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Title: Tom Waits
Post by: meatwad on June 20, 2003, 11:13:00 AM
i have not been here long, but since i have been here i have not seen a thread for tom waits. He is my all time favorite, every album he puts out is a classic. Listen to Rain Dogs and your life will be changed




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Title: Tom Waits
Post by: phil marlowe on June 20, 2003, 11:42:41 AM
WOO! first a topic on brazil and now this. i'm regaining my respect for you xixaxers.

tom waits is my favourite musician ever and i love ALL his albums, favorites must be swordfishthrombones, rain dogs and franks wild years but everything else is gold too. his latest three albums have all been masterpieces in my oppinion especially alice. i would die to see one of those wilson plays.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Mesh on June 20, 2003, 11:50:15 AM
Quote from: Phil Marlowetom waits is my favourite musician ever and i love ALL his albums, favorites must be swordfishthrombones, rain dogs and franks wild years but everything else is gold too. his latest three albums have all been masterpieces in my oppinion especially alice. i would die to see one of those wilson plays.

Plus, he was great as Renfield in Coppola's Dracula.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 20, 2003, 11:51:58 AM
Me and 'Phil Marlowe' have had your share of whishey and Tom Waits. No, seriously I love this guy. I wouldn't say I'm a fan, cause I don't like all his work. Some of it is a little too....spooky. My favorites would be 'Small Change', 'Mule Variations' and 'Swordfish Trombone'.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: phil marlowe on June 20, 2003, 11:53:05 AM
Quote from: MeshPlus, he was great as Renfield in Coppola's Dracula.
yeah, bugs and all...he really is a good actor. hes great in short cuts and down by law too.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 20, 2003, 11:54:40 AM
Quote from: Mesh
Quote from: Phil Marlowetom waits is my favourite musician ever and i love ALL his albums, favorites must be swordfishthrombones, rain dogs and franks wild years but everything else is gold too. his latest three albums have all been masterpieces in my oppinion especially alice. i would die to see one of those wilson plays.

Plus, he was great as Renfield in Coppola's Dracula.

Hey check out 'Iron Weed' it's a really cool film. Waits and Nicholson are both really great.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: children with angels on June 20, 2003, 12:40:59 PM
Yes!!!! The WAITS...!

Love the guy. Love him. So sad, yet so funny. One of the greatest voices you can possibly hear. I think Small Change is my favourite album, with The Piano Has Been Drinking (Not Me) being one of my favourite songs of all time.
Oh, the blues, the blues, the whisky-soaked, crooked-smile, lazy tune, heart-rending, smoke-filled, beautiful blues...

Quote from: Phil Marlowei would die to see one of those wilson plays.

Would Woyzek be one of the ones you're talking about? I saw it in London: superb. At one point they had a mechanical monkey singing in Tom's voice - magic...!
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: phil marlowe on June 21, 2003, 06:03:24 AM
Quote from: children with angels
Quote from: Phil Marlowei would die to see one of those wilson plays.
Would Woyzek be one of the ones you're talking about? I saw it in London: superb. At one point they had a mechanical monkey singing in Tom's voice - magic...!
YES! ahh voyzeck...i remember wanting to see it sooo bad but nobody wanted to go with me and i didn't really wanted to go alone. i remember it getting crazy reviews, the critics really loved it. other wilson(is that his name???) would be the black rider and alice and more i guess. the next one will be premiering in denmark so i'm psyked.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: cowboykurtis on June 21, 2003, 07:05:44 PM
riding with lady luck
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: life_boy on June 22, 2003, 04:26:05 AM
I picked up 'Small Change' for 3 bucks at a used CD shop and was very happy with it.  That is the only Tom I am familiar with.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Sigur Rós on June 22, 2003, 06:03:14 AM
Quote from: life_boyI picked up 'Small Change' for 3 bucks at a used CD shop and was very happy with it.  That is the only Tom I am familiar with.

It's a great place to start!
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: meatwad on June 22, 2003, 12:39:18 PM
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everybody needs to own this album
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: filmcritic on June 29, 2003, 01:14:48 AM
I think that maybe my favorite two Tom Waits songs are "Alice" and "The World Keeps Turning" from "Pollock.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: kotte on June 12, 2004, 11:33:01 AM
I'm just getting into Waits and man, I fucking love him.

I'm not yet in the position to name favourite songs and albums but I just ordered Rain dogs and Swordfishtrombones.

There is something poetic about his music and voice...it gets under my skin and into my heart.

