so do you guys see any comparisons between the two? I could include some of Altman as well. But do you think Tarantino and Godard are on the same page or complete opposites. I can't decide. But I find myself linking the two together.
I enjoy Godard more than tarantino. they both show their love for films. but godard destroys the fourth wall (or whatever it's called) and tarntino loves to show his admiration of certain film genres. so they are different in that godard laughs at the process of films and the reality and fantasy of it all, while tarantino enjoys the fact that he's making something that is pure fantasy. The thing that links them together, i think, is a need to add their twist on films of the past, but not quite make it a spoof.
not a completely realized idea, as it just came to me, but maybe someone can add something to this...
i see the link. tarantino talks about godard on the reservoirs dogs 10th anniversary dvd
he says godard was just a phase
the correct thread title is: Tarantino and Melville
but yeah, I think QT likes to borrow ideas from JLG, too. but hey, what self-respecting director doesn't?
Quote from: SoNowThenthe correct thread title is: Tarantino and Melville
I don't know much about Melville. Are they alike at all?
Stylistically I don't see any similarities. I think the early Godard is similar to Tarantino insofar as their exuberance and love of movies is concerned. They both love cheap American gangster films...
Quote from: luctruffso do you guys see any comparisons between the two? I could include some of Altman as well. But do you think Tarantino and Godard are on the same page or complete opposites. I can't decide. But I find myself linking the two together.
I enjoy Godard more than tarantino. they both show their love for films. but godard destroys the fourth wall (or whatever it's called) and tarntino loves to show his admiration of certain film genres. so they are different in that godard laughs at the process of films and the reality and fantasy of it all, while tarantino enjoys the fact that he's making something that is pure fantasy. The thing that links them together, i think, is a need to add their twist on films of the past, but not quite make it a spoof.
not a completely realized idea, as it just came to me, but maybe someone can add something to this...
They use similar techniques, but to very, very different ends. Godard is so much more cerebral than Tarantino, and Tarantino is so much more visceral than Godard, that even though a comparison seems apt because of their freedom and irreverence when it comes to genres/styles, I don't see much meaningful similarity between the two.
If I had to pick one, I would choose Godard with total certainty.
i was thinking this the other day.
they both had studied films religiously before even making one, so they both already knew the in's and out's of film making.
with this knowledge they both do/did things "you're not supposed to do" in filmmaking.
Godard was definitely more extreme in this practice
my film teacher once said "ah yes, tarantino. its like... godard made fun"
just to make it clear, he loves godard. hes one of his top 3 favorite filmmakers
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::does his best roadruner impression sprinkled w/ a little gilbert godfrey and a dash of moxie::
-"ummm...ummm...A-HA! they are both film-makers "
"i lost 5 lbs. BTW
I think Godard's earlier films and Tarantino match up well.
In Band of Outsiders, the characters break into an impromptu dance routine at a cafe, and perhaps that influenced Tarantino to stage the Travolta-Uma dance at Jack Rabbit Slim's.
Tarantino stages scenes in Pulp Fictino and NBK with characters having long conversations in corridors, which reminds me of Godard, especially Alphaville.
Tarantino was inspired by 70's exploitation movies the way Godard was inspired by American B-movies of the 40's.
Quote from: soixanteIn Band of Outsiders, the characters break into an impromptu dance routine at a cafe, and perhaps that influenced Tarantino to stage the Travolta-Uma dance at Jack Rabbit Slim's.
Tarantino stages scenes in Pulp Fictino and NBK with characters having long conversations in corridors, which reminds me of Godard, especially Alphaville.
Tarantino was inspired by 70's exploitation movies the way Godard was inspired by American B-movies of the 40's.
adding to the first point: I believe QT had Uma mimmick some of Anna Karina's dance moves from My Life To Live as well...
Quote from: SoNowThenQuote from: soixanteIn Band of Outsiders, the characters break into an impromptu dance routine at a cafe, and perhaps that influenced Tarantino to stage the Travolta-Uma dance at Jack Rabbit Slim's.
Tarantino stages scenes in Pulp Fictino and NBK with characters having long conversations in corridors, which reminds me of Godard, especially Alphaville.
Tarantino was inspired by 70's exploitation movies the way Godard was inspired by American B-movies of the 40's.
adding to the first point: I believe QT had Uma mimmick some of Anna Karina's dance moves from My Life To Live as well...
Not to mention hairstyle/"look."
Still, all peripheral likenesses. Very, very different purposes; very different inspiration/motivation to be a filmmaker, I would think. Godard made film essays; Tarantino makes film bull-sessions.
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FF to the end
Ah yes... this reminds me of why, my healthy admiration for his fimmaking abilities aside, I could stand to never hear Quentin Tarantino speaking "in person" again.
He and Oliver Stone should start a Crackpot Director's Club, where they can gather around a shrine to Sam Fuller and talk out of their asses. Maybe get it out of their system and spare us...
Godard Slams Tarantino
Legendary director Jean-Luc Godard has hit out at Quentin Tarantino - one of his biggest admirers - for using the title of one of his 1960s films without financially rewarding him. Maverick film-maker Tarantino took the name Band A Parte (Band Of Outsiders) from the New Wave icon's 1964 movie and used it as the name for his production company. But Breathless filmmaker Godard, 74, is less than impressed by the Pulp Fiction director's intended flattery. He says, "Tarantino named his production company after one of my films. He would have done better to give me some money."
its sad when your hero hates you
It's sad when your hero wants to borrow money.
Quote from: soixanteIn Band of Outsiders, the characters break into an impromptu dance routine at a cafe, and perhaps that influenced Tarantino to stage the Travolta-Uma dance at Jack Rabbit Slim's.
I was thinking about this the other day - I am positive (thought can not prove) that the dancing sequence at Jack Rabbit's was taken from the scene in 81/2 at the Spa, where Marcello's older friend is dancing with his young lover with the dark black hair (looks strikingly similar to uma thurman hair).
The dance moves, the camera angles - tit for tat as far as I'm concerned.
i believe somewhere on the Reservoir Dogs DVD Tarantino says he doesn't really care much for Godard anymore.
Quote from: bigideasi believe somewhere on the Reservoir Dogs DVD Tarantino says he doesn't really care much for Godard anymore.
so he has some sense afterall..
I respect and admire Godard but fuck, can't you just be flattered that someone once loved you enough to name his proco after you?
I hope that if I ever become a successful filmmaker, I don't transform into an egocentric prick.
Godard should get money from Alphaville Productions, the folks who brought you Dazed and Confused.