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Title: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Pas on April 05, 2011, 08:42:12 PM
This is a thread I desire will become very long and filled with great suggestions.

I have just seen The List of Adrian Messenger by John Huston. I had never even heard the title mentionned.  It's among the best murder mysteries I've ever seen.

The cameos are beyond awesome too: Kirk Douglas, Frank Sinatra and so much more.

Check it out
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: polkablues on April 05, 2011, 09:46:36 PM
Margarethe Von Trotta's Marianne and Juliane -- it's one of the best movies I ever saw, and I never hear it mentioned. It's also practically impossible to find, which may relate to the last sentence.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on April 05, 2011, 11:38:29 PM
I don't know what you've seen and what you haven't but I love all of these:

Bleeder (1999) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0161292/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0161292/)




Lilya 4-Ever (2002) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0300140/)




Love Streams (1984) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087644/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087644/)




Men Don't Leave (1990) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100134/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100134/)




Pusher II (2004) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0396184/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0396184/)
Pusher III (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425379/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425379/)




The Red Squirrel (1993) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106305/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106305/)




Safe (1995) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114323/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114323/)
Safe trailer - http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3649044761/ (http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi3649044761/)


Seconds (1966) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060955/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060955/)




Shoot the Moon (1982) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084675/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084675/)




Straight Time (1978) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078326/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078326/)




Streetwise (1984) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088196/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088196/)




We Won't Grow Old Together (1972) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069027/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069027/)



Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: 72teeth on April 06, 2011, 02:28:01 AM
Coppola's "Shoot the Moon"?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on April 06, 2011, 02:32:56 AM
No, the 1982 movie w/Diane Keaton and Albert Finney. Are you thinking of One from the Heart?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: 72teeth on April 06, 2011, 02:36:15 AM
no, Sophia C has a short called "Shoot the Moon"... so promising  :elitist:
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: squints on April 06, 2011, 03:51:29 AM
Quote from: wilderesque on April 05, 2011, 11:38:29 PM
I don't know what you've seen and what you haven't but I love all of these:

Bleeder
Lilya 4-Ever
Love Streams
The Red Squirrel
Safe
Seconds
Shoot the Moon
Straight Time
Streetwise
We Won't Grow Old Together


so not familiar with any of these other than a couple..directors, years?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jerome on April 06, 2011, 08:20:56 AM
Quote from: 72teeth on April 06, 2011, 02:36:15 AM
no, Sophia C has a short called "Shoot the Moon"... so promising  :elitist:

do you mean Lick the Star?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: JG on April 06, 2011, 08:36:20 AM
I definitely second Straight Time.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: squints on April 06, 2011, 09:59:08 AM
Quote from: wilderesque on April 06, 2011, 03:59:47 AM
Edited above post.

Thanks man!


Oh and Straight Time, fuck yes, everyone should see that. It features a young gary busey fresh from my alma mater and a skinny kathy bates!

In fact, i had a marathon for myself a couple years ago where i just watched EVERYTHING Dustin Hoffman was in in the 70s,
i mean from 1969 to 1979 he was in -
Kramer vs. Kramer
Straight Time
Marathon Man
All the President's Men
Papillon
Straw Dogs
Little Big Man
Midnight Cowboy
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Pas on April 06, 2011, 10:42:35 AM
I sense this will become an epic thread. Already filled with great looking cinema I'd never heard of.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 06, 2011, 12:32:05 PM
The Sea That Thinks

I saw this at a film festival a long time ago, and it remains one of the most mindblowing movies I've seen. The movie's press emphasizes the optical illusions (no CGI was used), but there's much more to the movie. Think Pi meets Waking Life meets Synechdoche NY. Or something like that.

Here's the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkAb2nRrrp0

You can buy the movie (http://www.dezeediedenkt.nl/htm/english/dvdform-en.htm) on the website, but it's in PAL (not NTSC).

I just checked and there are actually some torrents for the movie (though they may not be seeded well). I'd imagine that's the only way you can see this.

I just found this very good review from the New York Times:

Consciousness, the individual's perception of reality, and humans' place in the universe are among the underlying themes of this philosophical Dutch feature. Bart (Bart Klever) is a screenwriter whose latest project is a script entitled "The Sea That Thinks." What he writes is what's happening around him, and in time what he's writing begins to affect what's around him, as his screenplay becomes layered with increasing levels of notes and observations about the reality of his life. As reality begins to turn on him, Bart finds himself caught in a variety of strange illusions that lead him to wonder just what is real and what is not. While the film's reflexive, self-referential nature straddles a fine line between fiction and reality, this didn't prevent De Zee Die Denkt from winning the VPRO Joris Ivens Award at the 2000 {~International Documentary Film Festival} in Amsterdam. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: The Perineum Falcon on April 06, 2011, 01:03:42 PM
That looks fucking brilliant, JB. I seem to remember you or someone like you talking about this before, in relation to Gondry's use of forced perspective in Eternal Sunshine. It was impressive then, when they were only still photographs, but to see it in motion is a different animal.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention, JB, and Pas: excellent thread!
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Stefen on April 06, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
I've seen all of these. Actually wrote my college thesis on the most obscure one. Not that impressed, guys.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on April 06, 2011, 04:43:46 PM
Check out Andrzej Zulawski's movies if you want to trip out.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0958558/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0958558/)

L'amour braque (1985) trailer - http://www.mondo-vision.com/braquetrailer.php (http://www.mondo-vision.com/braquetrailer.php)

La femme publique (1984) trailer - http://www.mondo-vision.com/publiquetrailer.php (http://www.mondo-vision.com/publiquetrailer.php)

L'important c'est d'aimer (1962) trailer - http://www.mondo-vision.com/daimertrailer.php (http://www.mondo-vision.com/daimertrailer.php)


Also, John Huston's movie Freud (1962) with Montgomery Clift is kind of interesting. Bit of a Twilight Zone vibe.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055998/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0055998/)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXPynaBHwA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXPynaBHwA)
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: squints on April 06, 2011, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: Stefen on April 06, 2011, 03:48:58 PM
I've seen all of these. Actually wrote my college thesis on the most obscure one. Not that impressed, guys.

lawlz. Have you seen The Matrix? oh man that shit is craaaazzyyy!
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Stefen on April 06, 2011, 05:10:43 PM
^who's in it? trailer?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 06, 2011, 06:26:01 PM
Alright. I gave Pas a new avatar.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Pas on April 06, 2011, 07:36:27 PM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on April 06, 2011, 06:26:01 PM
Alright. I gave Pas a new avatar.

haha i like it. John Huston is awesome, i'll watch The Kremlin Letter tonight i think.

Ps: wilderesque; good post again. I'd like a small personal "review/preview" of the films but the imdb links and trailers are sweet.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Stefen on April 06, 2011, 07:41:48 PM
Is that John Huston? Thought it was Anjelica. HHAHAHAHA.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Fernando on April 07, 2011, 11:09:39 PM
Quote from: Pas on April 05, 2011, 08:42:12 PM
I have just seen The List of Adrian Messenger by John Huston. I had never even heard the title mentionned.  It's among the best murder mysteries I've ever seen.

The cameos are beyond awesome too: Kirk Douglas, Frank Sinatra and so much more.

Check it out

what are the odds, TCM just ran this and saw it based on your recommendation, I dont think Kirk qualifies as a cameo, Frank and the others at the end do, btw, seeing they take off their make up at the end is odd, something we wouldn't see in these days.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on April 07, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
I just saw Corndog Man for the first time.  I had heard the title before, but holy hell, what a bizarre movie.  Pitch-black comedy, with some genuinely powerful moments because of Noble Willingham basically owning it the whole movie. 

I was going to post the trailer, but it's awful and spoils a lot.  This movie is great to just wander into so the darkness and comedy can speak for themselves.  Basically what's worth knowing is that a boat salesman starts receiving phone calls from an unidentified customer who keeps asking more and more particular questions about a potential boat sale, and gradually these calls morph from specific questions regarding the boat to very personal questions about him.

The upside is: it's on Watch Instantly!
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Pas on April 08, 2011, 06:41:58 AM
Quote from: Fernando on April 07, 2011, 11:09:39 PM

what are the odds, TCM just ran this and saw it based on your recommendation, I dont think Kirk qualifies as a cameo, Frank and the others at the end do, btw, seeing they take off their make up at the end is odd, something we wouldn't see in these days.

like it at all? Some people told me it really wasn't that good haha! I liked the first half definitely more than the second half but still. I don't think George c Scott made a super performance but i was alright and some parts were great. Frank sinatra's cameo was neat. Robert Mitchum too.

When Douglas play the piano and LeBorg looks at knowing he's lost, that was well played
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Fernando on April 08, 2011, 11:01:56 AM
yeah I liked it, maybe not as much as you to call it on of the best, but I was entertained all the way through, it was actually perfect for a thursday night at home.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Pas on April 08, 2011, 12:14:05 PM
I don't know why but the whole list thing did it for me. I'm told this movie is kinda of a Hounds of Baskerville rip-off. Maybe I liked it so much because I didn't see a lot of old school mysteries like this one. I always loved stories about war secrets and conspiracies and whatnot. This one did the trick for me. Plus Adrian Messenger was headed for good old Montreal!
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: samsong on April 09, 2011, 07:23:26 AM
going off of wilderesque's zulawksi rec, possession is fantastic and the only one i've seen.  there's a scene where a young, disheveled sam neil looks uncannily like pta.  this movie's really insane.

the ruggles of red gap - an early leo mccarey comedy, one of the funniest i've seen.  really bizarre performance by charles laughton.

portrait of jennie - william dieterle's paean to artistic inspiration/expression by way of a ghost-cum-love story starring joseph cotton and jennifer jones with a small role for lillian gish.  haunting and beautiful.

el - the first film bunuel made in mexico and one of his best.  could easily be taken as a pre-cursor to vertigo.

will success spoil rock hunter? - frank tashlin's masterpiece, a live action cartoon satire of 1950s america

the ballad of narayama and the profound desire of the gods - my favorite shohei imamura films
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: md on April 13, 2011, 03:37:29 AM
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on April 06, 2011, 12:32:05 PM
The Sea That Thinks

I saw this at a film festival a long time ago, and it remains one of the most mindblowing movies I've seen. The movie's press emphasizes the optical illusions (no CGI was used), but there's much more to the movie. Think Pi meets Waking Life meets Synechdoche NY. Or something like that.

