Godard

Started by Duck Sauce, February 01, 2003, 08:29:30 PM

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I have seen The 400 Blows and Shoot the Piano Player and quite like both of them. I think it's great in A Woman is a Woman that Godard references his own Breathless and Shoot the Piano Player but somehow manages not to break the fourth wall in doing so.

Alethia

so, yeah, i got my WeekEnd R2 dvd in the mail today and i just watched it (my sixth viewing) - and i just wanna restate that all of you with even the slightest interest in godard should see it NOW.

tpfkabi

how much would that cost (and i guess that means i need a certain type dvd player)?
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Alethia

uhhh i ordered it a while ago, and without checking the site (amazon.co.uk) i think it was around 30 or 35 dollars.  and yes, you would need to get a region free player.  then again, you could always just buy the vhs for like twenty-five or whatever.  but the movie looks much better on the disc, and there are two good interviews on it, one with mike figgis and the other with raoul coutard (which was extremely entertaining).

SoNowThen

Yeah, those two extras are up there for best so far this year. Particularly the Figgis one. He gives about the fairest summation of Godard I've heard yet.

While you guys are at it, you should get the new R2 versions of Masculin Feminin, Vivre Sa Vie, and 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her. No extras, but they all look great.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Alethia

the R2 for vivre sa vie is better than the lorber?

tpfkabi

i want to say GT posted that Masculin Feminine and 2 or 3 Things both had strong chances of being Criterions in the future.
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SoNowThen

Yes, the R2 is better than the Lorber one. But really, what shitty half-price garage sale old video copy of anything isn't better than a Fox Lorber transfer?

To be fair, the only real difference is a cleaning up of minor scratches and dust. Looks like they also added a hint more of contrast and sharpness, but nothing that makes me think it was overboard.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

tpfkabi

yeah, but Fox Lorber discs are under $10 and play on my DVD player. i love them for that. if Criterion issues a disc then i'll be all over it, but for now I'm happy that I at least own some version of some great films.
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tpfkabi

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050315/REVIEWS/50322004/1023

a blurb on Masculine Femine.......and there is a link to the trailer.[/url]
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SoNowThen

For those considering buying the recent cc of Tout Va Bien...

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's fantastic. Better than Weekend, imo.
Those who say that the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union was not "real" Marxism also cannot admit that one simple feature of Marxism makes totalitarianism necessary:  the rejection of civil society. Since civil society is the sphere of private activity, its abolition and replacement by political society means that nothing private remains. That is already the essence of totalitarianism; and the moralistic practice of the trendy Left, which regards everything as political and sometimes reveals its hostility to free speech, does nothing to contradict this implication.

When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

Alethia

have you watched the interview with him yet in it, where he's unshaven and in his bathrobe?  look at his eyes, he looks so wacked out, its kinda scary.

The Perineum Falcon

Quote from: SoNowThenFor those considering buying the recent cc of Tout Va Bien...

DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's fantastic. Better than Weekend, imo.
Ha! I bought it last night!

It was different, but I really enjoyed it. I especially love the long tracking shot in the supermarket!

:yabbse-thumbup:

Someone convince me to buy Contempt. It came down between Tout Va Bien and Contempt, and I chose the former.
I'm not sure why, but I'm always really nervous when I buy a Godard on a whim. I love his work, so I really don't understand what my problem is.

And I can't wait to see Masculin/Feminin, whenever that shall be.
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UncleJoey

Quote from: ranemaka13Someone convince me to buy Contempt.

It's probably my third favorite Godard film, behind Breathless and My Life to Live, and easily his most beautifully shot, from what I've seen. Brigitte Bardot's nude scene very early in the film is particularly breathtaking for reasons beyond the obvious (and the story behind it is very interesting, as well). Also, the score is one of my favorites. Scorsese also uses it to great effect in Casino.

Quote from: ranemaka13And I can't wait to see Masculin/Feminin, whenever that shall be.

I'll be seeing a new print of that sometime this spring or summer in Milwaukee.  The theater's website just says "coming soon", so I'm not sure exactly when it will be.

Also, I saw Notre Musique Thursday night. I thought it was pretty bad - just an absolute mess.
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Quote from: ranemaka13And I can't wait to see Masculin/Feminin, whenever that shall be.

official rialto theatrical re-release was back in february so optimistic dvd release date would be in november but I'd expect a 2006 release by Criterion.