I know me, Duck Sauce, SoNowThen and maybe Ghostboy are probably the only ones that really care about this criminally overrated, haunting, gorgeous, hilarious, poignant, downright heartbreaking movie but I didn't feel like PM'ing everyone and I don't know how many people are planning on renting it or anything so I decided to take up a whole thread for this beautiful, wonderful news...hope nobody beat me to it. It is coming out over the summer after all it looks like, my dreams have indeed come true. I didn't find any news on feautures or anything...maybe Mac can, I don't know....I don't even really care at this point, I'm just happy as can be that I know the release date and it's actually coming out over the summer.
This is according to Hollywood Bitchslap's dvd release schedule by the way...check it out if you haven't yet, it's the self proclaimed best on the net and I can't say I've found anything better yet.
Here's to hoping it doesn't get delayed and that it has a good commentary and some cool feautures like GW did! It doesn't say it's getting released by criterion but it does say columbia/tristar which isn't too bad...they can release a great dvd when they want to (ie. pdl). Remember, at least finally we know it's getting one!
YES YES YES FUCK YES!!!! WHOOOO HOOO!!! YEAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great news, ebs. I'm burning the hell out of my ATRG soundtrack, trying to recreate the movie mood to hold me over. Kick fucking ass!
Quote from: SoNowThenYES YES YES FUCK YES!!!! WHOOOO HOOO!!! YEAHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Great news, ebs. I'm burning the hell out of my ATRG soundtrack, trying to recreate the movie mood to hold me over. Kick fucking ass!
Oh man, can you like PM me that "beautiful stars" song? Is there anyway you can do that? I lost my freaking copy of the cd and I love that song. I luckily already got the "streets are raining" song on my mp3 player before I lost the thing so the only one I absolutely NEED is "beautiful stars".
EDIT - nevermind actually...I think I can find it. I'm just all in my teenage girl mode now that I found out the release date and freaking out about it, I'll find it sooner or later. Don't worry about it.
Fuck, gimme your address and I'll burn you a copy of the cd.
Like I said though, I dunno if it's just mine, but the song quality doesn't seem that high...
Your right ebeaman, I do care. VERY MUCH
I only mentioned it in one thread, but I am having major withdrawals to not being able to see this movie. I still haven't seen it. I keep on hoping it will go to the city only an hour away from me but it never does. The city did get Man Without a Past which I am happy to be seeing today but my dissapointment is that All the Real Girls, every week, continues to show up nowhere on my radar of location. This is the movie I want to see the most and am the most excited for and thing is, all you've guys seen it. Just imagine being in my position instead. It's really terrible. This is good news and makes August 19th an even more important day, but I really want to see it sooner than that.
~rougerum
Yeah, I can't believe it actually came to my city. Metro Cinema I love you!
That sucks, GT. Well, at least you don't have to wait that much longer...
I do plan to give this another shot when it comes to DVD...
Damn GT, that does suck horribly...I literally can't imagine waiting THAT long to see it. I'm surprised your anticipation has kept up that much. I mean, I was bitching when my town didn't yet have it in March with it coming out on valentine's day in nyc and all...guess I didn't have it half bad...ended up coming on April 18th after all...over spring break. This movie couldn't have turned out a better release...both theatrically and with the dvd (knock on wood).
I'm blind buying this movie. Better be worth it, ebeaman, or you're paying me back.
One of the best bb's you'll ever have.
Quote from: MacGuffinI'm blind buying this movie. Better be worth it, ebeaman, or you're paying me back.
Really good choice man...it really is worth it. You should probably see George Washington first though if you haven't. And watch it at least twice before you decide what you think of it, do the same with Girls. Seriously, these are not breezy charmers...they are haunting and take some getting used to. You'll either love em to death or hate em...you know, you've heard all this before. Check them both out though. The only things you can really check out to get any idea at all of DGG's films are Malick and Altman's, and Michale Ritchie's films, he has definitley been influenced by all of them...I'm sure you've already seen all of them but just so you know. Check out Mccabe & Mrs Miller if you haven't to be specific...it's so fucking great, it's really underrated.
Quote from: ebeamanAnd watch it at least twice before you decide what you think of it, do the same with Girls.
Did you?
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: ebeamanAnd watch it at least twice before you decide what you think of it, do the same with Girls.
Did you?
I'm saying if you think you hate it or dislike it the first time, you should definitely give it another chance a week or so later and let it sink in. I personally loved it the first time but I'm not going to lie to you...there were definitley some people that really didn't know what to make of it and were overwhelemed by it at first, mostly people that had not seen GW or any of Malick's films. Lol, actually...mostly people that had just payed for Maid in Manhattan a few weeks prior so I don't even know why I'm telling you. I'm just afraid you won't like it I guess, I'd feel guilty.
Have you seen GW or Malick or Altman or Michael Ritchie films? I forget if you've talked about any of them.
Quote from: ebeamanHave you seen GW or Malick or Altman or Michael Ritchie films? I forget if you've talked about any of them.
I blind bought GW based on discussions on the old board. I can see the Malick and Altman influences, but please explain how the director of the "Fletch" movies and "Bad News Bears" is an influence.
DGG always talks about loving Bad News Bears as a kid, but I'm not sure if it has a direct stylistic influence. Maybe the whole "honest kids' movie" thing, but I haven't seen BNB, I'm just guessing.
Fletch, though... seriously funny movies.
i will more than likely blind buy this so i hope fans of this film are right :)
There are two Michael Ritchies -- one who made broad comedies in the 80's (Fletch, Survivors, Golden Child). Then there's the Michael Ritchie of the 70's -- two films with Redford, Downhill Racer and The Candidate, have a low-key, almost documentary like feel that is similar to George Washington. Also, Prime Cut, which feels similar to Badlands (and even features Sissy Spacek). Smile mixed the documentary-style realism of his early 70's stuff with the broader comedy of his more commercial films (Bad News Bears, Semi Tough).
Quote from: soixanteThere are two Michael Ritchies -- one who made broad comedies in the 80's (Fletch, Survivors, Golden Child). Then there's the Michael Ritchie of the 70's -- two films with Redford, Downhill Racer and The Candidate, have a low-key, almost documentary like feel that is similar to George Washington. Also, Prime Cut, which feels similar to Badlands (and even features Sissy Spacek). Smile mixed the documentary-style realism of his early 70's stuff with the broader comedy of his more commercial films (Bad News Bears, Semi Tough).
Exactly...I think he's really right about Michael Ritchie too. The BNB's and Smile are fucking great. Fletch is pretty damn funny too. I'm definitley interested in seeing some of those other ones...he's a great filmmaker.
