fav pta character?

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brockly

#15
May 03, 2003, 10:00:19 PM
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Quote from: MacGuffinAll I'll say is: why are all the female characters placed in the 'other' catagory? Even a frog gets his own separate choice
yeah, crap selection.

took me too long to decide this: Jim Kurring.

yeah, sorry bout their being no ladies. i just added all my favourite characters, and i didn't really think about that. come to think of it claudia and amber should have definatly been in their! anyone know how to edit the damn thing?

moonshiner

#16
May 05, 2003, 10:12:38 PM
Frank T.J Mackey is the character that sealed the deal for me, to be cliche, hit home....[/u]
the rumble of the train trails off to infinity, a place where no one goes anymore

JC, no not that one

i/o

#17
May 05, 2003, 11:27:04 PM
I think Sidney has the most understated depth. But perhaps that's just Baker hall doing what he does best. The scene where Hoffman beats him in craps is fantastic. The way that they play those two completely characters was fantastic.
The same thing goes for Hoffman in Punch Drunk. The part when Sandler confronts Hoffman is deffinetly the best scene in the movie.
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Tiff

#18
May 11, 2003, 07:16:34 PM
Quote from: fultyYou need a lady who will go to the drug store.

Shame on you.

damn straight, mah dawg!
"Shut the fuck up!"

chainsmoking insomniac

#19
May 12, 2003, 08:44:07 AM
Quote from: i/oI think Sidney has the most understated depth. But perhaps that's just Baker hall doing what he does best. The scene where Hoffman beats him in craps is fantastic. The way that they play those two completely characters was fantastic.
The same thing goes for Hoffman in Punch Drunk. The part when Sandler confronts Hoffman is deffinetly the best scene in the movie.

Ah, finally someone who gets it.  Sydney does have the most depth which makes him (for me anyway) PTA's best character!!!!!!!!  :P
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godardian

#20
May 12, 2003, 10:32:45 AM
I 100% agree that it's completely ridiculous to leave out all the female characters... I voted "other," but I'd say Amber Waves or Linda Partridge.

The only way I would ever vote for Dirk Diggler as my favorite character is if it were a gay thing, since he's a far cry from the most interesting character in Boogie Nights, in my opinion. Note to the Taxi Driver with the complex: Protesting too much always raises suspicion.

Jeez, none of the Hoffman characters were on the ballot, either... totally unforgivable.

To sum up:

-Julianne Moore (and all the other female players) and Phil Hoffman and their characters are getting extremely short shrift here.

-A board devoted to PTA is the last place I'd expect to find the tinges of sexism and homophobia (things which, going by his films, he's unequivocally against) I'm seeing so far...
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.

SoNowThen

#21
May 12, 2003, 10:46:30 AM
Hey, freedon of speech (and thought) works both ways. I'm allowed to be a bigot if I so choose... and I do.


Sexism is fun, too.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

SoNowThen

#22
May 12, 2003, 10:49:00 AM
Oh, and Jim Kurring is my fav character
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

godardian

#23
May 12, 2003, 11:31:23 AM
Quote from: SoNowThenHey, freedon of speech (and thought) works both ways. I'm allowed to be a bigot if I so choose... and I do.


Sexism is fun, too.

I agree, but it's just a little surprising to see it flourishing in a discussion of a director with such a nuanced yet generally very anti-sexist world view.

People can say what they want, though. I never told anyone to shut up, and I wouldn't expect them to. I hate P.C., but I can only hate P.C. because I never avoid expressing my own opinions, and I can stand up for them.

And I agree that all kinds of bigotry and prejudice can be funny... but when it comes to exluding all the female characters (which I realize was apparently a thoughtless error and nothing intentional), I think it's only fair to point out what a glaring gaffe that is. It's not really amusing sexism the way, say, a Cramps album is. Or The View.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

Stay informed on protecting your freedom of speech and civil rights.

SoNowThen

#24
May 12, 2003, 11:39:07 AM
Ha. Too true.

Yeah, Claudia should've been on that list.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Vile5

#25
May 13, 2003, 10:43:58 AM
Hi, I'm new and love PTA movies
My favorite character is Donnie Smith and the scene in the bar is just GREAT!!

Bye

VILE5
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USTopGun47

#26
May 17, 2003, 04:44:28 PM
Donnie Smith is greatttt.  However I must go with Dirk.  Donnie just can't quite kick it like Dirk's Ka-Ra-Ta.
I'm somebody now, Harry. Everybody likes me. Soon, millions of people will see me and they'll all like me. I'll tell them about you, and your father, how good he was to us. Remember? It's a reason to get up in the morning. It's a reason to lose weight, to fit in the red dress. It's a reason to smile. It makes tomorrow all right. What have I got Harry, hm? Why should I even make the bed, or wash the dishes? I do them, but why should I? I'm alone. Your father's gone, you're gone. I got no one to care for. What have I got, Harry? I'm lonely. I'm old.

dufresne

#27
May 18, 2003, 12:57:26 PM
Sydney
There are shadows in life, baby.
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