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He's made a bunch of amazing films. Which do you think is the best Scorsese picture of all time?

taxi driver. no contest

It's tight between Goodfellas and Taxi Driver, but I think Taxi Driver

taxi driver rules but i gotta say goodfellas

Raging Bull and Taxi Driver. Goodfellas is one of the most overrated movies of all time. (before you hurt me, let me see the movie again and I'll try to change my mind)

No matter how dull these poll threads always turn out to be, I cant keep myself from participating.

Taxi Driver

Quote from: Duck SauceNo matter how dull these poll threads always turn out to be, I cant keep myself from participating.

Most Revealing Duck Sauce Comment Ever.

Quote from: Duck SauceNo matter how dull these poll threads always turn out to be, I cant keep myself from participating.

lets make this one fun and interesting then.

ahem... EVERYONE WITH THE WORD "DUCK" IN THEIR NAME IS A MORON!

Very clever. I didnt take Insult 101 so heres my try.

ahem... Everybody from Montreal is also a Moron (2 birds with 1 stone).

Now let us never ever speak of this again.

QuoteEVERYONE WITH THE WORD "DUCK" IN THEIR NAME IS A MORON!

Pheww, I'm in the clear. How's bout you Duck Sauce...Oh...Sorry

Quote from: Duck SauceI didnt take Insult 101 so heres my try.
ahem... Everybody from Montreal is also a Moron (2 birds with 1 stone).

oh please. if youd have bothered taking Insult 101, you wouldve learned that "everybody from montreal is also a moron" is an exception in the rules of insult and cannot be used following an insult containing an animal.

Quote from: cecil b. demented...and cannot be used following an insult containing an animal.

YOU MEAN A VERB!!  :x

no an animal. i used "duck" in my insult. so according to the rules, you cant use the montreal insult. sigh. am i the only one with an education here?

mickey fucking mouse could throw better shit than this.

had to say it.

~rougerum

Quote from: cecil b. dementedno an animal. i used "duck" in my insult. so according to the rules, you cant use the montreal insult. sigh. am i the only one with an education here?

duck is a verb

Quote from: The Gold Trumpetmickey fucking mouse could throw better shit than this.

had to say it.

~rougerum

Truer words have never been spoken

Quote from: cecil b. dementedno an animal. i used "duck" in my insult. so according to the rules, you cant use the montreal insult. sigh. am i the only one with an education here?

No, everyone knows about the animal / montreal provision. A lesser known rule is that anyone who is known to have used a muppets avatar must enthusiasticly take as many insults as the offended party deems necessary.

gentlemen, gentlemen, please. look at whats become of us. a simple thread about the best scorsese film has turned us against each other. this is supposed to be a place where ducks, sauce, duck sauce and montrealers can all run free to bitch about films. we all came here seeking refuge from the ignorant average movie-goers, and instead were turning against each other. LOOK AT WHAT WEVE BECOME!!

my god hes right. we all came here to fight our collective enemy, but instead, we fight ourselves.

Eh...I hate to say it...but Casino.  Casino is more of an enjoyable thing than goodfellas in style...goodfellas had the better story...but I judge movies on how many times i can watch them without losing anything...so casino.  Too embarassed to even vote on it...i voted for goodfellas.

Oh, it's getting interesting now. A tight fight between Goodfellas and Taxi Driver. I wonder which'll win.

Hopefully Scorsese and De Niro make some more movies soon. Is there some sort of rift going on between them?

Quote from: Duck SauceIs there some sort of rift going on between them?

no.

Raging Bull, Cape Fear, Goodfellas...but RB I prefer because of the (relative) size of the story.

Against that list, Gangs of NY looks weak.

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Against that list, Gangs of NY looks weak.

yet someone chose it

Quote from: Reccegentlemen, gentlemen, please. look at whats become of us. a simple thread about the best scorsese film has turned us against each other. this is supposed to be a place where ducks, sauce, duck sauce and montrealers can all run free to bitch about films. we all came here seeking refuge from the ignorant average movie-goers, and instead were turning against each other. LOOK AT WHAT WEVE BECOME!!

Amen. I can only imagine what Mr. Scorsese would think if he read this thread.

