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Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: NEON MERCURY on January 24, 2004, 10:39:22 PM
....::dramatic music playing::


..i feel the need to give Mr. Roth his own thread....i have listen about 3/4 the way through his commentary track on cabin fever...and he's  awesome.. really good sh*t talks about in that track.........

and he 's brilliant(..who wouldn't want to worship lynch).... :wink: .....

so feel free to be the proverbial "needle" and work this "thread"....

...i am getting tired....

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Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on January 24, 2004, 10:54:48 PM
Next project:
http://xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2158&start=165
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: modage on February 01, 2004, 10:57:44 PM
Eli Roth Talks About His Future Slate
Source: Bloody-Disgusting Sunday, February 1, 2004

Horror site Bloody-Disgustin got chattin' with Cabin Fever director Eli Roth about his future slate. Besides the previously announced news that he's working on The Box (see here), here's clips about his other projects.

Eli is also working on a project called Drawn. Not one of Eli's creations, drawn was a script sent to him by an aspiring filmmaker. Eli was so impressed by this dark and frightening tale that he decided he could bring it to the big screen with his director's flair. The film is about an Artist who discovers that Evil uses all forms of art to spread its message to the world and the Artist's unsuccessful struggle to prevent the apocalypse through his creations, Eli says Drawn is a "nightmarish and horrifying film with the same dark feel as films like the Exorcist and The Shining." Featuring the End of Mankind, Tidal waves of blood, and waves of bodies, Eli believes this will be a fun one.

Also in wrap-up is 2001 Maniacs, starring Robert Englund. This is Eli's first endeavor stemming from his new company called Raw Nerve Productions. Raw Nerve is Eli Roth, Yak Boaz of Greenestreet Films, and Scott Spiegel of Evil Dead 2 fame. They are hoping to provide an environment where new horror filmmakers can get their big break, or where veterans can come to experiment in horror. Oh, But it must be Gory and Sick. They will be accepting scripts from horror filmmaker Hopefuls. Eli Roth describes 2001 Maniacs as a remake with the "slapstick humor of Dead Alive."

On the lighter side, Eli is working on a script for a teen comedy he will also be directing called Scavenger Hunt for Universal. It will be film based on Eli's high school experiences. With lots of T & A. Of course. To all of those guys who used to beat up Eli in high school: Suddenly it isn't so funny anymore. Get ready for some payback.
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: modage on April 11, 2004, 11:44:49 PM
From the new Premiere...

PREMIERE: Of the young directors you see coming along, who gives you great hopes for their future movies and what they'll do for film?

QUENTIN TARANTINO: Well, the young director whose work I saw that I was, like, really, really excited by is Eli Roth, who did Cabin Fever.  I think he's exactly what the horror genre has needed.  The genre has needed a director like him to put some enthusiasm back into horror films.
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on July 23, 2004, 03:02:58 PM
Davis takes shot at 'Hunt' for Uni

Screenwriter Jonathan Davis has been hired to rewrite Eli Roth's "Scavenger Hunt" for Lorenzo Di Bonaventura and Universal Pictures. Roth, who wrote the first draft of the screenplay, will direct the feature, which is inspired by his experiences from his school days and follows a group of overachieving students on a scavenger hunt. Universal vice chairman of worldwide production Mary Parent and vp production Dylan Clark will oversee for the studio. Davis wrote the first draft of "Dukes of Hazzard" at Warners Bros. Pictures, where he has a two-picture deal. Di Bonaventura's other projects include "Derailed" for Miramax Films, "Confessions of a Super Freak," "Detour" and "Bad Girls" for Paramount Pictures and "Unborn" for Sony Pictures. Roth's previous features include "The Box," "The Rotten Fruit" and "Cabin Fever."
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on March 11, 2005, 03:48:51 PM
HOSTEL Housed at Screen Gems
Mike Fleiss will produce the project for helmer Eli Roth with Jay Hernandez in negotiations to star.
Source: FilmStew.com

Reality TV maven Mike Fleiss (The Bachelor) is returning to horror features, teaming up with director Eli Roth (Cabin Fever) to make Hostel at Screen Gems. Fleiss previously produced The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

Although the plot is being kept under wraps, it's no secret that Jay Hernandez is in final negotiations to star. It's reported that he'll play an American traveler abroad. Shooting is slated to begin later this month.

Roth wrote the spec script, which was set up at Screen Gems as a negative pickup. Fleiss, his Next Entertainment partner Chris Briggs and Roth will produce the film. Boaz Yakin and Scott Spiegel, Roth's partners at his Raw Nerve production shingle, will be executive producers.

For the big screen, Fleiss is producing The Poseidon Adventure for director Wolfgang Petersen and Warner Bros. He is also working on a prequel to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre for New Line.
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: cowboykurtis on March 12, 2005, 03:39:28 PM
recently watched cabin fever -- very curious to see what he does next - did you get a chance to see the rotten fruit animated series on the cabin fever dvd? really great stuff. Paaanakes!
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: Stefen on March 12, 2005, 03:44:44 PM
Wait a second. So Cabin Fever was actually good? I had it pegged for one of those cash in horror films. I'll have to check it out.
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: SHAFTR on March 12, 2005, 03:46:29 PM
Quote from: StefenWait a second. So Cabin Fever was actually good? I had it pegged for one of those cash in horror films. I'll have to check it out.