Michael Ritchie's The Candidate is a great film, perhaps the best political film made other than another Redford production, All The President's Men. If you want to know about the nuts and bolts of a U.S. Senate campaign, check out The Candidate. Plus, The Candidate showed how TV (both news and commercials) was beginning to effect the political process, and of course it is more true now than ever before. What's cool about The Candidate is that it doesn't hit you over the head like an Oliver Stone film, but rather presents material in a low-key, matter of fact way and lets mature adults sort out the meaning for themselves. Which brings us to David Gordon Green -- while PTA has the 70's Scorsese-Altman-Demme thing down to a T, Green is inspired by Malick and other 70's filmmakers who made quiet, thoughtful movies (example: Fat City by John Huston or Five Easy Pieces by Bob Rafelson). No bombastic, John Williams symphonic scores or acton set-pieces every 10 minutes, just slow, deliberate, watchful, contemplative movies about the human experience, with things unfolding in an unstressed way.
Quote from: soixanteMichael Ritchie's The Candidate is a great film, perhaps the best political film made other than another Redford production, All The President's Men. If you want to know about the nuts and bolts of a U.S. Senate campaign, check out The Candidate. Plus, The Candidate showed how TV (both news and commercials) was beginning to effect the political process, and of course it is more true now than ever before. What's cool about The Candidate is that it doesn't hit you over the head like an Oliver Stone film, but rather presents material in a low-key, matter of fact way and lets mature adults sort out the meaning for themselves. Which brings us to David Gordon Green -- while PTA has the 70's Scorsese-Altman-Demme thing down to a T, Green is inspired by Malick and other 70's filmmakers who made quiet, thoughtful movies (example: Fat City by John Huston or Five Easy Pieces by Bob Rafelson). No bombastic, John Williams symphonic scores or acton set-pieces every 10 minutes, just slow, deliberate, watchful, contemplative movies about the human experience, with things unfolding in an unstressed way.
Could you imagine how to combine an influence of PTA, DGG, Altman and Scorsese? It's impossible to do and they are probably my three main influences...what will my films be like?
Quote from: ebeamanCould you imagine how to combine an influence of PTA, DGG, Altman and Scorsese? It's impossible to do and they are probably my three main influences...what will my films be like?
Simple. Just make a film that's way too long for its own good (kidding--sort of), the characters are either lovable, hatable, or too complex to pinpoint, the colors are beautiful but washed out, the dialogue is crappy but "crappy in a good way", everyone talks over everyone else "just like in real life" and everyone either dies at the end or is in jail. ;)
Scorsese, Altman, PTA, DGG -- these are all great influences. The reason I love PTA and Quentin Tarantino is that they've absorbed all the best influences from the 70's, and then made potent use of them.
When I look at Scorsese, I see some Godard, some Cassavetes, a pinch of Italian Neorealism, some Truffaut, and God knows what else. Scorsese and PTA are both film scholars, and they have plenty of influences to inspire them (same with Paul Schrader).
Altman has made so many movies, he has been able to really experiment and do different things. Compare the sprawling, satiric quality of Nashville with the more quiet, austere feeling of Thieves Like Us -- it's amazing the same director made both films. Altman's films are very quiet, and slow, and require a great deal of patience to appreciate, but they are worth the effort.
Watching 70's movies today, I am struck mostly by how quiet they are. They don't crank up the score and the sound effects, they don't jab you in the ribs with loud music cues or dumb gags, they simply allow you to experience a well-told story without a lot of needless sound and fury. DGG seems to be returning to this aesthetic.
Sadly, the 70's films that people remember the most and that proved the most influential -- Network, Jaws, Star Wars, Halloween, etc. -- were not really the most artistic. Network was too obvious, with its characters giving long speeches -- it was the precursor to the bombast of Oliver Stone and Spike Lee.
I've always planned on making very different films. Like I wanna make a low budget movie with no real actors, later in my career I wanna make a huge blockbuster thriller starring Tom Cruise...then I always wanna be able to go back and make that low budget movie again. And I never wanna have a cast of ALL STARS. DGG's always talking about how brilliant and fun it is to put big name stars w/ people that have never seen a film camera before and how their really can be chemistry there and it can be really fucking fun to do. That's what I wanna do w/ just about every film I do. I'm not going to be a dick and say that I never wanna make a big film w/ explosions and stunts...I always want to be honest though and as I said, I never want to limit myself to those kind of films AND I want to always have some little no-names in my cast. I'm pretty much quoting DGG on everything I've said here. He said not to expect all of his films to be like his first two and that Drew Barrymore is going to be in one of his films and that he loves George Clooney...I think that is so cool. That is a guy who truly loves film...he loves it all, and he wants to make it all...that's so inspiring.
Anyway, you guys gotta fucking see this. It's an AWESOME albeit short article about Undertow, DGG's next film! They even have a couple screencaps of it!!! Check it out if you haven't come across it yet! It looks and sounds beautiful! Who would have thought he'd make a thriller? He wasn't kidding when he said he was always going to be branching out. Here's the link...
http://www.indiewire.com/biz/biz_030516ua.html
Also, check this one out to hear him talk about PDL and how badly he wants to see it AND this really weird, really cool sci-fi film idea he has in mind!!! He actually talks about all that at the end of the interview but read the whole thing anyway, it's really really cool. I guess he was planning on doing this sci-fi thing even before All the Real Girls...weird stuff. Maybe the script is already finished! It's really cool for him to talk about PTA like that...two geniuses have connected! Thank god for them, they are taking chances and saving film. Too bad he gives credit to Todd Solondz, that's the first time I've ever completely disagreed with him. Anyway, let me stop my rambling and shut up and give you the link...read this whole thing too. I hope at least some of you guys care as much about all this as I do or I'm going to look really stupid.
http://indyweek.com/durham/2001-03-21/ae3.html
Ebeaman, the guy likes Happiness... :wink:
Fuck yes!!! Here are the AWESOME specs straight from amazon for those that care...
-commentary by director and cast
-theatrical trailer(s)
-"improv and ensemble:the evolution of a film"
-deleted scenes
-widescreen and anamorphic format
God, can you believe that? Seriously, did anybody else just have an orgasm? I guess DGG must know he has some fans out there. Thank god it has a commentary...it's a heavenly dream for me to hear Zooey Deschanel talk for 100 minutes and DGG and Paul Schneider did awesome on the GW commentary.
One thing though, what the hell does anamorphic mean? Sounds like some X-men type thing or something.
Anyway, hope this hasn't already been posted! Hope that people care, lol.
Happy SoNowThen. Very very happy. Thanks for the good news, Ebs.
Quote from: ebeamanOne thing though, what the hell does anamorphic mean?
Second post:
http://xixax.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1946
EB, you wanna have like a million babies with DGG or what? jus kidins
yeah, I'm one of the ones who Blind Bought GW cuz of you and others and I guess I have to watch it a second time like you said. I watched about a quarter of it with a few others and they all hated it. and they're not mainstreamers in particular, they loved PDL and stuff like that, they just found it incredibly boring. I however can't say I hated it, I thought it looked great and all, but I couldn't get into the story. It felt like a long poem, which is nice, but the story element has to be there for me and I felt the coming of age part of it lacked big time. that's the most important chunk of a movie I think, and while something can LOOK beautiful, it still has to hook me and keep me interested. it took me three nights to finish GW cuz I kept falling asleep, y'know.
however, the images do inspire. I found myself outside shooting everything from the skyline, birds and overcast clouds from my rooftop to a dirty old white cat drinking sewer water.
