Something that's always stumped me: how did PDL cost over $20 million? Was it Sandler's salary, 'cause otherwise I can't see it...
I have a feeling that the film actually only cost $10 million, and PTA pocketed the rest
...for coke money. That's what I was thinking.
Quote from: MrBurgerKingI have a feeling that the film actually only cost $10 million, and PTA pocketed the rest
Yeah, and the producer went "Where did all that money go Paul?"....Paul answered wisely (as always) "Them plungers weren't exactly cheap!"
Add up Sandler, PSH, and Emily Watson's salaries and then make an inexpensive Hollywood production around 'em and you got your 20 mill' right there.
Quote from: MrBurgerKingI have a feeling that the film actually only cost $10 million, and PTA spent the rest on Big Macs...
... is what you shoulda said.
I guess the moving of the cast and crew to Hawaii can't have been cheap either...
Yeah, but almost $30 mill... I mean, Magnolia cost the same as this?? Magnolia was like War And Peace to it's Tv Guide.
i emailed greg aroudn the time it was released to ask him this and i believe he said in the 25-35 million range. (i guess the official figure is not one being shouted from the rooftops). but, perhaps with the whole first week or two of shooting completely scrapped maybe that sent a modest budget skyrocketing upwards a bit?
The coupons were expired, so the prop master had to pay full price for all that prop pudding.
Quote from: SoNowThenYeah, but almost $30 mill... I mean, Magnolia cost the same as this?? Magnolia was like War And Peace to it's Tv Guide.
Magnolia had a much bigger budget, didn't it????.....just curious
I think it was budgeted at 30 and came in around 34, and pdl came in at the higher 20's, but y'know, what's an extra couple mill here and there. I guess my point was that pdl looks like it cost $5 compared to Magnolia...I wanna know where the money went. Seriously, does anyone know Sandler's salary for this flick?
I will not refer to Big Macs. I have vowed never to make another fast food comment again.
Dammit, you must take that back. The fast food stuff always made my day. First time you post in one of my threads, and you don't even use your shtick. Please. More analogies. I loved 'em.
Quote from: SoNowThendoes anyone know Sandler's salary for this flick?
i believe sandler's salary was 7 million dollars.
i think MAGNOLIA cost 34 or 37 million dollars. i remember PTA saying something about the amiee mann's save me video was the most expensive music video ever made because they made it during the production of MAGNOLIA. funny guy, that PTA is, funny guy!
according to imdb.com
PDL cost 25 mil
Magnolia cost 37 mil
Quote from: SoNowThenYeah, but almost $30 mill... I mean, Magnolia cost the same as this?? Magnolia was like War And Peace to it's Tv Guide.
$25 mil doesn't seem like much money for
PDL, to me. Flying a cast and crew to Hawaii and shooting there is probably tremendously expensive;
Magnolia locations were stable and Hollywood-local.
Also, production costs soar every year. There was probably a significant change between 1999 and 2001.
Quote from: SoNowThenI think it was budgeted at 30 and came in around 34, and pdl came in at the higher 20's, but y'know, what's an extra couple mill here and there. I guess my point was that pdl looks like it cost $5 compared to Magnolia...I wanna know where the money went. Seriously, does anyone know Sandler's salary for this flick?
No...I totally see where you are coming from. I thought for sure Magnolia would be a lot higher in budget than that. But yes, compared to PDL, Magnolia is a gem for that kinda money. Not taking away from PDL, but other than the Hawaii trip, what possibly was the major expenses (other than the usual)?
I think Paul just took his time with this one, and time is money. Aside from scrapping the first week or so of photography, it costs a lot to stop and restart a production -- which they did, to accomodate Deeds. And Emily Watson said they'd often only shoot at magic hour -- which means they probably only got two hours of shooting tops on some days. Doing things like that are unheard of on most shoots...but PTA clearly had the clout to do whatever he wanted. And he didn't go over budget one penny (or so he claims)!
Quote from: GhostboyPTA clearly had the clout to do whatever he wanted.
"Final cut: it's a scary thing to give to a guy like me..."
PTA is getting more freedom because he is taking a page from Kubrick's book and that is you get more time and resources when you cut down on production people on set working every day. Kubrick averaged 5 to 7 guys tops on a set at a time during any major movie. I know PTA has cut back big time and is working with a familiar crew because he said so some time back and referenced visiting Eyes Wide Shut set, but I wonder how far he has cut back.
~rougerum
Quote from: GhostboyI think Paul just took his time with this one, and time is money. Aside from scrapping the first week or so of photography, it costs a lot to stop and restart a production -- which they did, to accomodate Deeds. And Emily Watson said they'd often only shoot at magic hour -- which means they probably only got two hours of shooting tops on some days. Doing things like that are unheard of on most shoots...but PTA clearly had the clout to do whatever he wanted. And he didn't go over budget one penny (or so he claims)!
