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They are virtually all I listen to.  I was wondering it anyone else is in the same boat.

Absoultely. They're still one of my favorites and I expect they always will be. I never got to see them live, but I did get to see Billy a month ago on Zwan's U.S. tour. I caught Billy's pick when he threw it, giving me a fine little piece of rock memorbilia.

Smashing Pumkins will go down as one of the greatest rock bands of all time.  Billy Corgan is a genius.  So yeah, I like them.

Glad to know there are some people who listen to them.  I'd be willing to call them one of the most underrated rock bands of all time as well as one of the best.

Adore is sorely misunderstood, but I love it.  I also love the darker side of MACHINA, as heard in songs like "Glass and the Ghost Machines" and "Blue Skies Bring Tears".

What do you guys think of MACHINA II?

I never downloaded it, so I wouldn't know

i went to darcy's wedding -- it was fun.

I didn't like either Machina album, but the rest are all great. I got kinda worn out on them towards the end, partially because I listened to them so much. I saw them twice, once on the Melon Collie tour and then once on their farewell tour. That last one wasn't very enjoyable.

Adore is my favorite album of theirs by far. Really really really underrated and brilliant.

I'm the biggest SP fan in the world! I'm serious.  :-D

Quote from: Sigur RósI'm the biggest SP fan in the world! I'm serious.  :-D

QUESTION FOR SIGUR ROS

does Set The Ray To Jerry remind you of Njosnavelin or am I just insane

I don't believe it.

Listen to MACHINA again.  Listen to "Glass and the Ghost Machines", "Blue Skies Bring Tears", "This Time", "With Every Light", and "Age of Innosence".  That stuff is great.

I'm not a huge fan of MACHINA II.  Although it's probably my least favorite of their albums, it's got some real gems.  The alternate version of "Try" is one of my favorite SP songs ever.  I also like the alternate "Heavy Metal Machine".  It's some great grungy sounding techno.

Does anyone have a "The Aeroplane Flies High" Box Set they want to sell?  I need one.

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Quote from: Sigur RósI'm the biggest SP fan in the world! I'm serious.  :-D

QUESTION FOR SIGUR ROS

does Set The Ray To Jerry remind you of Njosnavelin or am I just insane

maybe the guitarsound is kind of similar. I can't really see any obvious connection....but you're not insane though  :wink:

Mellon Collie & The Infinite Sadness, Siamese Dream, Adore, and Machina I are great, the rest, I think, can go.

the smashing pumpkins used to be my favourite band, but through time i kinda lost the interrest. i do still enjoy adore, mellon collie and siamese dreams once in a while. zwan though, keeps a distance.

I need The Aeroplane Flies High.  Where can I get it for cheap?

My favorite SP songs are (in no order):

1979
Try (alt)
Heavy Metal Machine (alt)
Glass and the Ghost Children
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Rhinoceros
Thirty-Three
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
The Aeroplane Flies High
Today
Rocket
Spaceboy
The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
Blank Page
Cherub Rock
Zero
Sparrow
Glass' Theme
Tonite, Tonite
Eye
Ava Adore
Plume
Pissant
Obscured
Thru the Eyes of Ruby

There are many others, but those are the ones that stick out in my mind right now.

Dude! Where's

Stumbleine (Best song top play on guitar late, drunk, in front of a fire)
Galopogos ("Ain't it funny how we pretend we're still a child?" COME ON!)
By Starlight (Aaaaaaaaah...)
Luna (Beautiful: "I'm in love with you, I'm in love with you, I'm in love with you...")
Cupid de locke (favourite of all time)
Mayonnaise (former ultimate teenage angst track for me)
Frewell and Goodnight (Fall asleep forever to this song...)   ?

For me, Melon Collie is definitely their best album, no question. They so wonderfully make a whole world out of their music on it - you don't ever want to leave... Also, one of the most musically varied albums of all time.

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Stumbleine (Best song top play on guitar late, drunk, in front of a fire)

For me, Melon Collie is definitely their best album, no question. They so wonderfully make a whole world out of their music on it - you don't ever want to leave... Also, one of the most musically varied albums of all time.

Absolutely correct

the song 'bodies' from mellon collie is their best ever. but i must admid that it is the rarest sp songs i enjoy now.

Quote from: Phil Marlowebut i must admid that it is the rarest sp songs i enjoy now.

Then you are not for real. btw check out Set The Ray To Jerry. Great track!

I can't imagine anyone thinking SP is underrated... they got a LOT of not-always-deserved respect and worship during their time.

I like 'em, for the most part. I'm a very dilletantish SP listener, though. I really like what I've heard off of Adore and the song "Tonight, Tonight" the most out of all their stuff (of course, the Melies-inspired video piqued my cinephilia entirely apart from the music or the band themselves).

And I think it's very cool that Corgan pitched in for NewOrderGetReady. "Turn My Way" is basically a Sumner/Corgan duet, no?

I first got into SP through "Disarm." Any big melodramatic tragedy tune gets to me, especially if it has sad church-bell sounds. I'm not being facetious at all, either.

SIAMESE DREAM! One of the best rock albums!!!!!!  8)

Here's a revised list of my favorite SP songs:

1979
Try (alt)
Heavy Metal Machine (alt)
Glass and the Ghost Children
Blue Skies Bring Tears
Rhinoceros
Thirty-Three
Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
The Aeroplane Flies High
Today
Rocket
Spaceboy
The Tale of Dusty and Pistol Pete
Blank Page
Cherub Rock
Zero
Sparrow
Glass' Theme
Tonite, Tonite
Eye
Ava Adore
Plume
Pissant
Obscured
Thru the Eyes of Ruby
Luna
Soma
Tales of a Scorched Earth
Where Boys Fear to Tread
Stumbline
Starla (why did I leave this out?)
Here's to the Atom Bomb
Slow Dawn
Saturnine
Annie Dog

That should be pretty accurate for now.  Although I haven't heard any of The Aeroplane Flies High tracks.  Could someone at least burn me those CDs and send them to me?  Please.  Contact me if you want to.  I will pay you like twenty bucks.  Please.