I'll give it as a whole another whirl though. I did spend 35 bucks on it.
but don't feel bad for me cuz I will be Blind Buying ATRG as well.
in the Charlie Rose interview on GW he mentions 3 movie scripts he was working on.
1. a love story = is the ATRG? (i haven't seen it)
2. a sci-fi flick
3. a western where 3 guys are trying to kill a horse
(i think that is right)
so how is ATRG compared to GW? same type of style?
Are you in fact David Gordon Green because you seem to love the guy. To be honest, I haven't seen his films but I really want to. For some unknown reason, I can't find George Washington anywhere to rent up here in Canada and I really do want to see All the Real Girls.
At least you're doing your part in trying to get people into his movies.
One question though, his films aren't like Harmony Korine's are they? Because I fucking despise his pieces of garbage known as movies.
QuoteQuote from: poserEB, you wanna have like a million babies with DGG or what? jus kidins
No man...Zooey Deschanel...definitely Zooey Deschanel, lol.
Quoteyeah, I'm one of the ones who Blind Bought GW cuz of you and others and I guess I have to watch it a second time like you said. I watched about a quarter of it with a few others and they all hated it. and they're not mainstreamers in particular, they loved PDL and stuff like that, they just found it incredibly boring. I however can't say I hated it, I thought it looked great and all, but I couldn't get into the story. It felt like a long poem, which is nice, but the story element has to be there for me and I felt the coming of age part of it lacked big time. that's the most important chunk of a movie I think, and while something can LOOK beautiful, it still has to hook me and keep me interested. it took me three nights to finish GW cuz I kept falling asleep, y'know.
however, the images do inspire. I found myself outside shooting everything from the skyline, birds and overcast clouds from my rooftop to a dirty old white cat drinking sewer water.
I'll give it as a whole another whirl though. I did spend 35 bucks on it.
but don't feel bad for me cuz I will be Blind Buying ATRG as well.
Well, I'm glad you seem to be more open minded than your friends, that's good. Hope you like it a little more next time.
You should definitely still check out ATRG even if you don't end up liking GW cause I think it has a little bit more of a story than GW...which isn't hard cause GW has like no story. It's a little bit more conventional too in certain ways. This is not to say it's a conventional film. It's just a little bit more "polished" as many critics have said, I would agree with that. It's a little more mature and finished.
Quote from: Disco StuOne question though, his films aren't like Harmony Korine's are they? Because I fucking despise his pieces of garbage known as movies.
You've just hurt Harmony's 2nd biggest fan.
chris
okay, first off i want to say that i dont like posting in a movie thread that has gone on for a while unless i can add something that hasnt been said. i like reading what others thought, and sometimes ill force myself to respond with my opinion on the film, which is usually just a line or a couple of words. but since my good buddy ebeaman wants to hear what i thought of all the real girls, ill write a couple of lines:
it took me a little while before getting into the movie because, frankly, its too "sweet" and "sensitive".... and as i stated before, i like to watch more depressing and pessimistic stuff. but thats just me. this isnt the films fault (i guess). but after about 10-15 minutes i really got into it and enjoyed it very much. the "sweetness" and "sensitivity" (in other words "poetry") of the film eventually touched me. great film, well shot. the performances were magical.
though, just to get on another one of my sexual rants, i dont understand what the big deal with "cheating" is. why are people so upset that their girlfriend or boyfriend fucks other people? its just sex, i wouldnt care if my gf plays monopoly with someone else (though if she sees a movie that i want to see without me, oh shell get the silent treatment :wink: ) so why would i care if she fucks someone else? id like to hear her talk about it too.... is it because people are afraid that their bf/ gf might fall for the someone else that they are fucking or what?
Wait a sec, Cecil, didn't you say you'd never had sex? Or am I thinking of someone else?
Quote from: GhostboyWait a sec, Cecil, didn't you say you'd never had sex? Or am I thinking of someone else?
youre thinking of someone else
EDIT: or youre confused by my anti-sex posts
OTHER EDIT: or you took that post i made in the sexuality/ kubrick/ eyes wide shut thread back on the c&c boards seriously. and if thats the case, i laugh at you and i laugh at everyone who fell for that. ahhahahahaahahha. suckers. reading all those " :shock: " replies was one of the best moments of my life. anyone has a link to it? or can copy it as an image somewhere here?
Quote from: cecil b. dementedi wouldnt care if my gf plays monopoly with someone else (though if she sees a movie that i want to see without me, oh shell get the silent treatment :wink: )
hahahaha, thats fucking great......
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI only mentioned it in one thread, but I am having major withdrawals to not being able to see this movie. I still haven't seen it. I keep on hoping it will go to the city only an hour away from me but it never does. The city did get Man Without a Past which I am happy to be seeing today but my dissapointment is that All the Real Girls, every week, continues to show up nowhere on my radar of location. This is the movie I want to see the most and am the most excited for and thing is, all you've guys seen it. Just imagine being in my position instead. It's really terrible. This is good news and makes August 19th an even more important day, but I really want to see it sooner than that.
~rougerum
I know what you mean. I'm fucking
burning to see this movie, and ebeaman and co. are only making it worse! :wink:
But thanks for the info on the dvd release man. I await it with salivating mouth and lobster bib on, arms outstretched and goo-goo-ga-gaing for my turn......
you sexy mother fucker you
Quote from: cecil b. dementedokay, first off i want to say that i dont like posting in a movie thread that has gone on for a while unless i can add something that hasnt been said. i like reading what others thought, and sometimes ill force myself to respond with my opinion on the film, which is usually just a line or a couple of words. but since my good buddy ebeaman wants to hear what i thought of all the real girls, ill write a couple of lines:
it took me a little while before getting into the movie because, frankly, its too "sweet" and "sensitive".... and as i stated before, i like to watch more depressing and pessimistic stuff. but thats just me. this isnt the films fault (i guess). but after about 10-15 minutes i really got into it and enjoyed it very much. the "sweetness" and "sensitivity" (in other words "poetry") of the film eventually touched me. great film, well shot. the performances were magical.
though, just to get on another one of my sexual rants, i dont understand what the big deal with "cheating" is. why are people so upset that their girlfriend or boyfriend fucks other people? its just sex, i wouldnt care if my gf plays monopoly with someone else (though if she sees a movie that i want to see without me, oh shell get the silent treatment :wink: ) so why would i care if she fucks someone else? id like to hear her talk about it too.... is it because people are afraid that their bf/ gf might fall for the someone else that they are fucking or what?
cecil, you be demented
Quote from: Disco StuAre you in fact David Gordon Green because you seem to love the guy.
