2046

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pete

#15
October 04, 2004, 09:41:40 AM
I don't think there are any spoilers other than really vague references.  but maybe you wanna remain completely pure then maybe skip what I've written.

I couldn't even sneak in a mango slushy in there.  the lady made me eat it right there, and comforted me by saying that the preview is 15 minutes.  I had such a headache after that.  but Taiwanese mangoes are the best, I tells you.
the movie was really really good.  it has a few references to in the mood for love (I didn't pick up right away but there was this nerd girl next to me who kept on whispering "that's from in the mood for love" to herself--she also told me to shut up when I laughed at the trailer of that movie with deniro and rebecca stamos).  it had a lot of nabokov and woody allen in it actually--you know, the longing and the lust of a writer, who puts things into his fictional world.  there was a lot of nudity-free sex (Zhang Ziyi always pulls that kinda shit where you keep on seeing her back) that were really intense but none too steamy.  it really kept me in the main character's head and sealed me there, I haven't felt that way about a movie in a while.
the movie took quirks to a whole new level--that the quirks exhibited in the characters were almost characters and plots themselves.  some gestures were really heartbreaking.  this is by far the most detached and heartbreaking of all wong karwai movies.  also most focused.  it's relentless look at one man's love life, with either him or his voice dominating most of the screentime.  tony leung really is the loneliest man in the world.  boy he rocks.

it seemed like a different version from the one exhibited at cannes--all these things I read from earlier reviews and early cast and crew hype interviews were barely there--the sci-fi aspect of it.  there was actually barely any sci fi, it was mostly about the three women Tony Leung encountered.  some spectacular lines and heartbreaks though.  it also seemed more precise than wong karwai's other films--that the footages filmmed might've even been <gasp!> scripted.
it also reminded me a lot of the short stories by a Taiwanese novelist Bai Xian-Yung, who kinda elevated stories about escorts and bargirls to the level exhibited in 2046 today.  cinematography is a bit colder and more precise, not as spontaneous as happy together or chunking express, and not as lush as in the mood for love.
but man, there should be more CGI-assisted love stories like this and Eternal Sunshine.
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

rustinglass

#16
October 16, 2004, 06:53:39 PM
Just came back from it. Very good, very beautiful.
I have to see it again when it comes out because i didn't understand it all. I'm too hungry and tired right now to write about it.
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ElPandaRoyal

#17
October 17, 2004, 05:51:45 AM
Oh yeah. This is the most beautiful movie of the year. And maybe of any year. Damn, I saw it two days ago and I still can't write anything readable about the movie. There are some shots that will make you stare and fall in love with the screen. Believe me, it looks that good. It has some scenes that are a lot like IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE, and the scenes about 2046 are some of the most poetic I can remember. And then there is this one shot near the end, with a woman/robot looking through the window of a train...  :-D
Si

SoNowThen

#18
October 30, 2004, 10:43:46 AM
Hmmm, I just came back from this at the London Film Festival. I may watch it a few more times and love it, but for now I was just bitterly bored for 2 straight hours (minus the 25 minutes I fell asleep in the middle of the movie). I dunno...

The National Film Theatre here just put on a WKW retrospective (minus Ashes Of Time). I have to say, Fallen Angels and In The Mood and CE are among my favs of all time, but his others just do nothing for me. 2046 had the references to Mood, and also to Days Of Being Wild (another movie I had trouble staying awake for). Ugh. I really wanted to love this, but I didn't even like the camerawork or the music or anything. Maybe I was just in the wrong frame of mind...
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Ghostboy

#19
October 30, 2004, 03:02:04 PM
Well, I'm convinced that, when I see 2046, I'll love it, but I do have a nagging fear that it may not thrill me (I've only been bored by one of his movies -- I, too, had trouble with Days Of Being Wild, but I'm hoping seeing it on the big screen this fall will help me appreciate it more).

UncleJoey

#20
November 11, 2004, 04:08:38 PM
Some pictures







To nobody's surprise, these look beautiful.
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#21
November 11, 2004, 10:22:51 PM
Oh my Christ.

I don't know if it's because of the pictures or GDITM's presence, or a combination of the two, but I just creamed my pants.

THRICE!
We often went to the cinema, the screen would light up and we would tremble, but also, increasingly often, Madeleine and I were disappointed. The images had dated, they jittered, and Marilyn Monroe had gotten terribly old. We were sad, this wasn't the film we had dreamed of, this wasn't the total film that we all carried around inside us, this film that we would have wanted to make, or, more secretly, no doubt, that we would have wanted to live.

Rudie Obias

#22
November 12, 2004, 12:29:47 AM
http://www.ocean-films.com/2046/videos2.htm

is the trailer, the subtitles are in french.  enjoy!
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ono

#23
November 12, 2004, 12:41:56 AM
It's so pretty.  It's so very pretty.  Basically, what pete said.
Quote from: petethere is no cinematographer more versatile than Christopher Doyle. I wish Connie Hall was still alive so I can say something like Chris Doyle kicks Connie Hall's ass without appearing blashemous.
I wish I knew how he did all of this.  And hopefully the substance will match the style.  Still no word on a US release?  IMDb doesn't say anything.

MacGuffin

#24
November 12, 2004, 12:49:42 AM
Quote from: wantautopia?Still no word on a US release?  IMDb doesn't say anything.

According to Coming Soon!:

2046 Release Date: TBA 2005
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SiliasRuby

#25
November 12, 2004, 01:49:06 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin

2046 Release Date: TBA 2005
Whooooo weeeee...I love it when they say TBA, it gets me really excited inside...No, but seriously, this film sounds fantastic.
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Rudie Obias

#26
November 12, 2004, 02:06:37 AM
\"a pair of eyes staring at you, projected on a large screen is what cinema is truly about.\" -volker schlöndorff

rustinglass

#27
November 12, 2004, 11:38:56 AM
some more:




"In Serbia a lot of people hate me because they want to westernise, not understanding that the western world is bipolar, with very good things and very bad things. Since they don't have experience of the west, they even believe that western shit is pie."
-Emir Kusturica

ono

#28
November 12, 2004, 12:18:38 PM
My eyes just had an orgasm.

hedwig

#29
November 13, 2004, 07:27:40 PM
Quote from: rudieobyou can buy the hong kong release on ebay

http://search.ebay.com/2046-wong-kar-wai_W0QQsokeywordredirectZ1QQfromZR8

FROM IMDB:


mtr_320 (Mon Oct 18 2004 03:17:08 )  Ignore this User | Report Abuse  
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Unless you dont mind a slogan of the dvd distributor keep appearing every five minutes or so across the picture, do not import the dvd that is available on ebay! I have never come across a dvd like this before, it says on ebay that it is the "official release" but i wonder now. Also the film is not anamorphic which is also pretty poor for a brand new release of such a big movie. Just warning you
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