Quote from: cbrad4dAmen. I can only imagine what Mr. Scorsese would think if he read this thread.

:D

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Amen. I can only imagine what Mr. Scorsese would think if he read this thread.

"my fans are are a bunch of nuts"

Scorsese Receives Hasty Pudding Award

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While wearing a bra made of playing cards, director Martin Scorsese clutches his pudding pot as he his honored as Man of the Year by the Hasty Pudding Theatricals at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass., Thursday Feb. 13, 2003.

CAMBRIDGE, Mass. - Director Martin Scorsese was given a grammar lesson - and made to wear a curly blonde wig and red-sequined bra - on Friday when he was crowned Harvard's Hasty Pudding Man of the Year.

Scorsese received the honor at the opening night of "It's a Wonderful Afterlife," a production of the Hasty Pudding Theatricals, an undergraduate dramatic troupe.

"I kind of had inside information that I was going to get the prize tonight so I went along with everything," he said.

Scorsese stood on the stage with a blackboard with the words "You talking to me?" written on it, in reference to Robert DeNiro's famous line from the Scorsese-directed movie "Taxi Driver."

A Harvard student dressed as a staid schoolmarm made Scorsese repeat the grammatically correct phrase "To whom are you speaking?"

The city of Cambridge declared Thursday "Martin Scorsese Day" and two representatives of the mayor's office presented him a gold key to the city.

Scorsese's movies include "Taxi Driver," "New York, New York," "The Color of Money," "Cape Fear," "The Age of Innocence" and "Casino." His 1990 film, "GoodFellas," received six Academy Award nominations.

Scorsese has also received best director Oscar nominations for "Raging Bull" and "The Last Temptation of Christ."

The film "Gangs of New York," a social and political drama set in 19th-century New York, recently earned the director a Golden Globe and was nominated for 10 Oscars, including best director.

The Directors Guild of America is scheduled to honor Scorsese with its lifetime achievement award on March 1.

Actress Angelica Huston was crowned the Hasty Pudding Woman of the Year last week.

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The city of Cambridge declared Thursday "Martin Scorsese Day" and two representatives of the mayor's office presented him a gold key to the city.

Now there's a real holiday for schools and businesses to impose.  Instead we get Martin Luther King day.  What's he ever done?  Pssshh...

Scorsese's best film -- MEAN STREETS.  GoodFellas is great, but Mean Streets puts that film into perspective.  Mean Streets (celebrating its 30th year of existence) is Scorsese's most personal film, and it deals with his most important preoccupations -- Catholicism, sexual guilt, the Mafia, New York.  It is the first time he worked with De Niro.  This film represents the first true flowering of Scorsese's artistic genius.  Get the DVD, and study every frame and cut of this one.

Taxi Driver is a close second.  In fact, Mean Streets is my favorite film of all time, and Taxi Driver is my 2nd favorite of all time.

Going back to Mean Streets -- the ensemble acting by the four main principals (De Niro, Keitel, Richard Romanus, David Proval) is simply the best I've ever seen in any film.  These guys seem like they've known each other all their lives, they seem like they all grew up together in the same tight-knit neighborhood.

The camera work, the lighting, the slow-motion, the editing, the use of exisiting music -- Mean Streets is a must-see.

Then why didn't you vote for it?

Quote from: MacGuffinThen why didn't you vote for it?

How do you vote?  

Why isn't Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore on the poll?  That's one of Scorsese's best films, and it won a Best Actress Oscar for Ellen Burstyn.

i think the poll only ran for a week or so

Just checked and it ran for 7 days. I hope Reece doesn't mind editing the post to leave it open poll.

Quote from: MacGuffinJust checked and it ran for 7 days. I hope Reece doesn't mind editing the post to leave it open poll.

I would, but I'm not exactly sure how to edit a topic. Can anyone talk me through it?

As for "Alice doesn't live here anymore", I was trying to sift through all the documentaries and tv miniseries he's done trying to post only his feature length films. I was bound to miss a few. I can add it if you guys want.

in your posts, on the upper-right corner, next to "quote" is "edit."

It's been taken care of.

mac to the rescue

its pretty cool that someone voted for bringing out the dead

its insane no one voted for mean streets, one of his four masterpieces.