Lol, no man...what's wrong with loving his work as a different person? Have you ever asked MrBurgerKing if in fact he is a resurrected Dave Thomas?
I just realized who you used to be Ghoulardi Goon, I like the change...it's a good name...razor sharp. Anyway, hope you like the movie man, post a little review on this board when you finally see it, I'd like to read it. Glad to know your as interested in this as I am, makes me feel more sane...thanks.
Thanks to Cecil too of course...I know it's not your style to make a post longer than a sentence or two. Sounds like you really liked the movie too. It never occured to me before you mentioned it...about the potential this movie had to piss you off with its sweetness, forgot about that...glad you were able to overlook all that and see the same great movie that I saw man. One thing though...thinking about it now...I think PDL is a little sweeter with its ending and the now famous hawaii kiss shot and all. Were you as hesitant to like and give in to PDL's sweetness as you were with ATRG? Cause I know PDL does offset its sweetness a little with some darkness...while ATRG offsets it with honesty and sadness. Anyway, just wondered what your thoughts were with that.
Quote from: MacGuffinI'm blind buying this movie. Better be worth it, ebeaman, or you're paying me back.
no joke. ebeaman, i too will blind buy it, but i tell u this now. if this movie isn't atleast half as good as u say it is, im going to come over to ur house in the middle of the night and stab u to death w/ a goddamn cocktail fork.
Quote from: ebeamanWere you as hesitant to like and give in to PDL's sweetness as you were with ATRG?
nope, pdl got me from the first second to the last. probably because of its quirks and weirdness
Quote from: ©bradQuote from: MacGuffinI'm blind buying this movie. Better be worth it, ebeaman, or you're paying me back.
no joke. ebeaman, i too will blind buy it, but i tell u this now. if this movie isn't atleast half as good as u say it is, im going to come over to ur house in the middle of the night and stab u to death w/ a goddamn cocktail fork.
I love this place.
I think I'm gonna blind buy George Washington, ebeaman. I can't find it anywhere to rent so that's my last resort. The price is pretty steep so I sure as hell hope it'll be worth it. The DVD seems to have a lot of features though. Are the two short films any good?
I love Days of Heaven and if this is reminiscent of that film, then I should like it. But if not, it'll be on your conscience. :lol:
Quote from: Disco StuI think I'm gonna blind buy George Washington, ebeaman. I can't find it anywhere to rent so that's my last resort. The price is pretty steep so I sure as hell hope it'll be worth it. The DVD seems to have a lot of features though. Are the two short films any good?
I love Days of Heaven and if this is reminiscent of that film, then I should like it. But if not, it'll be on your conscience. :lol:
In case you really are gonna buy it, I think Macguffin is selling this movie somewhere else on this board as we speak...
aw
Quote from: jokerspathQuote from: Disco StuI think I'm gonna blind buy George Washington, ebeaman. I can't find it anywhere to rent so that's my last resort. The price is pretty steep so I sure as hell hope it'll be worth it.
In case you really are gonna buy it, I think Macguffin is selling this movie somewhere else on this board as we speak...
Sorry. It's been sold already.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: jokerspathQuote from: Disco StuI think I'm gonna blind buy George Washington, ebeaman. I can't find it anywhere to rent so that's my last resort. The price is pretty steep so I sure as hell hope it'll be worth it.
In case you really are gonna buy it, I think Macguffin is selling this movie somewhere else on this board as we speak...
Sorry. It's been sold already.
My bad, shoulda checked up on that before providing false hope...
aw
the short film, "A Day with the Boys" (i think that's right) is very good.
i just watched The Wind Will Carry Us. it kinda has the same feel as GW
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: jokerspathQuote from: Disco StuI think I'm gonna blind buy George Washington, ebeaman. I can't find it anywhere to rent so that's my last resort. The price is pretty steep so I sure as hell hope it'll be worth it.
In case you really are gonna buy it, I think Macguffin is selling this movie somewhere else on this board as we speak...
Sorry. It's been sold already.
Did you sell it cause you didn't like it?
Quote from: poserDid you sell it cause you didn't like it?
Got an extra copy from a 'connection'. I still have mine.
i just saw this at the local international film festival, it hasn't had an official theatrical release here.
i love it,. if i had the dvd i would want to cuddle up with it. all you blind buys have nothing to worry about.
it's a really, genuinely, touching film about a friend's hot sister.
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: jokerspathQuote from: Disco StuI think I'm gonna blind buy George Washington, ebeaman. I can't find it anywhere to rent so that's my last resort. The price is pretty steep so I sure as hell hope it'll be worth it.
In case you really are gonna buy it, I think Macguffin is selling this movie somewhere else on this board as we speak...
Sorry. It's been sold already.
check
http://www.dvdplanet.com/search_quick.asp?keywords=George+Washington
$25 and well worth it.
Quote from: Pit's a really, genuinely, touching film about a friend's hot sister.
I always did like you P. You are fucking awesome. This may be enough for me not to turn around and lash out at you in 5 minutes. Best fucking review I've read of this film...seriously...and I have read a lot of reviews for it. This tops them all.
i liked george washington just a dash more, but i still fucking loved this film. definitly the best of 2003 so far
Went to four different stores before finally finding this damn thing. Better be worth it.
Quote from: MacGuffinWent to four different stores before finally finding this damn thing. Better be worth it.
Mac, where did you find it?
Quote from: chainsmoking insomniacMac, where did you find it?
The Wherehouse. Only had one copy.
Best Buy, Curcuit City and Fry's Electronics didn't have any in stock.
GOT MINE GOT MINE GOT MINE
don't worry, Mac. It's soooooooo worth it.
Netflix already has it. Just got it in the mail today.
Fuck. No video store in my city has it. No place selling it. I ordered through amazon but am not sure. Amazon screwed up on the last 5 movies I ordered and I never got them. Again, fuck.
I'm on the waiting list still.
~rougerum
Quote from: MacGuffinFry's Electronics
they suck ass for new DVD releases the 2 times I have tried to grab something on "the day"...they hadn't recieved them yet...the last one being PDL....so I went and got it at Walmart. That is sad.
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"i know, i know... my store sucks"
Best Buy never fails me!
It felt good to blind buy this for some reason
it just looks like a movie I'm gonna love
plus I think I enjoy the same cup of tea as SoNowThen
but Ebes is the OG Bastard on DGG I believe
Gotta give 'im props for his tase in movies at his age
Okay wow. Just watched it. Stop reading now if you haven't seen it 'cause spoilers are coming.
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That's probably the first movie that I've seen that's ever really captured that feeling of being cheated on. I really felt that one. Great movie.
