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The Director's Chair => Paul Thomas Anderson => Topic started by: TheImaginator16 on March 06, 2014, 02:24:44 PM

Title: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: TheImaginator16 on March 06, 2014, 02:24:44 PM
I'm just thinking what PTA's 8th film could be. I know it's almost a year until Inherent Vice comes out, but a bit of speculation is always fun.
I personally would love to see some sort of sci fi horror from him. Of course a sci fi horror with all the quality and quirk of a normal PTA film. He hasn't done much fantastical far fetched stuff and I think he'd wonderfully suit it.
Another idea I had, although this is basically as far fetched and unlikely and crazy as ideas can get, I would love PTA to adapt the entire Bioshock series in one 6 hour film. A film that goes from the first Bioshock, to Infinite and then covers Burial At Sea as the last third. I think it would be VERY difficult to make into a coherent and watchable film but if done right could be amazing. PTA could handle the subtext, atmosphere, music and crazy characters very well. 
What would you guys like to see in his next film?
And, bonus question, what is your favourite of his films? Mine is The Master, followed by Magnolia right behind it.
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Post by: Axolotl on March 06, 2014, 02:51:08 PM
He'll write and direct an HBO miniseries.

It will be an adaptation of Against the Day.
He's been dropping references to the book both in The Master and in the press shit he did for it. It'll be the best thing ever and the apotheosis of the cable TV series/miniseries as the primary medium to tell expansive and literary visual narratives on.

And it will never happen.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Frederico Fellini on March 06, 2014, 03:53:10 PM
METAL GEAR SOLID movie adaptation, starring Matt Damon.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Drenk on March 08, 2014, 10:58:45 AM
Quote from: Axolotl on March 06, 2014, 02:51:08 PM
He'll write and direct an HBO miniseries.

It will be an adaptation of Against the Day.
He's been dropping references to the book both in The Master and in the press shit he did for it. It'll be the best thing ever and the apotheosis of the cable TV series/miniseries as the primary medium to tell expansive and literary visual narratives on.

And it will never happen.

No. It will be an adaption of Mason & Dixon/remake of The Master with Joaquin Phoenix (Dixon) and the ghost of PSH (Mason). It will be available in 70mm brain cells than you have to put under your eyes.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: N on March 10, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
PTA directing a bioshock adaptation?
Didn't think Bioshock needed an adaptation.

Pretty cool series on it's own, I'd like to see PTA do some more original stuff.

He should go to Japan and finance the completion of Dreaming Machine, then at the same time work on an amazing homage to japanese horror films everywhere.
Just saying, I wanna see Tokyo through PTA's eyes.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: polkablues on March 10, 2014, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Axolotl on March 06, 2014, 02:51:08 PM
He'll write and direct an HBO miniseries.

I could see HBO, after snorting a bunch of True Detective cocaine through a bunch of rolled-up Game of Thrones thousand-dollar bills, giving him a suitcase full of cash and free reign to do eight episodes of whatever he wanted. I can see it changing the way we think about television forever. I can see Pubrick being disappointed by the last episode. Let's make it happen.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Lottery on March 10, 2014, 06:32:03 PM
I think it's kinda exciting, we knew about Inherent Vice around the same time as The Master but there's little to no indication of what he'll do next.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on March 11, 2014, 01:18:17 AM
A Musical!

That or something that isn't a period piece...although he does 'em better than anyone else
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Lottery on March 11, 2014, 02:09:36 AM
Who thinks it will be another book?

Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: MacGuffin on March 11, 2014, 08:19:09 AM
Who thinks it'll be another kid?
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Drenk on March 11, 2014, 12:55:41 PM
Who thinks it'll be another handjob?
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Pubrick on March 11, 2014, 01:05:37 PM
Who thinks it'll be another thread by TheImaginator16?
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: TheImaginator16 on March 11, 2014, 03:58:16 PM
I think it will be a Punch-Drunk Love-esque story of discord vs harmony. An innocent user on XIXAX tries to find peace and harmony among the forum but, after making a few premature mistakes, the user is haunted by a certain pubey Mattress Man with comment after comment of disapproval. ;)
Doesn't that sound ripe for PTA brilliance? A harrowing and twisted yet life nicely fairy tale-like too, set in cyber space.

