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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2017, 04:31:05 PM »
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Paul F. Tompkins on Twitter pretty well sums up my thoughts on this statement.

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“I finally see how deeply my actions have affected other people emotionally since they are now affecting me financially.”
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On “Happy Days,” a beloved sitcom from my childhood, a running gag was that the cool character Fonzie was unable to say “I’m sorry.” If only he’d figured out “There’s nothing I forgive myself for!”
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“Hey, you are standing on my foot.”
“Oh, I do not forgive myself for that.”
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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2017, 07:23:00 PM »
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Yeah that's spot-on.

if only our president would face the same scrutiny. Left wing press has done a mostly stellar job in outing these dirtbags. Right wing media calls the 16 women who Trump assaulted liars and want to elect a child molester to the Alabama senate.

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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2017, 04:06:32 PM »
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How much longer until someone leaks the screener online  :ponder:

But either way, this pains me considering how big a fan I was and how brilliant his material was

It's a shame someone who brings you joy can cause others so much horror

But, this isn't about me or my feelings-- this is about the victims, and I hope they can finally find some peace and solace

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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2017, 10:46:34 PM »
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So much horror? Come on. It' more pathetic than anything.


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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2017, 08:29:33 AM »
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Everyone is now talking again about Pamela Part 1 from Louie, but I think that—even if the revelations add something since, after all, between Louis and Louie only one letter is different—you could see what he was doing—and not doing—in the work itself. I don't buy that he was creating a feminist persona to protect himself or that it was a way for him to be a better predator undercover. But the hypocrisy and denial are in the episodes.

There is a long, long stand up part in Pamela where he talks about violence against women, just before Louie forces himself on Pamela, and it was meant—even before we knew what he did—to reveal the hypocrisy or how whatever you can say/whatever you can think/your acts weren't always connected to that. That, I think, was a conscious part. Of course, I thought at that time that it didn't come from a part of guilt. "What can I do?" is a question that—in a sexual context or not—is something we all ask ourselves—I've felt guilty for stupid things that weren't crimes, but it's hard sometimes to reconcile what you do with what you think...anyway...

BUT. Remember that between Part 1 and 2 and 3, just after the "incident" with Pamela, the show had the episode in his youth, and when it came back to Pamela the incident was totally forgotten, and that was weird at the time. The revelations don't change anything—of course, now we can say that it was denial from CK's part, an impossibility for him to deal with it in his life and in his fiction.

And I remember not liking these episodes because he was erasing the first part and I couldn't buy the Pamela/Louie couple—and it felt gross, and also a betrayal to Pamela's character.

Maybe that the denial of the show was conscious, a way for him to show his own denial, but I don't think so. A few months earlier, he said: "This is not real." And now: "These stories are true."
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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2017, 01:45:37 PM »
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So much horror? Come on. It' more pathetic than anything.

He and his manager actively silenced the women and anybody who brought this subject up. They were blacklisted from being hired by many companies or performing at many venues and festivals. I know of more stories than the ones mentioned in the NYT article. He actively ruined careers by discrediting these women.

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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2017, 03:47:21 PM »
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So much horror? Come on. It' more pathetic than anything.

Who are you to speak for the victims or presume a reaction

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Re: I Love You, Daddy
« Reply #22 on: November 17, 2017, 04:25:25 PM »
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I'm so many people.

 

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