Here's the trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkAb2nRrrp0

You can buy the movie (http://www.dezeediedenkt.nl/htm/english/dvdform-en.htm) on the website, but it's in PAL (not NTSC).

I just checked and there are actually some torrents for the movie (though they may not be seeded well). I'd imagine that's the only way you can see this.

I just found this very good review from the New York Times:

Consciousness, the individual's perception of reality, and humans' place in the universe are among the underlying themes of this philosophical Dutch feature. Bart (Bart Klever) is a screenwriter whose latest project is a script entitled "The Sea That Thinks." What he writes is what's happening around him, and in time what he's writing begins to affect what's around him, as his screenplay becomes layered with increasing levels of notes and observations about the reality of his life. As reality begins to turn on him, Bart finds himself caught in a variety of strange illusions that lead him to wonder just what is real and what is not. While the film's reflexive, self-referential nature straddles a fine line between fiction and reality, this didn't prevent De Zee Die Denkt from winning the VPRO Joris Ivens Award at the 2000 {~International Documentary Film Festival} in Amsterdam. ~ Mark Deming, Rovi

Just watched this...its absolutely brilliant and a precursor to Adaptation.  In fact it makes Charlie Kaufman seem pretty tame.  The optical illusions are great, like MC Escher picked up a camera and mindfucked us.  The aerial car driving shot is absurdly clever...still not sure how they pulled that off.

I was able to download it by googling "the sea that thinks hotfile"...actually I've been downloading all my movies that way.  Pay the 8 dollars for a subscription...it so convenient, I prefer it to Netflix Watch instantly. 
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: 72teeth on April 13, 2011, 12:14:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36TpKMY3ye4&feature=related

the whole thing's on youtube! Hurry up 10pm, i need to get off work to watch this...
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on April 13, 2011, 12:38:23 PM
Nice... but the aspect ratio looks off.

Probably best to go the filesharing route as md suggested.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Mr. Merrill Lehrl on April 13, 2011, 01:06:56 PM
Quote from: samsong on April 09, 2011, 07:23:26 AM
el - the first film bunuel made in mexico and one of his best.  could easily be taken as a pre-cursor to vertigo.

The first film Bunuel made in Mexico was Gran Casino.  It's perhaps the best movie you've never heard about.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Pas on April 16, 2011, 02:03:05 PM
I'd never heard about The Ballad of Jack and Rose and I liked it a lot. Blind buy for 5$.

Daniel Day Lewis is just wicked in it, as usual. There is a cliché about a "raw" performance but that's one.

Camilla Belle was pretty awful at first but she was okay after a while. Definitely the weakest link.

Highly recommended
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Reel on April 16, 2011, 02:24:14 PM
yeah, PTA had to pick up on the chemistry between DDL and Dano when he was casting for Eli and Paul. That movie lost me, I thought it would've been utterly forgettable if not for Day-Lewis's awesome performance.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: P Heat on June 18, 2011, 12:42:49 AM
Black Moon. I was amazed how good it was. the HD release looks like it could of been shot this decade. Expertly shot

Its one of the best true surreal movies made, out of all the "surrealist" ones I've watched.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on December 17, 2011, 07:32:33 PM
All Is Forgiven (2007)

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A father and daughter are reunited some 11 years after the father's drug addiction tore the family apart.

IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0935086/)



Someone else described this filmmaker as exceptionally emotionally sensitive, and I couldn't agree more. Something about the way she looks at people reminds me of Maurice Pialat (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0681207/), who is one of my favorite filmmakers. This director was born in '81, and actually has a new movie,
Goodbye First Love (http://youtu.be/w_qVBgV23vY)
, coming out soon.

To my knowledge, it hasn't been released on DVD in the US or the UK, and you wouldn't happen to find it here (http://avaxhome.ws/video/tt0935086.html), and the second set of links wouldn't happen to be working. Definitely not.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: tpfkabi on December 17, 2011, 08:21:30 PM
This TV channel seems a 'goldmine' of obscure, weird movies I've never heard of. Sometimes they will even show classic foreign films.
The last one that seemed pretty interesting was:

Out Cold (1989)
with John Lithgow, Teri Garr, Randy Quaid and Bruce McGill
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0098042/
(you may want to avoid paying attention to the Photo section as it gives some spoilers)

Unfortunately, it is of course edited and presented in Full Screen format. I have yet to see it beginning to end, but it seems interesting enough that I would like to see it in it's original form and in Widescreen. The only DVD I see seems to unfortunately Full Screen only.

There seems to be very little information on this film online.
Does anyone own the DVD/know more info on it?

Other strange movies/lost 80's/90's potential classics/B movie schlock I've seen on there:
Meet the Hollowheads
Cutter's Way
Deep Space (1988) - see the greatest bagpipe seduction scene ever...
The Census Taker (1984) - I may have mentioned this elsewhere when I first saw it. It has Garrett Morris from SNL fame. The weird soundtrack made by The Residents reminded me of the UK band, Clinic. Sure the execution of the dialog, acting, editing, etc. was off a lot, but I thought it was an interesting idea. Sometimes it reminded me of the fun trainwreck Troll 2, but then there were some nice sequences. Like Troll 2 this could probably be one of those midnight movie cult type films. If they set up some shows at arthouse theatres where The Residents made the soundtrack live it might generate a little buzz and get a Troll 2/The Room type following.

Some of these are hard to completely judge when they're edited for content, have commercial breaks, etc.. I would like a copy of all of these except Deep Space, though I may want the DVD so I can put the bagpipe seduction scene on YouTube.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: chere mill on December 17, 2011, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: P Heat on June 18, 2011, 12:42:49 AM
Black Moon.

i second that. absolutely fascinating film. louis malle at his most enigmatic.

also want to mention antonioni's identification of a woman. never heard of it until criterion recently put it out. not one of his greatest achievements, but well worth watching.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: BB on December 18, 2011, 08:59:32 PM
Quote from: wilderesque on December 17, 2011, 07:32:33 PMGoodbye First Love

I actually happened to see this at TIFF. Pretty good. Very art house. Very franche.

I can see what you mean about her heightened emotional sensitivity. Small moments, just a glance type stuff. Stylistically kinda like the Dardenne brothers.

Oh, and the lead actress, who is quite the looker (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gu4VOhBEuf0/TdDxNk-_Q4I/AAAAAAAB4N0/kJhjd8MX8i4/s1600/Cannes+Day+54.jpg) (and super young (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1570048/) apparently), gets naked a few times.

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on April 05, 2012, 08:07:49 AM
The State I Am In (2000)

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Clara and Hans are left-wing terrorists, who are chased by the police since almost fifteen years. The puberty of her increasingly rebellious daughter Jeanne imposes a threat on their security, when she falls in love with a boy, who she has met on the beach.

Directed by Christian Petzold
IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0248103/)




Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Reinhold on July 06, 2012, 02:29:00 PM
I just saw this list on twitter and thought it might interest some folks here:

http://www.criterion.com/lists/48458-my-top-ten-discoveries

From the site:

"One of the best and most daunting things about being a cinephile is that there will never be a dearth of films in your back catalog. (The only thing more terrifying than my never-diminishing Netflix and Hulu queues is the thought of all the unknown-to-me important/brilliant/provocative films I have yet to add to my lists.) And one of the most gratifying things about working at Criterion has been the number of discoveries I've had: films I'd always intended to see, or in some cases hadn't even heard of before, but which have profoundly affected me."
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: tpfkabi on July 06, 2012, 03:44:01 PM
House and Symbio...have both been shown on TCM Underground fairly recently. That is a pretty good place to check in on for rare and unusual films.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Reel on July 06, 2012, 04:05:53 PM
 Starts around 2 a.m. on Fridays, I think? I can never stay up late enough for it, but I finally got cable back in my room, so I'm excited to watch it tonight. A couple weeks ago I caught some of 'The Town the Dreaded Sundown' a 70's slasher I'd only heard in passing when Dewey mentions it in Scream. I liked the parts I saw, but couldn't finish it. Made me wish I had DVR.

I broke my 'House' cherry over the weekend. Liked it, what else can I say? It was great. Any other scary movies by that dude I should check out? 70's Japanese horror in general?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: tpfkabi on July 07, 2012, 10:44:34 AM
Yeah, I have several movies from Underground on my DVR I still haven't got around to watching yet. If they sound interesting I may just record them on a DVD-R.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on August 03, 2012, 02:43:41 AM
Richard Loncraine's The Haunting of Julia (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074611/) aka Full Circle (1977) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074611/)

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After the death of her daughter, Julia Lofting, a wealthy housewife, moves to London to re-start her life. All seems well until she is haunted by the sadness of losing her own child and the ghosts of other children.


Jeremy Richey made a post (http://mooninthegutter.blogspot.com/2007/09/overlooked-classic-of-week-full-circle.html) over at his blog The Moon in the Gutter about Full Cricle back in 2007, and more recently posted screencaps (http://mooninthegutter.blogspot.com/2012/06/searching-for-perfect-full-circle.html) comparing the various transfers of the film -- including the most recent HD version, which I've copied a few of below. Up until recently (the past few months) the film was only available via VHS copies and an equally muddy widescreen print.

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(click HD cap for full size)

The movie is now streaming on Netflix in HD.

Here's a quote regarding the score from this interview (http://www.spectacularoptical.ca/2012/07/an-interview-with-colin-towns/) with the film's composer, Colin Towns, which also describes a certain depressive tone the film has that makes it especially unique:

Like Nicolas Roeg's moody grief-horror film of a few years earlier Don't Look Now, what pervades Full Circle is the dread of disassociation, of dis-integration. The grieving parents of both films see ghosts they want to see, ghosts they hope can absolve them of guilt. And in both films, that elusive miniature presence that they follow and chase is not a friendly one. Towns' music underscores that beckoning mystery with a sad, suicidal anxiety that is not easily shaken off.

Here's the title theme:




Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on September 11, 2013, 11:05:30 PM
Jeff Lieberman's Remote Control (1988)

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A video store clerk stumbles onto an alien plot to take over earth by brainwashing people with a bad '50s science fiction movie. He and his friends race to stop the aliens before the tapes can be distributed world-wide.

I bought this blind the other week and really enjoyed it. Check out restored clips from the movie in the first 45 seconds of this video (http://processblue.tv/2/) embedded over on Process Blue's website (the same restoration facility that works on titles for Vinegar Syndrome). On a visual level it's a total time capsule, the ultimate 80s flashback (in a good way) but I was surprised by how great the actors were, especially Deborah Goodrich, who I wish would have continued to have an acting career.