I enjoyed it a lot.
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: cowboykurtis on March 12, 2005, 04:13:59 PM
Quote from: StefenWait a second. So Cabin Fever was actually good? I had it pegged for one of those cash in horror films. I'll have to check it out.

So did I. I avoided it until my roommate bought it. It's nothing brilliant, just a good fun horror film in it's purest form -  a return to form, derivitive of such film as evil dead, bad taste,etc...I'm by no means a huge horror fan, but while watching you can tell that Eli Roth is having so much fun making it that you can't help but smile. I found it more humorous than scary. It's interesting wathcing this knwoing he's lynch's "protoge".  The film sets up that very mundane twin peaks-esque enviornment -- I was waiting for jack nance to turn the corner and say " there's a fiiiiiiiish in the percalatooor".
Title: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: NEON MERCURY on March 12, 2005, 09:56:39 PM
Quote from: StefenWait a second. So Cabin Fever was actually good? I had it pegged for one of those cash in horror films. I'll have to check it out.

hell yes its good! its nasty and funny as shit.  and it has brunette  chick with  two nice breasts.   see it.  its great w/ a bunch of friends and beer.  i know you didnt like shawn OTD but you will easily like this.  its not as smart as SOTD,  but its very good.   and like cowboy said, its got a twin peaks thing in it.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on March 09, 2006, 02:18:49 AM
Roth Dials Up King's Cell
Hostel helmer boards thriller.

Variety reports that director Eli Roth (Hostel, Cabin Fever) has been tapped to helm Cell, based on Stephen King's recent novel. Dimension Films has acquired the rights to King's book. Mike Fleiss and Chris Briggs will produce. Roth will script or co-write the pic, depending on his schedule.

The trade calls Cell "a throwback to (King's) early apocalyptic horror novels. In a single moment, a pulse sent out through cell phones around the world turns every phone user into a crazed, murderous zombie."

"The combination of technology and horror is fun high-concept," Dimension chief Bob Weinstein informed Variety. "And Eli will make it right after he finishes Hostel 2."

Of King's book, Roth said, "I couldn't put it down. It was such a balls-out horror movie with a smart take on the zombie genre."
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on April 20, 2006, 11:33:39 AM
Source: MTV

Eli Roth made a name for himself in the hierarchy of gore with "Hostel," and Stephen King is certainly no slouch in that department. So what can we expect now that the two of them are joining forces? "So many of my favorite directors — Stanley Kubrick, Brian De Palma, George Romero — have adapted Stephen King books. It's always been my dream to do it," Roth said recently of "Cell," the mobile-phone zombie flick adapted from the current King bestseller. "One of the things zombie movies have never done is, you never see the moment when the plague hits. You never see it hitting all over the world. ... I want to see Japan, Rio, Iceland, London, New York — I want people going nuts. Everyone on a cell phone gets zapped and starts killing everyone around them. There are people ripping each other's throats out, jumping out of buildings, crashing cars into each other. I want to watch the world completely fall apart." Grinning excitedly, he added that King has given his full blessing to the project. "One of the things I said was, 'Am I going to be allowed to change things around?' because I feel like the book is the book, but when you're making a movie, you should do what's best for the movie and not be afraid to change things. ... [King] said, 'Whatever he wants to do. This is Eli's version of "Cell." Go nuts.' Once I heard that, it gave me the freedom to go off the hook."
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on May 04, 2006, 06:35:56 PM
Roth Plans to Make Cell "Sick"

It's not too often you get to hear a filmmaker rave about how gruesome his next project is going to be ... but most filmmakers aren't as joyously gore-soaked as Cabin Fever / Hostel-maker Eli Roth.

What's the movie going to be like? "I want to make it really, really, really sick," Eli told Sci-Fi Wire, "Just full-on sick. But I also want to try to make it a worldwide event. Like, I don't want to see it just happening in one little town. I really want to see people going crazy all over the world and just see the end of civilization."

Interesting. King's novel never does go into the international (or even national) chaos that must occur when a cell-phone-borne insta-virus turns more than half the planet's population into homicidal lunatic semi-zombies. In the hands of a different director, such deviations from source material might be a red flag ... but Roth's two-for-two so far, so I'm giving the kid the benefit of the doubt. But Hostel 2 comes first, so it looks like we might be waiting a little while.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on June 09, 2006, 02:22:58 PM
Eli Roth: Hostel 2, Cell, and The Bad Seed     

Eli Roth whet horror fans' appetites when he revealed that his plan for Hostel 2 picks up one frame after Hostel ends. With Paxton (Jay Hernandez) seemingly safe on the train out of Slovakia, one can only imagine what brings him back into the world of torture and death. A normal person wouldn't have it in him to go another round, but Roth reminds us that horror heroes are a different breed.

"As you know from The Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2, heroes in horror films can certainly take a beating," Roth says. "I love Jay Hernandez and working with him is such a pleasure. He's just so easy to work with, so fantastic, and I just love torturing him. I love torturing Jay. I don't know what it is. I just love torturing the guy."

