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The Director's Chair => The Director's Chair => Topic started by: godardian on May 17, 2003, 10:46:56 PM

Poll
Question: MOST STRIKING DIRECTOR/D.P. TEAM?
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: godardian on May 17, 2003, 10:46:56 PM
Some directors work again and again with the same cinematographers; together, they create a certain visual style all their own. Which of these serial collaborations do you find most striking?

I know this is by no means going to be a complete enough list for anyone. So here's the deal: You see what you like in the poll, vote for it. If not, DON'T VOTE! Post what you think should be there, I'll nicely ask Macguffin to add it to the poll, and then you can come back and vote for that.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: MacGuffin on May 17, 2003, 10:55:15 PM
Although I know you don't care for the last two directors, I added them to be fair. Hope you don't mind.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: Pubrick on May 17, 2003, 11:01:47 PM
ekzellent list.

it's amazing how woody allen has the best cinematographers, i guess it's a smart move since the level of writing is so high all that's left is to get it to look good.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: godardian on May 17, 2003, 11:08:11 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinAlthough I know you don't care for the last two directors, I added them to be fair. Hope you don't mind.

Not at all. The more all-encompassing it is, the better.

Still having trouble making up my mind, though.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: godardian on May 17, 2003, 11:31:49 PM
I know it seems completely predictable, but I ended up going with Godard/Coutard, because they did so many films together in such a short period of time, and so many of the films are so different-looking, yet each time they pulled it off. I mean, the same cinematographer did les Carabiniers that did Contempt and Weekend. That's amazing to me.

It was really hard, though. All the ones I included were because I was completely transfixed by the look of all these films. It used to be my fantasy to be a film director, but now I fantasize almost as much about being a cinematographer.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: Pedro on May 17, 2003, 11:43:38 PM
Allen/Willis
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: children with angels on May 18, 2003, 05:34:38 AM
I went for Bergman and Nevkist, though I think I like the look of the films made pre-Nevkist with Gunnar Fischer (Wild Strawberries, Seventh Seal) even more...
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: godardian on May 18, 2003, 11:20:05 AM
Quote from: children with angelsI went for Bergman and Nevkist, though I think I like the look of the films made pre-Nevkist with Gunnar Fischer (Wild Strawberries, Seventh Seal) even more...

Aw, shoot. Maybe MacGuffin will add that choice and switch your vote to that, then... MacGuffin?
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: Holden Pike on May 18, 2003, 12:19:58 PM
The Coens and Roger Deakins is probably my favorite current pair (well, trio).

Can't get enough of Jim Jarmusch and Robby Muller (Down by Law, Mystery Train, Dead Man, Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai) - and I'll give them extra points for having not one but two pieces of black & white perfection in this day and age. And Muller's work with Wim Wenders (Paris,Texas, The Beuna Vista Social Club and all the early '70s work together) is fantastic.

I'm a big fan of Eastwood and Jack Green (Unforgiven, Bird, A Perfect World, The Bridges of Madison County, White Hunter,Black Heart), an underrated pairing.

Though they only collaborated on three films (Lawrence of Arabia, Doctor Zhivago, Ryan's Daughter), David Lean & Freddie Young can go toe-to-toe with anybody.

Kubrick and John Alcott have three masterworks together in A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon and The Shining (plus Alcott did some work on 2001 too).


But if I have to vote for only one pairing, I'll go with Akira Kurosawa and Asakazu Nakai (High & Low, Ikiru, The Seven Samurai, Stray Dog, Throne of Blood, Red Beard, Dersu Uzala, Kagemusha and RAN). Any two or three of those would make them legends. Hell, RAN alone would do it. But to have so many great works together over so many years, I'll go with them.

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Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: soixante on May 18, 2003, 01:42:00 PM
How about Bernardo Bertolucci and Vittorio Storaro -- Last Tango in Paris, 1900, Last Emperor?
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: godardian on May 18, 2003, 02:05:10 PM
Aaack!!! I knew my list would become obsolete right away.

MacGuffin, when you see these, please add the "'new" teams mentioned in the posts above to the poll? Thanks.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: ©brad on May 18, 2003, 02:45:26 PM
Quote from: Holden Pike
Kubrick and John Alcott have three masterworks together in A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon and The Shining (plus Alcott did some work on 2001 too).

oh yeah.

tough decisions here. i'm no good at picking who's best or making top ten lists. my personal favorite is stone/richardson just cuz of the amazing stuff they have done together with JFK, NBK, Nixon and all the others. wonder who the DP is on Stone's Alexander.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: SoNowThen on May 18, 2003, 02:47:12 PM
Scorsese / Chapman  -  Taxi Driver, Raging Bull

That's my pick.

Though, you should also add Fellini / Giuseppe Rotunno.

But from your list, I'd pick Godard and Coutard.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: soixante on May 18, 2003, 09:54:36 PM
It occurred to me, two major cinematographers are missing -- Vilmos Zsigmond and Haskell Wexler.

How about Michael Cimino/Vilmos Zsigmond (Deer Hunter, Heaven's Gate).  Or Robert Altman/Vilmos Zsigmond (McCabe and Mrs. Miller, The Long Goodbye).

Or Hal Ashby/Haskell Wexler (Bound For Glory, Coming Home)

Also:

Terrence Malick/Nestor Almendros (Days of Heaven)

Carroll Ballard/Caleb Deschanel (Black Stallion)

Francis Ford Coppola/Vittorio Storaro (Apocalypse Now)

Jonathan Demme/Tak Fujimoto (almost all of Demme's films).

The possibilities are almost endless.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: SHAFTR on May 19, 2003, 01:59:18 AM
Although only 2 movies...what about Mendes/Hall?

I voted for Bergman's team on this poll.

Note:  Vilmos Zsigmond is the cinematographer for Kevin Smith's Jersey Girl.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: godardian on May 19, 2003, 02:02:20 AM
Quote from: SHAFTR

Note:  Vilmos Zsigmond is the cinematographer for Kevin Smith's Jersey Girl.

Wow. That is by far the most compelling reason I've yet heard to even conside seeing it...

Zsigmond also worked on Brian De Palma's Blow Out and Bonfire of the Vanities, and features prominently in Julie Salomon's book, The Devil's Candy, where it is revealed he truly dislikes Melanie Griffith as a person and an actress.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: Mesh on May 19, 2003, 02:59:34 PM
How has no one mentioned Welles/Toland yet?  Not a team, really, but a fateful pairing, no question about it.

Citizen Kane, people.  Changed cinematic photography forever, and in one masterstroke.

Quality over quantity, here.
Title: DIRECTOR/CINEMATOGRAPHER TEAMS
Post by: AlguienEstolamiPantalones on May 19, 2003, 03:01:04 PM
ever notice that tim burton always uses differnt D.P'S

I Heard a rumor about him being cruel to one of his d.p's

does anyone know more about this subject ?