Doesn't happen too often.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Bethie on June 13, 2004, 11:43:36 PM
I fecking love Tom Waits.  Some people I know say he has the worst voice and then they proceeded to laugh. I didn't let it get to me though because I know I have superior taste.  :wink:
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: meatwad on June 14, 2004, 05:47:38 PM
if you have soulseek, download his live vh1 storytellers set. he is such a master storyteller, it is one of the best live sets from him that i've heard.

and he is working on a new album right now. should be out in the fall, and hopefully he will play some shows. I know he never does, but i can always wish
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: LostEraser on June 14, 2004, 10:03:38 PM
Oh, kick ass! A Tom Waits forum. He's my favorite music artist of all time too! Cool, I'm not alone. Swordfishtrombones, Rain Dogs, and Franks Wild Years are three of my favorite pieces of art of all time. The nocturnal world he creates - full of outcast drunks, protitutes, and hitchhikers, noen lit bars, and all nite diners - is the closest example I can think of to the kind of world I want to create with my films. If I we're to make a top ten list of all my heros it would probably be full of 9 filmmakers and Tom Waits. He's that important to me.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: The Obstruction on June 25, 2004, 05:51:35 AM
While we are talking about Tom Waits, then lets take a look at some of the plays he has written music for : Woyzeck and The Black Rider.

I haven't seen Black Rider, but i saw Woyzeck because it opened in Copenhagen, and it was fantastic. The story is about a poor soldier who kills his wifes lover and the wife, because of jalousi, mayby not the most complicated thing.
But Tom waits music, which are on the BLOOD MONEY album transforms this simple story into a dark and intgiging story about two of the simpelst and complicated feelings love and jalousi.

Also the scenography are fantastci look at the IMG,it was a fantastic experience.

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Title: Tom Waits
Post by: cowboykurtis on June 25, 2004, 11:10:31 AM
"closing time" is possibly my favorite album of all time -- on his later stuff i.e. rain dogs, he seemed to have departed from the "sound" of closing time. can anyone suggest any album of his , thats similar to closing time. its his earlier years before his voice was a complete gravel pit.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: RegularKarate on June 25, 2004, 12:49:22 PM
"Closing time" is one of my least favorite Waits albums... Made before he established a real style or at least before he was able to excersize it.

Nighthawks is great, but Small Change is where it's at.  That's wher the music just really makes you want to cry drunkenly.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Finn on June 25, 2004, 12:55:13 PM
I just got his album, "Alice". It's probaby one if not the best album by Tom Waits.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Ghostboy on June 25, 2004, 01:42:41 PM
The only ones I have are Mule Variations, Black Rider, Small Change and Rain Dogs; Small Change is definitely my favorite of those, that and Mule Variations. Small Change is so steeped in eloquent misery that it makes you feel good to be depressed.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: coffeebeetle on July 02, 2004, 06:46:24 PM
I'm so happy and relieved to know there are many Tom Waits fans.  My fave album:

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Title: Tom Waits
Post by: rustinglass on July 03, 2004, 03:54:27 AM
Quote from: RegularKarate"Closing time" is one of my least favorite Waits albums... Made before he established a real style or at least before he was able to excersize it.

Nighthawks is great, but Small Change is where it's at.  That's wher the music just really makes you want to cry drunkenly.

Come on,  man, closing time is great! That song "Martha" is one of my favourite songs, it's so fucking perfect.
Some people hate this album because they are so obsessed with his drunken roar of a voice that they don't like him when his voice was smooth. But that has nothing to do with why I love closing time, I like it cause it's got some of the most beautiful songs ever.

My favourite tom waits albums:

closing time
swordfish trombones
raindogs (kinda)
frank's wild years
alice.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Pedro on July 03, 2004, 03:56:05 AM
rain dogs and small change are tied for best.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: GoneSavage on July 04, 2004, 12:10:38 PM
All fans should listen to meatwad, that Storytellers set is phenomenal.  It's hugely entertaining.  I sure wish that man would tour.

cowboy, there is a collection out of all his early stuff.  Just like coffeebeatle's preference, there is a collection of his early stuff as well.  Waits' career seems to work in cycles so having the collections is a nice way to introduce yourself to the different eras of songwriting and performance.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: kotte on July 05, 2004, 10:10:45 AM
Misery is the River of the World.

Coolest and best song ever. From 'Blood Money' I think.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: kotte on July 12, 2004, 11:49:03 AM
Been listening to it alot lately and I gotta say...Blood Money makes pain feel cool...

It's my favourite album right now.

Big Time is also great.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: meatwad on July 13, 2004, 12:01:02 AM
Real Gone: Tom Waits has completed groundbreaking new CD for ANTI- Records--titled "Real Gone"-- out October 5th!
June 30, 2004

Academy Award nominated and Grammy Award winner, Tom Waits has been long considered one of music's most influential artists because he has continuously created music outside of fad or fashion. With REAL GONE, his off-road adventures are taken into the further beyond. Mixing and mashing: worlds both sonic and ethnic, musical traditions both new and old, and rhythms both mouth-made and sampled from his own instruments, Waits has reached a new pinnacle.