One small nicety Hernandez might have to look forward to is a pair of gloves. If he can hide those two missing fingers, at least he won't have to endure hours of hand makeup every day. Good thing Roth planned ahead at the end of Hostel. "One of the reasons I put the gloves [in] was the nod to Argento, but I was like, 'Okay, if we give him gloves, you don't have to spend three hours every day doing the makeup appliance.' So we'll definitely see it but he'll be wearing some gloves."

If Hostel begins with sexy fun and descends into hell, is there any chance that Hostel 2 will end in a happier place than it begins? "I don't know. I've got to write it and see what happens. I have all these different scenes and all these different deaths and different tortures and I've just got to sit down and put them all together now."

Hostel's big surprise (if you didn't already see the trailer that is) was that the titular lodgings were a front for rich executives to capture poor kids and torture them to death. Now that that cat's out of the bag, can Roth come up with another surprise to shake things up?

"If you're going to watch the sequel, you know what it is but you kind of want to see more and I want to learn more about this organization and how it works. More like the guys, the Rick Hoffman type businessman. I want to know about him. There's so much of that world to explore that I just want to go deeper and deeper into [it]," says Roth.

Before Hostel 2 is even written, word of Roth's next project is already heating up the message boards. He will adapt Stephen King's Cell, the story of cell phone users turned into zombie-like killers.

"I definitely use the word zombie loosely because they're just completely insane, psychotic serial killers," Roth says. "Their faces are all cut up and they're bloody and they're mangled and they don't even know that they've actually been injured. That's kind of the difference but I think the similarity between the classic zombie movies and the zombies in Cell ... they're not going to be stumbling but their faces will be all ripped up and when they get cut they don't get hurt. They're just completely out of their minds. They don't feel it. So the eyeball's hanging out and flesh from people's faces [is] ripped off and they'll just still keep running and trying to kill people."

Now, Stephen King writes long books and many of them become TV miniseries, but Roth promises a theatrical Cell. "I don't want to do it as a miniseries. I want to do it as a theatrical film. I think that it could be great as a miniseries but the film that I have in mind is definitely a full on, R-rated ultra-violent zombie movie."

Unfortunately, it looks like Roth's plans for a remake of The Bad Seed may fall by the wayside due to his schedule. "The Bad Seed is something I'm dying to do but the problem is I don't know when I'm going to do it. And I love the producers so much; they're really close friends and we want to do it but the truth of the matter is, I don't know if I'm going to be able to do it and I also don't want to stop them from making it, so it may just have to be one of those things I let go unfortunately."

Roth already pitched a new take on it so it is possible that even another director's remake of The Bad Seed will have his fingerprints. "I mean, I went into Warner Bros. and I said, 'I want to kill more kids than Schindler's List.' And they were like, 'Okay, all right.' They were totally down with that. And the producers love that too and I think that that's the take that they'll go with and they should go with. I can't wait to see that film. If I don't direct it, I'm sure they'll find a great director to do it."
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: modage on June 09, 2006, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: Eli Roth
"I mean, I went into Warner Bros. and I said, 'I want to kill more kids than Schindler's List.' And they were like, 'Okay, all right.' They were totally down with that."
wow.  taken out of context....no, just wow.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: modage on February 26, 2007, 10:19:18 AM
In the Future with Eli Roth
Source: ComingSoon.net

Making an appearance at the 2nd Annual New York Comic-Con to debut a few clips and talk about his upcoming sequel Hostel: Part II, the excitable Eli Roth told ComingSoon.net whether he'd take the opportunity to meet with author Stephen King, who was also at the con, being that Roth's attached to direct the adaptation of King's novel Cell. "I'm trying to do as much press stuff as I can and I know he's pretty swamped," he told us, "but we're trying to link up. I know there's a plan in the future for us to meet if we don't get to meet today."

When asked about the low-budget horror flick called The Signal, which premiered at this year's Sundance Film Festival, and its similarities to the premise of Cell, without batting a lash he responded, "You see these movies come out and it's weird. That movie 'The Signal' coming out of Sundance, yeah, I heard about it. When 'Cell' was going, my friend who was at Sundance told me that there's this movie that is a similar thing. I haven't seen 'The Signal." I know it's got a similar premise than 'Cell' but what are you going to do? I think that where I'm going with 'Cell' is so far different than what they did with 'Signal' and I also know that some people say 'The Signal' is great, some people say it's not so great. I know it's similar territory. In 'Hostel" and 'Saw' there were similar things and it's just similar territory, there's nothing you can do about it. I remember there was a movie I was going to make called 'Ice Cream Man,' this idea I had with a friend, we had it all written out beat for beat and then I watched the Serrador film called 'Who Can Kill a Child,' I saw it two weeks ago. And I'm like, 'Oh, my God! It's the same movie!' and it's very similar to 'The Signal' and it's very similar to 'Cell.' So there are just certain ideas that get out there in the ether. Look, what can you do? You just go out and make the best film that you can and if there's films that are similar territory, as long as they're both good films, I think people will go see them."