Quote from: mogwaiBest b-side is 'The Last Song', best song on Mellon is 'Porcelina of the Vast Oceans'.

I think "Glynis" might be their best non-album track.

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And I think it's very cool that Corgan pitched in for NewOrderGetReady. "Turn My Way" is basically a Sumner/Corgan duet, no?

He loves New Order.  In fact, before they were SP, Billy's band had a drum machine and sounded a hell of a lot more like New Order.

Check out the debut Zwan album if you want more of this side of Corgan (I'd download though, if you're only a partial fan).  A handful of those new songs remind me of later-era New Order.

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Quote from: mogwaiBest b-side is 'The Last Song', best song on Mellon is 'Porcelina of the Vast Oceans'.

I think "Glynis" might be their best non-album track.

I have a friend who thinks it's their best track, period.

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And I think it's very cool that Corgan pitched in for NewOrderGetReady. "Turn My Way" is basically a Sumner/Corgan duet, no?

He loves New Order.  In fact, before they were SP, Billy's band had a drum machine and sounded a hell of a lot more like New Order.

Check out the debut Zwan album if you want more of this side of Corgan (I'd download though, if you're only a partial fan).  A handful of those new songs remind me of later-era New Order.

Most compelling recommendation yet.

smashing pumpkins are my favorite band of all time! even though some dont like it machina is my favorite its just so awesome and so original i love it. my first cd ever was siamease dream, good times.

god, i was so disappointed with MACHINA.  i didnt dig it at all.  everytime i tried to listen to it, it just seemed like smashing pumpkins trying to be something else.  it also seemed like one of them got a FUZZ petal and forgot to turn it off for the whole album.  has anybody heard the song "Once In A While".  its a b-side from the Adore era.  its a quiet little piano song, but its really pretty.

that gangster rap album james iha made was great

I am resurrecting this b/c slog started one that got locked......which led me here. I am a huge SP fan so I thought I'd drop my dime about something severely overlooked.

How can anyone talk about their best SP albums and not even mention Gish? Gish and Siamese Dream are easily HIS best. Melon Collie could have been cut down to a single CD and Machina was a good one to leave us with. I d/l'd Machina II but really haven't litened to it. Adore didn't work IMO b/c it was w/o Chamberlin, who Billy knew was an integral part of the band. One of the hardest working, rhythym driving drummers around today. A drum machine cannot replace JC.

Siamese Dream was all Billy. Chamberlin played drums and Billy played all guitar, rythm, and bass with Butch Vig adding his special touches. Iha plays very few leads on maybe 3 songs tops. D'Arcy was non existent on the album.

If you haven't heard Gish, I suggest you get it. I think only one song, Rhinoceros, was mentioned in a best of song list. Every song is good except for Daydream, IMO.

Gish AMG link (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll)

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Stumbleine (Best song top play on guitar late, drunk, in front of a fire)

For me, Melon Collie is definitely their best album, no question. They so wonderfully make a whole world out of their music on it - you don't ever want to leave... Also, one of the most musically varied albums of all time.

Absolutely correct

Sorry, i know this was posted months ago, but it's new to me...siamese dreams is their best album.  that's that.

I liked their Christmastime song a lot

There was a time when all I listened to was Smashing Pumpkins, good times, good times.

My boyfriend told me that smashing means "awesome" in British and pumpkins is referring to breasts. So, is their name, in American terminology, really Awesome Boobs? It makes sense to me, but I was just wondering...

The Pumpkins rocked!  Billy Corgan is the man... what else is there to say?  Sure, he's an egotistical asshole, but look at the music he's made over the years?  If making music like that takes being an asshole, then more power to him!  Jimmy is the greatest drummer alive... period.  James will suck with A Perfect Circle (he just doesn't fit in... he's a laid-back rocker, not a heavy metal machine!).  D'Arcy... well, what the hell happened to her?  She was just riding the Pumpkin gravy train for as long as she could... she's an aweful bassist though... I play bass myself, so I can tell when someone rocks or sucks...

Siamese Dream is one of the greatest rock albums in history!  That an Violator by Depeche Mode... ok, fine... i'm a bit biased, but its true.  I thought Machina wasn't the exit the band should have had... Machina just didn't follow anything they did before... it was like a whole new direction... and what the hell was Billy thinking during their live shows for the Machina tour?  It was like some outer space Matrix type thing... hrm... but Adore is my favorite album... sure, not as strong as SD or even Machina, but it was just such a sweet and emotional album... great album overall.

Can't wait for the "solo project" (note: arguably, every Billy Corgan band has been a solo project of sorts for him.. this one is just officially a solo project).

hey teddy, what about "perfect" ? that's a great one.

If you are an SP fan and don't have their music video DVD, go get it now! Great extras and many commentary options. It contains 19 videos (with 2 live and An Ode To No One kicks ass!), a short film, and an untitled piece.

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Quote from: freakerdudeIf you are an SP fan and don't have their music video DVD, go get it now! Great extras and many commentary options. It contains 19 videos (with 2 live and An Ode To No One kicks ass!), a short film, and an untitled piece.

Thanks for the plug!  Hehe... actually, if you can find it, get Viewphoria... an excellent video!