~rougerum

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As for "Alice doesn't live here anymore", I was trying to sift through all the documentaries and tv miniseries he's done trying to post only his feature length films. I was bound to miss a few. I can add it if you guys want.

Scorsese has never directed anything for TV.  Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore spawned a sitcom called Alice, which Scorsese had nothing to do with.

Quote from: soixanteScorsese has never directed anything for TV.

I have the laser of the episode that Scorsese did for Spielberg's TV show "Amazing Stories" entitled "Mirror, Mirror" in which a horror director's monster creations come to life to haunt him.

scorsese did this funny cameo on 'curb your enthusiasm' last season.

I ain't voting til I've seen GONY (it looks incredible, I envy all who have seen it).
I love all the Scorcese films that I've seen (though the scene at the end of 'Casino' where Pesci and his brother get beaten to a bloody mess in the fields nearly traumatised me).
I have yet to see 'Kundun' (but I hear I'm not missing much).

What about "The Last Waltz"? I've heard it should be one of the best documentaries ever made.

...have anyone seen it?

Quote from: oakmanc234I have yet to see 'Kundun' (but I hear I'm not missing much).

You heard wrong. The cinematography and score alone are worth watching.

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Quote from: oakmanc234I have yet to see 'Kundun' (but I hear I'm not missing much).

You heard wrong. The cinematography and score alone are worth watching.

I saw it a while ago and I swear I don't remember a word that was said in that movie or anything about the plot. Very boring. Or maybe I just wasn't paying attention cause I think my Scorsese grudge was at a high point.

Two people voted for Casino...in reality, a good movie, interesting if you get the chance to see it on USA...but, it seems like they were deciding between Goodfellas and Casino, as if Taxi Driver didn't exist, I love everything about that movie.

Quote from: oakmanc234I have yet to see 'Kundun' (but I hear I'm not missing much).

Kundun is a wonderful film! Okay, if you are expecting the classic Scorsese 'as far as I can remember I always wanted to be a gangster- are you talking to me?' -cue Jumpin Jack Flash- cut to fast dolly in on Henry doing coke- kind of movie you might be disappointed. It's not that kind of a movie. Mac is right, the visuals and score are amazing! (shot by Roger Deakins- one of the best DPs working today, score by Philip Glass)

Can't choose one....maybe Goodfellas...maybe Raging Bull...maybe Cape Fear...

Sadly enough, I've only seen Casino (which rocks), Goodfellas (which also rocks), and Gangs of New York (which wasn't half bad). I think I saw Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and liked it. Was that with Ellen Burstyn?

Quote from: bonanzatazWas that with Ellen Burstyn?

the one and only

anybody who bashes bringing out the dead here needs a good bashing themselves.  luckily none of youse have done so and
thus this makes a happy sphinx
........................................thinks

Quote from: sphinxanybody who bashes bringing out the dead here needs a good bashing themselves.  luckily none of youse have done so and
thus this makes a happy sphinx
........................................thinks

Quote from: cecil b. dementedits pretty cool that someone voted for bringing out the dead

HEEEEEEEEE, sphinx must think im, like, soooo cool right now

Though Taxi Driver is in my top five favorite films of all time i have to give a shout out to Mean Streets which is just such an amazing film especially for scorsese's use of music in the film.

This poll has served to remind me how many good films I haven't seen.  Until I see the rest, Casino.  Cranium in a vice, that's good stuff.

Quote from: av8raaronThis poll has served to remind me how many good films I haven't seen.  Until I see the rest, Casino.  Cranium in a vice, that's good stuff.

I'll do my best to keep bringing you quality polls.

Quote from: Phil MarloweWhat about "The Last Waltz"? ...have anyone seen it?

I will now as a product of overwhelming boredom, redirect myself.

http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=213&start=4

yippee.

Quote from: sphinxanybody who bashes bringing out the dead here needs a good bashing themselves.  luckily none of youse have done so and
thus this makes a happy sphinx

Actually, I love that movie. I also love Raging Bull and Taxi Driver.

...but you HATE Goodfellas....