Just joking Pubrick. What would you actually want to see in his 8th film?  :yabbse-smiley:
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: TheImaginator16 on March 12, 2014, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: N on March 10, 2014, 05:47:06 PM
PTA directing a bioshock adaptation?
Didn't think Bioshock needed an adaptation.

Pretty cool series on it's own, I'd like to see PTA do some more original stuff.



I do agree that it's a very cool series on it's own and I too would like to see PTA do more original stuff. I would just love for him to adapt it.
I thought that Infinite was a game full of really interesting concepts and ideas but for me none of the execution lived up to the promise of the concepts and music and the idea of the story. After slight disappointment after playing it, I started thinking about the possibility of a film adaptation as I reckon it could work really well as a film. Same narrative, characters and music but just made to do the concepts more justice. And a film that would have less constant irritating gun fights ;) . That got me thinking that I'd love to see PTA do the film, and from then I just started to think why just Infinite when he could do the whole series?! Could turn it into this amazing 6 hour epic that spans time and space, whilst also correcting some of the failures of the game series. Personally the first Bioshock is my favourite game of all time but I would be the first to admit the last quarter of it wasn't as genius as the rest of the game. Maybe the film could improve this. This film, I think, would be amaaziiin. Exploring both civilizations and time periods and themes of Rapture and Columbia in the first two thirds of the film and then it all culminating in an adaptation of the "Burial at Sea" DLC that combines both. The story is full of enough false prophets and corrupt and greedy titans for a PTA film and the respective period piece settings with all the music and art and character is a perfect fit too! :D This is all just a dream though and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't ever happen. A man can dream though I suppose. If the adaptation never happened it would still be perfectly happy though. I would much prefer no adaptation than a really shit one.

Yeah! I too would love to see PTA's take on Japan and horror.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: N on March 12, 2014, 08:31:42 PM
I've only played the first two and only finished the first game.
I agree the ending was a let down, with the exception of the Andrew Ryan revelation which I thought was great for it's intensity and the golf club.

It's rare to see a game find an effective level of depth in it's storytelling. With that being said I thought the twist was objectively mediocre and could do with a third of the acclaim it gets. What I loved about the game most was it's depiction of the dystopian Rapture. With it's ubiquitous portal-esque propoganda stretching it's desperation to and beyond the point of irony.

This whole post would be better suited for another thread in another board but if you're into games and you haven't played Bastion (http://bastion.wikia.com/wiki/Bastion_Wiki), I highly recommend it.

If we do get a Bioshock movie it's far more likely to be a Paul W. S. Anderson thingy.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Pubrick on March 13, 2014, 10:32:43 AM
how about we stop just imagining (imaginating?) our dream adaptations, but in addition to that, which is worth nothing to anyone, we actually try to guess the kind of movie he'll make next, based on the trajectory of the films he's made before.

he is rather predictable, since he can't stop making the same movie over and over again. with the same ending, the same contracts at a desk, the same father/son drama, the same film every single time. just like kubrick, like scorsese, like lynch, like any director worth a damn.

Inherent Vice will be a turning point but not in the way we or even PTA was expecting. the death of PSH will be felt. apart from the prominent dedication he'll get at the end of IV, the real impact will be evident in whatever creative pursuit PTA undertakes next. his influence on PTA's output is on par if not exceeding that of altman, demme, his girlfriends, and his father. look at the way those figures have shaped his films without directly being involved with them.

PSH was someone that actively had a hand in his films. someone he trusted more times than anyone with his vision through the sheer number of times they worked together. we know that his relationship to his actors is nothing ordinary. he didn't just hire them to read the lines and hit their marks. he wanted something from them, and they were all too willing to give it to him -- better than that, they promised to find in themselves something beyond what PTA had imagined. they wanted to go the extra mile for him.