Written and produced by Tom Waits and Kathleen Brennan, his wife and long-time collaborator, REAL GONE features 15 tracks of funk, Jamaican rock-steady, blues both urban and rural, rhythms and melodies both Latin and African and, for the first time, no piano.

The crash and collide of rhythms and genres within a song creates a hybrid unlike any music he has made before. The comic, funky, hip-hop/r&b inspired instructional dance number, "Metropolitan Glide" ("now show your teeth, bray like a calf/Then kill me with your machine gun laugh") and the sonic mayhem and nonsense rhyme ride to "Top of the Hill" (why don't you give me another cup of that soup?/Turn a Rolls Royce into a chicken coop") are both punctuated by a live band and turntable playing along to Waits' home recorded voice percussion.

Lyrically and musically the kinetic songs play against the haunting lull of the ballads. The epic, ominous and hypnotic Jamaican rock-steady groove of, "Sins of the Father," follows the dark trails of straying, passed on from generation to generation, from those at the top to those at the bottom and back around again, echoing a theme of the record.

While Waits has traditionally used his voice as an actor, inhabiting each song with a different vocal character, on numerous songs here, he also uses it as chugging, sputtering, wheezing syncopated engine of sound and rhythm that can explode like a string of sidewalk firecrackers or sound like the indecipherable incantations of a street corner shaman.

REAL GONE is a phrase that describes a place, a time beyond reach: a lost mind, a renegade leader, war love sublime, love lost, death, desire, escape. These are the themes of the record inspired by the giddy lust, high voltage, out of orbit times---a vertigo of splash and trash popular culture spinning alongside the gun to our head and the knife in our heart political times or as "Shake It" says, "I feel like a preacher waving a gun around."

REAL GONE is also an expression used by musicians to describe the experience of playing and losing yourself to the place where you can finally be found.

In a musical career that has spanned four decades and over 20 albums "Waits has," according the Los Angeles Times Robert Hilburn, "come through it all with a body of work that stamps him clearly as one of the most important figures of the modern pop era." REAL GONE adds more weight to that claim.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Finn on August 07, 2004, 06:03:41 PM
I just heard The Fall of Troy by Waits. It's amazing!
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: meatwad on September 06, 2004, 09:42:40 AM
the new album "Real Gone" is available on soulseek now. get it. it's really good

and why is rhazel on all these good albums all of a sudden?
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: GoneSavage on September 09, 2004, 09:57:23 PM
Apparently he is charging an arm and a leg for tickets on his UK tour.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: phil marlowe on September 10, 2004, 07:33:01 AM
i like it alot so far. it seems he's going back to the style of bone machine again which is good but this is even trashier. the man says it's a dance record - how fucked up(great) is that!
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Sleuth on September 10, 2004, 02:58:34 PM
hey dude
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: cine on September 10, 2004, 03:13:48 PM
Quote from: GoneSavageApparently he is charging an arm and a leg for tickets on his UK tour.
This just in: Tom Waits Hates Lepers
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: phil marlowe on September 10, 2004, 07:57:40 PM
sup tremoloslobhsleuth  

:!:
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: kotte on September 13, 2004, 06:54:07 PM
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Amazing it is!!
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: cowboykurtis on September 13, 2004, 08:32:16 PM
just watched one from the heart -- waits was the best part of it, along with stararro -- everything else was pretty awful , ambitious  but underwhelming -- it still puzzles me why coppola casted fred forrest -- very mis-cast film in my opinion -- could've been something more with different talent in front of the lens.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: hedwig on September 19, 2004, 12:40:40 AM
I love Tom Waits. I can't decide whose hair I think is the coolest, though:

David Lynch
Wes Anderson (pre-Life Aquatic)
Jim Jarmusch

or...

Tom Waits?

ya thoughts?
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: kotte on September 20, 2004, 03:04:44 AM
Waits ofcourse...

he's fucking rolemodel...a more original artist out there doing is own thing is hard to find.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: 03 on September 20, 2004, 12:02:12 PM
the best hair is fire or if you were created from wood; a stained peeled back bark
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: hedwig on September 20, 2004, 09:17:14 PM
Quote from: kotteWaits ofcourse...

he's fucking rolemodel...a more original artist out there doing is own thing is hard to find.

But do you really think he's got cooler hair than Jim Jarmusch?!
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Dude....

Hmm.

My favorite Waits album so far is Small Change -- "The Piano Has Been Drinking," classic, hilarious, beautiful. And of course, my favorite, "Invitation to the Blues." So heartbreaking. I love Tom Waits.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: GoneSavage on September 20, 2004, 10:03:25 PM
Quote from: kotteWaits ofcourse...

he's fucking rolemodel...a more original artist out there doing is own thing is hard to find.
yeah.