And responding to whether or not he'd actually see the movie before making Cell: "I'm not thinking about anything else except 'Hostel: Part II' right now, that's really it. If I'm working on 'Cell' I probably would see 'The Signal' at some point just so I don't... you know, the 'Saw' guys, we check in with each other. They call me and they're like 'Oh, we just filmed this f*ckin' scene and we got this guy and he's got all these piercings and we're going to rip 'em out and he blows up.' And I'm like, 'Okay, F*ck! I had cut to interior torture room, Whitney gets her belly button ring ripped out.' And I just crossed it out of the script. 'Godd*mn it! That was the perfect torture!'. We actually check in with each other, none of us want to repeat the same deaths they're doing. I notice there's the same plastic sheeting in 'Saw III' then we had in 'Hostel: Part II' but it's okay. I guess Jigsaw and the factory, they all go to the same Torture Depot. We check in and talk about every kill and about what got in through the MPAA. There's a real good 'Splat Pack Line of Communication'."

i think he comes off like a real dick right there.  just a few years ago he was the little guy making Cabin Fever out of nowhere and 2 movie later he's already subtley trashing the new guy for doing it down and dirty and first when he should be getting behind them for supporting horror movies.  how quickly things change.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: matt35mm on February 26, 2007, 01:29:10 PM
This just has me imagining: what if Michael Haneke was always talking about his movies all the time like this... "Duuuuude, this part is gonna blow your mind!  Wait for it, wait... wait... OHHHHH DUDE that was fucked up, right?  My next movie's gonna be even more fucked up.  Totally.  Yeah we're gonna win Cannes with it I think."
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on March 27, 2007, 12:33:56 AM
King OK'd Roth's Cell Take

Eli Roth, who will direct the feature-film version of Stephen King's best-seller Cell, told SCI FI Wire that he won the endorsement of the famously finicky author for his version of the story. "My first question when I adapted it was can I deviate from the book?" Roth said in an interview in Beverly Hills, Calif., on March 25 while promoting Grindhouse, in which he has a small part. "It's Stephen King. Am I going to piss off Stephen King? He was mad at Stanley Kubrick [who adapted King's The Shining], I don't want him mad at me. And, finally, Stephen King was like, 'Do whatever you want.'"

Roth (Hostel) and writers Scott Alexander and Larry Karaszewski are now writing the script for Cell, based on King's apocalyptic book in which a mysterious cell phone "pulse" drives some people insane all over the world, turning them into ravening killers.

Roth said that he would necessarily change elements of King's book, while maintaining other elements. "I love the opening [scene]," Roth said. "But I also want to keep, ... not necessarily that same chaotic tone, but I want to keep the tension of the opening 40 pages of the book going throughout the whole film and introduce other elements. Because I think the book, for me, where it loses tension is where suddenly you don't feel like the phone crazies are trying to kill them. ... I find that it's finding other ways to make it so you still feel the tension that any second you could get killed [and] carrying that throughout the whole film."

Roth, a native of Boston, added that he hopes to shoot the movie in that city, where it is set. And he'd even like to persuade King to make a cameo in the movie, which Roth will begin after he wraps the upcoming sequel Hostel 2.

"If he'd like to, sure," Roth said of a King cameo. "There's always room. That's the good thing about Cell. Because it's like crazy people running around trying to [kill you] It's like everybody gets a cameo."
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on May 12, 2007, 11:40:07 AM
Roth Loves Trailer Trash
Source: Sci-Fi Wire

Eli Roth, director of such gorefests as Hostel and Cabin Fever, told SCI FI Wire that he is developing a film called Trailer Trash, which will be made up entirely of fake trailers for nonexistent films. "I want to make a movie like Borat or Jackass or that kind of movie that's literally just completely ridiculous, totally silly and absurd, that's just all fake trailers," Roth said in an interview at the Saturn Awards in Universal City, Calif., on May 10. "And I have a great way to tie it all together and make it so it's narrative. ... I have a genius way to tie it all together so that it will actually play like a movie."

Roth was inspired by the experience of creating a trailer for the fictional horror film Thanksgiving for Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino's recent homage to exploitation films, Grindhouse. "That Thanksgiving trailer was the most fun I've ever had shooting anything," he said. "There was no responsibility whatsoever. I didn't have to follow continuity. It didn't matter if we lost an actor the next day. It's all money shots. It's literally, every shot is just such a crowd pleaser. It's like every shot's nudity, death, decapitation or a joke. It's like, I want to do a whole movie of that."

Although the concept could be done on a small scale, Roth said he wants to spend enough money to make the trailers as realistic as possible. "I want to do this with a budget," he said. "Because they've got to look like movies. But literally, I'll have the satisfaction [of feeling] like I made 30 movies. Because the thing with Thanksgiving was, it's ridiculous, but you kind of feel like you saw a real movie, because you have the best parts of the movie in your head."

Roth added that he has had a great response so far from fellow filmmakers with whom he's shared his idea, including Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz director Edgar Wright and makeup effects wizard Greg Nicotero. "I've already talked to Edgar Wright, Greg Nicotero," he said. "I've talked to a bunch of people about doing it. Everyone's like, 'Let me know when you're down for Trailer Trash.' Robert Rodriguez, everyone's like, 'I want to do a trailer!'"
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: cron on May 12, 2007, 01:20:29 PM
it's not a bad idea, i just wish someone with more eloquence did it.  or someone more serious..  fuck this, it's a bad idea.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: grand theft sparrow on May 12, 2007, 02:30:13 PM
This is a great idea as long as it's made specifically for youtube.  As much as I enjoyed the Grindhouse trailers, even I'm not paying $10 to see 90 minutes of that shit.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: Pubrick on May 12, 2007, 11:11:23 PM
he should make it a double feature with 3 back-to-back episodes of World's Greatest Commercials and at the end announce civilization officially over.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: Stefen on May 13, 2007, 12:48:26 AM
Eli Roth is the generation after ours Brett Ratner.

