I saw the Dirk Diggler Story yesterday...

Started by Link, February 02, 2004, 08:02:58 AM

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Link

The only thing I hold against him is that he hasn't used the guy who played Reed in The Dirk Diggler Story in one of his feature films.  That guy is huge and doofy looking!

Pubrick

speakin of doofy looking fools, has anyone seen Cigarettes and Coffee? man that dude who is talking to PBH almost ruins the damn movie, can he close his mouth???? the whole time it's like sumone is pulling down his lower lip. it's effing distracting and stupit.

(been wanting to get that off my chest for a while)
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kotte

Quote from: Pspeakin of doofy looking fools, has anyone seen Cigarettes and Coffee? man that dude who is talking to PBH almost ruins the damn movie, can he close his mouth???? the whole time it's like sumone is pulling down his lower lip. it's effing distracting and stupit.

(been wanting to get that off my chest for a while)

I didn't even think about that. I think he works...

Pubrick

he looked like a goddamn fish, and his eyebrow action didn't help either.
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kotte

Quote from: Phe looked like a goddamn fish, and his eyebrow action didn't help either.

Haha, yeah well...act alongside Baker Hall and you'll look as fishy as he did.

SoNowThen

So for those who have seen it, is Cigarettes And Coffee amazing, or is it just "that's a decent short film, it's nice to see where he started"?


Because even watching the Polanski shorts on the CC dvd, I thought one was quite good, 2 others were fairly good, and the others were interesting but nothing special. Maybe I'm just not a fan of short films...
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kotte

Quote from: SoNowThenSo for those who have seen it, is Cigarettes And Coffee amazing, or is it just "that's a decent short film, it's nice to see where he started"?


Because even watching the Polanski shorts on the CC dvd, I thought one was quite good, 2 others were fairly good, and the others were interesting but nothing special. Maybe I'm just not a fan of short films...

I wouldn't say amazing...but very good. It's fairly pretentious (The Word :) ) but exciting.

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kotte

Quote from: phlmrlwepretentious? why?

Well, we've had a discussion about what that means. To tell you the truth, I don't know. I just get a feeling of self-importance. I like it. I think it's good but that it tries to run deeper than it is...

Hell, even the man himself calls it pretentious.

Pubrick

i guess it's a silly little movie about the first thing PT ever noticed while doing absolutely nothing.

the idea of the movie is that, before u do anything, u hav to smoke/drink sum coffee. it's obvious why he's embarassed by it now, u know, u don't use ur most profound material on ur first proffessional short. but u get the impression at the time, he did think it was the most profound thing.
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molly

i have a theory that creative people do lots of stuff just as an experiment, like: What will happen if i do_______________?
writers read a lot, they read lots of books that really suck, to see what was the factor of that, so they could avoid it. In the end we see a finished product, but we don't want to know how much of really hard work is behind it. I've read in some magazine that pharmaceutical industry usually tests 5000 substances before gets to the right one. It's not some epiphany, or it's LIKE epiphany, but after you do a lot of work. Film students here make lots of movies that to me look like a pile of shit, but they say they are more experiments with light and equipment in general. They are NOT meant for the ordinary audience.

Link

Quote from: Pspeakin of doofy looking fools, has anyone seen Cigarettes and Coffee? man that dude who is talking to PBH almost ruins the damn movie, can he close his mouth???? the whole time it's like sumone is pulling down his lower lip. it's effing distracting and stupit.

(been wanting to get that off my chest for a while)

:lol!:  :lol!:  :lol!:

soixante

Making short films is like a corporation doing R & D -- Research and Development.  I remember seeing Scorsese's short NYU films, and seeing glimpses of talent, but I didn't feel that I was watching the work of a genius.  It took a few films for him to hit his stride.  Tarantino started directing a low-budget feature, which he abandoned half-way through.  Even if he was disappointed in the results, QT learned a great deal from it.  It is better to make a film, any kind of film, just to get your feet wet, rather than sitting around theorizing about film (which is good up to a point, but you gotta lay it on the line sometime).
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Quote from: Pspeakin of doofy looking fools, has anyone seen Cigarettes and Coffee? man that dude who is talking to PBH almost ruins the damn movie, can he close his mouth???? the whole time it's like sumone is pulling down his lower lip. it's effing distracting and stupit.

He's the cop from Rez dogs right?

mogwai

Quote from: poserismsHe's the cop from Rez dogs right?
why do you ask if you already know the answer? pfft.