnrflea.com), which is dtown la at The Regent, 11-4.

so xixax is actually not the place i think would most care about this news, but you're sweeties to me when you are and thanks as always. more la news: Cosmic Robotics is available at Book Soup (http://www.booksoup.com), which I just realized means both irl and url (http://www.booksoup.com/search/site/cosmic%20robotics), Cosmic Robotics, Stuck In an Elevator Between the 12th & 14th Floors Of An Apartment Building on Rossmore, automanifest, and Everything Within are available at Skylight Books (http://www.skylightbooks.com), they too also mean this in a url way (http://www.skylightbooks.com/search/site/automanifest), which kind of trips me out and technically the title of automanifest is deliberately lowercase like the entire book okay, ultimately that's hella chill because why wouldn't it be.

not mentioned is a bunch of tiny disappointments, since they're not quite what keeps one going, you know.
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Post by: jenkins on June 13, 2017, 10:07:30 PM
(https://xixax.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNgqbPYs.jpg%3F1&hash=91f733a30ceffdfe6941da30926b36e89da2b3c4) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0998520500/ref)

thanks to polkablues for designing the cover. the photo is a link.

this is the 11th Neon Burrito publication. we're still inventing our own reasons for this being worthwhile. the novelette at the beginning, titled Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray, is the furthest i've yet explored the idea of prose writing within the self-proclaimed golden age of creative nonfiction. it's as unleashed as i've let myself be. the writing i speak of during the novelette is included as two fragments. one fragment is a single-sentence that's as long as the opening novelette. it's the furthest expression of anxiety i've performed within prose form. the other fragment is the beginning of the bizarro fiction novel i began writing, which was intended to be historical fiction about Mary, mother of Jesus. the final adult-kids' book we made because of passions and plans, and the plans didn't materialize but the passion remained.

i genuinely recommend my own book.
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Post by: polkablues on June 13, 2017, 11:48:01 PM
Can vouch for.
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Post by: Drenk on June 16, 2017, 01:45:00 PM
I bought it with Amazon.fr but it says there is no stock. I received Larry Angeles within two days.

EDIT: Nevermind. Amazon sent me a mail, I'm receiving it in July.
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Post by: N on June 18, 2017, 07:46:23 AM
I haven't actually finished Larry Angeles yet :(

I read like a quarter and then I forgot about it (nothing to do with the book's contents, I do that with nearly every book, even my textbooks for university)
Need to have another go at it. It just ended up in a box with the 50 other books I bought with every intention of reading. Would this book be classified as bizarro?

Congrats and best wishes anyway!
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Post by: jenkins on June 18, 2017, 11:16:15 AM
sweetie i believe that what you're forgetting is you never bought Larry Angeles xx

the main text of Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray is creative nonfiction, except i categorized it as fiction / black humor. because there's not a fucking moment that describes me doing anything i've done. none of it has happened, actually. i had a lot of fun writing it. i don't know of another book like it, kind of. i had already begun writing it when i started reading The Complete Works of Marvin K. Mooney (https://www.amazon.com/Complete-Works-Marvin-K-Mooney/dp/0615339999/), a selection i made from bookstacks in my room, searching for a book it'd be a good idea for me to read while writing this, and a certain shared spirit between me and that book was one of those marvelous cosmic coincidences. but my tone and narrative intention are quite dissimilar to that book, which is almost like mad at the reader and mad at oneself. i'm pissed at the world, you know, and Ferdydurke (https://www.amazon.com/Ferdydurke-Margellos-World-Republic-Letters/dp/0300181671/) helped me realize i can be a bit pissy, if i want to be, and my tone and narrative intention were also a result of Água Viva (https://www.amazon.com/%C3%81gua-Viva-New-Directions-Paperbook/dp/0811219909/) allowing my sense of self unlimited space, and The Argonauts (https://www.amazon.com/Argonauts-Maggie-Nelson/dp/1555977359/) was the book which made it clear to me that the world of nonfiction was serious business.

the first fragment shared in the book, mentioned within the novelette, is an imitation of a style i learned from Horacio Castellanos Moya (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horacio_Castellanos_Moya). it's straight up a 54-page one-sentence expression of personal anxiety.

the second fragment is the beginning portion of my planned bizarro fiction book. so this part is classified as bizarro, except i didn't write it long enough to fully express that subgenre's loveliest features, which features i do twice describe within OWTPODG, also emulating the genre within the book's overall mechanics, since there's cosmic harmony between me and this idea: "strives not only to be strange, but fascinating, thought-provoking, and, above all, fun to read."

there's also an adult-kids book, which to me just seemed like an obvious good idea for a type of book.
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Post by: N on June 18, 2017, 01:45:18 PM
Regardless, that sounds quite interesting. A 54-page single sentence sounds super tricky to write, grammatically. If I recall correctly DFW's short story Incarnations of Burned Children is only a single sentence? That could be wrong, actually I know it's wrong because I just looked it up and there's full stops, but it was about the only fragment of literary expertise I could muster in the attempt to form a purportedly lucid response. If that fails my backup plan is to increase the bandwidth on the bandpass butterworth (http://msp.ucsd.edu/techniques/v0.11/book-html/node147.html) filter for my vocabulary mid-sentence, and use overly specific and ill-fitting technical analogies to hopefully confuse you into thinking I have any idea about books.

For some reason I can read non-fiction at twice the speed of fiction but that's generally because there's no subtext in computer science. Good non fiction I imagine could be quite poetic and concise, like Nietzsche or something. Or if Nabokov had written The Origin of Species instead of that lunatic.

I've got an exam in an hour, probably should've written this reply after, if I remember when I get back I'll check out those links in detail.
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Post by: jenkins on June 18, 2017, 01:52:45 PM
oh that's right, i don't understand how to read my reports. may it be that the "sweetie" and "xx" pay off, and in my opinion the ending of Larry Angeles is strong.

we're at the happy ending. of course i loved the way you talked about how you're currently thinking of writing, which segued into self reflection. i think you'd like OWTPODG. it's perhaps more of a guy book than i'd necessarily want it to be, based on within OWTPODG the reader i imagine is often a rational person who sometimes seems frustrated by my emotions.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: N on June 18, 2017, 02:11:17 PM
That's actually a pretty cool idea, similar to what Dostoevsky did in Notes From Underground maybe. What I remember of Larry Angeles was well written but I had trouble relating to LA having never been there, but I suppose I have actually been there in your camera. Forgot what your short film was named, something to do with roses or something? That film was fantastic anyway, shame on me for not finishing Larry Angeles, but don't take it personally, I still haven't even seen the entirety of 2001 either.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on June 18, 2017, 02:38:33 PM
well i figure if you (the reader) like me you already like me, so i'd like to imagine myself getting along with someone not like me. and find avenues for reflection upon shared aspects of the human condition. that's the basic setup. Gooses was the name of the short but i would've titled it Something To Do With Roses Or Something? in a heartbeat. no shame, only forward xx
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: polkablues on June 20, 2017, 04:46:32 PM
Hey everyone, look what came in the mail today.

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For fun, here's the first cover design I made, which is nice and I like it on its own merits, but I like the one that ended up being used much better. Still, a nice little easter egg for the completists out there.