The blu-ray is limited to 1,000 copies, and can only be ordered directly from Jeff Lieberman's website (http://jeffliebermandirector.com/purchase.html).

I love the overall look of the movie. Some resized caps from the blu-ray (not mine):

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Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on September 11, 2013, 11:13:26 PM
i love that you love the look. great 80s

in los angeles phil blankenship programs fun movies that most people haven't heard about. he's good at it too, he always wins me. this is his favorite and related to this topic and related to great 80s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gvq292tFYE

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Quote from: wilderesque on September 11, 2013, 11:05:30 PM
Jeff Lieberman's Remote Control (1988)

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A video store clerk stumbles onto an alien plot to take over earth by brainwashing people with a bad '50s science fiction movie. He and his friends race to stop the aliens before the tapes can be distributed world-wide.

I love the overall look of the movie. Some resized caps from the blu-ray (not mine):

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Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on September 14, 2013, 05:12:38 AM
wilderesque,
magnetism: today blankenship & co. made first announcements for a theater's october "the united states of horror" series (nightly midnight movies set and made in a dispersal of states) and the third movie is jeff lieberman's just before dawn -- oregon and 1981

you can youtube the trailer but that's not going to help. not a trailer-made movie. there's a dance scene to watch (twist ending) and you can see some characters under a waterfall. from this movie and on youtube there are clips of characters dancing and characters standing under waterfalls, so i understand why it was selected by blankenship. cinephile style, note the composer was brad fiedel, at a point three years before the terminator, then fright night, then blue steel, then t2:jday. sometimes in the right place and in the right moment you can maybe have an entire audience think about how they're watching an oregonian horror movie from 1981, and the score is by the t2 person

i'll attempt to go see it, with a room full of people, and share what that's like
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on October 06, 2013, 02:50:44 PM
wilder,

a description of the end of just before dawn

she punches the slasher inside his mouth, such that she lodges her first in the slasher, and she holds her fist there until that kills the slasher -- she holds her fisted hand inside the slasher's mouth for such a long time and to such a degree that you can see his body shake and see her personal trembling and it's rather unexpected and horrible and the slasher dies from it all. she takes her arm out of his deadmouth and her arm is salivated and she stares at it. there's another character, a male, and the male has been crying. he wasn't strong. there's a series of shots as the characters recover from the mentioned. many emotional shots of the two characters in the woods by the slasher's dead body. her emotion: holyfuck i just did that, i'll be damned. the last shot is her, then pan to the skyline to see those trees in sunrise light

if you can (i bet you can), please see the end. it' something
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on October 06, 2013, 03:38:23 PM
Thanks for the recommendation...that sounds extremely fucked up. Lieberman connection aside, the description on this page (http://campblood.org/Reviews/Review%20-%20Just%20Before%20Dawn.htm) is also piquing my interest...

QuoteBut the element of "Dawn" that really sets it apart from the rest is the character arc of the "last female" [...]. At the onset, she is like a lesbian Girl Scout denleader, complete with a sensible French Twist and trousers. But as the story progresses -- or, one might argue, to progress the story -- she becomes more feminine, tying her shirt up, letting her hair down, wearing makeup and Daisy Dukes. Oddly, it seems that every time we see her do something feminine, some tragedy befalls the group. For example, when she first lets her hair down and starts dancing, the backwoods family blows up their boombox. We see her painting her nails, and immediately Chris Lemmon is killed. The makeup itself is a major plot point; no one sees the killer stowaway on their camper because Red is hogging the mirror. By the end of the film Connie is tarted up like a French whore, and even goes so far as to apply a fresh coat after being knocked out of a tree and then nearly smothered by the evil fattie. It is in this easy, breezy, beautiful Glamourshots getup that she confronts the final baddie, literally stuffing her fist down this throat as her patently useless boyfriend watches, blabbering like a baby.

What the fuck is going on here? We see a butchy girl (usually a sign of strength in these films, as opposed to the hair-flipping hoardes of bimbo victims) who finds her inner tart, and in this discovery finds strength [...]. Quite a far cry from the usual character arc of the "last girl", who is almost always masculinized as she finds her strength, a point which my friend Bryan notes is a backhanded misogynist statement: in order for a woman to be strong, she much become a man. Here we've got just the opposite, and it is absolutely mind-boggling to watch.

I'l try to watch it later tonight.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on October 06, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
that's a great read. her daisy dukes are impressive, andbut please don't pause for them

i might not've gone to see just before dawn if you hadn't brought up jeff lieberman. he's a discovery. it seems like my bad that i haven't already heard of him or seen his movies -- the only works of his i've already seen are related to 'til death do us part. he helped on 'til death do us part! this fucking guy

remote control was worth seeing, i don't even have to ask. the just before dawn theater is also showing his movie squirm, and now i'm way more likely to go see squirm. and from imdb, this seems like a must:

QuoteLieberman made his debut as a writer-director with the excellent and inspired revolt-of-nature killer-worm outing Squirm (1976). He followed this substantial drive-in hit with his best and most beloved film to date, Blue Sunshine (1978), which tells the extremely absorbing and original tale of a bunch of hippies who take a lethal form of LSD that causes them to lose their hair and become insane psychotics 10 years afterward.

!!!. happy about lieberman
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on October 06, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
I rented Blue Sunshine a while back but remember feeling like it failed to live up to its premise, might revisit it if Dawn delivers.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on October 07, 2013, 03:46:45 AM
watched satan's little helper and i'm so frazzled now. there's nothing to say about it

keeping my hopes for lieberman's earlier movies, and promising never to watch satan's little helper again
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: tpfkabi on October 23, 2013, 12:33:15 PM
I got a lot of delayed Notifications today, including this thread.
I'm kinda interested in Remote Control. The director discounted both versions $8 on eBay, so I might get it. The eBay listing doesn't say anything about them being signed and numbered though.
Is this corny in the way Troma stuff is? I hope not.

I see that Alex Winter's Freaked was re-released.
I have it somewhere, recorded off of TCM, but haven't watched it.

Some things on my IMDB Watchlist:

The Dark Backward (1991)
Dead Heat (1988) - There must be similarities with RIPD, because it is brought along with obvious MIB comparisons.
Class Reunion (1982) - I want to see this since John Hughes had a hand in it. Lampoon horror spoof from what I take.

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on October 23, 2013, 01:27:43 PM
Quote from: tpfkabi on October 23, 2013, 12:33:15 PM
Is this corny in the way Troma stuff is? I hope not.

I don't think I've seen a full Troma movie, maybe not even more than clips, but my first thought is that they don't seem at all alike. tkmj can probably answer this better than me.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on October 23, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
lol noo :( most want to see their high school nuke movie and i haven't. damn, sorry troma

do people receive updates when you post? not a bad idea to receive updates when your fav people post
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Sleepless on October 23, 2013, 02:01:20 PM
Quote from: tpfkabi on October 23, 2013, 12:33:15 PM
I'm got a lot of delayed Notifications today, including this thread.

I had like 20 PM notifications this morning, all for messages sent within the past two weeks. And one thread notification. I'd received them all previously at the time.

Quote from: jenkins<3 on October 23, 2013, 01:36:40 PM
do people receive updates when you post? not a bad idea to receive updates when your fav people post

There's some settings somewhere where you can opt in to receive notification emails for certain posts. I only have them on a couple of old threads but they rarely get posted in so I haven't bothered to unsubscribe. I usually just check the unread posts since last visit.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on April 18, 2014, 03:13:42 AM
why would it not be worth mentioning that British Pathé uploaded 85,000 historic films to YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/user/britishpathe)

described (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10772434/British-Pathe-uploads-85000-historic-films-to-YouTube.html):
QuoteThousands of hours of historical footage showing major events, celebrities and simple day-to-day life from 1896 until 1976 has been uploaded to YouTube

seems like some of this has been chilling there for a while. there's a lot going on, there are channels. just, wow. this is a lot of stuff

an older release i enjoyed watching:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvtxFFj6eDY

a new release that's heavy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVPTXmesMpo
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on April 18, 2014, 01:15:23 PM
[^^midday rementioning, seeing if there're people who wanna "greatest hits" or "enjoyed this example" the collection. they got 85k chances for captivating footage of recentish human history]
[for fans of: ripley's believe it or not, guiness book of world records, thrift shops, antiques, vintage shit, classic movies, old people e.g. grandparents, kittens, chitchat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XzDMlhk4Sw
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on May 12, 2014, 12:04:46 AM
I highly recommend Edward Yang's movie The Terrorizers (1986), which has such gobsmackingly beautiful cinematography I can't even explain. It's available as a region-free, English-subtitled Taiwanese blu-ray via YesAsia (http://www.yesasia.com/us/terrorizers-blu-ray-dvd-english-subtitled-taiwan-version/1024222895-0-0-0-en/info.html) (it comes back in stock periodically), and by...other means if you must. It really deserves to be seen in HD, though.

Below is an extended video essay about the film by The Seventh Art, very much worth watching.

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The lives of anonymous strangers become intricately intertwined in this 1986 effort by late Taiwanese auteur Edward Yang. Following the sudden death of his superior, a doctor frames his colleague in order to succeed as the clinic's director. The doctor's writer wife, meanwhile, is experiencing a mid-life crisis, struggling to finish her next novel while surrendering to the advances of an ex-boyfriend. Elsewhere, a hippie photographer randomly snaps a delinquent girl escaping from a crime scene and becomes obsessed with her. The girl is locked up at home by her mother, and begins making random prank calls, which in turn affect the lives of the doctor and his wife.

The collage of chance encounters in The Terrorizers vividly portrays the degenerating psychic life of the Taipei city dwellers through disjointed narrative and multiple storylines. Set for brief moments against an eye-catching poster of Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? on the wall, the irony constructed by Yang turns out to be all the more poignant, considering how his quiet characters never really speak up amid their simmering rage, before boiling over completely. Similar treatment is given to the film's supposedly dramatic plot elements, such as extramarital affairs, police raids and violence, which are delivered with unusual calmness and tranquility.