I'm still hip to the times and I hate this assholes spiky ass haircut.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: MacGuffin on September 24, 2007, 11:10:23 PM
What I Hate
Our film critic explains why she refuses to cover ''Captivity'' and other ''torture-porn horror'' flicks
By Lisa Schwarzbaum; Entertainment Weekly

This week, my colleague Owen Gleiberman describes the majority of Captivity as being ''not sick enough to disturb anyone who'd go to see this film.'' For the sake of readers who appreciate guidance in the nuances of the genre referred to as ''torture-porn horror,'' I'm glad Owen took the assignment. I wouldn't.

It's quite simple: I hate these movies. I won't see these movies. Never saw Saw or its sequels, never will. I'm not impressed with the ''quality'' of the gore or the ''wit'' of the filmmaking. I'm not enjoyably scared; I'm horrified, and not in the way horror fans get off on, groaning and screaming with pack-mentality excitement. Instead, my horror is one of disturbance and anger: Who makes this vile crap? What is remotely defensible about a movie like Captivity, in which a woman is abducted and tortured for the sake of ticket sales? Nothing, that's what. While moviegoers can vote with withheld wallets, I vote with my computer keyboard. Or rather, the silence of the keys, as I stay away from stuff I have no stomach for seeing, even on the job.

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More Eli Roth Whining About Anti-Torture Porn Media; Disses EW Female Film Critic
Source: Deadline Hollywood

Disgusting filmmaker Eli Roth sounds increasingly desperate. (Recall when he reacted badly to the failure of his Hostel II)? Here's the latest from his MySpace:

"And did anyone read that absurd article by Lisa Schwartzbaum in Entertainment Weekly, about how she'd never watch a "Torture Porn" film? I think it's time for her to hang up her critic's pen. I mean, seriously, I hate to break it to you Lisa, but there is no such thing as "torture porn." It's a made up term, made up by people who don't understand these movies, who are afraid to even watch them, and who feel some bizarre sense of moral obligation to warn the public about them, despite the fact they don't watch them and never would. Lisa Schwartzbaum has let others define for her what the films are - she admits that she's never seen any of the Saw films, and that she never would. Well, why wouldn't you? Because someone else TOLD you that's what they were? Are you that weak minded that you couldn't even decide these things for yourself? What makes me sick is her smug, holier-than-thou attitude, as if to say "I wouldn't watch these films because I don't enjoy torture!" Well, no shit lady, nobody does, but maybe these films are actually making a statement about torture.

Would you not watch Three Kings because there's torture in it? What about Marathon Man? And are you implying that the millions and millions of people who do watch these films actually endorse torture themselves? No, it seems to me you're directly saying it. Well, I have a suggestion: GET ANOTHER JOB. I'm not saying you have to like every movie made, but you do have to see every movie made if you're going to be a critic, and watch them with a critical eye. But you're watching them with a prejudice, a prejudice that was decided for you not by the filmmakers, but by some jealous critic who probably wishes he had the balls to actually write and direct his own movie, but who never would because he's too fucking chickenshit to put himself out there where anyone can take shots at him. It's too bad, she doesn't know what she's missing. Which is why I'm thankful they have Owen Glieberman over there, who's someone who clearly gets it.
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Post by: matt35mm on September 25, 2007, 02:54:41 AM
 :ponder:

I'm with the EW lady on this.

And I find Roth's argument incredibly retarded.  He ignores Schwarzbaum's actual statement, and instead invents another argument to counter: that to watch these movies is to personally endorse torture.  Even then, he argues against that very badly.  When he brings up Three Kings and Marathon Man...  :doh:

Also, the supposed statements that these movies are making about torture have all been shit.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 25, 2007, 05:46:47 AM
Quote from: Eli Roth on September 24, 2007, 11:10:23 PM
But you're watching them with a prejudice, a prejudice that was decided for you not by the filmmakers, but by some jealous critic who probably wishes he had the balls to actually write and direct his own movie, but who never would because he's too fucking chickenshit to put himself out there where anyone can take shots at him.

This is the only part I disagree with him (here he's being like the asshole critics who review Shyamalan movies by writing he masturbates whenever he sees himself on film, and whatever). But except for that, he makes a really good point. A regular member of the audicnece could say what the EW lady said, but not a film critic, whose job is to watch movies and review them. If you don't watch them, you shut the fuck up and simply ignore it, but you don't write an article about stuff you've never even seen.
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: mogwai on September 25, 2007, 06:07:25 AM
Quote from: Eli "Douchebag" Roth on September 24, 2007, 11:10:23 PMWell, I have a suggestion: GET ANOTHER JOB.

well, I have a suggestion: LEAVE HER ALONE!!!
Title: Re: david lynch's genius protege....Eli ROTH..
Post by: The Sheriff on September 25, 2007, 06:23:02 AM
he coulda just said "i never dated her, i never met her in person, but shes a rabid cow bitch."
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Post by: children with angels on September 25, 2007, 07:23:45 AM
Schwarzbaum is a terrible film critic. To assume that any 'type' of film will always be the same, or always carry the same meaning, is ridiculous and critically very shallow. As I said in the Hostel II thread, I think that film is, for example, actually very defensible in terms of its sexual politics. Captivity happens to be too: they're both pretty blatantly ABOUT the victimisation of women, not intent on perpetuating it. For anyone who's interested, I go into more detail about this issue in my review of Hostel II here: http://www.alternatetakes.co.uk/?2007,7,166 .