I just came back from seeing 'Gangs' for the first time tonight and....WOW. I thought it was f***ing brilliant. I dont get alot of the negativity towards this film (there's been alot of acclaim but a fair share of criticism). I wasn't expecting a whole lot and walked out proud that I'd seen this movie. DiCaprio was solid. Day Lewis was amazing. His performance didn't seem like acting...but being possessed completely. He looked like he could murder his co-stars right there on the spot.
Such a masterful piece of work. Flawed like hell, but a flawed masterpiece is still a masterpiece.

It's certainly my favourite Scorcese flick and I dont feel the slightest bit of regret saying that.

But thats just me.

Never seen a Scorsese movie i didn't like...this is something I can't say for too many filmmakers. Gangs is the lone disappointment really, but it wasn't bad by any means. I love all the rest.

from best to most mediocre...

1. taxi driver
2. goodfellas
3. raging bull
4. mean streets
5. the color of money
6. alice doesn't live here anymore
7. gangs of new york

I have to make a special mention to Scorsese's "Life Lessons" segment in "New York Stories." I would put that in the top five of my picks. At around 45 minutes, it is actually better than a lot of films that clock in at twice that length, and it's easily one of Nick Nolte's best performances. Beautiful camerawork. An amazing script by Richard Price. Great use of music, especially Procol Harum's songs.

Life Lessons is an overlooked gem.  It needs to be put on DVD soon.  Plus, there are some cool iris shots that probably inspired similar shots in PDL (iris shot of Arquette in an airport -- similar to Sandler and Watson walking hand in hand at airport in PDL).  Nolte is fantastic -- just shows what happens when he gets a great script.  This film also does something very hard -- it gets inside the creative process, in this case an abstract painter.  It shows the artistic struggle to put paint on canvas, just as Adaptation shows the struggle to write a script.  Life Lessons ain't my favorite Scorsese film, but it's my favorite Scorsese mini-film.

Quote from: soixanteLife Lessons is an overlooked gem.  It needs to be put on DVD soon.

April 8th.

Thanks for the heads up -- I've been waiting for this one to come to DVD forever.

Taxi Driver, although I don't think he's made a bad film.

Taxi driver is the best but Raging bull is a close seconed, and Bringing out the dead was superb, but once again he got beat out of an oscar for American beauty. And now for The Pianist. Man he just cant catch a break. Though both films that beat him are excellent. I still think Raging bull is way better than Ordinary People. Damn the Oscars.

Scorsese's "Taxi Driver" was, for my money, the best film of the 70's. His "Raging Bull" was by far the best of the 80's. and "Goodfellas" was the best film of the 90's. However I don't feel "Gangs of New York" will be the best film of the 00's. Perhaps that'll go to "The Aviator" or "Dino", if he ever makes it.

Sadly, I think we could all call the 'Dino' project dead and buried.
Especially since the new Sammy Davis Jr. bio-pic (with Eddie Griffin as the man) IS to be made in the next year or so. So sad. I mean, how perfect a Scorcese project would 'Dino' have been.........I won't get into it again.

he wa also going to make the richard pryor story with damon wayans but that didnt happen

Probably because Damon Wayans would've been awful. I would prefer Will Smith over any Wayans on any day of the week.

But its a real shame about Dino, and its also a real shame that Scorese is still Oscar-less. However, I keep telling everybody that I think this year Scorsese felt good about the winner. As opposed to losing to first time directors who haven't paid their dues as filmmakers, Polanski is somebody Scorsese thinks very highly of.. and since this was like Polanski's "Schindler's List", I'm happy for Scorsese this year.

definatly taxi driver. goodfellas comes in second.

Did everybody forget The Last Waltz?!  :cry:

True true. Such a fucking brilliant movie!!

I went with Goodfellas. Great movie.

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I don't think Scorsese has made a "bad" film yet (excluding Corman quickie Boxcar Bertha, which even manages to have a couple moments). There aren't many filmmakers you can honestly say that about, and it's amazing how many of his great films are masterpieces of some order or another.

I rank 'em...