Why exactly does stopping and starting production cost money?
And magic hour would be? I'm guessing it has something to do with weather in Hawaii, but I could be wrong.
Quote from: GhostboyAnd Emily Watson said they'd often only shoot at magic hour -- which means they probably only got two hours of shooting tops on some days.
Which must be why, to me, it looks like it cost a helluva lot more than $5 to make... I think the look of the film is very textured, very palpable. I love when they meet and Watson looks angelic in the after-dawn sunlight.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaQuote from: GhostboyI think Paul just took his time with this one, and time is money. Aside from scrapping the first week or so of photography, it costs a lot to stop and restart a production -- which they did, to accomodate Deeds. And Emily Watson said they'd often only shoot at magic hour -- which means they probably only got two hours of shooting tops on some days. Doing things like that are unheard of on most shoots...but PTA clearly had the clout to do whatever he wanted. And he didn't go over budget one penny (or so he claims)!
Why exactly does stopping and starting production cost money?
And magic hour would be? I'm guessing it has something to do with weather in Hawaii, but I could be wrong.
It's a fairly common film term. Robert Benton sez:
"magic hour" is a film term for those last couple of hours of daylight, when the light, coming through a polluted atmosphere, is the most golden and most beautiful. Cinematographers always wait; they always want to start shooting about two hours before sunset. They have to shoot all day long, but they try to save the big shots, the shots that mean something, until those moments. The light on the faces is so beautiful, that kind of golden light, and what it does to the landscape is so extraordinary."See anything by Terence Malick for what it looks like.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaAnd magic hour would be? I'm guessing it has something to do with weather in Hawaii, but I could be wrong.
It's the time of day when the last bit of sunshine appears at sunset, giving soft light instead of the hard, brightness of say around 12 noon.
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Did PDL lose money at the box office? Granted it should make it back with foreign sales and the upcoming DVD, but IIRC the imdb listed its total theatre revenue overwhelmingly low compared to its budget..
It was the Piano shot at the first, they had to use 1894803 of those little piano's.
Quote from: SalDid PDL lose money at the box office? Granted it should make it back with foreign sales and the upcoming DVD, but IIRC the imdb listed its total theatre revenue overwhelmingly low compared to its budget..
Did very bad...but DVD will help.....(speaking only of what they were expecting)......
hmm...very surprising figures. i would have guessed that the budget for PDL would have equaled the budget for the intro to Magnolia alone.
According to IMBD it made $17,791,031 in the US, so it didn't really lose that much. I'm thinking once you add international it came close to breaking even, and once DVD sales/rentals come in...
You will also find Magnolia was cheap compared to PDL because Tom Cruise worked for free
Quote from: auroraYou will also find Magnolia was cheap compared to PDL because Tom Cruise worked for free
I know he worked cheap but I didn't hear "free"
Also.. why are you all talking about flying a cast/crew to a location?
The more expensive part is the film/developing etc... im sure the airfare is a much lower percent of the cost of the film
Quote from: 82Quote from: auroraYou will also find Magnolia was cheap compared to PDL because Tom Cruise worked for free
I know he worked cheap but I didn't hear "free"
Also.. why are you all talking about flying a cast/crew to a location?
The more expensive part is the film/developing etc... im sure the airfare is a much lower percent of the cost of the film
You have to feed and house that cast and crew in addition to their wages, as well. And maybe deal with local unions/equipment providers, etc.
Quote from: Reed RothchildIt was the Piano shot at the first, they had to use 1894803 of those little piano's.
but the piano doesn't get broken...
Not that I give a flying fuck about what Punch-Drunk Love cost, but did Anderson even take the majority of his crew to Hawaii?
Usually what'll happen is a whole other crew [bar the DOP and other essential crew members] will be hired in the new locale.
Quote from: The Silver BulletNot that I give a flying fuck about what Punch-Drunk Love cost, but did Anderson even take the majority of his crew to Hawaii?
Looks like it. There were only a small amount of crew members listed under Hawaii crew at the end credits (drivers, extras casting, catering, etc.). There is no listing for Utah crew so it looks all went there too.
I guess it isn't really that shocking, not with PTA. From the commentaries, interviews and behind the scenes stuff, you can gauge that he regards his crew as one big family. Hawaii though? Christ...
Me wonders if he knows each person by name.
Quote from: bonanzatazQuote from: Reed RothchildIt was the Piano shot at the first, they had to use 1894803 of those little piano's.
but the piano doesn't get broken...
...not in any of the shots they were able to use. Is what I think was being implied...
Quote from: SHAFTRAccording to IMBD it made $17,791,031 in the US, so it didn't really lose that much. I'm thinking once you add international it came close to breaking even, and once DVD sales/rentals come in...
But how much does DVD cost to press and distribute? Obviously not substantial, but is home distribution part of a film's initial budget?