As with many other examples of Taiwanese New Wave cinema in the 1980s, The Terrorizers realistically records the people's private sentiment at a specific moment of Taiwan's rapid socio-economical transformation. Nevertheless, the film's depiction of the experience of urban ennui and desperation remains largely universal. No matter how one sees fit to interpret the film's double endings, Yang's vision of urban life looks all but doomed. The director once explained that this is essentially one tragic ending - that somebody would inevitably be hurt - told in two different ways. For a bleak story narrated without any comic relief, it is a fitting conclusion that is at once profound and disturbing.

- Edmund Lee, TimeOut HK


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Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Lottery on May 12, 2014, 12:43:48 AM
Woahhhh, that looks really cool. Will add it to the watch list. Don't think I've seen anything by Edward Yang, including the popular Yi Yi.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on May 30, 2014, 10:56:10 PM
For anyone interested in purchasing The Terrorizers on blu-ray, there's this helpful info via Criterion Forum (http://www.criterionforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=6555&start=25#p467787):

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That reminds me, is there any way to get the Blu-Rays in that series without paying exorbitant prices? Most seem to be out of stock at Yesasia.

I believe JSDVD (http://dvd.jsdvd.com/index.php?language=us) (Taiwanese retailer, I believe) has all of them except Vive L'Amour.

JSDVD may be a good option for anybody looking to get hold of The Terrorizers, because it's gone from YesAsia and possibly everywhere else.

If you haven't ordered from JSDVD before, keep in mind it's a strange ordering process--you order and pay for the product first, then they email you when they've calculated the shipping cost and you pay for that separately. Also, the prices are in Taiwanese currency, I think, so you have to do the conversion. Seems like a good retailer though--the Blu-rays were well packed and shipping was fast.

Here's (http://dvd.jsdvd.com/product_info.php?products_id=26007) the ordering page for The Terrorizers blu-ray on JSDVD. NT$790 comes to about US$26. No idea how much shipping will kill you.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: 03 on June 01, 2014, 04:07:56 AM
when i was very young, i used to just watch entire filmographies of certain directors, so i've known this movie for a long time, as some others here might but i saw 'To Die For' tonight and i realized i forgot how amazing this film is. does anyone else feel this way or am i crazy?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 12, 2014, 01:25:12 PM
wilder,
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Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Axolotl on June 12, 2014, 01:43:55 PM
LSD: Love, Sex, aur Dhoka

Gangs of Wasseypur

The filmographies of Guru Dutt and Mrinal Sen.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: tpfkabi on June 12, 2014, 05:20:46 PM
I really enjoyed The Rain People, the film FCC made before The Godfather.

Also saw this film called Absolute Beginners. British musical from the 80's with David Bowie. 2/3rds through it switches gears. I was really surprised by a long camera take that introduces a lot of the leads. There are places were it looks like it might cut though. Not necessarily 'best,' but there were some cool things about it.

On the opposite side of things - I finally saw Hudson Hawk.
I wonder if a Notoriously Worst Movies of All Time thread would be fun.
Hudson Hawk is so weird. The only thing making it an R is the use of a lot of F-bombs.
If they cut it down to 1, it could have easily been PG-13, or all it could probably be PG.
It has Looney Tunes type sound fx and really bizarre scene transitions.
There's very little adult about it, but that little bit cut kids away from the box office.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 16, 2014, 03:23:27 PM
wilder i'm going to leave my older post up there because i want to remember that i didn't realize this will basically be our symbolic wedding ceremony kinda

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that's ridiculously good. oh that's next level good. that punctures the stratosphere of my emotions, and i won't be able to go. dangit
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: 03 on August 28, 2014, 09:20:38 AM
because i'm not good at writing reviews, and i was simply trying to provide a little information for each recommendation.
edited since for some reason i'm being accused of 'trollery' and 'presenting amazon reviews like my own' in the shoutbox. i tried to make my return pleasant, polite and interesting and bring some cool cinema and music related posts to everyone, but i guess you guys just want to keep hating on me, no matter what. thanks.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on September 15, 2014, 01:01:25 AM
Modern Love Is Automatic (2009)

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About an apathetic nurse who moonlights as a dominatrix, her aspiring model roommate, and the sad, strange world they live in.

Zach Clark's microbudget feature, available to watch for free on vimeo (http://vimeo.com/41780596). Sort of a Ghost world vibe + Solondz/Waters style humor. Start this bitch at 1:30 to skip the opening advertisment.


Trailer (NSFW)

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on January 03, 2015, 06:22:40 AM
Dennis Hopper's Out of the Blue (1980)

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A young girl whose father is an ex-convict and whose mother is a junkie finds it difficult to conform and tries to find comfort in a quirky combination of Elvis and the punk scene.


Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on January 03, 2015, 12:40:54 PM
what super impressed me about the movie is how terrible of an alcoholic father dennis hopper plays. straight up rotten guy. and hopper directed the movie, starred in it, somewhat wrote it. i don't think a lot of artists have that kind of bravery. like imagine gone girl, but david fincher played the rosamund pike part
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: ono on January 03, 2015, 04:43:27 PM
I watched Modern Love Is Automatic this afternoon.  If this weren't a microbudget feature, I can't see it getting made.  Kudos to the director for making it, but he seemed to throw all the rules of story structure out for no reason.  The protagonist was obnoxiously mute and withdrawn.  The framework of the interview felt shoehorned in and there didn't seem to be a reason for it.  We're giving very little motivation for the protagonist's actions.  She changes, falls deep into this lifestyle, and then snaps out of it after getting attacked and then learning that her attacker has died in a deus ex machina of a car accident.  Her roommate undergoes a similar arc, modeling and then stumbling into a sleazy gonzo porn shoot before squirming her way out.  I think the concept was somewhat interesting but the execution was lacking, which is frustrating for a director with so much talent. That I'm writing about this at all shows I'm not indifferent, and it's not bad by any means.  The script just needed much better writing.  A few more polishes would've done it wonders.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: matt35mm on January 03, 2015, 11:43:06 PM
Quote from: wilder on January 03, 2015, 06:22:40 AM
Dennis Hopper's Out of the Blue (1980)

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A young girl whose father is an ex-convict and whose mother is a junkie finds it difficult to conform and tries to find comfort in a quirky combination of Elvis and the punk scene.




I loved this movie! We got to see it here in Austin last year on 35mm as part of Richard Linklater's series of under-rated 80s gems. Linklater would screen these movies and then talk about them for 30 minute afterward, in addition to a 10 minute intro. He told a great, great true story about being there the night that Hopper basically suicide-bombed himself.

I recorded the intro and after-screening discussion, which is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kA4w_GBMowg

If you just want to hear the crazy Dennis Hopper story, that's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fcNSk21x00

And if you want to SEE this Dennis Hopper blowing himself up thing, that's here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh4jm0aYUPM
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: BB on January 04, 2015, 12:52:26 AM
Oh man, so good! Ballsy as hell too! I could've sworn I had posted about it a few years ago when I joined the board, but doesn't look like it (apologies for my former opinions by the way  :oops:). This makes me wanna check out Hopper's kinda shitty-looking 90s output (Catchfire, The Hot Spot, and Chasers) which I don't think I've seen.

Also, that Linklater 80s series looks great! I've been binging on 80s movies for the past couple months after realizing how badly I'd ignored them my whole life. I've just seen almost everything he screened, and those I haven't are on the list.

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on February 05, 2015, 09:48:03 PM


a+
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on March 12, 2015, 01:16:16 AM
why the above got overlooked is beyond me. it's old or something? that's a great short

i don't think it's as impressive as this one. if i made this and i knew people'd seen it without sharing it i'm overexplaining why i'm sharing this. you feel me? it's definitely old and i have no idea how/where/etc people watch online shorts but i'm recommending:

http://www.shortoftheweek.com/2014/10/31/melon-head/
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on March 26, 2015, 12:53:25 PM
Luigi Bazzoni's Le Orme (1975) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071950/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) aka Footprints on the Moon is playing in 35mm at Anthology Film Archives (http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/calendar?view=list&month=03&year=2015#showing-43962) in NY tonight. This movie isn't "good", but has eerily beautiful cinematography by Vittorio Storaro. I'm not going to say it's not weird. This is probably something 03 and jenk would be into.

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The full movie is on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOS8uadu02E). A DVD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Footprints-Moon-DVD-Florinda-Bolkan/dp/B0029TQW66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427391197&sr=8-1&keywords=footprints+on+the+moon) edition is available from Shameless in the UK (review here (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews49/footprints.htm)).

Alice Cespi (Florinda Bolkan) begins to see her life fall apart due to strange memories from childhood when she was forced to watch a film called "Footprints on the Moon" involving an unethical experiment in leaving astronauts stranded on the moon's surface. Alice has terrible dreams and begins to become addicted to tranquilizers. The drugs and her deteriorating mental condition cause her to miss work and she is eventually fired, whereupon she travels to a dilapidated former tourist area called Garma after receiving a mysterious postcard. There, she runs into a girl named Paula Burton (Nicoletta Elmi), who tells her that she looks exactly like another woman, Nicole, currently staying at the faded resort. Alice then encounters a series of strange people and circumstances, all leading her closer to unlocking the possibly deadly mystery.





Some screencaps of varying quality:

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Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: 03 on March 26, 2015, 01:27:10 PM
Quote from: wilder on March 26, 2015, 12:53:25 PM
Luigi Bazzoni's Le Orme (1975) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071950/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) aka Footprints on the Moon is playing in 35mm at Anthology Film Archives (http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/calendar?view=list&month=03&year=2015#showing-43962) in NY tonight. This movie isn't "good", but has eerily beautiful cinematography by Vittorio Storaro. I'm not going to say it's not weird. This is probably something 03 and jenk would be into.

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The full movie is on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOS8uadu02E). A DVD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Footprints-Moon-DVD-Florinda-Bolkan/dp/B0029TQW66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427391197&sr=8-1&keywords=footprints+on+the+moon) edition is available from Shameless in the UK (review here (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews49/footprints.htm)).

Alice Cespi (Florinda Bolkan) begins to see her life fall apart due to strange memories from childhood when she was forced to watch a film called "Footprints on the Moon" involving an unethical experiment in leaving astronauts stranded on the moon's surface. Alice has terrible dreams and begins to become addicted to tranquilizers. The drugs and her deteriorating mental condition cause her to miss work and she is eventually fired, whereupon she travels to a dilapidated former tourist area called Garma after receiving a mysterious postcard. There, she runs into a girl named Paula Burton (Nicoletta Elmi), who tells her that she looks exactly like another woman, Nicole, currently staying at the faded resort. Alice then encounters a series of strange people and circumstances, all leading her closer to unlocking the possibly deadly mystery.