Get ready, ebeaman:
First off, I'm not disappointed about blind buying this. I think Green's filmmaking can be summed up in a shot that just struck me as a stand out. It's the one on the dog with his hind legs disabled, and yet he still is capable and able to go on, and Green finds beauty in objects/characters like that. Here, he takes everyday, banal dialogue interesting and tells us alot about the characters from it. The relationship of their innocent, young love was beautiully set up and established. Zooey commanded the screen in the 'fish hook' story, and Green does right by the actors to just let them talk in long takes. It gives everything a very real and natural feel. I also think the editing is incredible in this film. Love how the dialogue plays over other scenes/images.
But then, when she becomes 'honest' with Paul, it lost something for me. It turned a bit cliche (a little like "Who's That Knocking On My Door?"). The dialogue after that point seemed written, and, yet, the actors felt like they didn't have any direction to say what they felt (and not in a 'that's how they're supposed to behave' way). At that point, the characters seemed to be doing things out of character for themselves. Soap opera or melodrama, whatever you wanna call it, seemed heavy handed then (the two ways the river flows, and Paul telling his mom that her hitting him hurt, but it helped, being examples). Now, it didn't upset me to the point where I hated the movie because of the ending, but it felt like another movie crept in. But still, it was worth watching.
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That's probably the first movie that I've seen that's ever really captured that feeling of being cheated on. I really felt that one. Great movie.
I agree 100% with you on that one, the confession scene really hit me hard because i was in a way in a conversation pretty much just like that and it felt so real and brought back old memories, weird how a movie can do that. I really love Tim Orr's camera work just as much as i liked it in G. Washington. Still need to check out the commentary and finish the deleted scenes, i really hated the first one that pops up, that bust-ass guy cant improve for shit, just repeats the same lines over and over, good thing that was taken out. I almost bought this but just decided to rent it and im glad i did, i enjoyed it but its not one i would watch over and over.
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I agree 100% with you on that one, the confession scene really hit me hard because i was in a way in a conversation pretty much just like that and it felt so real and brought back old memories, weird how a movie can do that.
Exactly. After thinking about the rest though I almost wish it had ended right there for some reason.
Quote from: mindfuckNetflix already has it. Just got it in the mail today.
I just got my email notice that they shipped it this morning!
aw
haven't got a chance to watch my copy yet -- it's killing me
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I just wanted to remember in writing, that part at the end, for those who have said they didn't like the last bits as much as the rest of the movie...
The whole "water dog, land dog" thing, then him sitting there with his puppy.... I think that's the most beautiful scene ever in a movie. I dunno. Just the perfect way to end the film to me...
Quote from: SoNowThenhaven't got a chance to watch my copy yet -- it's killing me
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I just wanted to remember in writing, that part at the end, for those who have said they didn't like the last bits as much as the rest of the movie...
The whole "water dog, land dog" thing, then him sitting there with his puppy.... I think that's the most beautiful scene ever in a movie. I dunno. Just the perfect way to end the film to me...
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Yea, that scene always made perfect sense to me cause it's like he finds solace in life with his dog after the breakup...I think a lot of people look to pets at traumatic times in their lives. That was as real as can be. He kinda takes some of his anger out on it at first, but eventually he calms down. It's hard to get mad at a good dog.
See, I think a lot of people expected it to end either with Paul clutching Noel in his arms or Noel waving goodbye to Paul from a bus window or something...but that's just not how it always ends up I don't think. I mean, I wouldn't be the one to tell you but I've seen other people's relationships go awry...and Paul's stuff at the end definitely reminded me of them. It's perfect.
I agree. Perfection.
And two more things I want to point out that I love about that scene:
1) He sits looking back at his home town. DDG could have picked a nice sunset or landscape or something, but if I remember correctly, he's mulling things over while he stares at the town he's lived in his whole life. Just speaks so many volumes in one shot -- exactly what film is supposed to do.
2) All I could think of with the dog is 'aw, that's so nice, he's sitting with his pupppy. How come my puppy doesn't sit still with me for more than one minute..', then the dog gets up and walks away. Absolute perfection. The movie read my mind.
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Answer me this then: Why does Noel, after having expressed that Paul was the only guy she wanted to spend more than five minutes with, lets him in on her 'fish hook' story, and trusts with her viginity secret, decide to "cheat" on him, and herself? To me, it seemed a plot device to get at what you guys are fawning over. She says after that, she knew she loved him, but I don't believe that. She loved him before that.
I dunno, sometimes you really love someone, yet still do things that you know are gonna hurt them.
the more i thought about the film, it seemed almost inevitable that she had to cheat on him, like a karma payback for what he used to do to girls.
but as to what she said, well, characters can say all they want but do they even know what they really meant? she's trying to explain, and she's doing a bad job of it. no matter what she says, it's not gonna take paul's hurt away.
but you're right, it does feel like the only "plotted" moment of the script. interestingly enough, at that moment in the theatre, all i could think of was 'this is a really great movie. but something should happen soon, otherwise i might not be able to keep loving it...', then of course the one thing i don't want to happen happens :).... just seemed to work on a narrative level for me, even though i understand it to be somewhat blatant plot manipulation...
Quote from: SoNowThenI dunno, sometimes you really love someone, yet still do things that you know are gonna hurt them.
the more i thought about the film, it seemed almost inevitable that she had to cheat on him, like a karma payback for what he used to do to girls.
Right right, that's what DGG talks about for a little in that making of featurette thing...about how it's like a doomed romance. That's what's so heartbreaking about it. It's about two people that might have been perfect for eachother but it was just bad timing...timing is everything. Hence the early scenes of utter infatuation and trust accompanied by the later scenes of betrayal and their (inevitable like you said) breakup.
AHA! So you watched everything?
How are the extras?
Notice how ebeaman is avoiding my discussion/opinion?
Quote from: MacGuffinNotice how ebeaman is avoiding my discussion/opinion?
No, I directly adressed it in my last post. You said you didn't undertand her trust in him, I thought I adressed that as much as I can.
Quote from: SoNowThenAHA! So you watched everything?
How are the extras?
I actually still haven't watched the movie. I finished the essay way late at night so I gave myself a little reward with the featurette and the trailer...I didn't even touch the commentary, that comes after.
The thing's kinda sucky I guess...it's one of those attempted "behind the scenes" featurettes where more than half of it is just clips from the movie (that I REALLY didn't wanna see b4 the movie!). There are a few cool little interviews and Zooey is too cool, DGG talks a little about his unconventional methods on the set, and Paul Schneider just looks really funny and smart.
Quote from: ebeamanNo, I directly adressed it in my last post. You said you didn't undertand her trust in him, I thought I adressed that as much as I can.
No, you indirectly addressed by just agreeing with everything SoNowThen is saying. And I didn't say I didn't understand her trust him, I know she trusts him....You know what, I'm not gonna retype it. Go back and read again, if you care. I'm done.