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Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on June 20, 2017, 05:04:42 PM
xx. i should've put it in the book. i would've been happy with either of course.

its sale is currently on pause, as i'm reading a physical copy and noticing final things. maybe 13 typos i've noticed, which number i'm biased toward and is semi-accurate, within 170pgs. they all rush me to the computer and none of them break my heart or destroy the spirit. in literature land the ones with the typos are the collector's edition.

polka thanks again. i mean, it's really fun to thank you. i'm not sure why but thanks. i'm posi that if you got a capsule review to help the community it'd help the community. but ultimately like the mother says in Volver everything about us is up to us. i've done what i've thought i can do. the book was sent to 4 writers. so i did that too. the final scenario is at least that the next news will be the release of my new book. it's ridiculous to think of me walking away from writing.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: polkablues on June 20, 2017, 05:14:09 PM
I want to reread it first, plus read the additional material in the book that I haven't seen yet, then I'll definitely post my thoughts.

And thanks for giving me the opportunity to design the cover for you. It was a fun process, and it's a pretty cool thing to be able to hold in my hands and put on my shelf.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: WorldForgot on September 08, 2017, 02:57:46 AM
OK so, I have just finished Larry Angeles.

Mostly, I am so glad for this book -- thank you jenkins (Shawn, Larry, etc.) -- for coming into my life when it did. Forever dreaming of word planet, my fate brought me eventually into this city, wherein Larry is, too, losing himself. The construction of a sentence is a peculiar thing, and each word holds its own life. There were times when I wanted to be as much a part of word planet as Larry, although I am, as I had been before, when writing created gambits rather than blocks.

Portions of this book I read aloud to my family (about I Just Want To Pee Alone and solitary habitats [it recurred often in my life that my father, brother and I would live among a Barnes & Nobles for hours on end, weekly, rather than pace repeated mall routes]) about streets and buildings, which we have just met for the first time this February, about The Great Escape (a favorite of ourz, too, of course [though, I did not share the trash bin lightly, and we DAMN'd Larry aloud for this singular instance, in sympathy of a blu-ray, but more than that...])

I'm going to revisit this book. This I know because it is of the sort I most treasure. Honest witticisms via self-referentia. Maybe i think how Larry thinks he feels and so communicated, THUSLY to the writer. However it goes, it went like good, like really happy great. After a few days with Larry Angeles, on the weekend, during a PS2 bout of TimeSplitters 2, I pitched the novel to my friend (from Houston, fond of literature, and admittedly snobbish about reading priorities) as a compassionate alternative to Bret Easton Ellis' works. I pitched it as such because Glamorama is (on most days[?]) my favorite novel of all time. And because the creative nonfiction, fictitious flirtations of subconscious identity and self-aware method make for the best of pen palz.

Idk that I wrote that right, but idk that there is a wrong way to write what I mean, other than be grateful for Xixax.

When I received my copy I thought, Wow! This was printed in San Bernardino the very day I ordered it, and I can tell on that other today that it was yesterday because it is tomorrow and I have received a beautiful paperback, inscribed on its last page as just the last day.
Wow!
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on September 08, 2017, 01:41:06 PM
general "xx", followed by --

Quote from: WorldForgot on September 08, 2017, 02:57:46 AM
The construction of a sentence is a peculiar thing, and each word holds its own life.

i very much like and appreciate how you said "each word holds it own life." this is how a friend described my writing structure --

QuoteThere are so many sentences that inspire me. The prose feels so delicate and deliberately chosen. Even your sentences that don't contain wonderful thoughts or strange realities are a joy to read owing to rearrangement and consideration of verb/subject/preposition/punctuation placement (or perhaps you've become a word musician playing like a soloist in a bebop band).

QuoteThe Great Escape (a favorite of ourz, too, of course [though, I did not share the trash bin lightly, and we DAMN'd Larry aloud for this singular instance, in sympathy of a blu-ray, but more than that...])

this escapade with my blu-ray troubles is a running joke reference for readers, which i adore.

QuoteHonest witticisms via self-referentia.

that's like 80% of me. i'll say this: as everything, it has its pros/cons, in terms of reader appreciation.

Quoteas a compassionate alternative to Bret Easton Ellis' works.

i appreciate you mentioning this. what can happen is certain elements of despair and frustration can overwhelm the reader. but for me those elements are ingrained, and it's the fight that's worth it. there's a certain optimism in me, no doubt.

QuoteIdk that I wrote that right, but idk that there is a wrong way to write what I mean, other than be grateful for Xixax.

dude you wrote it right into my heart. thank you.

QuotePortions of this book I read aloud to my family (about I Just Want To Pee Alone

this section, for the xixax curious --

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Dialogue from when Larry is paged to work as a cashier during his shift:

"I wonder what it'd be like to be a mom. There are female writers now, you know, who write about specific female topics..."

"Yeah..."

"Yeah, and recently I heard about the book I Just Want to Pee Alone. I felt philosophically sympathetic to the title."

"There's a word for it... I forget the word for a mother thinking and worrying about her kid when she's in the shower."

"You can't even shower without thinking about your kid?"

"Exactly. I listen for my kid when I'm in the shower, think about my kid at night before I sleep. I bet your mother worries about you."

"She does. So not only is it difficult to be physically alone, but psychologically alone. You're helping me think about this more."

"Yeah. Well, I've heard that book title maybe. Maybe I'll read it. I'm a mom, and it's comforting to hear from other moms about being a mom. The number of things you go through in a day, all the things, they can make you feel insane. Until you read about someone else, then you don't feel alone with your fights that make you feel insane."

"Isn't that the purpose of art, to make a person feel less alone in this world? And I like how contemporary art is made with direct relatability for specific types of people."

"Yeah."

"Do you want to buy a bag for a dime?"

"No thanks."

"Cool. Here are your books."

"Thanks."

"Thank you. I didn't know I'd have this conversation today."

"Neither did I," she says as she smiles and he smiles and she walks away.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on September 11, 2017, 01:42:44 PM
this is the first chapter to the upcoming Stormy Fortune. i am taking longer to write this book than i guessed i would, and i'm now writing it differently than i thought i would. this chapter does not speak in the first person, this chapter is not about me. this chapter is about the history of humans and California. i believe this chapter is worth sharing at xixax for this reason. i believe this chapter is worth reading because i wrote it. this chapter does indeed build up to the book being about me, although currently the book might actually become a series of build ups toward being about me, without ever being about me. this is maybe becoming a book that wants to be about me but isn't. but also i'm just having fun saying that and there's still a lot of work ahead of me.

i would appreciate silent support, i would adore conversational feedback. again: this chapter is building up to being about me, but this chapter is about the history of humans and Los Angeles, California.

QuoteChapter One


Back before all of everything established these days, including the concept of days, back before science, before poetry, no poetry, goddamn... you are here, before language, when ineffability was everything, here you are. Knowing not a name for your hands, you know your hands are yours. You see an animal which is now extinct, and you cannot explain the effects of your head or heart, but still you live by day and dream by night. Your higher consciousness is new to this old planet. Imagine.

For humans only: creating models of the universe within one's mind; conceiving of reality from an objective and temporal perspective; conceptualizing one's interior; implementing reason and sometimes guessing while feeling emotional. The universe had/has/always will have life's ingredients, but only humans write the recipes.

Today's humans possess an elevated concept of cosmic awareness—and yet still they don't know where they're headed toward or coming from. Fact: contemporary humans who act as if they live in the future and know everything are hilarious because every day is ephemeral within eternity, and we do not know nearly everything. What's tragic is that we know our Sun one day will die. And Earth, our first love, all we have known so far, it may die before the Sun. This will be a tremendous life obstacle, but it is surmountable, based on evidence from human history, science, and the abstract concept of belief. Forever: strange land becomes new land we live upon.