PSH was at the forefront of those who gave themselves to PTA's vision, he signed on to the master without even reading the script, he saved PDL by stepping into the villainous role when Sean Penn pussied out, hell he would've replaced the idiot who played Eli Sunday originally if he hadn't been 30 years too old and 30 kg too fat for the role.. still would've been better than Paul Dano. but i digress.. the way his actors give themselves is not just spiritually, emotionally, professionally, it's an adverb that is not in common usage because it only applies to the relationship an actor has with their director.

PTA, when he used to give a lot more interviews and do commentaries etc, used to describe his relationship with actors as "i'm just a fan".. he hires them and then he sits back and LOVES what they do.. what is a fan in this sense? he's not after their autograph, they're already giving their image to his film, he's not after a picture with them either for his instagram.. you see as peasants our understanding of the way directors relate to their actors is somewhat limited. what PTA loves to do is GIVE.. firstly he gives them amazing material to work with, then he gives them TRUST and FREEDOM, he allows them to show HIM something he couldn't have imagined. that's how Joaquin came up with Freddie's gait, remember? and from the recent scene we talked about in That Moment we know even little things like the clicking of PSH's pen to his mouth as Scotty J is something he didn't come up with but absorbed into his vision.

so by now, despite his greatest efforts to trick us otherwise, we can safely predict a lot of aspects of his films -- that's precisely the reason we go to them because they will have these amazing qualities that have been present in everything he's done. Inherent Vice is going to be a turning point. we can see from the entire production saga that all this movie is about is new casting announcements. that's funny but there's more to it than mundane blog fodder. without even reading the book we know it's going to have a huge cast.. while it may be driven by JP's PI character it's safe to predict he will encounter a whole slew of interesting characters. what is PTA doing with these people, how is he using them? why choose a story that has so many characters relative to his recent output?

IV feels like a hybrid of his single-character films, PDL-CMBB-TM, and the ensemble films he left behind.. the way to make this work will be for  JP's character to be a passive intruder to the lives of many vivid entities. all main characters are surrogates for PTA and side characters function as revelations, anxieties, fears, memories, loves, addictions, and myriad other things he has on his mind. IV will be his most generous film, it will make the most money, not least of which because it might well be hilarious but also he's once again hit upon a hot topic without meaning to - marijuana. the spirit of the 60s is flourishing once again on the east coast and through serendipitous alignment he finds himself in the centre of it. refer to his previous hits: sex in the late 90s clinton era, oil and greed in the bush era. That was not his point, but it didn't hurt his pocket.

now i think we can arrive at what PSH will do for his next film. he can't count on that most reliable extension of himself, even if he wanted to, even if he thought he had one more great role for PSH to play.. the time has passed. in some ways he has foreshadowed this event through the bittersweet farewell he gave the master. that may well be the most touching tribute to his friend, in his presence, in his film. but I think death will play a bigger role in the next film.. it took him 2 films to get over his father's passing, it took him just as many to tear himself away from altman, his only consistent loves remained California and PSH, with occasional affairs with various leading men and minimal visits to other locations.

his next film is his hardest to predict, but if we approach it with what we know about him (we should know more than anyone on the internets) we can probably take a good stab. i think he'll go back to the source, since he'll be reaching some kind of apogee with Inherent Vice. somewhere in california, Mumbles O Malley will make an appearance, and what he mumbles will blow everyone's mind: "Hoffbud".
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: TheImaginator16 on March 13, 2014, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: N on March 12, 2014, 08:31:42 PM


If we do get a Bioshock movie it's far more likely to be a Paul W. S. Anderson thingy.

Haha, and I'm pretty sure I would not like that to happen ;) I've heard Bastion is very good from friends. Been meaning to play it and now that you've mentioned it I might do it sooner rather than later! Thanks for the recommendation  :yabbse-smiley:

Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: wilder on March 13, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on March 13, 2014, 10:32:43 AM
hell he would've replaced the idiot who played Eli Sunday originally if he hadn't been 30 years too old and 30 kg too fat for the role.. still would've been better than Paul Dano.