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GRADE, A-
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GRADE, A-
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GRADE, B+
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GRADE, B+
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GRADE, B
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GRADE, B
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GRADE, B
18. American Boy: A Profile of Steven Prince[/b][/color][/size]
GRADE, B
19. "Life Lessons"[/b][/color] segment of New York Stories
GRADE, B-
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GRADE, B-
21. Boxcar Bertha[/b][/color][/size]
GRADE, C-


I think GoodFellas, Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are his masterpieces among masterpieces. After Hours and The King of Comedy are his two best but least-seen great works. Sadly The Last Temptation of Christ is more known for being "controversial" than appreciated as the great film that it is. I find The Age of Innocence, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Kundun are largely forgotten because they don't fit neatly into the general perception of Scorsese's canon. The Last Waltz is simply the greatest conecert film ever made. Mean Streets has been a bit eclipsed by his latter work, but it is a remarkable film, especially for that early in a career. Casino is sometimes offhandedly dismissed as a GoodFellas retread, which it most certainly is not. New York, New York is much, much better than it's reputation for me, especially since I have the longer "director's cut" on LaserDisc: a great work waiting to be rediscovered. Cape Fear is so much goddamn fun, it's Marty's Touch of Evil if you will. The Color of Money is his least ambitious and ordinary movie, but that being said his stylistic touches are brilliant, the performances are a treat, and even the "least" of Scorsese's work in my book is beter than most filmmakers' "best".


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Taxi Driver for me, though I can't think of one Scorsese film I've really, truly hated. Bringing Out the Dead is probably my least favorite.

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I don't think Scorsese has made a "bad" film yet (excluding Corman quickie Boxcar Bertha, which even manages to have a couple moments). There aren't many filmmakers you can honestly say that about, and it's amazing how many of his great films are masterpieces of some order or another.

I rank 'em...


I think GoodFellas, Taxi Driver and Raging Bull are his masterpieces among masterpieces. After Hours and The King of Comedy are his two best but least-seen great works. Sadly The Last Temptation of Christ is more known for being "controversial" than appreciated as the great film that it is. I find The Age of Innocence, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore and Kundun are largely forgotten because they don't fit neatly into the general perception of Scorsese's canon. The Last Waltz is simply the greatest conecert film ever made. Mean Streets has been a bit eclipsed by his latter work, but it is a remarkable film, especially for that early in a career. Casino is sometimes offhandedly dismissed as a GoodFellas retread, which it most certainly is not. New York, New York is much, much better than it's reputation for me, especially since I have the longer "director's cut" on LaserDisc: a great work waiting to be rediscovered. Cape Fear is so much goddamn fun, it's Marty's Touch of Evil if you will. The Color of Money is his least ambitious and ordinary movie, but that being said his stylistic touches are brilliant, the performances are a treat, and even the "least" of Scorsese's work in my book is beter than most filmmakers' "best".


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Don't forget A Personal Journey Through American Cinema, which I think is so valuable, even beyond some of his own features.

i'm looking at the list and it's embarrassing how little of this guy's work i've seen. i love casino and goodfellas and i remember liking alice doesn't live here, but those are the only one's i've seen. my mom loves him. we have a framed new york new york poster hanging up in the house.

1. goodfellas
2. taxi driver
3. raging bull
4. casino
5. bringing out the dead

although gangs of new york was disappointing, i have yet to see a truly bad scorsese film.

Quote from: Phil MarloweWhat about "The Last Waltz"? I've heard it should be one of the best documentaries ever made.

...have anyone seen it?

An excellent, timely rock doc. but not really quite as outstanding a doc. as it may be cracked up to be.  It'll make you appreciate The Band, though, and contains great special appearances by Joni Mitchell, Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, and Eric Clapton, not to mention Marty Scorcese himself.  Good stuff.  Wouldn't hold a candle to his narrative films in this thread, though.

Quote from: Holden PikeThe Last Waltz is simply the greatest conecert film ever made.

I don't quite agree, but at the same time, I can't think of a better one.....

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Quote from: Holden PikeThe Last Waltz is simply the greatest conecert film ever made.

I don't quite agree, but at the same time, I can't think of a better one.....

There are those who would say Stop Making Sense. Or perhaps Gimme Shelter.

Not me, though. I haven't seen any of them. Nor Rattle and Hum (not a big U2 fan, anyways, though).