In the reality of humans living forever, some day one day today will have taken place upon a dead planet in the far-flung past. So how does today matter, among that many days? Like this: yesterday happened for today; today happens for tomorrow.

In terms of what's known of the history of existence, it's known that it's rather mind boggling really. No one can make contact with the last universal common ancestor. Narrowing down to humans: still mind boggling. Neither the Mitochondrial Eve nor the Y-chromosomal Adam have been discovered. A beautiful phylogenetic tree indicates abundant human migration spanning time, but the human path to the Americas is a ginormous scientific mystery, with archeological records of initial sites submerged beneath the rising waters of an unstable Pacific coastline, creating uncertainties related to potential human migration over the Beringian land bridge and/or coastal migration across the Pacific Ocean.

But this world is as it is, and this is the mental task which requires thoughts of another world: imagine if the Americas were never once discovered by anybody, nobody ever stepped foot on the Americas, throughout the entire past and future of humans on Earth. If that were reality, then, there being less known of the exterior world, would humans know less of themselves—and the real question is: are we always the same as we are, unrelated to what we do or do not know of our world?

In reality, one-third the total population of Native Americans lived in the land that became California. The highest population density of its time; hunter-gatherers; practitioners of religion; practitioners of hallucinogenics; developers of unique cultures, such as the La Jolla Complex and the Pauma Complex; explorers of possibilities within human existence; explorers of personal meaning within a sense of being.

The name of California first appeared in a romantic novel written by Garci Rodríguez de Montalvo, read by Spanish conquistadors, and included within Don Quixote's library, Las sergas de Esplandián (The Exploits of Esplandián):

   Know that on the right hand from the Indies exists an island called California very close to a side of the Earthly Paradise; and it was    populated by black women, without any man existing there, because they lived in the way of the Amazons.

The mutineer Fortún Ximénez first landed a ship upon the land believed to be ruled by Queen Calafia. At first on maps the Baja California Peninsula became the island of California.

In a later reality a northern portion of this land became Alta California, the Tongva people became Gabrieleños and Fernandeños, living among the Diegeuños, Luiseños, Juaneños—and people of Spanish ancestry migrated here as pobladores, becoming Californios who lived, for example, in El Pueblo de Nuestra Señora la Reina de los Ángeles (The Town of Our Lady the Queen of the Angels). And ranchos flourished in Los Angeles to such an extent that, after Mexico won against Spain their War of Independence, then amid manifest destiny, after the Siege of Los Angeles, after the United States captured California, later during the Gold Rush, this pueblo became known as Queen of the Cow Counties.

A Mexican land grant, Rancho La Brea, transformed into new names upon American real estate maps, in this city where land is gold. The name for Hollywood is said to have first appeared in the honeymoon minds of Mr. and Mrs. Whitley. But the Mother of Hollywood was Daeida Wilcox Beveridge, born in Hicksville, Ohio. She and her husband placed Hollywood on a map. She named Sunset Boulevard. She installed Hollywood's first sidewalk in front of her house, on what was Prospect Avenue but became Hollywood Boulevard, after the city of Hollywood merged with Los Angeles (for its aqueducts). It is well-known that early moviemakers adored the paradisiacal weather of Hollywood. The first movie shot in Hollywood was a Latino melodrama, In Old California, a period piece set in days when Mexico owned California. Its director D.W. Griffith returned to New York City with news of this wondrous land; quite similar to the information of Queen Calafia's land being discovered by Fortún Ximénez, in terms of cultural imagination having a direct impact upon emerging landscapes. Movies were a science, an industry, an art. Movies were portholes into possibilities and people across the globe began to peer inside. Hollywood became a Dream Factory within a country made by and for dreams. Hollywood reestablished The American Dream, for when reality would kill dreams, as reality often would, movies would grant them life again.

South of Hollywood are the La Brea Tar Pits; and Park La Brea, the largest housing development in the U.S. west of the Mississippi River. This is Wilshire District, which is called Mid-City West. Here there is Miracle Mile, with its museum row. Here is Carthay Circle; true. And here there is what became, after WWII, the center for Jewish settlement within Los Angeles, Fairfax District. The past and future of Los Angeles stretch back and reach forward in ways dependent upon the distinct reality of each citizen, in whose chest and head the raw materials of dreams are stored, so in Fairfax District is The Raoul Wallenberg Square, which is named for a provider of protective passports to Jewish Hungarian citizens during the Holocaust; always: reality is more important than a dream. A dream is more important than a movie. And a movie is better than reality. This is the philosophy of Los Angeles.

Fairfax District is south of West Hollywood, which is its own glorious microcosm, and where Sunset Strip grew, this city-in-a-city that was initially named Sherman, by its founder Moses Sherman, but a realty business inspired its change. This book is being written on the second floor of a Spanish Revival home, in an apartment one street back and one street over from Raoul Wallenberg Square, so outside the limits of Fairfax District, and below West Hollywood, within Beverly Grove. The name Beverly Grove is a realty concoction which references two neighborhood malls: Beverly Center and The Grove. This is next to Beverly Hills, below which is Beverlywood.

Beverly Grove does not posses a rich cultural history. It has Cedars-Sinai Medical Center, with its holy name. During the time this book is being written, in relation to diverse ethnic potentials within the city of Los Angeles, Beverly Grove is not especially diverse. Though its percentages of never-married men and women are among the county's highest. This is a neighborhood creating its identity within the shadows of human history. This is a neighborhood building its own character, and it can do it if it does it, by pulling itself by its own bootstraps, which is the way to do it.

Here are ecstatic essays written by the straps of Beverly Grove boots, since humans write what history becomes, as the beginning of this chapter mentioned in another way. All this is possible since life squeezes inside of words the same as life squeezes inside a city, and also this city and these words have clouds made of dreams, so with those two factors combined, that's how all this is possible.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: polkablues on September 11, 2017, 03:53:35 PM
This is probably my favorite passage that I've read from any of your work. Your writing, when its explicitly autobiographical, has a tendency toward being distancing, self-conscious, ironically opaque. But somehow you writing about any random thing outside yourself has a way of turning on all the lights and throwing open the curtains. The more you write about whatever random things, places, or concepts interest you at that moment in time, the more I feel like your writing is letting me know you.

QuoteHollywood reestablished The American Dream, for when reality would kill dreams, as reality often would, movies would grant them life again.

I mean, come on. That's so, so good. That's like your id just drafted its mission statement.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on September 11, 2017, 04:18:17 PM
this i feel is how i always write, but in this instance, and in continuing chapters of Stormy Fortune, and different from my other books, the iceberg below me is not myself. i'm a fan of both styles. i mean i have to be because, me and you, next to each other now, this is how i'd act: distancing, self-conscious, ironically opaque. and i think there would be another way to look at me. thanks for your kind words, they keep me going forward, away from what i think of as purity, and from which one must leave indeed.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: polkablues on September 11, 2017, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: jenkins on September 11, 2017, 04:18:17 PM
i'm a fan of both styles. i mean i have to be because, me and you, next to each other now, this is how i'd act: distancing, self-conscious, ironically opaque.