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haha yeah you got me.
i loved this movie, haven't seen it in quite some time.
i feel it had a huge influence on 'the american astronaut' by cory mcabee.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: 03 on March 26, 2015, 02:04:25 PM
anyone seen 'goldberg and eisenberg'? i watched this last week and it is absolutely brilliant. i think its bizarre that this guy, oren carmi, literally has only one film, and he wrote directed and produced it. while watching it, i thought it was done by the same guy as 'big bad wolves', which makes me pretty excited to watch more israeli cinema. commonly referred to as 'israeli coen brothers' which is very accurate. if the plot isnt readily apparent, a very quiet nerdy guy makes a classified ad for a date and it ends up being some asshole thats pulling a joke who eventually tortures the dude mentally and ruins his life, so he goes crazy and fights back.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Tortuga on May 07, 2015, 07:36:31 AM
Quote from: wilder on March 26, 2015, 12:53:25 PM
Luigi Bazzoni's Le Orme (1975) (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071950/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1) aka Footprints on the Moon is playing in 35mm at Anthology Film Archives (http://anthologyfilmarchives.org/film_screenings/calendar?view=list&month=03&year=2015#showing-43962) in NY tonight. This movie isn't "good", but has eerily beautiful cinematography by Vittorio Storaro. I'm not going to say it's not weird. This is probably something 03 and jenk would be into.

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The full movie is on youtube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOS8uadu02E). A DVD (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Footprints-Moon-DVD-Florinda-Bolkan/dp/B0029TQW66/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1427391197&sr=8-1&keywords=footprints+on+the+moon) edition is available from Shameless in the UK (review here (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews49/footprints.htm)).

Alice Cespi (Florinda Bolkan) begins to see her life fall apart due to strange memories from childhood when she was forced to watch a film called "Footprints on the Moon" involving an unethical experiment in leaving astronauts stranded on the moon's surface. Alice has terrible dreams and begins to become addicted to tranquilizers. The drugs and her deteriorating mental condition cause her to miss work and she is eventually fired, whereupon she travels to a dilapidated former tourist area called Garma after receiving a mysterious postcard. There, she runs into a girl named Paula Burton (Nicoletta Elmi), who tells her that she looks exactly like another woman, Nicole, currently staying at the faded resort. Alice then encounters a series of strange people and circumstances, all leading her closer to unlocking the possibly deadly mystery.





Some screencaps of varying quality:

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Thanks for mentioning this one. The film's overall dreaminess works nicely with its occasional giallo insanity.

Funny Kinski appearance too.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on October 02, 2015, 08:15:34 PM
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so, Dallas Buyers Club i was like nah, Wild i was like lol, Café de Flore sounds floral so i always liked the sound of that never saw it, then along with other movie people i first heard about Jean-Marc Vallée from The Young Victoria because Scorsese was a producer and i've never seen that movie either.

then the other day my roommate, who prefers multiplex movies, he told me about and loaned me his copy of C.R.A.Z.Y., and it's impressive man. i'm glad i watch movies sitting down because this movie would've made me fall over repeatedly.

it's a coming of age movie that's My Life as a Dog + The Long Day Closes. it's equals parts cinema and character. of course Scorsese wanted to produce the movie he made after this.

the thing that's scary about watching a movie like this is few people will make a movie this good ever.

this and Gangs of Wasseypur remind me:

a) never say i've already seen the best movies from a year there were to see
b) stop not immediately trusting Scorsese's movie tastes
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: BB on October 03, 2015, 01:19:01 AM
Aw man, C.R.A.Z.Y. was a big deal in Canada. Didn't realize it never really migrated. Excellent picture. Kinda strange how pedestrian his more recent efforts have been.

Did Maelstrom get much play south of the border? Also worth checking out. Denis Villeneuve directing. Came out around the same time.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on October 03, 2015, 02:17:01 AM
there's not another Jean-Marc Vallée movie you'd recommend? this is the only one of his i've seen and i'm currently seducible on this topic.

Denis Villeneuve ruined me with Incendies. i'm emotional as fuck and that kind of drama, it's rude. there's real shit in life and cool story fuck you. that feels like a story and i think it's dangerous to go through life looking for your story. so, like the Paul Haggis Crash. have you rewatched Crash, do you remember how much people disliked it and (elderly) Ebert had to explain himself and (elderly) Oscars voted it best? that year had way too much chat about Crash. i'm glad Incendies wasn't talked about. but Villeneuve has all these movies. i'm not currently seducible to Villeneuve so, i mean, is Maelstrom the one to check out? i promise you Sicario won't win me. Sicario is that good and better and everyone can have it. this is my long bitchy paragraph.

what i learned while reading about C.R.A.Z.Y. is this Top 10 Canadian Films of All Time "a list compiled by the Toronto International Film Festival ranking what are the considered the best Canadian films." hell, that list might've been mentioned at Xixax, act natural. i'm saying i looked at it today with positive curiosity:

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1   Atanarjuat: The Fast Runner   2001   Zacharias Kunuk
2   Mon Oncle Antoine   1971   Claude Jutra
3   The Sweet Hereafter   1997   Atom Egoyan
4   Léolo   1992   Jean-Claude Lauzon
5   Jésus de Montréal   1989   Denys Arcand
6   Goin' Down the Road   1970   Don Shebib
7   Dead Ringers   1988   David Cronenburg
8   C.R.A.Z.Y.   2005   Jean-Marc Vallée
9   My Winnipeg   2007   Guy Maddin
10   Stories We Tell   2012   Sarah Polley
10   Les Ordres   1974   Michel Brault

i feel like i want to see Atanarjuat on the big screen and someone should play it. all that snow, big screen seems better. Mon Oncle Antoine, represent. i like coming-of-age stories as much as Canada. The Sweet Hereafter is the Egoyan they've decided to stick with, i like when the '93 list has The Adjuster at ten. Léolo ok, that's fun enough i wish i could stream it, coming of age. Jésus de Montréal i've never seen, does anyone want to declare now that they love that movie? i think Dead Ringers is Videodrome spelled wrong. My Winnipeg highlights the particular emphasis on Canadian movies talking about being in Canada. Stories We Tell i never saw but i've heard the good things, and Les Ordres was the only movie that's flying with poor distribution, Canada get no respect or what.

that was my intro into saying i ordered this and i'm excited about it, i think i'll like it
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Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: BB on October 03, 2015, 12:01:11 PM
Quote from: jenkins<3 on October 03, 2015, 02:17:01 AM
there's not another Jean-Marc Vallée movie you'd recommend?

Unfortunately, no. Haven't seen any of his work that precedes C.R.A.Z.Y.. And nothing after has really recaptured the same magic. Not that they're bad films or anything. Just that C.R.A.Z.Y. is so good.

On the Denis Villeneuve front, it's hard to say if you'll like it, but Maelstrom is probably my favourite of all his films (haven't seen Sicario yet) and I, too, had difficulty with Incendies. It's narrated by a fish, if that helps?

Atanarjuat is definitely worth seeking out and is quite the big screen experience. Its status as the number one top of all time, though, probably has more to do with cultural baggage than the film alone. TIFF people are like that. Still, excellent.

Denys Arcand is like the Canadian Bergman. Jesus de Montreal is great, but my favourites are The Decline of the American Empire and especially its sequel The Barbarian Invasions, which, I guarantee, isn't featured only because it was too popular (again, TIFF people are like that). I heartily recommend it.

Hope you dig Goin' Down the Road. I still gotta see that sequel.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on October 18, 2015, 06:03:36 PM
Quote from: BB on October 03, 2015, 12:01:11 PMHope you dig Goin' Down the Road.

i miss the people, though they were kind of embarrassing. i recall this movie fondly and while with it i recoiled, so i feel about Goin' Down the Road similar to the traditional teenager's feelings about a parent.

i think it understands human emotions better than it understands cinema, and sometimes i held that against it but sometimes the emotions gushed. there felt like very little separation between the actors and their performances, and it felt like a realistic melodrama, which is impressive and happens under like cosmic frequencies with non-professional actors playing characters similar to themselves

i'm not sure one could shoot these type of emotions these days. i'm not sure we're talented at carrying our emotions anymore. it is perhaps that pop culture now means what human emotions met then, and it's a bit like Clerks means to our times what Goin' Down the Road meant to 1970.

1970. right there at the beginning of the decade. its themes and general aesthetics have a lot in common with 60s naturalism and earth beauty and things like that, but also this type of narrative comes into fruition during the 70s, as to say Cassavetes went from Shadows (59) to Faces (68) to Husbands and Minnie and Moskowitz and A Woman Under the Influence and The Killing of a Chinese Bookie and Opening Night (70-77, Gloria was 1980).

both Goin' Down the Road and Husbands were 1970. in Goin' Down the Road there's a dance club scene and the dancing is perhaps called the chicken dance. everyone is dead serious about dancing like chickens for fun. that's something. the two main characters at one point work reinstalling bowling pins and returning balls, and i hadn't before much thought about bowling alleys before machines.

basically it's a cinematic variation of Kmart realism, and i wouldn't want to live there but i appreciate the sharing of life emotions. i don't know much about the cultural history of Canada and i've never seen it this way. glad i watched the movie

Quote from: BB on October 03, 2015, 12:01:11 PMI still gotta see that sequel.

yeah me too. one day, maybe.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on March 09, 2016, 05:01:22 AM
The Amphibian Man (1962), a Soviet scifi love story with some of the most gorgeous color cinematography you'll find outside the films of Michael Powell, is now available to watch for free on youtube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1c4UEfAEjo) in 720p with English subtitles.

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An almost fable-like story based upon the eponymous novel by Alexander Beliaev. It focuses on a youth named Ichthyander who was surgically altered to survive under the sea. Unlike traditional science fiction movies of the time the film focuses much more on the concept of love won and lost.

Better plot description from Wikipedia, spoilers:

The story is set in a seaside port in Argentina (but filmed in Baku, Azerbaijan SSR), largely among a community of pearl fishers. The protagonist is the adopted son of a doctor/scientist who was sometime in the past forced to save the boy's life by implanting him with shark gills. Thus he is able to live under water, but must keep his secret from the world. The conflict arises from his falling in love with a pearl-fisher's beautiful daughter. His secret is discovered and the girl's stern father attempts to exploit Ichthyander for his ability. Due to being kept caged under water, his ability to breathe in the open air is affected, and he must now permanently live in the sea (at least for several years). Although set free, the lovers are permanently separated from each other.