I maintain that this should have happened, or should have been the plan from the onset. Still don't see a completely compelling reason why Eli's character had to be so young, and for me Dano's casting has been PT's only glaring misstep. PSH in the role of a hellfire preacher would have been fucking awesome, and a much more even match for DDL anyhow.
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Post by: TheImaginator16 on March 13, 2014, 04:46:19 PM
I actually really liked Paul Dano as Eli. He gives the role a certain squirmy-ness. Makes the character feel appropriately dislikeable. This made me sympathise with Plainview in an interesting way and view Eli as an annoying fly that needs to be swatted. I would have loved PSH in the role, but IMO the character would have seemed too wise and old and not irritating enough. To much of an equal to Daniel. I mean fuck knows what PSH would have brought to the role, but I still get the impression it wouldn't have felt right. With PSH as Eli, the film would feel more like a face off of titans between DDL and PSH, Daniel and Eli. With Dano in the role, it feels more like Daniel is the one titan. And I personally prefer that.

I also think one of the reasons Eli had to be so young is to  make Daniel be able to look down on him more. If they were the same age it would have been too equal. For me the film emphasises the character of Daniel massively and if Eli was older it would have felt like more of a face off of two characters rather than a study of one singular prominent one. The youth just made Eli seem more naive and unwise and thus more annoying in contrast to Daniels arguable "wisdom" and low expectations of people. I feel it kinda shows that this greed and ambition and thirst for more is kinda primordial and that what Eli stands for is less so.
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: Reel on March 13, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
You took the words right out of my mouth, imaginationman. I was thinking about the clash of the titans reference, like the frame couldn't contain those two. My eyes would be confused about who to watch, and it would seem like a fair fight between two grown men instead of the absolute rape that it is. In the end, paul probably didn't use him to spare his pasty ass from that texas sun. Anyways, PSH got to play like the best priest role ever opposite meryl streep the next year, so it evens out
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: TheImaginator16 on March 13, 2014, 05:12:59 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on March 13, 2014, 10:32:43 AM


Inherent Vice will be a turning point but not in the way we or even PTA was expecting. the death of PSH will be felt. apart from the prominent dedication he'll get at the end of IV, the real impact will be evident in whatever creative pursuit PTA undertakes next.

Never thought about this in that way. I think you're completely right, the death will be felt for sure. I think what he does next will be his most bitter sweet film.  An interesting thing about Inherent Vice is that it actually mentions heroin addicts quite frequently. Haven't finished the book yet so I don't know just how much of an opinion Pynchon puts on the subject. Considering how PSH dies, how Paul now feels and also edits the certain parts of the film that comment on drug use (soft and hard) could change as he takes on more of a mournful view on what the harder drugs do and such. I doubt we'll see him damning marijuana in the way the film is put together but the scenes with harder shit that will surely be shown...could for sure have been effected by PTA's mindset after PSH's death.

It's almost impossible to imagine where or when or what his next film will be about. But I can imagine a character who's circumstances slightly mirror those of PSH, extremely talented and adored, hard drug addiction. Similar to how Magnolia dealt with cancer with the Earl Partridge. Even if the 8th film or a character in it doesn't mirror PSH very much (most likely), I can still imagine the film to explore hard drug use and all the highs and lows its effects can have. With a mournful bittersweet tribute-y friendly tinge.

With all this said, I feel rather insensitive talking about PSH's death and PTA's reaction to it in such a casual and calculated way, as if I know anything about the relationship and minds of these two great men. 



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Post by: TheImaginator16 on March 13, 2014, 05:26:37 PM
Glad to, Reelist  :yabbse-smiley:

Quote from: Reelist on March 13, 2014, 05:01:00 PM
Anyways, PSH got to play like the best priest role ever opposite meryl streep the next year, so it evens out

Haha yes! And also not to mention he got the ULTIMATE religious leader role as Dodd in The Master.
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Post by: Pozer on March 13, 2014, 06:38:21 PM
Quote from: wilder on March 13, 2014, 03:38:26 PM
Quote from: Pubrick on March 13, 2014, 10:32:43 AM
hell he would've replaced the idiot who played Eli Sunday originally if he hadn't been 30 years too old and 30 kg too fat for the role.. still would've been better than Paul Dano.