Ha, fair enough. I recognize that there's truth in that approach, and in real life person to person interaction, I don't think it would bother me at all. But as a reader of writing I find it frustrating. It doesn't entice me to keep reading, whereas this makes me want to strap into the ride and go wherever it wants to take me.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on September 12, 2017, 02:27:18 AM
i'm truly sorry that you didn't finish reading OW'sTPODG, to which you must be referring. i assure you that i have heard other perspectives on that book. it is not necessary for you to further emphasize your dissatisfaction, which was clear to me from the beginning. again, sorry to hear. but thanks again for the kind words about the chapter i shared, you're the only person here who gave kind words in fact. i don't think knocking down other writing of mine assisted that matter, certainly it didn't for me, but it seems you wanted to let that out of you. that is life. it's okay.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on September 12, 2017, 10:02:41 AM
This was my favorite part:

Quote from: jenkins on September 12, 2017, 02:27:18 AMFact: contemporary humans who act as if they live in the future and know everything are hilarious because every day is ephemeral within eternity, and we do not know nearly everything.


This is great and reminded me of Battlestar Galactica in a fun way:

Quote from: jenkins on September 12, 2017, 02:27:18 AMIn the reality of humans living forever, some day one day today will have taken place upon a dead planet in the far-flung past. So how does today matter, among that many days? Like this: yesterday happened for today; today happens for tomorrow.
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on October 19, 2017, 09:02:27 PM
i straight quote polka in this chapter. the good part, of course. honestly i'm allowing myself to be lazy about formatting this post (it'll be formatted in the book of course) because who really is going to read it? well, polka probably, at least the part about him. i did italicize the opening line, as each chapter begins with an explanation about what the chapter will be. so first i'll include to one to the first chapter, which i hadn't yet re-inserted at the time i made my post. the book continues to both be very much about me and very much like me, and i suppose i can't guarantee the chapter will begin the way it does now, but i am showing some signs that maybe.

QuoteChapter One

A perspective on the history and future of humans, zooming into existence within contemporary Los Angeles.

QuoteChapter Eleven

Reflections culminate regarding personal emotions initiated at least two chapters ago; this illustrates my nature.


[Note to self] Consider this: Now means not the same thing as Forever—and what the fuck about Forever applies to me?

[Note to self] Tidy this philosophy: all I had was all I needed.

[Reminder to self] Ambrose Bierce's definition of a Cynic within The Devil's Dictionary—

   A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they    are, not as they ought to be. Hence the custom among    the Scythians of plucking out a cynic's eyes to       improve his vision.

[Personal realization:] Oh, okay—reality can be fucking hilarious, like dark humor. And life means more than laughs, but at the very least life means some laughs.

[I'm] Building things up like this for a mysterious reason which feels necessary to me now (oh I remember why, as a method for introducing the concept of writing flowering in my mind during my years alive), headed toward mentioning: no rules on a page, like I've mentioned. No rules but customs and elaborations upon customs, and the dance between people and words. What I cared about was each writer's dance—shake it up! Let loose! Feel free! Simply: when one dances there is the question of how one dances, anyone can dance how they want to dance, and that has been the essence of writing since Forever. This dance of mine is titled Stormy Fortune and here I was dancing in the rain, dancing in the rain, dancing in the goddamn rain—I've been dancing in the rain for some time, and I'll keep dancing as Robyn mentioned I should, in that song of hers, "Dancing On My Own".

Summary: my life was a tap dance atop reality, same as my life was a tap dance routine atop theses pages. I appreciated that I felt mostly alone while I lived and yet here in this book I was in full exhibition for a reader's potential viewing pleasuring. You're watching me dance and that's golden because I'll be dancing regardless. For the sake of the performance. For the sake of words. For the sake of everything, for my own sake, like I've been saying.

I adored that in art one was permitted to do anything, so everyone just wondered if that was a good idea. That was the best way to create art, I thought: From/Into Anything. This was my favorite type of character personality: someone capable of doing anything. I didn't most relate to people who were always-good or always-bad, I most related to the always-wild.

As a writer I was a person who lived in total wonder, as writers always have and will—since what the fuck else would we do with all our wonder? Writers are people who know that people can create anything they want to create, anything can be imagined. Writing is just a matter words. The best form of written art was called literature, and I adored it, based on principle. And this was true too: everyone created their own art, no matter what one called it. As much as I desired the best of anything I desired everyone and everything.

At the time of this writing everyone was wired into the Internet, enabling awareness about what had already been written—and, life's crucial topics, worthy of consideration, most everything had already been mentioned through writing, some of it best mentioned by the Greeks in Western culture, so it went, so it goes: anything could be believed, and as a writer I hoped to explore what writing could become, in terms of no one having had been like me, like this, this way, my way, I was the only I, and I was not better than the rest but I had idiosyncratic curiosities which I transmitted into my life and life perspective, shit which gripped me and spun my days, shit which tripped me out and allowed me to imagine myself being pulled within interior realms of reader/writerly human understanding, still believing/always believing that one learns of life from life—and this was the type of shit I liked reading about, seriously. I had first understood words as a way of learning about life—Stormy Fortune.

So that covers that and what was covered was how I see the things I mentioned.

That song, Drama Duo, "Forever's Gone"—

Because you see
You see what you want to see
You believe what you want to believe

You see what you want to see
You believe what you want to believe
There's no other way

Because I'm not afraid
to be alone
to be alone

Some people find life most comfortable within what has already been discovered and explained to them. Why was anything new needed when the past was perfect? All anyone ever missed was their childhood, anyway. In a June 5, 2017 article, producer Matt Tolmach was quoted by Hollywood Reporter as saying:

That is the conundrum of where we're living right now: People want what feels familiar, but they don't want it to be familiar.

After I shared the first chapter of Stormy Fortune with the person who made the cover to Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray, he told me—

This is probably my favorite passage that I've read from any of your work. Your writing, when it's explicitly autobiographical, has a tendency toward being distracting, self-conscious, ironically opaque. But somehow you writing about any random thing outside yourself has a way of turning on all the lights and throwing open the curtains. The more you write about whatever random things, places, or concepts interest you at that moment in time, the more I feel like your writing is letting me know you.

[Quotes me.]

I mean, come on. That's so, so good. That's like your id just drafted its mission statement.

Then I felt prompted to confess to him my desire to move away from my purity, considering my earlier writing pure, and my new writing impure, as happens when a person transitions from being born to becoming an adult, which was the traditional experience of human life and the life of writers. Within the world of words my puberty was public. Human nature. How many of the books I'd written were exactly like the other? Zero. They all chat about the same shit, but each one was its own literary journal which grew from some idea I was having about myself and writing at the time when I wrote the book. I changed as a person of words goddamn right in front of people—and who cared? I cared.

At the time when this chapter was being written, it had been four months since Oscar Wilde's The Picture of Dorian Gray had been published. I used to be able to count on my friends and family as readers, but I was beginning to lose my number of friend and family readers, which I understood. I sometimes wondered of the number of people I lost purely from My Autobiography Is My Manifesto: Volume One, which I adored for its innocence, but: biased, and I could see how that book would seem as if perhaps a lapse in certain faculties related toward creating mature, professional forms of art. But, the criticisms I imagined (paranoid), most of them missed the feeling intended from the creation of an adult-children's book, which I wanted to behave exactly as if an adult-child. Eff rules. No fear. Nothing but innocence and character. That book was me coming my closest toward creating some type of Venice Beach Self-Transformation book, powered by some interior engine, fashion by my own design.

