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The Director's Chair => Stanley Kubrick => Topic started by: Xx on May 28, 2005, 01:31:30 AM

Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Xx on May 28, 2005, 01:31:30 AM
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Title: Re: The Shining
Post by: Brazoliange on May 28, 2005, 09:35:22 AM
not sure if I can help but I'll give some a shot.

Quote from: flagpolespecial-when jack walks into the empty gold room and sits down at the bar the last thing he says before lloyd appears is something like 'i'd sell my soul for a beer'. i don't believe this is the key to unlocking the secrets of the film. i don't believe they (the secrets) can be explained cept to be descirbed as supernatural occurances but i also don't believe it's a coincidence either.

as memory serves, Jack was an alcoholic. With the help of Wendy he gave up alcohol after hurting Danny. When he gives in to the temptation of alcohol at the Overlook, he's symbolically agreeing with Lloyd to attack his son for being such a "naughty boy" and bringing a "nigger cook" into the hotel. He's also rejecting the help that Wendy had given him in the past and breaking their bond.

The thing that could work against this is the look on his face (a smile if I remember?), which would usually signify that he was happy about this; however, I could see Jack as being that gone by this point in the movie to be almost sadistic.

Here's my question:
Is it even Jack? Has he been posessed by satan, the hotel, Grady, other forces? Or has he really just lost it? I'm thinking that it's Jack, but he's being aided physically by something else. I don't think he'd have had the endurance to go through all the chasing at the end otherwise.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Pubrick on May 28, 2005, 09:43:49 AM
it's no secret the american version is longer.

it's too late now but in the last few months on SBS u may hav noticed they were showing a kubrick movie every week. since i had nothing better to do i checked out the Shining screening. well, dude, it was the AMERICAN version. they had all those extra scenes u mention. including the (dumb) skeletons and cobwebs shot, which is glaring and really unnecessary.

what u get in the longer version is a lot more exposition, often repetitive. u see hallorann actually go to the airport, visit sum friend, useless scenes really.

so yeah, u hav to see both, but the shorter version is easily the winner.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: rustinglass on May 28, 2005, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: flagpolespeciali'm fucking drunk. smashed out of my gawd. ther's this gilr. a whole other story. anyway. pubrikc you likve in austraia fuck dude? i had no idea. whaereabout? i doidnt' watch the sbs thing cos i assummed i 'd seen it all already. fuck. i should go to be.d.

yeah form th scenes analysus of the stuff cut itheaustalian vut seems heaps better. you stook the words right out of m  y moruthh.

this girl i met. her name is kye or kai or something. she's wonderful. night.

not deleting this one, once you're sober
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: jtm on May 28, 2005, 01:29:23 PM
flagpole, ur drunk of ur ass at 8:30 am? we should hang out.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Brazoliange on May 28, 2005, 01:32:55 PM
haha
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Pubrick on May 28, 2005, 10:41:34 PM
Quote from: Jay Tee Emflagpole, ur drunk of ur ass at 8:30 am? we should hang out.
u should read this page http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?p=178586#178586. or just look at his location or anything else in this thread.

flagp, i'm in brizzy.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: jtm on May 28, 2005, 10:49:08 PM
Quote from: Pubrick
Quote from: Jay Tee Emflagpole, ur drunk of ur ass at 8:30 am? we should hang out.
u should read this page http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?p=178586#178586. or just look at his location or anything else in this thread.

iwasdrunkgofuckurface.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: meatball on May 28, 2005, 11:11:27 PM
Quote from: Jay Tee Emiwasdrunkgofuckurface.

At least think of an original excuse.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: jtm on May 28, 2005, 11:31:50 PM
trust me i was. hence the "we should hang out sometime"

go delete some more posts ball eater.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Stefen on May 28, 2005, 11:43:27 PM
I hate when people act like they are drunk and type like a supposed drunken would. I'm guilty of that though. I'm drunk right now and I type exquisite. As a matter of fact, I may type better when I am drunk cause I actually pay attention as to not come off like a fake drunken typer when criticizing drunken typers. We need more drunken posts at xixax. I love that shit. When you are all embarassed the next day and are like "Fuck you, I was drunk, I don't care, quote my shit!" but deep down, you're staring your hands. Cracks me up.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Weak2ndAct on May 28, 2005, 11:48:16 PM
I know what you mean, my grammar/typing gets hella good when I'm drunk.  I can't write worth a damn drunk, but Xixax posting-- that I can do blotto.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: jtm on May 28, 2005, 11:52:40 PM
chances are i'm tipsy during most of my posts.  i'm borderline alcoholic.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Stefen on May 28, 2005, 11:58:03 PM
Well, I drink often and alot. But sometimes I go a few weeks without drinking. My antidrug is definetely alcohol, but I don't think I'm an alcoholic. I just live a very alcohol driven lifestyle. Best forum hijack right here. We've done threads, but whole forums was a massive wet dream. I'm proud. I heard Kubrick was a fan of the juice.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: jtm on May 29, 2005, 01:16:12 AM
thanx to this thread i've decided to try and stop drinking.

still gonna smoke weed god damn it.

edited for alcohol induced poor spelling.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Brazoliange on May 29, 2005, 01:20:36 AM
good  :)
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: SiliasRuby on May 29, 2005, 08:16:30 AM
Alot of these negative reviews are very well written. Like some people I saw the Kubrick Film before reading the book and I have to say both creative endeavors are pretty spectacular on their own. Although, I always wished and wanted more backstory in the film, but that's a personal preference.
Title: The Shining running times
Post by: Pubrick on May 29, 2005, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: flagpolespecialthere's this great kubrick site.
seriously, don't take this the wrong way, but that site has been linked to about a million times already. and it will be linked to again.

i think it's time to add sumthing to the forum subtitle. it's getting ridiculous.

edit: oh yeah, i'm in brisbane, like i said, brizzy. close to the city centre.