I maintain that this should have happened, or should have been the plan from the onset. Still don't see a completely compelling reason why Eli's character had to be so young, and for me Dano's casting has been PT's only glaring misstep. PSH in the role of a hellfire preacher would have been fucking awesome, and a much more even match for DDL anyhow.

Hm. Not so sure the duality of these roles wouldve been the right match for DDL vs. PSH. Unless it was shaped much different. Plus his Master "false profit" preacher wouldve felt too samesies, therefore wouldnt have happened. There's something more stimulating about seeing this match uneven, seeing him punk this kid. "I broke you and I beat you" ... "Say it again sayitagainsayitagainsayitagain" ... "You're the aaaaaaafterbirth" ... "You sniveling ass, you booooy" wouldn't have rang the same. The only misstep was not doing a better job of clearing up that they were twins. The problem they were fixing with the other pussy actor bitching out was felt.   

Additionally, if this did happen and PSH went on with THE MASTER imagine how repetitive (and boring) these matches would've been. SANDLER/DAY-LEWIS/PHOENIX(sort've) VS. THE HOFF. Talk about TRULY making the same movie over and over.
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on March 13, 2014, 10:26:46 PM
Quotehow Paul now feels and also edits the certain parts of the film that comment on drug use (soft and hard) could change as he takes on more of a mournful view on what the harder drugs do and such

Considering the fact that they finished scoring the film only a few weeks later, I have to think the picture was already locked or very close to it at the time of PSH's death. I also kind of doubt PTA would go back and alter his work in such an obvious way, even if he had the time.

That said, PTA couldn't have been unaware that his friend was struggling for the past year or so, and that has to manifest itself in the film in some way, but who could possibly know how. During the PDL era, PTA and Jon Brion were both going through break-ups and Ted Demme died, but who could say what influence those things had on the finished film. He settled down with a comedy star and started having daughters during CMBB, by far the bleakest film of the bunch.

The truth is, none of us know what's been going on with the dude, not really. While PSH's passing is obviously a huge, devastating blow, and will more than likely resonate in the next film as Pubrick said, we have no idea what else has been going on in his head, or what else has been going on in his life, because he's kept his cards pretty close to his chest for over a decade. He barely does interviews, certainly no commentaries or That Moment style docs. He reveals himself through his works, which also stubbornly refuse to explain themselves; each picture has been more beguiling than the last.

In the interest of fun speculation, I'm gonna guess that the PDL/CMBB/Master era is over and that Inherent Vice will kick off a third epoch in PTA's career. My big question is, is his shit gonna start getting even weirder?
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Post by: Mel on March 14, 2014, 09:16:37 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if he does something similar to Scorsese: making "Hugo", so he can show his film to daughter. Oldest daughter of PTA soon will be 10, so this isn't farfetched. Pulling in disguised story of PSH inside children's film about fight between good and evil? This is the best speculation I could think of without resorting to fantasy league of possible adaptions.
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Post by: Drenk on March 14, 2014, 09:41:49 AM
I can't find the interview back but I'm sure his oldest daughter has seen The Master.
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Post by: Reel on March 14, 2014, 09:47:32 AM
she liked the part when everyone was naked. Maybe he'll do a Caligula type movie for her.
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Post by: Punch on March 14, 2014, 10:03:20 AM
He talked about doing a movie set in the 50s again dealing with Television, behind the scenes and something to do with his father i can't find the interview where he said it though, it was during promo for the master
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Post by: Fuzzy Dunlop on March 14, 2014, 10:43:33 AM
Quote from: Punch on March 14, 2014, 10:03:20 AM
He talked about doing a movie set in the 50s again dealing with Television, behind the scenes and something to do with his father i can't find the interview where he said it though, it was during promo for the master