Was I a person who wanted to be associated with some type of Venice Beach Self-Transformation book? Yes. Why not? I didn't see the problem. That category is where I would place what became automanifest, a coming-of-age novelette written with poetic-type prose, a fine-tuned 5x8" version of My Autobiography Is My Manifesto: Volume One, though I published automanifest without capital letters, still behaving mostly like a child, knowing every adult rule I obeyed would only quiet my inner child (Fuck That, I felt at the time). I didn't believe that rule following would be a proper presentation of my radical youth. Plus here's this book too, radical self-forged ideologies from the first person. There are other books as well. There was all of me, the pure and the impure. All that's ever really possible is everything, regarding the pigeonhole principle.

Adult Gummies by K. Karivalis would be published by Neon Burrito in November. I read its final draft; it was written by a person who lived in the same world as me, same time—different eyes. I treasured my reading experience. She had precision, which I always appreciated. I imagined her in a section of literature I invented and named Mellow Existentialism. Hers would be the first book published by someone unknown to me in the physical world. She was a memer—what happened was the creator of the Larry Angeles cover, Christina Gubala, messaged me that Karivalis was her favorite memer and was writing a book, mentioning that I should publish her. I was delighted to become able to publish Karivalis, feeling grateful for meeting her and having read Adult Gummies.

Here's a difference between things: if I were living in Ohio and I told you, "Hey, I'm living the dream," you'd say "Prove it" maybe. But I lived in Los Angeles, and one might begin by believing I was living the dream. But I was trying to prove that to myself. Like I've said: here life isn't guaranteed to become your dream, but one's dream can becomes one's life for many. As far as I knew, the dream in fact lived in Hollywood Hills. Are not our dreams always above us? The glow of this dream was cast upon Hollywood, and some people lived within the glow. But there were all these other parts of this city which was massive and contained many neighborhoods. I lived in Mid-City West, in a section which was nothing exceptional as I mentioned in the beginning. Beverly Grove, who cared, I cared. I mentioned Ambrose Bierce said this in another way: each moment each person is only the person they are in that moment.

Always now, always forward, that was what the dark kids said to conquer their fears during the time this was being written. The days behind me were done, the days ahead of me remained. Had I lived half my life yet? As Cicero said in another way: life was terrible the whole way through, but when it was over it was over. What would my worries be when I was dead? Zero worries then. So as rough as my days could feel to me, they were all okay enough to be my days, and sometimes I would rather not worry, though sometimes I felt honest within some worries, and each of everything was a piece of the totality of my life.

Patience was a thing I kept my eyes on as I aged, sometimes looking away by accident. The more I learned the more I knew how much I didn't know. I could become overwhelmed by how much there was to learn. Always the same me. Managing the line between a corporeal and spiritual world. Sometimes feeling as if everyone living their lives were getting in my way. As if everyone was an obstacle. Blaming other people for being obstacles. But I was learning as I aged that I gave each person a reality, and they gave me one back. Oh, I gave other people my reality. But by learning more of a person would I learn more of their reality, and only by learning of other realities could I learn more of my own, I knew, I felt, every day I had to remember that.

Mostly by reading. I moved to Los Angeles thinking of the world as massive, anything possible, learning through experience that the world and the city could turn against me, and time after time I felt as if nothing was possible. The world was larger and stranger than my large and strange dreams, I realized within Los angeles. A thing I held inside myself was a constant feeling of actually being utterly insignificant to existence: carried this within me, always, some small part ready to give this whole gig up. Sometimes that part of me was large and sometimes that part of me was small. While writing this book that part of me was small. A certain poem within Eudaimonia is probably the most depressing thing I've published.

[Note to self]: Light as a feather stiff as a board, but in terms of philosophy.

[A difference between me and a scientist]: For each human, the universal was personal.
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Post by: Robyn on October 19, 2017, 09:36:45 PM
that's brilliant, and I'm actually getting inspired by your writing. thank you for sharing! i'll definitely check out some of your books. i like this part a lot:

Quote from: jenkins on October 19, 2017, 09:02:27 PM
What I cared about was each writer's dance—shake it up! Let loose! Feel free! Simply: when one dances there is the question of how one dances, anyone can dance how they want to dance, and that has been the essence of writing since Forever. This dance of mine is titled Stormy Fortune and here I was dancing in the rain, dancing in the rain, dancing in the goddamn rain—I've been dancing in the rain for some time, and I'll keep dancing as Robyn mentioned I should, in that song of hers, "Dancing On My Own".

and while reading this, I had jack kerouac reading poems in the background, so I imagined this in his voice:
Quote from: jenkins on October 19, 2017, 09:02:27 PM
I didn't most relate to people who were always-good or always-bad, I most related to the always-wild.
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Post by: jenkins on October 19, 2017, 11:16:12 PM
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Post by: jenkins on October 20, 2017, 02:28:24 AM
it's done btw. it's thirteen chapters, 130 pages, with like 1.4 spacing to get me the spine because why not. polka is listed in the credits. i'm ordering the proof tonight is what i mean by it's done.

(https://i.imgur.com/TnoR0My.jpg?1)
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Post by: jenkins on October 22, 2017, 06:51:18 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/DrTrjb2.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0998520527/)

Neon Burrito's first publication from a person i don't know in the physical world. she was recommended to me by the person who made the Larry Angeles cover.

QuoteFrom the publisher--

A marker of a contemporary classic is being contemporary: Adult Gummies by K. Karivalis, a memer (https://www.instagram.com/businesscasualdreams/). Basic intro facts and we're already waist-deep in the 21st century, prepare to be submerged my friends.

Adult Gummies couldn't have been written in any other time by any other person, and we're delighted af to publish this spectral illumination of thoughts from life today. To gush for a moment, it's the cosmos which glow inside Karivalis.
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Post by: WorldForgot on October 23, 2017, 01:31:17 PM
Larry Angeles stitched me together when the city had me drawn and quartered. I'll be ordering Adult Gummies next payday ~
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Post by: jenkins on October 23, 2017, 06:16:09 PM
xx.

Saturday is the expected arrival day for the Stormy Fortune proof. i've twice edited the full proof draft, since i ordered it, meaning i won't read the proof copy but check its form. Oct 31 is the book's planned release date (last year Cosmic Robotics was published Oct 31). and what i'm saying is that's going to be a great book too.

xx again, for support, interest, general xx, and etc. xx, xx.
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Post by: jenkins on October 31, 2017, 08:34:05 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/dS2fPiy.jpg) (https://www.amazon.com/dp/0998520535/)

the synopsis on (^)amazon

QuoteIn love with words.

xixax exclusive --

in this book i blame the world for everything. my writing goal had been to describe the world and why i was blaming it, in order to make my life circumstance clear for the readers. before i wrote this book i thought, "But will people be able to picture my life circumstance," and i considered that an urgent question. this is exactly the kind of book i've written before, about the same person (me), but written from another angle. all the angles by the end will give my full dimensions. this book references previous books. it references other books and some movies and music. the general perspective maintains that i like myself but this world doesn't need me, and what then. does the world change or do i change? Fine Being Myself. in Stormy Fortune i say the world can stay the same and i will too. always forward. and i am this funny person who makes myself up, not the only kind like me but the only me, and what if that doesn't suck, because the world says that sucks and what then? at the very least this book. so it's got the philosophy that it has, which is basically "fuck the world" you know that one

Quote

CONTENTS


7 — Chapter One

A perspective on the history and future of humans, zooming into contemporary Los Angeles existence.