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Answer me this then: Why does Noel, after having expressed that Paul was the only guy she wanted to spend more than five minutes with, lets him in on her 'fish hook' story, and trusts with her viginity secret, decide to "cheat" on him, and herself? To me, it seemed a plot device to get at what you guys are fawning over. She says after that, she knew she loved him, but I don't believe that. She loved him before that.
i dunno man, sounds like petty criticism, u can make 'plotting' comments on any movie ever made.
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i didn't like that she cheated on him either, mainly cos it made me hate her. it was necessary.. and for paul to find any peace he had to come to terms with that idea, to understand and accept it.. which i think he might hav done in the end. i'm not sure exactly, but it wasn't just a plot device, there's sumthin about that much pain at that moment. i'm not saying it "happened for a reason", that's lame cos it was a moment without reason. but realistically what relationship
doesn' cause pain? not a real one. the film is left in a state of growth/change that worked really well for me.
mog, your av is so beautiful...
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you like the nothing?
Quote from: Pi dunno man, sounds like petty criticism, u can make 'plotting' comments on any movie ever made.
It's not petty because it turned the movie after that point into something conventional, and lost what originality came before it.
okay ignore everything else i said then. what would u like to hav happened instead? hypothetically, a more original conclusion..
Quote from: Pokay ignore everything else i said then..
Just doing what everybody else is doing to my comments.
I thought I tried to address them...
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: ebeamanNo, I directly adressed it in my last post. You said you didn't undertand her trust in him, I thought I adressed that as much as I can.
No, you indirectly addressed by just agreeing with everything SoNowThen is saying. And I didn't say I didn't understand her trust him, I know she trusts him....You know what, I'm not gonna retype it. Go back and read again, if you care. I'm done.
Alright alright, let me reiterate...this time directly. I think she puts her trust in him through sheer desperation. She only THINKS that she can trust him at that point and he think he can trust her. You have to remember, she's probably pretty desperate for somebody to latch on to and talk with cause she's been in boarding school for awhile, we never hear what her parents are like or how well she gets along with them (as far as I can remember). She kinda lets her guard down it looks like. Shes vulnerable and scared and all that wonderful stuff that makes sense in a young girl or guy.
Quote from: SoNowThenI thought I tried to address them...
Sorry. You're right. Yes, you did.
Quote from: MacGuffinJust doing what everybody else is doing to my comments.
hey man, fuck that, i'm speaking for myself and u know ur asking for trouble when u expect ebeaman to hav a reasonable argument here. the dude doesn't know love or what the fuck this movie is about, he's scared of chicks for christ's sake.
ebeaman will prolly just agree with me in the end cos he thinks i'm saying what he's feeling, but the truth is i'm not talking to them and ur avoiding any sense i'm making on account of no one else making any (sense).
anyway, i'm goin to bed, i'm done.
Chill.
I expressed clearly in my first review post why I didn't think it was a petty gripe. It's the same thing I keep reiterating. You focused on my back up post, which leads my to think you "ignored" my first one.
Quote from: MacGuffinwhich leads my to think you "ignored" my first one.
hm, i did actually. oh well.
I tried to make sense...I really did!
No, I guess I just like the movie too much to put it down...sorry Mac and P.
p, why would you say ebs doesn't know "love, or what this movie's about"?
Do you know him? Did I miss some sarcasm or something, because otherwise that's just fucking mean as hell.
who are you to say what he knows or doesn't know?
btw, before you turn on me, I liked your explanation for the ending...
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Answer me this then: Why does Noel, after having expressed that Paul was the only guy she wanted to spend more than five minutes with, lets him in on her 'fish hook' story, and trusts with her viginity secret, decide to "cheat" on him, and herself? To me, it seemed a plot device to get at what you guys are fawning over. She says after that, she knew she loved him, but I don't believe that. She loved him before that.
See, to me this was the whole point of the movie. I've been there in real life... this kinda shit happens ALL the time. I felt the relationship buildup... I placed the couple on a pedestal... and then she goes and does the unthinkable for no good reason at all and tries to tell him she loves him. I felt that pain all over again for a bit.
Not only that, but they nailed the transformation perfectly. Before the confession scene I held Noel in a certain light and just like Paul says, afterwards it feels like shes a stranger. I wish they had focused on that for the last part of the movie instead of Paul's gradual acceptance and final river scene. That whole part really seemed fake to me.
I think my problem with the movie is that enough of it hit me so personally that I wanted it to end a certain way. It seems like they decided to make the ending about the big picture when I wish they would have stuck to focusing on the people. It would have made things feel a bit less cheesy in my opinion.
So, I finally got the chance to sit down and watch my dvd.
I'd have to say, now after two watchings, my favorite scene in the movie is the talk between Kit and Paul at the 3/4 mark of the movie. The "I'm gonna be a daddy" scene.
And of course, Land Dog Water Dog.
Um, but one thing, since I've had the soundtrack for so long, I was listening for the songs, and didn't hear Beautiful Stars. Anybody remember when it's in the flick???
I just saw this flick last night (for the first time) and was completely blown away. The performances, the scenes (each like a painting or vignette)...all were just fucking fantastic.
My favorite scene would have to be the bar scene...you'll find my fave quote at the bottom of my posting.....
Quote from: SoNowThenDo you know him?
yes, intimately.
in the biblical sense??
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well, i'm not one to besmirch a fair maiden's name..
Quote from: SoNowThenSo, I finally got the chance to sit down and watch my dvd.
I'd have to say, now after two watchings, my favorite scene in the movie is the talk between Kit and Paul at the 3/4 mark of the movie. The "I'm gonna be a daddy" scene.
And of course, Land Dog Water Dog.
Um, but one thing, since I've had the soundtrack for so long, I was listening for the songs, and didn't hear Beautiful Stars. Anybody remember when it's in the flick???
I don't think it's in it unfortunately...I love that fucking song..."Streets were Raining" too, that's my favorite one and I don't think it was in the movie either...I don't remember for sure though.
it's in the credits and on the soundtrack... I'm confused...
ok, I saw this last night, went through an ordeal to get it (finally ended up going to blockbusters, which had 6 copies), and I really enjoyed it, but I think towards the end I sort of lost focus and didn't really get certain parts (ie, the scene where he goes to her house and the stupid guy's making macaroni or whatever, and then their discussion). I definitely need to watch this a second time, and if I have time I'll check out the extras and commentary. It makes me really want to see George Washington, too, which I recently went through an ordeal to find that not one video store in this town carries it on DVD (my vcr is currently fucked up, and I'd rather watch the DVD anyway).
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Answer me this then: Why does Noel, after having expressed that Paul was the only guy she wanted to spend more than five minutes with, lets him in on her 'fish hook' story, and trusts with her viginity secret, decide to "cheat" on him, and herself? To me, it seemed a plot device to get at what you guys are fawning over. She says after that, she knew she loved him, but I don't believe that. She loved him before that.
See, to me this was the whole point of the movie. I've been there in real life... this kinda shit happens ALL the time. I felt the relationship buildup... I placed the couple on a pedestal... and then she goes and does the unthinkable for no good reason at all and tries to tell him she loves him. I felt that pain all over again for a bit.