"From time to time I've thought about making a film about that era of local TV and the kind of Wild West lawlessness and the things that could happen. When my dad was doing it, it wasn't national, it was local. And it felt like lunch time was drinking time and you could come back to work totally hammered."
http://badassdigest.com/2013/01/15/irresponsible-speculation-ptas-early-days-of-tv-movie/
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Post by: 03 on May 14, 2014, 10:01:15 PM
forgive me if someone thought of this before, but i just had an idea for a fun game.
i'll make a thread of it, if this post is original:
what would the best film or films that pta could remake?
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Post by: jenkins on May 14, 2014, 10:39:10 PM
Quote from: 03 on May 14, 2014, 10:01:15 PM
forgive me if someone thought of this before, but i just had an idea for a fun game.
i'll make a thread of it, if this post is original:
what would the best film or films that pta could remake?

i think that'd be a fun new topic

and i'm dtf lottery's 90s topic also

i'm so dtf today and tomorrow

well except for a little bit, because i'm about to go watch dead ringers. to be on topic here, and for the future topic, i'll say it'd be real darn interesting if pta remade dead ringers, and i'm only saying that to pretend i'm still on topic. k
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Post by: Lottery on May 14, 2014, 10:53:24 PM
Slaughterhouse 5, Catch 22.

Don't need to be remakes really.
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Post by: 03 on May 14, 2014, 11:00:47 PM
yeah i know, i just mean speculate what would be the most fun to see him redo.
i got more later but lets start out with the obvious:

network would be the most fun, i think, probaly also most obvs along with short cuts
another less obvious altman would be fun, like california split, or something super weird like dr t and the women.
and how about something recent like the royal tenenbaums, wouldn't that be crazy as hell?
imagine pta's THE WRESTLER. mind blown no?

come on i got the ball rolling in an extreme way, go dogs go!
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Post by: Lottery on May 14, 2014, 11:42:39 PM
I'm sticking with him doing Vonnegut at some point. I think it would work. And it would be fun.

Or he could do a film for a decade he hasn't covered. I always thought a film which summarises the whole pychedelic rock movement from the mid 60s to to about 1969 would be cool. In no way a biopic but filled with drugs, maharishis, big old recording studios, Fender stratocasters, screaming girls, Leslie speakers, messed up geniuses, failed masterpieces, trippy nightmares etc. Once again, not a biopic but a 'comprehensive snapshot' done in an intimate manner. IV will be 1970, but it's based on the dying vibes of the 60s.
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Post by: Mel on May 15, 2014, 05:52:53 AM
Quote from: 03 on May 14, 2014, 10:01:15 PM
what would the best film or films that pta could remake?

I don't think that good films need to be remade at all. Moreover bad films can be remade into something significant. I'm probably not the only one, who would like to see PTA making genre film like horror of sci-fi.

While not trying to go "my dream adaptation" route, I can think of "Brave New World". Huxley's work was adopted two times for television, end result: two bad films. It could be interesting to see some topics like sex portrayed in mass consumption way. It isn't too heavy on technology at the same time.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on May 15, 2014, 04:38:46 PM
Quote from: 03 on May 14, 2014, 11:00:47 PM

imagine pta's THE WRESTLER. mind blown no?



I think PTA's The Wrestler would just end up being The Wrestler. I honestly don't think it could have been done better.
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Post by: SailorOfTheSeas on June 12, 2014, 02:42:11 PM
I've noticed, PTA has been building a sense of development in his films, when looked at in order of time. TWBB (1880's-1920's), The Master (1950's), IV (1970's), BN (1970's-1980's), Hard Eight, Magnolia (1990's), PDL (2000's). For example, the role of women. In TWBB, there are no prominent female characters other than, kinda, H.W's wife. Then in The Master the role they play is increased, but still never fully stable or achieved, like the sandwoman. Then in Inherent Vice and Boogie Nights the role is increased even more, making their existence even more important and vital to the characters and to the story. Hard Eight and Magnolia both then each end with a relationship between a man and a woman forming. Then finally with PDL, it kinda concludes with true love being reached between two equals.

