Top 10 UNDERRATED movies EVER!

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SoNowThen

#15
September 03, 2003, 11:48:31 AM
Catch 22
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

phil marlowe

#16
September 03, 2003, 11:48:32 AM
i agree on minority report, half baked and conair.

also, robocop movies
lost highway
tripple x

jasper_window

#17
September 03, 2003, 12:32:27 PM
Monument Ave.
King of the Hill
Whatever

MacGuffin

#18
September 03, 2003, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: RaikusThe ideas are from the same well. I don't hold to the theory Matrix ripped off Dark City by any means (most of us know the Matrix script has been around since '94), but they are definitely similiar movies--the same archetypal ideas. One's just a murder drama while the others an action movie.

I can see the similarities, but I still don't think because of that the two films warrant enough of a comparasion that one is better than the other.


Anyway:
The Wrong Man
The Grifters
The Waterdance
Exotica
Tucker: The Man and His Dream
Roger Dodger
Some Kind Of Wonderful
Bugsy
Quiz Show
The Truth About Cats and Dogs
A Midnight Clear
The Chocolate War
Talk Radio
Menace II Society
Backbeat
Nurse Betty
The Edge
Streets Of Fire
Before Night Falls
Basquiat
The Rapture
Homicide
Wings Of The Dove
The Trigger Effect
A Perfect World
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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Jeremy Blackman

#19
September 03, 2003, 01:27:37 PM
Quote from: MacGuffinNurse Betty

Yes! I love that movie. That's probably the only great performance of Zellwegger's career. Incredible movie, yet so easy to shrug off if you haven't seen it.

Find Your Magali

#20
September 03, 2003, 01:30:17 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin

Anyway:
The Wrong Man
The Grifters
The Waterdance
Exotica
Tucker: The Man and His Dream
Roger Dodger
Some Kind Of Wonderful
Bugsy
Quiz Show
The Truth About Cats and Dogs
A Midnight Clear
The Chocolate War
Talk Radio
Menace II Society
Backbeat
Nurse Betty
The Edge
Streets Of Fire
Before Night Falls
Basquiat
The Rapture
Homicide
Wings Of The Dove
The Trigger Effect
A Perfect World

Some really nice picks. I love Nurse Betty, The Grifters, A Midnight Clear and Quiz Show.

I see we're finally, finally, finally getting a widescreen DVD of "A Midnight Clear" in October.  :-D

But, apparently, there will be no special features.  :(

MacGuffin

#21
September 03, 2003, 01:36:18 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI see we're finally, finally, finally getting a widescreen DVD of "A Midnight Clear" in October.  :-D

But, apparently, there will be no special features.  :(

They'd be stupid to not carry over the excellent commentary on the full screen dvd.
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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Find Your Magali

#22
September 03, 2003, 01:59:27 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI see we're finally, finally, finally getting a widescreen DVD of "A Midnight Clear" in October.  :-D

But, apparently, there will be no special features.  :(

They'd be stupid to not carry over the excellent commentary on the full screen dvd.

Oh, there's a commentary? You know, as good as that movie is, I didn't even give the original DVD two seconds worth of consideration when I saw it was full-screen.

jasper_window

#23
September 03, 2003, 02:00:46 PM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Find Your MagaliI see we're finally, finally, finally getting a widescreen DVD of "A Midnight Clear" in October.  :-D

But, apparently, there will be no special features.  :(

They'd be stupid to not carry over the excellent commentary on the full screen dvd.

Yeah it makes alot of sense to release a widescreen version and not include the commentary.

MacGuffin

#24
September 03, 2003, 02:09:00 PM
Quote from: Find Your MagaliOh, there's a commentary?

By Ethan Hawke and Keith Gordon.

If I didn't get it for free, I probably would have bought it anyway since it did have a commentary and not thinking this would be one title that would get an upgrade. Now if Warner Bros. would only letterbox Frantic and Stand And Deliver.
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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SoNowThen

#25
September 03, 2003, 02:13:30 PM
what is the appeal of the Grifters for everyone? I still can't see why Scorsese himself thought so highley of it as to produce. So little of that movie actually worked for me.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

jasper_window

#26
September 03, 2003, 02:24:14 PM
The script, the acting.  I saw it in the theater when I was in my teens and it was such a different movie to me, at the time, but I saw it again recently it I still love it.  A nice little movie about some fucked up people.

chainsmoking insomniac

#27
September 03, 2003, 02:32:49 PM
Where the Day Takes You
Lantana
"Ernest Hemingway once wrote: 'The world's a fine place, and worth fighting for.'  I agree with the second part."
    --Morgan Freeman, Se7en

"Have you ever fucking seen that...? Ever seen a mistake in nature?  Have you ever seen an animal make a mistake?"
 --Paul Schneider, All the Real Girls

ono

#28
September 03, 2003, 03:24:07 PM
Nice picks, MacGuffin.  I loved The Truth About Cats and Dogs when I saw it way back in ... 1995, I think it was.

Skimming down the list for others ... Ebert and Berardinelli, at least, agree with you about Exotica's excellence.  It may be that it's underappreciated by the public at large.  With a title like that, though, it's no wonder.  Saw Quiz Show, was one of the best of 1994, though overshadowed by Pulp Fiction and Forrest Gump, of course.  And agreed, A Perfect World was great.  That's pretty much it for what I've seen for that list.  It really boggles my mind, reminding me how many movies I need to see.

Find Your Magali

#29
September 03, 2003, 03:39:26 PM
Speaking of underrated movies and movies that NEED to be released in widescreen, I also noticed today on Amazon that there's finally a widescreen special edition two-pack of the Babe movies being released in September --- for 23 bucks!

"Babe" will have a making of documentary and a director's commentary.

Not sure of the features on "Babe: Pig in the City"

This is awesome news.
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