Not all 'torture-porn' movies are particularly interesting. I thought the first Hostel was a sexist, homophobic rant, for example, and I too am not convinced by the argument that they're de facto good for bringing up the issue of torture in the time of Guantanamo. But equally they're not all indefensible, and as such they have to be assessed on an individual basis - that's just common sense, and to say otherwise is just dumb.
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Post by: grand theft sparrow on September 25, 2007, 09:34:07 AM
Quote from: The Sheriff on September 25, 2007, 06:23:02 AM
he coulda just said "i never dated her, i never met her in person, but shes a rabid cow bitch." wished cancer on her colon.

No one gives a shit about what Schwarzbaum isn't doing and why.  And no one gives a shit about Eli Roth, not even Schwarzbaum, who didn't mention him or his movies by name in her piece.  I think he's more hurt that she didn't name drop him.  It means his name isn't synonymous with horror yet.
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Post by: ElPandaRoyal on September 25, 2007, 09:53:12 AM
Quote from: just sparrow on September 25, 2007, 09:34:07 AMIt means his name isn't synonymous with horror yet.

Because she hasn't mentioned it?
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Post by: modage on September 25, 2007, 10:11:05 AM
i'm actually with roth on this one. 
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Post by: brockly on September 25, 2007, 10:39:48 PM
i hate them both
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Post by: squints on September 25, 2007, 10:56:25 PM
Quote from: brockly on September 25, 2007, 10:39:48 PM
i hate them both

i agree. eli roth can eat a dick for making shit movies and she can fuck off for criticizing movies she hasn't seen.
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Post by: ponceludon on September 26, 2007, 02:38:05 AM
I never read Schwartzbaum's columns for advice on films, since my tastes are usually different from hers, but I think she's right on that. I have seen a few movies that qualify as torture porn, and they really don't use the torture device for any purpose other than to satisfy people's ever-growing need for more and more gore. There is no message in these movies, there is no irony or point, really. It's just that moviegoers today don't get scared or affected by what horror used to be, so they keep upping the ante on disgusting and degrading, at the expense of the portrayal of women and foreigners on film.

I think Eli Roth gets way too defensive about it, since he tries to make it seem like he's some kind of visionary, but really he's just cashing in on that part of society that is, well, more bloodthirsty. Lots of directors exploit a certain demographic, like Tyler Perry or Jerry Bruckheimer, but for the most part, as ridiculously inane as their respective genres are, they are less high and mighty about the quality of the movies they make. Eli Roth needs to get off his high horse.
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 12, 2007, 07:49:43 PM
Eli Roth Confirms 'Trailer Trash' Date, New Details!
Source: Bloody-Disgusting     

After Eli Roth's faux trailer, THANKSGIVING, stole the show in Dimension Films' Grindhouse this past April, Roth confirmed rumors that he was working a feature length film entitled Trailer Trash. Not much was revealed other than it would be a full-length film consisting of fake movie trailers that all tie together. Today Roth confirmed that MGM will be releasing the film on August 22 and sent in a little bit more. Read on for the skinny.

Eli Roth writes into Bloody-Disgusting:

"...that's the date (August 22, 2008)! TRAILER TRASH was inspired by the two days we filmed "Thanksgiving," which was the most fun I've ever had filming anything.

Trailer Trash is not a horror film, it's a comedy. It will be very R-rated and completely insane, and I'm producing it with Mike Fleiss (who I did both "Hostel" films with), and writing it with my friends Jeff Rendell (my "Thanksgiving" co-writer, who also played The Pilgrim), Noah Belson (my co-creator on "The Rotten Fruit,") and my brother Gabe, who's collaborated with me on everything I've ever done.

I want to make a film like "Monty Python and the Holy Grail," which I consider to be the greatest achievement in the history of cinema. The best part is I get to shoot some new THANKSGIVING scenes, as well as other holiday slasher films I've always dreamed of making but never would because they'd completely ruin me. I can't wait to shoot!"
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Post by: 72teeth on October 12, 2007, 08:27:36 PM
this might get me to like him again...
hmm... i may have to skip it...
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 25, 2008, 03:03:55 PM
"Hostel" director ditching horror with new film

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Eli Roth, the director of the relentlessly gruesome "Hostel" movies, is aiming for a family crowd with his next project.

Roth told reporters on Wednesday he is two weeks away from finishing a script for a science-fiction action film inspired by the mainstream hits "Cloverfield" and "Transformers."

"This will be my first big-budget, PG-13, mass-destruction movie," he said backstage at the music industry's NME Awards in Los Angeles. "I went total chaos and pandemonium."

He declined to detail the plot ahead of a "big announcement" next month.