The same could be said about the introduction of different races. In TWBB everyone is white, The Master has a few characters of different ethnicity. Inherent Vice deals with the problem of racism towards the second half of the 20th century etc. Then you can see for yourself how that all develops in Boogie Nights, Hard Eight, Magnolia and PDL. What I'm saying is that PTA has built a proper sense of development in terms of time in his filmography. There are loads more examples, I only mentioned two kinda weak ones, but I'm sure u get the picture.

What I'm wondering is, what part of it will he choose to expand in his 8th film. Inherent Vice it seems will bridge The Master (early 50's) into Boogie Nights (begins late 70's). The film of his that's most in the future is PDL, so maybe he could do a film further along time, could be present day or some crazy sci fi. Or maybe pre-TWBB, some historical or biblical epic or somethin. Like will he do another film to bridge, like maybe something in the late 80's, or will he work to extend into the past or future...

What can u most see him doing? 

I would love to see him go somewhere mad into the future, as TWBB works pretty perfectly as the "beginning" to the timeline.
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on June 18, 2014, 11:29:56 PM
Who's ready for a depression-era musical???
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Post by: mogwai on June 19, 2014, 09:48:10 AM
Quote from: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on June 18, 2014, 11:29:56 PM
Who's ready for a depression-era musical???

Wouldn't that be "There will be blood 2 - The Milkshake Blues"?
Title: Re: What could PTA's 8th film be? Fun speculation.
Post by: MacGuffin on June 19, 2014, 08:16:12 PM
There Will Be Boogie Woogie.
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Post by: SailorOfTheSeas on June 21, 2014, 05:40:07 AM
PTA could make "Aryan Papers". It would nicely bridge TWBB and The Master  :yabbse-wink:
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Post by: Reel on June 21, 2014, 11:25:49 AM
I don't think there'll be any Aryan Papers left after Inherent Vice!





get it?



...papers...white
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Post by: SailorOfTheSeas on June 22, 2014, 04:41:33 PM
That would be very interesting.

I would love a 40's noir horror film personally. Then after that, a three-hour + mad sci-fi  :yabbse-grin:
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Post by: MacGuffin on June 22, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: Larry Doc Sportello on June 22, 2014, 12:36:34 PM
Quote from: SailorOfTheSeas on June 21, 2014, 05:40:07 AM
PTA could make "Aryan Papers". It would nicely bridge TWBB and The Master  :yabbse-wink:

no, he wouldn't do that. Look into interviews/commentary & you will learn that PTA is Original. He riffs off the Greatest, but re-creating an unrealized project from Stanley Kubrick? What are you, stupid?


The prospect of a 40s-era film would be incredible. I know he loves his 40's on 4. Can you imagine a television-station based story during the heart of WW2? like Network during Stalingrad

The Master Race.
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Post by: Frederico Fellini on June 22, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
100% certain PTA will make a sci-fi, it's just a matter of when... And I dont think it will be now.

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Post by: Drenk on June 22, 2014, 07:35:25 PM
STAR WARS: EPISODE PUT THIS LIGHT SABER IN MY VAGINA RIGHT NOW.

(Boogie Night's secret sequel.)
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Post by: Lottery on June 22, 2014, 09:00:56 PM
I personally don't want is him to be/repeat da Kubes. I definitely like the sound of that early days of television film, that could be great.
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Post by: Jeremy Blackman on June 22, 2014, 09:32:19 PM
Quote from: Larry Doc Sportello on June 22, 2014, 12:36:34 PMWhat are you, stupid?