Although ostensibly a lost-love-tragedy like Romeo and Juliet, the film has a significant focus on greed and commercial exploitation (of the pearl-greedy fishermen), possibly under the influence of Socialist Realism.


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Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Sleepless on March 09, 2016, 10:34:19 AM
This sounds right up my street for many reasons. Thanks for the recommendation!
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on July 27, 2016, 05:13:34 PM
Matt Ross' 28 Hotel Rooms (2012)

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A novelist and an accountant meet while they are traveling for work, and though they both are in relationships, their one-night stand could become something more.

This movie is like a less sentimental version of Before Sunrise, and the chemistry between the leads carries the whole thing to an impressive degree. There's constant tension between how much the character's faces tell you they care about each other, and their inability to explore that outside of the hermetically sealed circumstances of their relationship. A lot of movies exist about infidelities and secret trysts...it's hard to explain what makes this particular story so compelling. A moment halfway through, where they're both drunk and nude on an apartment balcony, Chris Messina playfully shouting down to the street below, his words cut up by her fits of laughter, somehow feels key:

"Your lives turn out the way you thought it would?! Your lives turn out the way you thought it would?!"


The IMDB rating is abysmally low for no good reason. One of those films that slips through the cracks. It's streaming on Hulu (http://www.hulu.com/watch/562324) right now. Makes me want to see Captain Fantastic (http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=13533.0)!


Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on July 27, 2016, 05:40:51 PM
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Saoirse Ronan's grandma?
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on November 01, 2016, 05:59:04 PM
Quote from: wilder on April 05, 2011, 11:38:29 PM
Men Don't Leave (1990) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100134/ (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0100134/)


It's on Filmstruck!!! Paul Brickman's second (and last) movie -- the director of Risky Business. Great score by Thomas Newman.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on November 04, 2016, 11:17:17 PM
Quote from: wilder on May 12, 2014, 12:04:46 AM
I highly recommend Edward Yang's movie The Terrorizers (1986), which has such gobsmackingly beautiful cinematography I can't even explain. It's available as a region-free, English-subtitled Taiwanese blu-ray via YesAsia (http://www.yesasia.com/us/terrorizers-blu-ray-dvd-english-subtitled-taiwan-version/1024222895-0-0-0-en/info.html) (it comes back in stock periodically), and by...other means if you must. It really deserves to be seen in HD, though.

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The lives of anonymous strangers become intricately intertwined in this 1986 effort by late Taiwanese auteur Edward Yang. Following the sudden death of his superior, a doctor frames his colleague in order to succeed as the clinic's director. The doctor's writer wife, meanwhile, is experiencing a mid-life crisis, struggling to finish her next novel while surrendering to the advances of an ex-boyfriend. Elsewhere, a hippie photographer randomly snaps a delinquent girl escaping from a crime scene and becomes obsessed with her. The girl is locked up at home by her mother, and begins making random prank calls, which in turn affect the lives of the doctor and his wife.

The collage of chance encounters in The Terrorizers vividly portrays the degenerating psychic life of the Taipei city dwellers through disjointed narrative and multiple storylines. Set for brief moments against an eye-catching poster of Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? on the wall, the irony constructed by Yang turns out to be all the more poignant, considering how his quiet characters never really speak up amid their simmering rage, before boiling over completely. Similar treatment is given to the film's supposedly dramatic plot elements, such as extramarital affairs, police raids and violence, which are delivered with unusual calmness and tranquility.

As with many other examples of Taiwanese New Wave cinema in the 1980s, The Terrorizers realistically records the people's private sentiment at a specific moment of Taiwan's rapid socio-economical transformation. Nevertheless, the film's depiction of the experience of urban ennui and desperation remains largely universal. No matter how one sees fit to interpret the film's double endings, Yang's vision of urban life looks all but doomed. The director once explained that this is essentially one tragic ending - that somebody would inevitably be hurt - told in two different ways. For a bleak story narrated without any comic relief, it is a fitting conclusion that is at once profound and disturbing.

- Edmund Lee, TimeOut HK


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Now available to rent on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/Terrorizers-Cora-Miao/dp/B01M732STI/) and free streaming with Amazon Prime

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on November 08, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
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it's on FilmStruck and it's tied with Killer of Sheep for me <-serious compliment
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on November 14, 2016, 03:41:33 PM
of course i took FilmStruck's 14 day free trial:

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i almost wrote a post about other things but then i didn't, and i'd already uploaded these photos so
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on March 04, 2017, 12:47:26 AM
QuoteA delightfully aware and exquisite children's tale about the dangers of fascism and the power of self-image, The King and the Mockingbird (Le roi et l'oiseau) tells of a vainglorious king's painting coming to life and deposing of its image-sake. This new king hunts down the also-risen portraits of a young shepherdess he admires and her lover-boy chimney sweep in order to steal her hand. Based on the work of Hans Christian Andersen, this affably subversive animated adventure was scripted by legendary Jacques Prevert (Port of Shadows, Children of Paradise). A wildly inventive treat and apropos fable, the film took decades to see release and was a big inspiration for Studio Ghibli founder Hayao Miyazaki.

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 21, 2017, 01:17:19 AM
you guys what has been the best Hollywood movie since recently.

example titles:

TMNT
TMNT 2
Everest
Pompeii
Oz the Great and the Powerful
Journey 2: The Mysterious Island
Yogi Bear
Jack Reacher: Never Go Back
The Magnificent Seven
San Andreas
The Huntsman: Winter's War
Monster Trucks
Clash/Wrath of the Titans
Jack the Giant Slayer
G I Joe
Gods of Egypt

asking you to openly admit you liked some movie you'd never thought you'd see and later i'll thank you
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: polkablues on June 21, 2017, 01:30:45 AM
I just saw San Andreas a couple months ago and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Between that and 2012 and The Day After Tomorrow, I apparently have an affinity toward movies about absurd global catastrophes bringing an estranged family back together.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 21, 2017, 12:47:14 PM
thanks. i've never seen any of those three movies so i plan to make San Andreas the one. no i think i saw 2012 but wished i was doing something else. but still.

because i haven't found contrary evidence, i'm currently believing Goosebumps is the best recent Hollywood movie
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: polkablues on June 21, 2017, 03:17:26 PM
If you didn't enjoy 2012, I can't imagine you'll enjoy San Andreas much. The key, to me, is to watch them as though you're watching a very dry comedy. The more self-seriously they treat the spectacle, the funnier and more entertaining they become.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 23, 2017, 07:35:57 PM
response to San Andreas:

i felt strongly compelled toward liking San Andreas because i thought normal people were going to tackle impossible scenarios, and that's the essence of power derived from religion and cinema

i knew none of it was going to be believable so what i wanted to know was the Hollywood stuff.

the first shot doesn't have a person, it's hills. there's the world. then a car on the street. and that takes me into this wild car crash which i think steals from both the Wachowskis and Zach Snyder and maybe Spielberg and Final Destination? it was awesome

i was in. the guitar strumming began. i knew the American spirit was in action via Hollywood pathways.

once everyone started talking i remembered i already knew the road ahead would be rocky. but The Rock was like "just doing my job" i knew i was only being fucked by a dream.

the Rock started working and i kept watching. he was flying a helicopter in a canyon, "tipping the hat." and i was realizing that life obstacles can be overcome with skill and perseverance.

this is a human fact: sometimes i encounter problems in my life but they're rarely as well imagined as they are in movies. and when they are i think "this feels like a movie." everything is outrageous and i i watch more and more actors behave approximately how i think normal people would during devastating scenarios. normal people would make the right decision.

once the big earthquake starts that shot of the Hollywood sign wobbling was ridiculous, but later when the guy is running down the stairs except for some reason he falls down a shaft that opens behind a crumbling wall: that was fully necessary and it was smart of them to include it.

movies about everything horrible happening is crucial toward a full perspective of human experience. positive.

this is a thing i will surmise: old people see movies about young people, but young people don't see movies about old people, which is why most movies are about young people, and i haven't heard this but my guess is that 99%ers see movies about the 1%ers but the 1% don't see movies about the 99. i'm thinking during a scene of luxury atop of a skyscraper. hey at least not everyone is an actor. these are normal people being played by actors.

when skyscrapers started collapsing around the helicopter i was only asked to care about the helicopter, which made me feel weird. but then the underground parking lot scene made total sense and restored my faith.

a cool thing about Hollywood movies is when they piss me off if i stay patient i know they want to restore my faith

that was really helpful to remember when the movie became boring af for a short-long while. like it was short but felt long. seriously: some phone conversation detailed plans ahead bullshit.

i about nearly died of distraction until a gun was pointed at the back of The Rock's head. i like how exciting and open the world feels, based on the filmmakers needing to be able to find excitement at a moment's notice. this is the most shining and duplicable quality of Hollywood narratives: make your way back to fun asap. it's not much different from Cesar Aira's flight forward, i don't think. he just described it better

but the gun at the back of the head was just a slap in an audience member's face. seriously the boring shit is thick. there's this whole thing about the guy from Sideways being a professor btw. he's reminding non-la tourists that every fucking person who lives in LA is utterly terrified by our impending massive earthquake. scientists have been predicting we're ready to bust for a long spell now. i've heard responsible, reasonable people leave from LA, listing fear of the quake among their central considerations.

all the important parts of an action movie take place during the action. all the normal human shit kept happening but i just remembered my religion of cinema and that a movie is yin/yang, normal/ridiculous.

i saw the San Andreas fault split open amid the normal people shit and i knew the movie was reminding me that action was ahead. all this normal shit must be building up to serious trouble, i figured.

when The Rock was having flashbacks i remembered that Joe Dante mentions that watching bad movies is as educational as watching good movies. like i was seeing clear evidence that i should never do this particular thing The Rock is doing because i'll expose myself as obviously desperate to find human drama amid devastating widespread horror which isn't the foreground but the background aka oh Hollywood, you golden goose.