15 — Chapter Two

My early life history, emphasis on beginning to daydream in Ohio; sentimental.

28 — Chapter Three

A perspective I developed while becoming an adult in southern California, a side-story about Portland, Oregon, and a return to the screen dreams of Los Angeles.

42 — Chapter Four

A mirror of words and here I am.

46 — Chapter Five

A spectrum of recent life occurrences.

59 — Chapter Six

Descriptions of reading as a foundational element within my life experience.

70 — Chapter Seven

My relation to Murphy's Law.

74 — Chapter Eight

Sincere movie time.

81 — Chapter Nine

Illumination upon the core of this book, which is me, same-same but different as I was during other books I've written.

89 — Chapter Ten

Exploring the enormity of learning everything and becoming a successful writer, which is related to ideas discussed in the previous chapter, except different, building from it.

100 — Chapter Eleven

Reflections culminate regarding personal emotions initiated at least two chapters ago; this illustrates my nature.

111 — Chapter Twelve

A chapter related to old and new friends.

121 — Chapter Thirteen

Staring into the horizon, as one must. 
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Post by: jenkins on November 16, 2017, 06:47:44 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/7XMEM51.png?1)

tonight she's having her book release party, the first party thrown related to Neon Burrito, and i'm beyond excited for her.
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Post by: jenkins on January 04, 2018, 04:26:17 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/R0MZp9s.jpg)

aka Chinatown in Los Angeles. the person in the photo from the above post will be doing a reading, with the artist who made the cover to Larry Angeles as a dj. i won't be reading because i'm afraid of public speaking, but i'll be there duh.
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Post by: jenkins on October 20, 2018, 12:16:43 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/NMBssgW.png?1)

it's not done but it's getting there. it's the one i've put the most time into. and i don't mean in terms of having the idea for it, but in terms of writing it. in terms of further developing my craft. Larry Angeles is autofiction and then i went on a string of deep personal, this is the closet i've gone into fiction. it's about me if i hadn't left Ohio. in the book i'm exactly the same as i am here but i make it there, so it's all made up and still sounds exactly like me. the nature of the art of writing continues to grow in me, and there are thrills within that growth for sure.
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Post by: jenkins on November 05, 2018, 12:02:12 AM
regarding the previous cover sampled, that was the third variety, and in that design the width of the middle column started bothering me, then the color of the border and text, and soon enough i found myself overthinking it of course, and actually i kept going with that but i didn't like how much i'd thought about it, and i still had some problems with it, creating an overall pleasing color scheme became challenging for me, so i reverted to an inverted and colorized version of this book's first cover design. an upside-down gem resembles a mountain, i like the design and mountains are entirely unrelated. [this also sounds like my writing process.]

(https://i.imgur.com/SSmkVFW.png?1)

a new proof has been ordered. this one is lined up to be read in a way that will result in "challenging" feedback which will potentially "cause me to question my entire methodology" and also potentially ponder if i should "take up some other hobby besides writing." time will tell what will happen, eventually Gem City will be published of course, i'm the one who does it.
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Post by: jenkins on February 21, 2020, 10:26:59 PM
fiction is hella fun

QuoteWhere we are on the calendar: in-between job stints Brett begins making plans for the production of his own new short film, Mary was an Alien, which is a sci-fi about Mary the virgin mother of Christ having been born on another planet in another solar system. At the beginning of the six-minute short the audience learns that Mary's planet is suffering from a plague, and Mary is secluded in a castle bedroom. Followed by this extraordinary circumstance: aliens visit Mary's planet and catch the plague, die. One night Mary escapes outside the castle to nibble freedom and by chance she discovers the alien spacecraft which by accident she activates to travel through a black hole that turns out to be a worm hole in which she becomes pregnant before crashing on Earth and giving birth to Christ. Some special effects would be necessary but Brett felt they were within reach—he knew somebody—so he had his fingers crossed about everything working out in accordance with his grand vision, not meaning to be sacrilegious but outrageous.
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Post by: jenkins on February 23, 2020, 09:34:35 PM
QuoteFinding himself tragically unable to complete Mary was an Alien owing to production problems related to constructing a castle and accurately portraying space travel to the extent of his wishes, in a chasm of frustration Brett felt inspired to write a three-minute short titled Rather Be A Robot Than Be A Human. This he could easily make and the concept was simple: first a futuristic newscast on the fascinating topic of developmental and cognitive robots beginning to learn about the pains of life. Over an exclusive interview an android says, "I can describe the very day, the very moment, in which I truly felt myself grow from being a robot to being alive," and okay the android would just be a human, a friend of Brett's he had in mind, and this would establish that androids look just like humans, can't tell the difference. Second, pull back from the newscast and a person is watching it: the best actor Brett could find for the job, male or female, young or old. The android would look so bummed and as if they couldn't even anything seriously, and they would put a gun in their mouth and pull the trigger. Brett planned to spray red paint on the back wall after the gunshot, Herschell Gordon Lewis-like, but most importantly he would add in the sound effect of scrambled circuits at the time of the brain blood splatter. That sound effect, he felt in his soul, would promote the audience to consider the existential question: what about when robots feel human?
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Post by: jenkins on April 01, 2020, 12:32:29 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/3FeCP3i.jpg?2)

first book with literally a shout bin conversation
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Post by: wilder on April 01, 2020, 12:51:35 AM
Congrats  :yabbse-thumbup:
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Post by: jenkins on April 01, 2020, 03:07:14 AM
xx

two of the best self-descriptions i've coined are "desperate questions, deeper needs" and "interior validation." yet also i remember after My Autobiography Is My Manifesto: Volume One in 8.5x11", which is still and always will be the most outrageous physical design of my life, one i've already written about making in three other books, and the only book i've made not still on sale, i was talking to my friend who owns it and i was you know so embarrassed about it and he said "isn't it what we most love" and he's actually successful btw and interior validation is true but god the pressure that gets released when a person says a nice thing
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Post by: WorldForgot on April 01, 2020, 01:03:30 PM
Yesh!! Can't wait to set it beside Larry
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Post by: jenkins on January 28, 2021, 09:06:10 PM
I'm building a collection of ten poems I'm going to publish on my bday, and I have two friends who will share their own ten. it's just for kicks. I'm sharing this one because it has an Arrival diss

Quote Something Like an Explosion But Not Exactly, Although I'm in Too Much of a Hurry to Stop and Further Explain

I keep suspecting that when I reach the pearly gates Saint Peter
Might ask me if I watched enough Indonesian movies, and I
Must be prepared to tell him that I tried my damn hardest
To watch as many movies as I could. The best life is many lives,

So watch many movies about other lives, since you only live once:
Sheer logic. Every time I begin writing I end up writing about myself.
All of my writing is the continuing adventures of my search for an
Escape from an existential labyrinth. I feel trapped with my life and

I write myself escape routes. I won't die thinking about grammar! I'll die
In an existential maze, with the real exit right around the corner, almost
Made it. I was just about to watch Denis Villeneuve's Arrival but I died
First, oops. No one cares, and I've never committed desperation without

Intentional humor. Never having not been hysterical, I'm used to it.
I'm singing my farewell song as this flaming ship sinks. And what do
The flames matter to a sinking ship? Approaching my end, here I go!
What's inevitable is inevitable, and I'm more a man of lyrics than melody.
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Post by: Robyn on January 29, 2021, 06:56:17 AM
Love it!!