Films rated PG-13 in the United States strongly caution parents that some material may be inappropriate for children under 13. But they are easier to market than R-rated films, which require viewers under 17 to be accompanied by an adult.

"I feel like I pushed the violence in R movies about as far as I can push it. I feel like I'm bled out. I wanna switch it up," said the 36-year-old protege of Quentin Tarantino.

"Everyone I know has been saying 'When are you gonna do a movie my kids can see?' And finally, I'm gonna make a movie that 13-year-old kids can see."

Roth was in theaters last year with "Hostel: Part II," the latest in a string of films belonging to the so-called "torture porn" genre. As with its 2005 predecessor, it revolved around hapless backpackers who are killed for sport by paying customers in Slovakia.

In the sequel, the tables are turned and one of the customers is castrated by his female victim. Critics were appalled and audiences did not exactly rush to see it. Still, it was profitable even before its DVD release, Roth said.

While the "Hostel" films and Roth's equally violent 2002 feature debut "Cabin Fever" were set up at independent studio Lionsgate, he said he would shop the new project to "the big guns."
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Post by: MacGuffin on April 16, 2009, 01:30:59 AM
EXCLUSIVE: Eli Roth Reveals Plans to Shoot 'Transformers'-Like Blockbuster, 'Thanksgiving' Slasher Back-To-Back
Source: MTV

Filmmaker Eli Roth burst onto the scene a few years back with the gory, gruesome, great "Cabin Fever" and "Hostel" films, but has kept a relatively low profile ever since. Recently, he stopped by the MTV studio to tell us about his new top secret sci-fi screenplay, and the revolutionary double-barreled plan to finally film his "Grindhouse" trailer.

"I'm almost done with my new script," revealed Roth, whose upcoming return to glory also includes his first major acting role in Quentin Tarantino's "Inglourious Basterds" this August. "I was actually almost done with it before 'Basterds,' but I had to put it down, and that was actually a good thing I took time away from it, but I'm going to finish that up and start shooting this fall."

Although Roth couldn't tell us the film's name, he was enthusiastic about it being his first-ever big budget movie. "I don't want to give away the title yet, because I have to make sure I own it 100%, but it's going to be something that is really fun with lots of mass destruction," he said. "I wanted to do something along the lines of 'Transformers' or 'Cloverfield' that was a little more science fiction-based, and with lots of chaos and mass destruction."

"I don't want to say what [the monster is] yet," Roth added. "Once it gets set up, I will let everyone know. It is not aliens or robots or a virus - it's a little more grounded. But when people hear it they are going to be like 'That is going to be insane!'."

If that doesn't sound cool enough, here's where Roth's news gets really good: The filmmaker hopes to use the leftover budget from his blockbuster to finally shoot a low-budget, full-length version of his howlingly hilarious trailer from 2007's "Grindhouse."

"The plan is this: I want to do a huge budget movie, but tack on three weeks to the end of it and shoot 'Thanksgiving'," he revealed. "I want to do an $80 million dollar movie, and then schedule three weeks at the end to quickly shoot a $5 million dollar movie."

Roth said that after he shoots his untitled sci-fi blockbuster, he'll get back to his roots by filming "the sickest, bloodiest, most violent slasher movie," he said of the "Thanksgiving" flick inspired by the holiday-themed horror classics of the '80s. "I want to make the highest body count slasher film I can."

Once the sci-fi script is finished, Roth plans to shop the two movies around to studios, looking for an $85 million budget for the pair. "Yeah," he explained of the plan. "You just do them both."
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Post by: RegularKarate on April 16, 2009, 12:56:41 PM
Eli Roth is like that kid at school who tells one quick joke and people laugh so he just keeps riding that joke.  No one thinks it's funny anymore, but the cool kid started laughing at it so everyone else joins in, hoping to impress the cool kid.
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Post by: polkablues on April 17, 2009, 12:24:14 AM
I get the sense that Eli Roth could put out some good stuff if he just got over his own hype for a minute.  He's got some skills as a director, but he would be so much better in a director-for-hire role, working off of a solid script, than he is left completely to his own devices.  Cabin Fever was pretty atrocious, but both the Hostel movies flirted with excellence, even if they never sealed the deal with it. 

I'd really like to not have to hear him talk about how great he is, though.
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Post by: Stefen on April 17, 2009, 12:40:26 AM
The funniest thing about this thread is how many shitty flicks Eli Roth has lined up and how none of them ever get made. He's always mad stoked about some shitty movie and he'll tell everyone about how it's going to be an awesome flick, then a few months later he'll do the same thing for another movie he'll never make.

Also, the Schwartzbaum part was pretty funny. She calls him a hack and the dude can't even offer a coherent rebuttal.

Hostel is such a good idea but he fucked it all up. Imagine what someone like Dario Argento or David Cronenberg could have done with that idea.
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 10, 2009, 11:00:29 AM
Eli Roth In Talks With Universal for Funhouse Redo
Source: Fangoria

Eli Roth (soon to be seen in Inglourious Basterds) opened up to genre journalist Alan Jones about a number of projects the Hostel helmer has in the works. The one that made this writer raise an eyebrow is a remake of Tobe Hooper's The Funhouse.