Not only that, but they nailed the transformation perfectly. Before the confession scene I held Noel in a certain light and just like Paul says, afterwards it feels like shes a stranger. I wish they had focused on that for the last part of the movie instead of Paul's gradual acceptance and final river scene. That whole part really seemed fake to me.
I think my problem with the movie is that enough of it hit me so personally that I wanted it to end a certain way. It seems like they decided to make the ending about the big picture when I wish they would have stuck to focusing on the people. It would have made things feel a bit less cheesy in my opinion.
I couldn't agree with you more. This pretty much nails my perspective on the film and how it hit me personally as well so I'll just simply agree with MF.
That DGG has got himself quite the career ahead of him.
I rented this movie along with Bowling For Columbine on Tuesday and incidentally it was All the Real Girls that I was thinking about the next day. I can see why some people love this movie (like I did) and I can see how some people hate it or have some problems with it.
I probably wouldn't have known to check out All the Real Girls (or George Washington for that matter) if not for this site so I'm glad you people appreciate good films and try to get others to appreciate them too. And it's great to see that there are very few Kevin Smith fans here. That's always a bonus. :-D
Quote from: Jake_82ok, I saw this last night, went through an ordeal to get it (finally ended up going to blockbusters, which had 6 copies), and I really enjoyed it, but I think towards the end I sort of lost focus and didn't really get certain parts (ie, the scene where he goes to her house and the stupid guy's making macaroni or whatever, and then their discussion). I definitely need to watch this a second time, and if I have time I'll check out the extras and commentary. It makes me really want to see George Washington, too, which I recently went through an ordeal to find that not one video store in this town carries it on DVD (my vcr is currently fucked up, and I'd rather watch the DVD anyway).
What about it didn't you get? He saw that she was moving on and he was bitter about it (hence him smashing the car window)...and they parted as amicably as possible. That scene really really resonated with me. Anyway, that's just my take on it.
Impressions off first viewing - Really liked it. I not only identified with what the movie said, I believed it got across the idea of love well. The story was simpler than GW but going for getting across a feeling - which it did. That said, I have complaints. It mainly addresses DGG's style and storylines according to it. With GW, scenes of confession in characters rang true because the focus was so intense and movie unidentifiable in what it was trying to be that it felt authentic. With this movie, clearly going for the simplistic, confessional scenes feel more like conveniances in the director's style than anything else. The two confessional scenes are of the best friend and mom to Paul. The film is so identifiable in what it is about that instead on following on its simpler narrative, it tries to extend in ways GW did. It doesn't work. The points it hammers are easy to see coming and easy to understand in this world already. Then there are moments of embarassing sincerity for these guys. Some hold well to showing Paul, some seem inserted just because they felt odd. The stock car racing scene is the most obvious. It easily could have been in a lesser film. Other moments just seem to be about little or nothing but their own quarkiness. Its just that the movie could have discarded with so many characters and situations that feel like an operation of a directors style more than anything else. This movie is too easy going in DGG's style than what GW presented.
All in all, I really liked the film more because I believed in the characters and identified with what it was talking about in love. Its not one of the best this year and only will be seen as a really good film likely for me. There could have just been so much more attempted in this film.
~rougerum
did it bother anyone else that in one scene the characters would act borderline mentally retarded and then in the next scene they'd be spouting off poetic philosophy?
also, the baraka "inspired" mill montage was kind of lame.
other than that, i liked it.
Quote from: abuck1220the baraka "inspired" mill montage was kind of lame.
I think I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one, mostly that any moment in this film was Baraka-inspired.
If you're referring to any moment of sped-up photography or something, or even the use of landscapes and factories (or mills, as you've mentioned) I think that'd be better atributed to the director's personal vision.
Now if you want to say it was Mallick-inspired, I think we can get a discussion going...
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I will have to support abuck1220 for a second and say that DGG and Paul do mention Baraka by name in the commentary sometime during that montage. They say something about it, I don't remember exactly what and I don't remember exactly when (I think it's during the downward tilt on the mill)...but I'm just saying. I've never seen Baraka so I can't really give my own thoughts on whether or not it influenced ATRG so I won't try to...I've been dying to see it ever since PTA mentioned it though and I definitely will soon. I've been thinking about buying it blindly actually.
Anyway, on the contrary...I'm going to have to strongly disagree with him that the montage is lame, it fucking rocks. It shows that life goes on no matter how heartbroken you are, the world doesn't stop for anyone...everything still keeps going. And you can't tell me I'm wrong this time cause they said all that in the commentary too. And it makes sense to me so I'm stealing it.
Quote from: jokerspathQuote from: abuck1220the baraka "inspired" mill montage was kind of lame.
I think I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one, mostly that any moment in this film was Baraka-inspired.
If you're referring to any moment of sped-up photography or something, or even the use of landscapes and factories (or mills, as you've mentioned) I think that'd be better atributed to the director's personal vision.
Now if you want to say it was Mallick-inspired, I think we can get a discussion going...
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well, then i think the director's personal vision was influenced by baraka, which uses almost identical sped-up photography in factory-type settings. you could throw all the real girls' mill scene into the middle of the chicken factory scenes in baraka (if you're familiar w/ the film) and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the footage. not saying it's wrong or anything, just my opinion.
and yes, he's certainly influenced by malick.
that mill montage was amazing.
looks almost like three shots superimposed on one another. is it three, or just two?
anyway, the whole sequence is great...
Quote from: ebeamanI will have to support abuck1220 for a second and say that DGG and Paul do mention Baraka by name in the commentary sometime during that montage. They say something about it, I don't remember exactly what and I don't remember exactly when...but I'm just saying.
But I strongly disagree with him that the montage is lame, it fucking rocks. It shows that life goes on no matter how heartbroken you are, the world doesn't stop for anyone...everything still keeps going. And you can't tell me I'm wrong this time cause they said all that in the commentary too. And it makes sense to me so I'm stealing it.
well, i hadn't watched the commentary, so that's certainly interesting.
maybe "lame" was a poor choice of words on my part. it was just so identical to baraka that i couldn't believe it. i mean literally, there would be no way to differentiate between the two films' footage.
so, while the footage itself wasn't lame...i was just disappointed that it was just so blatantly copied. however, i guess if you admit to stealing (as he might have done in the commentary) then i guess it counts as an homage and not thievery! :-D
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well, i hadn't watched the commentary, so that's certainly interesting.
maybe "lame" was a poor choice of words on my part. it was just so identical to baraka that i couldn't believe it. i mean literally, there would be no way to differentiate between the two films' footage.
Ooooook, I see what your saying, alright, that makes sense. I'll have to see Baraka then. I'm definitely going to buy it blindly. Yea, if you saw the influence on your own without even listening to the commentary, it was probably an intended homage or stolen shot, lol...which is fine with me.