"I feel trapped with my life and I write myself escape routes."
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Post by: jenkins on January 29, 2021, 12:38:18 PM
thanks and now you're my favorite
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Post by: jenkins on January 29, 2021, 04:49:39 PM
this one has a literary reference

QuoteThe Beach Scene

On occasion I want something
Until I have it, and then I regret

Having wanted it. On occasion I
Write a line that doesn't refer

To the previous line. On occasion
I'm trying to flee from a previous

Line. On occasion I'm wanting to find
A way to flee from myself. You know,

I used to treat the epigraph for Sam
Shepard's The One Inside seriously, its

David Foster Wallace quote, "Why
Does no one take you outside and

Tell you what is coming?" But now
I think that question is hilarious.

Have you ever tried to tell someone
What life feels like? And when you

Told them, did they know what to do
With that information? Well, for me

Personally, my feelings are
Abstractions, accidental secret

Riddles that make people scratch
Their noggins if anything. Exactly.
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Post by: jenkins on January 31, 2021, 04:50:49 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/EBn8Bw1.png)

title inspired by Nancy drew book titles. this cover keeps reaching a final draft, current
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Post by: WorldForgot on January 31, 2021, 06:19:48 PM
Fuego!! I did a google search for it as if I could have it teleported onto a bookshelf.
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Post by: jenkins on January 31, 2021, 06:33:53 PM
xx. my ten poems are done but I can't be like "hey I know we set a later completion date but I'm done now so hurry up" lol right. so now I've gotten around to the title and cover. another cover was brewing but Alessandra threw down her friend's painting and it just does look exactly like the cover of a poetry book to us. it'll be matte 6x9. total poetry book

again, this cover had like five final drafts, and I almost changed this one too but I think I'll leave it. I had been thinking about "The Endless Mystery of Everything Everywhere" or "The Eternal Mystery of Everything Everywhere" and while timelessness does apply to the situation I'm not sure it belongs in the title.
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Post by: jenkins on February 09, 2021, 09:09:41 PM
this is actually my friend's poem. he's buying a house with his wife and they can't afford LA so they're looking elsewhere. the bold is my emphasis because this line just cracks me up

Quote
We might be moving
out of the city—
already left Hollywood proper a few years back
in favor of the cheaper seats in NoHo
Now we're aiming for cheaper still
this move runs counter to everything I believed in five years ago
hell, even two years ago I was hesitant to move to here
Now we're looking at places like
Lake Hughes
Filmore
Frazier park
the country basically
California country
of which I have experience camping in but not so much like day to day
And like I said, this is unlike the near past me
I never even knew about nature 'til last year and now I can't shut up about it
always telling people how nature's the answer to our troubles
indigenous ways and respect for all things
corporations are a scourge
But look at me, going on about it to you
you've heard all that shit before
You even have your life all figured out
Well, 
           I'm still working things out on my end, but
some future awaits me
Maybe one day
                in a snowy land of California hillbillies you'll see me
standing in the yard
looking as lost and out of place as I am write now

I don't know if "write now" is a typo or not but I don't want to ask him about it so I'm leaving it
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Post by: WorldForgot on February 10, 2021, 10:51:08 AM
Dang, I like how that unspoolz.

Quote from: jenkins on February 09, 2021, 09:09:41 PM
I don't know if "write now" is a typo or not but I don't want to ask him about it so I'm leaving it

lol ~
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Post by: jenkins on February 14, 2021, 01:13:31 AM
it's published (https://www.amazon.com/dp/099852056X?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860)
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Post by: WorldForgot on February 15, 2021, 05:53:24 PM
Gonna get this later in the month ^_^
Hype to read. Congratz on another release!
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Post by: jenkins on February 15, 2021, 05:59:28 PM
thanks thanks
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Post by: Alethia on February 15, 2021, 09:03:35 PM
I'll be buying what you're sharing.
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Post by: jenkins on February 15, 2021, 09:21:10 PM
aw thanks guys. there are two lines in morgan's poems that crack me up all the time. and alessandra is a psychiatric social worker so her poems are rather leveling
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Post by: Alethia on February 17, 2021, 04:34:29 PM
Bought mine! Arrives Monday. Excited to dive in.  :yabbse-smiley:
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Post by: jenkins on February 17, 2021, 04:55:46 PM
warms my heart to witness you people making fantastic decisions
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Post by: WorldForgot on March 04, 2021, 01:27:40 PM
Two of my favorites, since we're sharing and what not:
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Post by: jenkins on March 04, 2021, 01:29:52 PM
kisses

yeah the beginning of that Morgan poem is what I often remember and makes me laugh
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Post by: WorldForgot on March 04, 2021, 01:37:16 PM
Sent that one of morgan's and The End of the Tunnel is the Beginning of the Light to some friends. So good X_X
Dig how the three of you are using the form in different aspects yet the book does feel like it inhabits the same pinball machine.
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Post by: jenkins on April 15, 2021, 12:53:49 PM
Folk Writing by an Internet Person: Volume 2 of My Autobiography is My Manifesto  (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B092KN9VBV?ref_=pe_3052080_397514860)

read about: my writing, my job, my apartment, my mother, my cousin, my boss, my existentialism, various adult movies, a couple books, my sex life, a few friends, and a couple xixax people. definitely a further entry in my own Literary Universe. overall I wrote this for Therapy
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Post by: wilberfan on April 15, 2021, 05:11:32 PM
Wait, that's YOUR book?  BY you?   Do we need to start with Volume 1?   Will there be capitol letters at the beginning of sentences? 
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Post by: jenkins on April 15, 2021, 06:32:09 PM
Quote from: wilberfan on April 15, 2021, 05:11:32 PM
Wait, that's YOUR book?  BY you?

totally. for the last five or so years I've been constructing my self-reflective literary universe

Quote from: wilberfan on April 15, 2021, 05:11:32 PMDo we need to start with Volume 1?

no, because every previous book of mine, including my unselfpublished books, are briefly described in Volume 2. you'll miss some material but that's no big deal, and basically every book of mine uses my life experience to demonstrate how life is hard, I am partially absurd, and I keep going: that's the perspective in all of them, different materials but same perspective

Quote from: wilberfan on April 15, 2021, 05:11:32 PMWill there be capitol letters at the beginning of sentences?

lol, yes, in this one. the 5x8 version of Volume One (https://www.amazon.com/automanifest-shawn-michael-sullivan/dp/0692743413/) doesn't though, so there's another reason for you to avoid that one. yet another joke here is that the 8.5x11 version of Volume One (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0692664769/), the original version, does have capital letters, but it's by far the most outrageous thing I've ever made, and the only book of mine I've taken off the market
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Post by: WorldForgot on April 15, 2021, 06:35:10 PM
Noice! Hype about it, thanks for sharing, as alwayz
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Post by: jenkins on April 15, 2021, 07:08:43 PM
<3
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Post by: jenkins on July 26, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
this week I'll join in as a commentator on the book show I work for. I'll be a part of the conversation. the guest is Rikki Ducornet and I was asked if I wanted to. I couldn't turn that down. the show host was first called a great reader by Norman Mailer, and he calls me a great reader. the future this may lead to is a shadowy place I can't describe until its lights turn on, but I think Ducornet is so dope this would be great even as an isolated incident. her new book is titled Trafik and it's sci-fi, the two protagonists are robots, but not like Ishiguro robots, not like Klara, these robots are adults

the proof of my recent book is set to arrive Wednesday. at this point it's abundantly clear that I write for myself and that's going well since it's up to me. my new book is titled A Dreamed Morning on Some Inner Pacific Ocean. it quotes Just Withnail who sent me the sweetest comments about my last book, honestly his comments touched me tremendously is why they're in the new book
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Post by: wilberfan on July 26, 2021, 07:38:05 PM
Cool!  "Bookworm"?
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Post by: jenkins on July 26, 2021, 07:40:57 PM
yeah. I first appeared in a brief intro to a Horacio Castellanos Moya conversation I selected to reair during troubled pandemic days, but this will be my entry as a participant
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Post by: wilberfan on July 26, 2021, 07:46:59 PM
Airing this week, or just prerecording for later?