About two weeks ago, one of our sources was raising some noise that Universal was kicking around the idea of dusting the property off. Yeah, that's true, and Roth is the one holding the Swiffer. He tells Fango that he's in talks with the studio to develop a remake under his newly-formed Arcade banner which he operates with producer Eric Newman.

"It should be about the kids getting killed in horrible ways, put in different contraptions in the funhouse and the final girl being strapped into the ride and sent into the tunnels to be confronted by terrifying tableaux of her dead friends," Roth says. "A smart remake could be so much fun. Kill the kids in fabulous ways and continually reuse the bodies by making them freaks in the freak museum, sew their eyes shut, waxworks... That's the stuff I want to do in a remake of The Funhouse."

He also says Cotton, the exorcism film directed by Daniel Stamm, is now rolling in Louisiana with a cast of unknowns. The plot sounds clever (a preacher sets out to debunk his exorcism rituals and faces a real possession). Applied with the documentary format, we could be in for a wild trip. Read more about that film here and a potential Andrew Kevin Walker/Roth team-up picture called Psycho Killer, a film that's told from the point of view of a slasher.
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Post by: Stefen on June 10, 2009, 11:10:28 AM
Oh, wow -- another project Eli Roth gushes about that he'll never ever make? Add it to the pile, please.
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 05, 2009, 07:27:16 PM
Filmmaker Eli Roth writing horror, sci-fi scripts

MORELIA, Mexico (Hollywood Reporter) - Life after the "Hostel" horror franchise is keeping producer-director Eli Roth busy these days as he juggles a handful of projects.

Roth said at the Morelia International Film Festival on Monday that he expects to finish a script this month for the sci-fi project "Endangered Species," which would mark his return to the director's chair after several years of focusing on acting and producing. Roth was visiting Morelia with Quentin Tarantino to promote "Inglourious Basterds," the festival's opening film.

Roth added that he is penning a script for the horror flick "Thanksgiving," which originally appeared as a faux trailer for Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez's "Grindhouse." He is directing, producing and possibly acting in the film.

As a producer, Roth and production partner Strike Entertainment will be showing director Daniel Stamm's exorcism movie "Cotton" to Sundance officials in two weeks. Roth also is developing the martial arts film "The Man With the Iron Fist" with rapper-turned-director Robert Fitzgerald Diggs, more commonly known as the RZA. Arcade, Roth and producer Eric Newman's shingle, are producing.

Roth is excited about charting new territory as a producer and director. "I haven't been this excited since the first 'Hostel,'" he said. "I had to divorce myself from the ('Hostel') project 100% to free up my brain for other things."
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Post by: Stefen on October 05, 2009, 08:38:29 PM
Throw it in the pile.
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Post by: wilder on April 04, 2014, 05:08:14 PM
Keanu Reeves, Eli Roth To Team On Thriller 'Knock Knock'
via Deadline

EXCLUSIVE: There are going to be plenty of film packages that spark buyers at Cannes, and here's a fresh one that isn't even waiting for the Croisette. Keanu Reeves has just committed to star for Eli Roth in Knock Knock, a psychological thriller that Roth wrote and will rothedirect.  Reeves will play a happily married family man who's left alone for the weekend. Two beautiful girls show up at his house, and turn his life upside down. Those femme fatales will be played by Lorenza Izzo, who just starred for Roth in the September 5 release The Green Inferno, and Ana de Armas, who just played Robert Duran's wife in Hands Of Stone opposite Edgar Ramirez and Robert De Niro. Ignacia Allamand, who also starred in Green Inferno, plays the man's wife. Colleen Camp, a catalyst in assembling this film as producer, will also play a role, as will Aaron Burns, who also just worked with Roth in The Green Inferno.

Roth confirmed all this for me, and said that it has all come together in what has to be record time. He wrote the script with Green Inferno collaborators Eli Roth, Nicolas Lopez, Guillermo Amoedo. Reeves loved it, just committed and has come aboard as exec producer. Roth starts production April 14 in Santiago, Chile (which is far from the earthquake so that is not a disruption).

"I had a window before I promote Green Inferno, and I wanted to make a movie like Roman Polanski or Paul Verhoeven made when they were young, a classic psychosexual thriller that's not a horror movie, but would have everyone on the edge of their seats. Getting Keanu is amazing, he's a fine actor who is perfect for this. I feel I can have this movie ready for Toronto if I need to, and he's catching a plane tomorrow and we'll be fitting him for wardrobe right away."

There is already scrapping going on by foreign sales companies chasing the international rights, and domestic distributors. CAA will be selling the domestic rights with Cassian Elwes and most of the dealmaking will take place in Cannes.

Camp, Roth, Nicolas Lopez, Miguel Asensio, Nicolas Lopez and Tim DeGraye are producing, while Teddy Schwarzman, Reeves, Peter Traynor, Larry Spiegel and Sondra Locke are exec producers. The film's a coproduction between Camp Grey, Black Bear Pictures, Sobras International Pictures. Roth tells me he will have a sizzle reel ready to show at the market at Cannes. Some have him pegged as the maker of splatter films, or the baseball bat swinging killer of Nazis from Inglourious Basterds. He is assuredly both of those, but he's at heart a shrewd filmmaker who knows how to cover the bases on the business side of his movies.