I will still find a way to see him despite his outrageous ticket prices.  What a bummer that is.  (70 pounds before service in England)
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: meatwad on November 09, 2004, 03:31:41 PM
Tom Waits is planning a US Tour for '05 as we speak. The shows in Europe are selling out quickly i hear, and his show one US show for '04, in Seattle, sold out in 5 minutes i heard

also found this...

09/29/2004- TOM WAITS RECORDS WITH EELS:
The rumors are true. As stated in the official bio for Tom Waits' new album "Real Gone," Tom Waits and the EELS have collaborated on a track for the upcoming EELS album, "BLINKING LIGHTS and Other Revelations," due out in 2005.

//www.eelstheband.com
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: RegularKarate on November 09, 2004, 04:51:10 PM
I've heard a rumor that he won't ever play Austin again because someone wouldn't let his manager into the club or something.  Very rumory and beyond second hand... I hope it's not true.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: GoneSavage on November 10, 2004, 03:23:51 PM
There are so many great rumors about him and you go and bring that boring one up.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: RegularKarate on November 10, 2004, 03:39:51 PM
I bring it up because I live in Austin... it affects me.

I also heard he got so drunk one night that he fucked a lamp post.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: cine on November 10, 2004, 03:52:05 PM
Quote from: RegularKarateI also heard he got so drunk one night that he fucked a lamp post.
While GoneSavage watched.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: GoneSavage on November 10, 2004, 08:37:30 PM
Quote from: RegularKarateI bring it up because I live in Austin... it affects me.

I also heard he got so drunk one night that he fucked a lamp post.
Now we're on the right track, Sally.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: Ghostboy on November 25, 2004, 01:26:10 PM
I finally picked up Real Gone, and what a joy it is. Just a whole lot of fun. Hoist That Rag and Make It Rain ranks with his all-time best.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: The Silver Bullet on December 09, 2004, 04:53:10 PM
Real Gone is indeed fantastic.
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on July 11, 2005, 02:21:02 PM
I found a file that was Tom Waits playing music to Allen Ginsberg reading "America."

I downloaded it, so I don't know if it's really Tom Waits or Ginsberg, it does sound like them, but you never really can trust what a file says these days.

Can anyone confirm this file's existence?
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: ᾦɐļᵲʊʂ on September 15, 2005, 05:07:03 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050915/ap_en_bu/people_tom_waits_lawsuit

Singer Waits Files Suit Against GM Unit

By MATT MOORE

FRANKFURT, Germany - Singer-songwriter     Tom Waits said Thursday he has filed a lawsuit against a unit of automaker General Motors Corp. and a German advertising agency for allegedly using a soundalike in a series of European ads.

The 55-year-old singer, whose distinct, gravelly voice has won him two     Grammy Awards, filed the civil lawsuit this week with a state court in Frankfurt, listing Adam Opel AG and the advertising firm McCann Erickson as the defendants.

Andreas Schumacher, Waits' German lawyer, said the singer was approached numerous times about doing the ads last year, but declined, citing a policy of not doing commercials. He said the firm then hired a soundalike and the ads aired earlier this year in Sweden, Finland, Denmark and Norway.

"We have sent copies of the lawsuit to McCann Erickson and Opel," Schumacher said.

Waits is seeking damages and any profits derived from the ads for violating his personality rights, Schumacher said.

"Apparently the highest compliment our culture grants artists nowadays is to be in an ad — ideally naked and purring on the hood of a new car. I have adamantly and repeatedly refused this dubious honor," Waits said in a statement. "While the court can't make me active in radio, I am asking it to make me radioactive to advertisers."

Ralf Specht, the manager of McCann Erickson in Frankfurt, said the agency spoke with Waits in May and had changed the music in the ad campaign. He said the company had not gotten a copy of the lawsuit yet. An Opel spokesman said he couldn't comment because the company had not received a copy of the lawsuit.

Waits' albums include the Grammy-winning "Bone Machine" and "Mule Variations."

As an actor, he has appeared in "The Outsiders," "The Fisher King" and "Bram Stoker's Dracula."
Title: Tom Waits
Post by: 72teeth on September 15, 2005, 05:09:57 PM
Quote"Apparently the highest compliment our culture grants artists nowadays is to be in an ad — ideally naked and purring on the hood of a new car. I have adamantly and repeatedly refused this dubious honor," Waits said in a statement. "While the court can't make me active in radio, I am asking it to make me radioactive to advertisers

I heart Tom Waits...
Title: Re: Tom Waits
Post by: kotte on April 08, 2006, 06:38:33 PM
I'm watching a concert DVD from his Real Gone tour. Fuck, I should've bought the ticket. I could've gone to Ámsterdam, shopped some coffee and Really Gone Waits crazy but no...I had important meetings to attend. It would've been worth losing my job for.

The DVD is audience filmed but it is of very good quality...and the sound is DAT. Get it if you can. The Amsterdam concert...not London (poor sound).

He's too fucking good.