San Andreas tests my patience exactly as normal people do when they tell me stories. this movie felt like a normal person and didn't agree with me about what makes a movie good.

a string of startling revelations took place while i dreamt of life being more like how my imagination makes it. pta says you should watch a movie then go back and write it. i feel like i could write the drama of San Andreas better by like fucking accident. i could out-drama this sweetie movie in a single line i'm positive. if any one person said one thing i could believe i'd shit my pants.

props to air traffic being reasonable during this severe land devastation. it was helpful to this movie that The Rock was the only person thinking of being in the air. he's a goddamn hero. every problem this movie throws at him he solves. like there's this side-story about him skydiving his exwife out of an airplane onto a baseball field. The Rock does that casual and ends with a sex joke because he's a real man.

by the time the SF earthquake hits i'm positive this movie is about real people with real emotions, which helps me a ton during action sequences which i could've become desensitized to by now. this is what's tricky for this movie: it has to remind me to care about what i'm seeing, even when i'm used to seeing it. but this movie had known how to prepare me and i didn't follow along but i know that the SF earthquake was deeply moving and The Rock is a real man.

then, i had forgotten that it always feels intense to watch an object be removed from a wound. glass from the body: oof. that gets me! who was the first person to film glass being pulled from a person, that's an answer i wish i had

by the time The Rock has to race to beat the crest of the wave, but a container ship and its propellers are encountered, i had once again fully entered the magical reality of movies.

lord: the tsunami was a drama which felt much different to me than the eartquake. such sad music. someone died who earlier the movie explained to me wouldn't be a big deal. he was really inconsiderate and didn't think of others so it was okay for him to die, although hollywood opposes the death penalty, so the devil makes himself sound like a normal person so that you will listen to him and never trust anyone ever is the point.

when the tsunami wave swept through the skyscraper i was amazed i was lucky enough to see this. wow. there was a snapzoom to waves flowing from skyscraper windows. incredible. the scale of imagination within cgi territory astounds me. there's no fucking limit.

i nodded off while The Rock was performing cpr on his daughter. there wasn't a single shred of possibility his daughter would die within this movie. the swimming in the skyscraper scene was next-level Hollywood shit, i bought the whole thing. i was gripped. this was what this movie came to do. what this movie could imagine well: a flight toward the outer limits of performance.

then the monster was dead, would the movie continue? i was wondering. i like the Roger Corman rule: monster dead, movie over. yes. it was over there was a 7min credit scene.  so it's a 1hr47min long movie.

California Dreamin' played over the credits.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on November 19, 2017, 01:22:12 AM
Joseph Losey's Accident (1967) (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Accident-Blu-ray-Dirk-Bogarde/dp/B00BM8WAW0/ref=sr_1_3_twi_blu_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1511076235&sr=8-3&keywords=accident). I'll write about this later

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on April 22, 2020, 04:14:13 PM
Andrew Horn's The Big Blue (1988)

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Quote from: The SpectacleTHE BIG BLUE follows a snoop for hire named Jack (David Brisbin) contracted by a dissatisfied housewife named Myrna (filmmaker Sheila McLaughlin, of COMMITTED and SHE MUST BE SEEING THINGS) to spy on her husband Howard, played by the film's screenwriter Jim Neu. Myrna thinks Howard is cheating on her, but he's actually involved in a drug trafficking deal with Max (John Erdman), a goateed East Village entrepreneur having a romance with a free-spirited and beautiful blonde named Carmen (Taunie VreNon). Problem is, Jack is surveilling Howard while having his own dalliance with Carmen (who dresses completely different every time she leaves the house), giving way to a four-way meditation on loneliness – with art director Anne Stuhler juxtaposing Horn's tortured ensemble against a vertical maze of staggering German Expressionist-style skyscrapers.



My favorite new discovery in some time. Playwright Jim Neu's dialogue is as specific in voice as David Mamet's or Ernest Lehman & Clifford Odets', full of sharp wordplay, but his work isn't even published, which is a real shame. I felt high listening to it, lit up by the sense that I was hearing something truly original.

Can't figure what outfit could justify putting this out and catch enough eyes besides Criterion, but it's one of those films that, as esoteric as it is, has such clear craft in the writing, deserves a much wider audience. At the screening I was at a few members of the crew were in attendance, and I think someone mentioned Horn's brother (?) has all of the original materials.

I got the impression that many people there had been around for New York's No Wave film movement (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Wave_Cinema), which this seems tangentially connected to, but wider awareness of Horn's work seems non-existent beyond the city's walls. In the unlikely scenario the movie screens again it's worth seeking out.

There was a lengthy write-up on The Spectacle's website for the retrospective: IT MAY BE FINISHED, BUT IT ISN'T OVER: ANDREW HORN (http://www.spectacletheater.com/andy-horn/), which contains many images and clips from his work.

Also Blank City (2010) is a good doc that details the film & music scene this kind of film was born on the heels of.

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on June 11, 2020, 10:02:02 AM
Ben Maddow, Sidney Meyers and Joseph Strick's The Savage Eye (1960)

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In this journey through the dark side of 1950s urban life, the camera follows Judith - a newly divorced woman looking for a fresh start - through the streets of Los Angeles as she encounters the strange denizens of the city, ranging from trendsetters to religious fanatics. All the tawdry and desperate faces of this world become a mirror for Judith's personal failures and struggles to claim her new life.





This is *the* undiscovered gem I most wish for a restored release of, nearly singular in its marriage of style and subject matter. The film was preserved in 2008 by the Academy Film Archive.

Quote from: Imogen Sara SmithThis independently produced documentary-fiction hybrid is not strictly film noir, but its penetrating study of urban alienation draws from the same well of midcentury anomie. Among the film's creators were blacklisted screenwriter/poet Ben Maddow and peerless street photographer Helen Levitt.

A newly divorced woman arrives in Los Angeles alone, retreating from life. Through her eyes and her stylized interior monologue we experience a phantasmagoric vision of the city: freeways, hotel rooms, bars, strippers, wrestlers, faith-healers, transvestites, beauty parlors, bingo parlors, car accidents, hospitals. Yet in this tawdry, desperate place the woman ultimately finds renewal and healing through connections with strangers.

Quote from: Letterboxd user rjtougasA bleakly lonely, yet beautifully poetic examination of a divorced woman and the City of Angels. Drunks and drag queens. Burlesque and bible thumping. Dark and light. Cynicism and possibility in an artificial world. The true In a Lonely Place.

Quote from: Conor BatemanThe Savage Eye is something of a different beast, though. Whilst it shares some of the pseudo-documentary stylings of the crowd work in Silence Has No Wings, its approach to voiceover and character is wholly unique. What Ben Maddow, Sidney Meyers and Joseph Strick have crafted is a bleak and unusual film which savagely attacks the banality of existence in 1950s America, as seen through the eyes of a newly divorced woman (Barbara Baxley, brilliant here) who wants time to just pass her by. It's primarily unusual in the way it acts as something caught between the cracked divide of documentary and fiction. Its diegetic dialogue-free narrative is cut into a documentary of landscape and people, the filmmakers deftly applying social commentary to the faces of innocent bystanders, whose genuine actions seem to perfectly reflect the depressive inner monologue of our protagonist; shouting crowds become animalistic spectacle, target for our derision.

Quote from: makeminecriterionJudith is an uncharacteristic female character for American cinema, being unapologetically childless and punishingly alienated. Her solitude, as Imogen Sara Smith considers, is a rare subject in art – "lonely women characters are common enough, but willfully anti-social loners are typically male."

As Gordon Theisen detects, The Savage Eye might even be read as an antecedent to Paul Schrader and Martin Scorsese's Taxi Driver (1976), interrogating the same psychological isolation, lurid atmospheres, and moral confusions.

Quote from: makeminecriterionStanding with hallmark works of the first American New Wave like Lionel Rogosin's On the Bowery (1957), John Cassavetes' Shadows (1959), Alfred Leslie and Robert Frank's Pull My Daisy (1959), and Shirley Clarke's The Connection (1961), the experimental documentary The Savage Eye began with Joseph Strick filming in and around Los Angeles on a wind-up Eyemo camera.

Strick would co-direct, produce, and edit the film with Sidney Meyers and Ben Maddow on a $65,000 budget, shooting over four years of weekends with an impressive trio of cinematographers – Helen Levitt, the celebrated New York street photographer; Haskell Wexler, soon to break into his legendary career in Hollywood; and Jack Couffer, a noted naturalist and filmmaker and a key figure in Disney's nature documentaries like the True-Life Adventures series.

Maddow, a former Bellevue orderly and government relief investigator during the Depression, had already established himself in Hollywood with scripts for films like Framed (Richard Wallace, 1947), Intruder in the Dust (Clarence Brown, 1949), and The Asphalt Jungle (John Huston, 1950), for which he received an Academy Award nomination. Maddow was later blacklisted for his left-wing background but he still wrote scripts with Philip Yordan as his front, likely contributing to Nicholas Ray's Johnny Guitar (1954) and Anthony Mann's God's Little Acre (1958).

Sidney Meyers was best known for his twice-Oscar nominated documentary The Quiet One (1948), about a troubled African-American boy and the sensitive care he receives at a reform school. Although credited as written by novelist and critic James Agee, The Quiet One was a collaboration with Agee, Meyers, Levitt, and painter Janice Loeb. Maddow's friend and collaborator Irving Lerner, with whom he made the short film Muscle Beach (1948), also contributed to the production of The Savage Eye but left midway through filming. For his part, Lerner received credit as a technical advisor.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 11, 2020, 01:21:33 PM
sounds heavenly and i'm going to dl that later when i can
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: WorldForgot on June 11, 2020, 01:39:03 PM
Thanks for the link, wilder! Looking forward to it, premise and poster give me proto-Carnival of Souls vibez.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 17, 2020, 03:02:18 PM
The Savage Eye was great. It is great. A spectator to a reality in which you don't want to participate. Navel-gazing portrayed as a conversation one has with one's consciousness. I like when she was rationalizing drinking a martini at 2 in the afternoon. I like when she said the wrestler's ecstasy became her ecstasy. I like seeing people wanting to be healed so badly they expect God to do it. And I like other things about the movie I like.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: putneyswipe on June 21, 2020, 04:19:17 PM
https://youtu.be/SkjIamryzCQ

Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on June 24, 2020, 11:17:25 AM
Quote from: jenkins on June 17, 2020, 03:02:18 PM
A spectator to a reality in which you don't want to participate.

Yes!




putneyswipe - your post finally pushed me to pick that up. There are two US releases: one with extras, from Arrow (https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Pit-Stop-Blu-ray/130600/), and another from Code Red (https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Pit-Stop-Blu-ray/130843/#Screenshots) with a slightly different transfer derived from the original camera negative.