By the way SoNowthen, do you like Baraka??? I need one last reason to put up the money for it.
saw the first 20 minutes of it in the middle of the insanity of shooting my short film two weeks ago
i was over-tired and not really concentrating
it's one of those things you have to be in the mood for
looks beautiful though
i would bb it if i were you, it's got merits for sure
one day i will revist and get through it all
i looked all around last Tuesday but couldn't find it anywhere. then i decided i wanted to revisit Adaptation and i was shocked to find ATRG (in the Hasting's that also shockingly has GW).
i like it a lot more than GW. or at least i could see me watching this repeated times, while i'm not sure i could GW (i'm the same way with Magnolia......it's kind of a hard street to go down again). i don't think this film is really "all out there." i think it could find a moderate mainstream audience if promoted the right way.
3 scenes i've watched again.
1. the clown scene (just funny and nice editing...great last look into the camera)
2. the bowling alley (again just funny.....i'm going to have to use that trick)
3. the bar/nature scene (just really good acting/monologue)
i didn't really like Paul Schneider(sp?) in GW, but i really liked him in this. i was hoping he was in Undertow and playing a killer or something........that would have been cool, but i just read the article at the first of this post and he's not even mentioned.
it starts out a lot like GW with the kind of wasteland suburban scenery, group of friends around railroads tracks, and odd adults pounding away at metal things........but it gets really zany at times........i'm going to watch the commentary soon and prob watch it on Labor Day.
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2. the bowling alley (again just funny.....i'm going to have to use that trick)
What trick was that?
Quote from: bigideasi looked all around last Tuesday but couldn't find it anywhere. then i decided i wanted to revisit Adaptation and i was shocked to find ATRG (in the Hasting's that also shockingly has GW).
i like it a lot more than GW. or at least i could see me watching this repeated times, while i'm not sure i could GW (i'm the same way with Magnolia......it's kind of a hard street to go down again). i don't think this film is really "all out there." i think it could find a moderate mainstream audience if promoted the right way.
I definitely agree, it's a much more accessible film than GW. That's part of the reason I'm starting to like it more than GW. It's more polished, it's more cinematic and it's even more beautiful while still being real. It's just like, more of a movie...I think it's one of the best sophomore films ever. I think people like Wes Anderson are making films that are 10 times more quirky than ATRG...and that's great...a lot of the awkwardness in ATRG seems to be mistaken for weirdness a lot of the time, when it's actually very real.
QuoteWhat trick was that?
I'm not sure if it's what he's talking about but there's a killer, perfectly timed fade out that ends the scene.
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2. the bowling alley (again just funny.....i'm going to have to use that trick)
What trick was that?
oh. i meant the whole "i want to dance, but i don't want you to look at me" thing. a trick on a lady, not a camera trick.
of course i think that would be difficult since bowling lanes are extremely slippery......they must not have oiled it........no way he could have done the running man on an oiled lane
Quote from: abuck1220Quote from: jokerspathQuote from: abuck1220the baraka "inspired" mill montage was kind of lame.
I think I'm gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you on this one, mostly that any moment in this film was Baraka-inspired.
If you're referring to any moment of sped-up photography or something, or even the use of landscapes and factories (or mills, as you've mentioned) I think that'd be better atributed to the director's personal vision.
Now if you want to say it was Mallick-inspired, I think we can get a discussion going...
aw
well, then i think the director's personal vision was influenced by baraka, which uses almost identical sped-up photography in factory-type settings. you could throw all the real girls' mill scene into the middle of the chicken factory scenes in baraka (if you're familiar w/ the film) and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the footage. not saying it's wrong or anything, just my opinion.
and yes, he's certainly influenced by malick.
My apologies...
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A lot of people are saying that All the Real Girls is a great and better movie than GW because it is more focused on a plot that is more alligned to a better thought out movie. I disagree completely. Green's talent in acquiring naturalism seems ill fated for a movie that can be easier alligned to a genre. One of the problems of ATRG is that is easy to assign to a known story and much of the story is known; its just that through its style and talent that the film achieves the feeling of love and heartbreak it is going for. Its just that so much of the story is known that instead of avvoiding much of it and digging deeper into the unkown like GW, it tells it story like we know it. All of the great qualities in naturalism in GW is repeated in ATRG and almost made to conveniances. The heavy use of funny and odd moments between characters; confessional scenes by minor characters that are big revelations onto who they are; focus on the minor moments. All these things when used for something like GW in a story harder to identify genre wise and more natural, really works. Its just with ATRG, the story seems more thought out in the process of movie making that these stylistic things which feel so natural come off as the worst possible thing for Green, just devices of his own style.
~rougerum
This is mostly a shout out to Ebs...
It was late as hell last night. I had just finished the last two Decalogue episodes. Had to get up early and go to work, yet didn't feel like sleeping. Popped in All The Real Girls. Funny enough, on first viewing I had it in my top 10 all time, but even though I still love it, I don't think it places on my top 30 anymore. At any rate, an amazing film nonetheless. The one part that really struck me this time was when Paul and Zooey had their first long conversation in her room, and she asked him what he wanted, and his reply was something like "I just hope that we can meet each other in a million years and I can still see your face, and we have amazing things to say to each other".
Damn, that's...
just fucking perfect.
Did anybody notice the slight Herzog-ism in this flick? The whole small town lonely auto mechanic with a toothache gave me the old Stroszek feeling...
So, I finally got this from Netflix and watched it last night.
I thought the whole thing was a little heavy handed and repetative. We got it. We got it. You can write dialogue where your characters say interesting things about why they are madly in love. So, what am I watching? Is there a story here that I'm supposed to be interested in? Because, I've seen this before.
Whats up with all the FI/FO? Is this some sort of experimental film project or something? I mean, if you are going to do something different, don't make it a distraction. All of those FI/FO were really distracting. I got the feeling that the director was like,
"Hey. I know how to make this film different. We could put in lots of FI/FO!"
- You mean like, to signal the end of an act, right?
"No man! We'll put them all over the place."
I donno guys. I wanted to like it. There was stuff that worked for me. Overall though, I felt like I was watching somebody making a student film right after breaking up with his girlfriend.
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i don't have any intellectual thoughts to add, but i just bought it 2 weeks ago at Hasting's for $7.99........so if your Hasting's had a few copies to rent, you might check the Used DVD section.......oddly enough, at this store ATRG was in the Foreign section
Quote from: MyxomatosisOverall though, I felt like I was watching somebody making a student film right after breaking up with his girlfriend.
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Being a huge fan of the film, maybe that's part of the charm. I never thought of it that way before, but it could be.
So I normally don't really geek out too much over things like this, but I am currently visiting Asheville, NC, where this movie was shot, and I'm enjoying seeing the locations that I recognize. A lot of it I can't really tell for sure, because the movie doesn't have a lot of easily identifiable locations. But I definitely went to where the racetrack scene was filmed. I want to go to the bowling alley.