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Film Discussion => News and Theory => Topic started by: ©brad on February 22, 2003, 08:45:41 AM

Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ©brad on February 22, 2003, 08:45:41 AM
Originally Stone was going to direct American Psycho with a different script by Matthew Markwalder based on the Bret Easton Ellis novel. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but you can read this version of the script here. It's a really good read, would have like to seen this version. It's a pretty bizarre website...

http://www.whereisoliver.com
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ReelHotGames on February 22, 2003, 05:34:32 PM
I started thinking that it would be cool for some indie fans to pick up their cameras and start making "Quentin Tarantino's The Blues Brothers" or "Francis Ford Coppola's Boogie Nights" you know do scenes from films as if they had been made by other directors, see what could have been done stylistaclly different, who would they have cast etc...

I have a board game I created called "Tinseltown" where each player is a movie studio, at the start fo the game you have studio funds, you draw 3 screenplays from the screenplay cards, and you put them into development, you must attach "talent" cards to the screenplay in order to release it, since it's all random card drawing it's a hoot.

You get to release things like "Abbot and Costello in Sex, Lies and Videotape" directed by Roger Corman, sometimes you have the luckof the draw and get people who might be good for a screenplay you've got and sometimes it's a stinker, which makes it more fun!

But while I love the idea, I also hate that technology alsmost makes it possible to have Humphrey Bogart starring alongside Vin Diesel. While I love the idea of "what if" I want it to remain in fun, not fact.
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: life_boy on February 22, 2003, 07:27:14 PM
I think Gus Van Sant does something like this before he releases a feature film.
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ©brad on February 23, 2003, 07:22:33 AM
Quote from: michael alessandroI started thinking that it would be cool for some indie fans to pick up their cameras and start making "Quentin Tarantino's The Blues Brothers" or "Francis Ford Coppola's Boogie Nights" you know do scenes from films as if they had been made by other directors, see what could have been done stylistaclly different, who would they have cast etc...

I have a board game I created called "Tinseltown" where each player is a movie studio, at the start fo the game you have studio funds, you draw 3 screenplays from the screenplay cards, and you put them into development, you must attach "talent" cards to the screenplay in order to release it, since it's all random card drawing it's a hoot.

You get to release things like "Abbot and Costello in Sex, Lies and Videotape" directed by Roger Corman, sometimes you have the luckof the draw and get people who might be good for a screenplay you've got and sometimes it's a stinker, which makes it more fun!

But while I love the idea, I also hate that technology alsmost makes it possible to have Humphrey Bogart starring alongside Vin Diesel. While I love the idea of "what if" I want it to remain in fun, not fact.

That sounds pretty cool. Anyway we could set it up online and all play?
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ReelHotGames on February 23, 2003, 12:22:31 PM
I'm actually working on it, when I get the engine going I'll let everyone know
Title: Re: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: Pwaybloe on February 24, 2003, 09:40:35 AM
Quote from: cbrad4dOriginally Stone was going to direct American Psycho with a different script by Matthew Markwalder based on the Bret Easton Ellis novel. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but you can read this version of the script here. It's a really good read, would have like to seen this version. It's a pretty bizarre website...

http://www.whereisoliver.com

Yeah, I read that a while back.  I can't imagine what Stone would have done with the adaptation, because the book is nuts (hence the title).  No doubt it would have been infinitely better than the present version on film.

Apparently Stone is a big BEE fan, and according to Avary's website, he loved "Rules of Attraction."
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ©brad on February 24, 2003, 10:14:00 AM
Do you have that link?
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: Pwaybloe on February 24, 2003, 10:34:51 AM
Quote from: cbrad4dDo you have that link?

Sure.  Hold on.

Here: http://www.avary.com/rogeravary/journal/archive/2002_12_01_journalarchive.php

And here:http://www.avary.com/rogeravary/journal/archive/2002_11_01_journalarchive.php
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: bonanzataz on February 24, 2003, 05:13:14 PM
Just curious. What's wrong with the current American Psycho? I really like it. I thought it was funny, clever, scary, and well directed. I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong, I just want to know why you didn't like it.
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: Cecil on February 24, 2003, 05:25:39 PM
i liked it too. but i cant wait to read this oliver stone version.
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: bonanzataz on February 24, 2003, 05:28:18 PM
I didn't mean what was wrong with it compared to Oliver Stone's script. I meant what was wrong with it at all? There seems to be a lot of negatgive attitudes towards it.
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ©brad on February 25, 2003, 05:41:50 AM
I don't know, I thought it was great too.
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: Pwaybloe on February 25, 2003, 08:17:38 AM
Quote from: bonanzatazJust curious. What's wrong with the current American Psycho? I really like it. I thought it was funny, clever, scary, and well directed. I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong, I just want to know why you didn't like it.

I liked the movie too, but I think that Oliver Stone would have done a much better job with the material.  His movies are very surreal, and I just think that style would have been more appropriate.  Has anyone read the book?
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: Gold Trumpet on February 25, 2003, 09:40:18 AM
Well, my negative attitudes toward it and why I find it a very bad movie is that through out the movie, you get the voice over of this guy saying everything he feels as he kills. That's ridiculously dumb as it gives no room for interpretation on the actions and motives of that guy. The movie gives it to us as we just feel everything it says and then it tries to be clever with the ending, when it is just bad ploy to further the insult that we can't do a good interpretation of this guy and why he kills. Thing is though, is that there was so little to the story that they figured they need to do this to make a passable movie.

~rougerum
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 25, 2003, 09:57:53 AM
I dont know, Stone could have easily turned it into NBK 2
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ©brad on February 25, 2003, 12:30:27 PM
Quote from: Duck SauceI dont know, Stone could have easily turned it into NBK 2

How so?
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: Duck Sauce on February 25, 2003, 01:12:07 PM
Quote from: cbrad4d
Quote from: Duck SauceI dont know, Stone could have easily turned it into NBK 2

How so?

Well, I probably should have elaborated. I mean stylistically. You know, quick cuts, over saturation.... I liked the way the movie was made.
Title: Oliver Stone's American Psycho
Post by: ©brad on February 25, 2003, 01:18:33 PM
ahh, i see. well some people like that stuff...

But no, I think the current version is very good.