[Just noticed this episode (https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/bookworm/jack-skelley-dennis-wilson-and-charlie-manson)--which would seem a good tie-in to OUATIH discussions elsewhere here.]
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Post by: jenkins on July 26, 2021, 07:50:47 PM
it'll air and be online next Thursday. I won't link it because I don't want xixax in my workplace's analytics but I have mentioned it. Since I write the show descriptions I'll say that I won't be a part of the show description either. It'll be a normal show just I'm in it
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Post by: jenkins on July 26, 2021, 07:52:05 PM
Quote from: wilberfan on July 26, 2021, 07:46:59 PM
[Just noticed this episode (https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/bookworm/jack-skelley-dennis-wilson-and-charlie-manson)--which would seem a good tie-in to OUATIH discussions elsewhere here.]

Elvis Mitchell's taping with qt was a big deal. Qt first gave the book to Elvis
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Post by: wilder on July 26, 2021, 07:55:42 PM
Congrats jenk, will certainly listen.
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Post by: wilberfan on July 26, 2021, 07:58:03 PM
Quote from: jenkins on July 26, 2021, 07:50:47 PM
it'll air and be online next Thursday. I won't link it because I don't want xixax in my workplace's analytics but I have mentioned it. Since I write the show descriptions I'll say that I won't be a part of the show description either. It'll be a normal show just I'm in it

I've grabbed the pod link.  Is it OK if one of us links to the ep?
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Post by: jenkins on July 26, 2021, 08:02:35 PM
thanks wilder

oh I don't think this place would surge their analytics if a link came around, that's sweet if you want to

of course, god embarrassing if it didn't happen now. But it's lined up to happen
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Post by: WorldForgot on July 26, 2021, 11:47:43 PM
That's so cool, jenkins, about the radio show and the proof, both! I'll be tuning in ~
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Post by: jenkins on July 27, 2021, 12:35:42 AM
thanks. the show should go well because she's wickedly talented, hella talented, easy to compliment. here's an article titled Reading Rikki Ducornet (http://www.dalkeyarchive.com/reading-rikki-ducornet/) that Brian Evenson wrote, and it says this and that but to simplify it he's saying that because she's so underappreciated something must be wrong with our time period. he blames American minimalism and dirty realism. it's funny because she emailed me to say she heard about me and she asked what I write about, so I told her about my literary universe and then she stopped responding lol. I'm going to have a hard time with the fiction people because nonfiction has been the enemy of fiction since at least the 90s. her previous book is about a feral child and just like with any type of relationship timing is a big factor, and coming across her at the time of Trafik was great timing. the land of sci-fi suits her well since she has such tremendous capabilities as a creative writer
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Post by: jenkins on July 28, 2021, 09:02:15 PM
I understand why he doesn't write down what he'll say. really what I'm picturing is expressing my honest appreciation and I have to go off-script to sound most real because I'm not an actor so in other words if I was reading it I'd sound like an actor. all these things you have to think about. experiencing from the inside confirms mainly what I hear about. she's of course so talented that her talents have been wonderfully described, and I hope to hang on to the essentials during the taping. "singularly inventive," "a buoyant voyage through outer space and inner longing, transposing human experiences of passion, loss, and identity into a post-Earth universe. " that's from the publisher, and usually a publisher blows it. but she's so good you really want to make sure you express that. I remember with Castellanos Moya when I actually started speaking out loud I sounded different than I thought I would. but i was reading that time too. I'm not worried and I'm not sure how it'll turn out
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Post by: wilberfan on August 02, 2021, 10:44:50 AM
Quote from: jenkins on July 26, 2021, 07:13:06 PM
this week I'll join in as a commentator on the book show I work for. I'll be a part of the conversation. the guest is Rikki Ducornet and I was asked if I wanted to. I couldn't turn that down.

Did this episode air last Thursday (the 29th)?  I don't see it listed on the website yet...
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Post by: WorldForgot on August 02, 2021, 10:56:11 AM
It'll air/be online on the 5th ~
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Post by: Axolotl on August 05, 2021, 03:44:52 AM
Wow. Started listening to the ducornet ep because I like her and immediately ran here. Silverblatt introducing jenks as a recurring cohost from now on, jenkins unconsciously drawing from silverblatt's speaking style, talking really perceptively with a great author, amazing. Have been a fan of Michael for a decade, one of the greatest readers of the past quarter of a century. Congrats!
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Post by: wilberfan on August 05, 2021, 01:16:47 PM
Quote from: Axolotl on August 05, 2021, 03:44:52 AM
Silverblatt introducing jenks as a recurring cohost from now on, jenkins unconsciously drawing from silverblatt's speaking style, talking really perceptively with a great author, amazing.  Congrats!

:bravo:
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: jenkins on August 07, 2021, 02:46:17 PM
i've been at xixax for a number of years in a few forms, and some of you are such basically real friends of mine that you've been in my books in a few forms too. in fact one unpublished book quoted an entire shoutbox conversation. that conversation wasn't the best part of the book (the abrupt realism didn't mesh my lyrical consciousness) but like all parts of all my books i support it. but so anyway xixax has occupied a portion of my life and it's hard to let go of parts of your life, but it's become apparent to me that i need to let go of xixax. we've sadly gone out of sync and this time, through pms, it's become apparent to me how out of sync we are. i've, actually many times, left and returned, but it's now clear to me that this isn't a place i can return to. listen, i'm me, of course there's a goodbye letter, of course i mean it, the emotional parts, the appreciative specifics especially. for my own sake i absolutely must walk away and not return, from the board, not from you, and although posting this is potentially more embarrassing than pm'ing, it's also less vulnerable, and what i'm getting at is i'll be just an email away if we're not already connected in some form, trashculturemutantjunkie@yahoo.com. that's funny it's yahoo. anyway some of you already speak with me outside of here and just if you don't that's where i'll be

warm wishes to all of you, here and in your full life too
Title: Re: i'll be sharing
Post by: Robyn on August 07, 2021, 03:57:32 PM
Oooh, that's sad! Haven¨¨t talked to you a lot through PMs, but for me you have always been a big personalty on the board ans I will miss reading about the things you're obviously passionate about. There's a few threads, with little to no other activity, that you have carried with posts that has been very enjoyable to read for me despite only lurking in them,

Anyway, I hope you the best! And it goes without saying that I hope you¨´'ll return someday, if everything feels right for you