No mention of Woodstock? Scorsese was an assistant director and editor on it.

holden your list is screwy

age is better then mean streets and color of money ?

and why is color of money so low because he had big stars in it

wrong

i dunno if i could list my favs

well goodfellas is the best but color of money would be in the top few  

and kundon and age rounding out the bottom, bringing out the dead loses points because cage ruined it for me

raging bull raging bull raging bull

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There are those who would say Stop Making Sense. Or perhaps Gimme Shelter.

Not me, though. I haven't seen any of them. Nor Rattle and Hum (not a big U2 fan, anyways, though).

Tangent:  Would Truth or Dare count?

I would call myself a big U2 fan and I even felt Rattle and Hum was lackluster. It felt like an advertisement to the image U2 wanted to have at the time.

~rougerum

I think it's a struggle between "Raging Bull", "Taxi Driver", "GoodFellas" and "Casino".

Last Temptation of Christ it is then.

pleasure polling with u.

Goodfellas, one of the best movies i've watched in my life, great movie i like Taxi Driver too but i loved Goodfellas since the first scene...

Cinephile, I so agree.  I think Scorsese owns the best of the last three decades (TD, RB, and Goodfellas).  I found Gangs to be a rousing disappointment.  It felt like a Scorsese movie in the first scene, but then just got slowly watered down into something that at times looks like it could have been directed by well... anyone.  Yeah, Lewis is great, but it just feels like the whole production was just too big and messy and there was a lot of compromise.  And don't get me started on that bullshit 'dramatic jeopardy' Diaz was caught up in at the end.  Such garbage.  I'm still crossing my fingers and hoping he's got a great one left in him.

But that's besides the point.  Give me Raging Bull any day of the week and twice on Sunday.  One of the saddest moments in recent memory was having to sell my Criterion LD w/ commentary.  Where's a pimp dvd?

And the Oscar business.  Hitchcock, Kubrick, Altman, Lynch and others never got it... so who really cares?  I mean Scorsese's nowhere in the league of Ron Howard, right?

Raging Bull vs. Goodfellas.

La Motta would pound any goodfella into the ground. But Pesci would put up a good fight.

Happy 61 Marty!

By the way, Taxi Driver was your best film!

The Color of Money is as good a character portrait as Raging Bull or Taxi Driver. One of his best films.

Quote from: DerekThe Color of Money is as good a character portrait as Raging Bull or Taxi Driver. One of his best films.

That's praising the Colour of Money WAY too much.

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Quote from: DerekThe Color of Money is as good a character portrait as Raging Bull or Taxi Driver. One of his best films.

That's praising the Colour of Money WAY too much.

The Color of Money just isn't as celebrated as those two. It may have some 80's fromage dripping from it, it is however a product of its time and just as profound as the former two. It may be more difficult for younger viewers to identify with a man approaching his later years in life than guys in their 20' s & 30' s dealing with their angst.  I think you're wrong.

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Quote from: DerekThe Color of Money is as good a character portrait as Raging Bull or Taxi Driver. One of his best films.

That's praising the Colour of Money WAY too much.

The Color of Money just isn't as celebrated as those two. It may have some 80's fromage dripping from it, it is however a product of its time and just as profound as the former two. It may be more difficult for younger viewers to identify with a man approaching his later years in life than guys in their 20' s & 30' s dealing with their angst.  I think you're wrong.

I don't think The Color Of Money is as profound as Taxi Driver or Raging Bull (and not a better movie than any of those), but is a very good movie on its own.

i really like King of Comedy.......it's not the most influential, etc....but i really love the colors, sound design, DeNiro's performance.....and it's just really funny to me.......and it's hard to believe that there is a Scorsese film that doesn't have more than 3 or so cuss words.......i really love that shot of DeNiro in front of the b&w photo of a crowd laughing......the camera slowly pulls back and frames the scene in a hallway......i never really thought about it, but i'm wondering where this is supposed to be? surely this is not his basement......i guess Scorsese just thought it looked cool (which it does)

King of Comedy is somewhat underrated.  De Niro gives a fearless performance.  It's one thing to play a psycho.  It's another to play a twerp.  It takes cajones to play such an obsessed, unsympathetic dweeb without ever once winking at the audience or trying to take the edge off of the creepiness.

Jerry Lewis was great as well.  He went places I've never seen him go as an actor.