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Post by: Reel on June 23, 2014, 11:40:50 AM
Someone had to take Pubrick's place
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Post by: SailorOfTheSeas on June 23, 2014, 01:16:47 PM
i thought the winking smiley established that i was, at least, semi-joking?  :yabbse-smiley: either way, the more i've been thinking, i want a PTA stop motion horror film set in the far dystopian future.
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Post by: Tictacbk on June 24, 2014, 06:18:22 PM
Inherent Vice 2: Inherent Twice.
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Post by: N on June 24, 2014, 07:06:01 PM
Boogie Nights 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Post by: SailorOfTheSeas on June 25, 2014, 02:22:55 AM
There Will Be Bloods.
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Post by: Robyn on June 25, 2014, 10:40:19 AM
Lilie
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Post by: AntiDumbFrogQuestion on June 25, 2014, 11:04:04 AM
Hard Nine:
Viva Las Sydney
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Post by: Just Withnail on June 25, 2014, 01:43:05 PM
Tango Dawns
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Post by: Gittes on November 18, 2014, 03:35:27 AM
I was just revisiting PTA's SIRIUS XM interview (http://cigsandredvines.blogspot.ca/2012/10/interview-sirius-xm.html) and I came across the following bit, which is something I had been looking for a few months back. I just stumbled across it now accidentally.

Quote from: MA:  Who'd be at the top of the list?  Starting tomorrow.  You get the perfect project.  Who would you call up?

PTA:  Oh, god, let me just think.  You know, De Niro.  Robert De Niro would be amazing to work with.  Jim Carrey would be amazing to work with.  I'm thinking of... Charlize Theron I think is dynamite.  She's so great.  I'm trying to think of some other names.  Jennifer Jason Leigh's one of our great actresses.  I haven't had a chance to work with her.  Michael Shannon, do you guys know him?  He's dynamite, too.

This is the only time he's mentioned Jim Carrey, right? I remember a lot of people were speculating that Carrey would join the cast of Inherent Vice. I wonder if he was approached.

Anyway, I really hope that they will collaborate one day.
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Post by: Gittes on November 19, 2014, 12:44:19 AM
In addition to Carrey, there's obviously a long list of actors that would probably bring a lot to a PTA movie. If we stick to the comedic emphasis, though, I think Bill Hader should also be near the top of that list (on a related note, I'm now reminded of this Cigs & Red Vines update (http://cigsandredvines.blogspot.ca/2012/11/bill-hader-patton-oswalt-talk-pta.html)).

Kyle Mooney, too. He's on SNL right now but, based on the few recent episodes that I've seen, the show hasn't demanded enough from him. For an indication of the breadth of his talents and his distinct comedic sensibilities, see the amazing video below:

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Post by: Ulivija on January 04, 2015, 12:48:09 AM
I watched the new Criterion edition of "Vanishing". Director Sluizer talks about how Kubrick loved the film, and cast its lead actress for "Aryan Papers". Then I watched a documentary about "Aryan Papers" where Kubrick's producer talks how they would love it if a great director would tackle that project that Kubrick abandoned. I know PTA would probably never direct a project that's already developed, but I think he would make a hell of a movie. The book is called "Wartime Lies", and its author Louis Begley also wrote "About Schmidt".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkHBNAW7ssU
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Post by: jenkins on April 17, 2015, 12:47:46 AM
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Pynchon writes: It's been a while since I've read anything quite so groovy, quite such a joy from beginning to end. This book comes on like the Hallelujah Chorus done by 200 kazoo players with perfect pitch, I mean strong, swinging, skillful and reverent -- but also with the fine brassy buzz of irreverence in there too. FariƱa has going for him an unerring and virtuoso instinct about exactly what, in this bewildering Republic, is serious and what cannot possibly be -- and on top of that, the honesty to come out and say it straight. In spinning his yarn he spins the reader as well, dizzily into a microcosm that manages to be hilarious, chilling, sexy, profound, maniacal, beautiful and outrageous all at the same time.
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Post by: jenkins on April 17, 2015, 07:20:50 PM
Quote from: Larry on April 17, 2015, 11:06:28 AM
Have you read it, Jenks?! Thanks for the reply :D  its my favorite...ive read it twice

<3 nah i bought it 'cause of the writer's pynchon friendship, the writer's fascinating irl story and because of the title, but it's been sitting on my shelf for years and years though you did just juice up my interests again