These reviews didn't hurt, either:

Quote from: Letterboxd user josh lewisworking men drawn to and expressing themselves through danger; the community that forms around it, the feelings of beauty, love and loss generated by it and the money that exacerbates its worst qualities/impulses. sorta like a cheap racing b-movie Only Angels Have Wings. real cars smashing into each other. sid haig. desert jazz racing.

Quote from: Letterboxd user matt lynchtotally immersed in its subculture, obsessed with the zen allure of professionally blowing off steam.

Quote from: Letterboxd user Ira BrookerMan, I fucking dare you to show me a cooler movie than this.

Semi-charismatic street racer Richard Davalos impresses semi-legit race car impressario Brian Donlevy and starts a heady climb through the ranks of semi-professional California stock car racing, hampered/aided along the way by semi-feral racer Sid Haig, semi-tragic racing fan Beverly Washburn, and semi-available racing wife Ellen Burstyn.

Jack Hill digs deep into the specifics of a very specific subculture and comes up with something like a masterpiece of observation. I'm by no means a car guy and even less a race car guy, but I was instantly mesmerized by the inner workings of the insane world of Figure 8 racing. There's a ton of wordless racing footage here that could've easily bored me stiff. Instead, I was full-on riveted. Hell, there's a near 5-minute sequence of folks driving dune buggies around the desert while jazz guitar plays, and I found it downright breathtaking. It's a scintillating, straight-shooting, occasionally beautiful piece of moviemaking. That's no small feat for a director to pull off, especially when every male character is a miserable piece of shit.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: putneyswipe on June 24, 2020, 12:00:27 PM
So few racing films actually feel dangerous, understandably, but that one does. Still dreaming about Cronenberg or Michael Mann's take on the Ferrari movie.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on June 24, 2020, 12:05:56 PM
That's happening:

QuoteMichael Mann & Hugh Jackman Are Still Set To Make A 'Ferrari' Movie, And They're Hoping To Shoot Next Spring
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Michael Mann's passion project for almost two decades may finally get made, as he prepares to shoot "Ferrari" with Hugh Jackman as early as next spring.

This, of course, may come as a surprise to some, given that we just had a movie where Enzo Ferrari played a big role: James Mangold's "Ford v. Ferrari" last year, which Mann executive produced. But it turns out, in this economy, you have to choose between Ford and Ferrari, you can't have both.

The news comes from Deadline, with a report that Mann recently reworked the script by the late Troy Kennedy Martin ("The Italian Job"). The film racing drama is reportedly part of the Cannes virtual market, where four-time Oscar-nominee Mann will present the project for buyers early next week.

Hugh Jackman is gearing up to play the titular Ferrari founder, Enzo Ferrari. The film is set in the summer of 1957, during a turbulent time for Ferrari. The company he built was going broke, his marriage was on the rocks after the death of their son, Dino, while Ferrari's other son was struggling to find his place in the world.

According to Deadline, "Ferrari" is being described as having an almost "The Godfather" type feel. The film's biggest set piece will be set on one 1,000-mile race across Italy, the 1957 Mille Miglia, and Mann will reportedly build a fleet of replica race cars from the era.

"The real power of this piece is in the emotionally charged lives of these people in complex, extreme circumstances," Mann said. "In addition, there is the explosive power and lethal beauty of racing. It has a great drama at its core and that's why 'Ferrari' stayed with me."
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on June 24, 2020, 01:19:04 PM
i saw Pit Stop doubled with Spider Baby in 35mm at the Egyptian with Jack Hill and Sid Haig in person, this was it (https://laist.com/2007/09/21/jack_hill_at_th.php), like a hundred people were there it wasn't sold out i know that's crazy
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on December 11, 2020, 05:16:19 AM
Jean-Claude Brisseau's Un jeu brutal aka A Brutal Game (1983)

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The film follows a famous scientist who rules over his errant disabled daughter with an iron fist. He's meticulous and tyrannical, while she is impetuous but equally cruel in her own immature way.

NSFW


Quote from: Letterboxd user Mike D'Angelo"Suggests The Glass Menagerie if Amanda were a tough-love serial killer instead of an aging Southern belle," reads my drive-by from back then, and that barely scratches the surface of how bizarre this movie is; hard to choose sides in the battle of wills between a father we know is murdering children and his disabled, deeply disturbed daughter, who's introduced fantasizing about bombing a crowded marketplace for fun. They actually rarely share the screen (which I hadn't remembered), yet it's implied that his disciplinarian tactics do in fact gradually shape her into a more compassionate, less warped person, even as it's made abundantly clear that they're part and parcel of his homicidal mania. In short, this film feels dangerous, in the best sort of way.

Available restored on blu-ray in France from Carlotta (https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Un-jeu-brutal-Blu-ray/245202/) (no subs), and on DVD (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brutal-Game-JEU-BRUTAL-DVD/dp/B00IYTT4LK/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=un+jeu+brutal&qid=1607669532&sr=8-1) in the UK
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on January 16, 2021, 06:02:29 AM
Great film lost to time, and the only film he ever made. Watched on Amazon (https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B001RQZAQK/ref=atv_dl_rdr?tag=justus1ktp-20).




Wendell B. Harris Jr.'s Chameleon Street (1989)

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William Douglas Street is bored with his life. Working for his father is getting to him, his wife wants more money, and he's had enough. His solution is to re-invent himself. He becomes a chameleon, taking on whatever role suits the situation. From reporter to doctor to lawyer, he impersonates anyone he feels a need to be and he can earn money being. The movie is based on the real figures William Douglas Street, Jr. and Erik Dupin.



Quote from: Brian FormoI've seen Steven Soderbergh's Out of Sight a handful of times and in a knockout top-to-bottom cast, Jenifer Lopez's boss Daniel always stood out in a cast of who's who. His honey voiced/above it all reading of the line "whatever" with the eye roll and the hands up is just so goddamn perfect. Anyway, Daniel is played by Wendell B. Harris, Jr. and Soderbergh hired him because the year after sex, lies, and videotape changed the Sundance Film Festival forever, Soderbergh served on the Jury the following year and awarded Harris the Grand Prize for Chameleon Street, a film that Harris wrote, directed, starred in and produced, and also that Hollywood completely screwed him over with right after Soderbergh's prize should've set the groundwork for a major career.

You see, this micro-budget film, has a Hollywood story right there: the true story of a black ex-con (Harris) who successfully passed himself off as a Detroit Tiger, a doctor, a French graduate student, and a lawyer, and even performed successful surgeries that he learned on the fly. Hollywood had a leading man remake in mind when it was purchased, it wasn't purchased to show on its own. The film that they bought, and didn't release, was shot like an industrial film and uses narration to fill in the gaps (but also hit you with some belly laughs). Chameleon Street lacks standard pizazz, but has an angry undercurrent on how black men have to adopt personas in order to get respect and/or equal opportunity. (Did I mention it's funny?)

Chameleon Street is quite a feat to watch today, and we're benefited by watching the 90s independent film movement unfold, as it shares some look and tone of other indie gods like Hal Hartley and Gregg Araki. But Harris beat them to the punch and suffered for it. Warner Brothers had no intention of releasing his film, just remaking it, and so the film languished in obscurity, the prize-winning videotape that followed sex, lies, and videotape that was gobbled up by lies and never saw actual distribution until Harris released it on home video in 2007. (A remake was never done either, though Six Degrees of Separation shares many character similarities and Smith was considered for the remake role.)

Street benefits greatly from Harris' voice, which stood out in Out of Sight, a syrupy tone that moves slowly; and as it moves, it unfurls. First, a hint of education in every word, and second a "fuck you" tucked away to rebut your entranced state. This is a distinctly 1990 Sundance Film in all of the absolute best ways. It's intelligent, it's personal, it's all put together by someone who had no access to Hollywood. And it features a scene where Harris is dressed up like Jean Cocteau's Beast and though he's been found out by a fellow French student that he's not actually French, he's still in awe of the translated insult that comes his way. Instead of responding incredulously to being labeled a "skinflint transvestite" who should be drinking "lukewarm cat piss," Harris' eyes roll into an orgasmic state behind the Beast mask and he says, "Oh, I wish I could speak French like that." True indie movie heaven.

Quote from: IMDB user loganx-2Beyond easy designation of social relevance (race, class, etc.), Street's chameleon like behavior is in microcosm the way everyone behaves at a certain basic level, learning to read the people and situations life brings us to, often playing them to our advantage (maybe more than we are even fully aware of), and only occasionally putting our foot down to announce what we are not, at those times when we either cant or refuse to cut through the "baggage of our personalities". You can't be everything to everyone, and the film asks even if it's possible to be yourself to yourself.

Chameleon Street is not a perfect film, not the funniest ever, or featuring the best cinematography, no one is going to clamor about the use of soft-focus, shadows, mood, blah, blah, blah, and it will not be praised for it's soundtrack (typical of it's time and unimpressive), but like Hal Hartley, Bill Gunn, David Blair, or Mark Rappaport, Wendell B. Harris Jr. is sui generis in his sense of style, focus, and concerns, and if nothing else deserves praise as a great neglected American auteur. There is more personality in this one movie than in some director's entire oeuvre's. Personally, this is my new favorite film the kind you watch twice back to back because you can't believe what you've seen, and pick up your jaw up off the floor hours later. The kind you rant and rave about to everyone you know, fully aware most wont like/get it/care about it.

Quote from: IMDB user sol-Highlights include the protagonist lecturing a drunk on how to conjugate the F-word, a fake epileptic seizure that gets out of control and him rambling off a whole string of "J'accuse" sentences while trying to speak French.
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: jenkins on January 16, 2021, 04:05:01 PM
at the end of the trailer i got to see him dressed up like Jean Cocteau's Beast, which is what i most wanted, and there's even a vo explaining that he's The King of Comedy if that were an impressive movie

while trying to refind Lawrence Joseph Bader (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Joseph_Bader), who is mad dope, i found Joseph Newton Chandler III (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Newton_Chandler_III), who geez

update: a bit later i remembered he's Zelig
Title: Re: The best movie(s) I'd never heard about
Post by: wilder on October 21, 2021, 03:32:02 PM
Chameleon Street is coming from Arbelos Films, restored in 4K from the original camera negative under the supervision of Wendell B. Harris Jr.