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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: how would you rank his films so far?
« Last post by d on Today at 03:26:08 PM »
I've been reading the forums for some time now but only decided to register recently. This is not my first post but let me share my list as a formal hello. PTA is definately my favourite living filmmaker.

Absolutely adore:
1. The Master (probably my all time fav, definitely in my top3)
2. Inherent Vice (would never undestand why IV is so underrated even among PTA fans; as a whole it may not be perfect but individual scenes, lines, cinematography, acting, use of music all feel so great)

Love
3. Magnolia
4. Boogie Nights (I love it, it's fun to watch, some great scenes but just feels too long and repetitive in the last act... and I kinda hate the Dirk Diggler fake home videos)
5. Punch-Drunk Love


Respect:
6. TWBB (yeah, it's my IV; I absolutely understand why even not big PTA fans consider it one of the best movies ever but I just don't get it, I would really like to love it but I just can't, which is strange considering how much more I love The Master and IV than his (still great) eariler work.
7. Hard Eight

I can't imagine Phantom Thread is better than The Master but judging from your opinions I believe it may rank just below The Master or Vice.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread
« Last post by Just Withnail on Today at 02:17:54 PM »
Nice. There aren't really any plot spoilers there, but it certainly revealed a side of DDL's performance that hasn't been seen in the trailers.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Phantom Thread
« Last post by csage97 on Today at 02:06:13 PM »
New clip here. There is some dialogue, which could be considered lightly spoilerish, so don't watch if you want to go into the movie fresh. http://ew.com/movies/2017/12/15/phantom-thread-daniel-day-lewis-vicky-krieps-clip/
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Inherent Vice - SPOILERS!
« Last post by csage97 on Today at 01:19:53 PM »
I don't agree. If you really dislike IV, I don't see why you would enjoy the book.
^^ Pretty much. Insofar as PTA's film is a successful adaptation, the book may have more "scenes" and anecdotes to the characters, but the feeling of elusiveness + Californian anxieties is the same.

I have to disagree with you here. The book is a different experience (though similar in lots of ways, of course), as it often is when compared to a film adaptation. It's cartoonish in a different way and more lyrical. Despite making Sortilege the narrator in the movie, the book really gives you the experience of Pynchon's prose and idiosyncratic description, which is something in itself. There are way more driving scenes and general talk about the LA landscape in the book. (I was disappointed in the lack of establishing shots and general terrain/LA cityscape shots with the film.) There's a sort of vastness to the literal space of the book, insofar as LA is a large and diverse city, which is missing from the movie. The movie feels more claustrophobic; the book feels vast and open and at times claustrophobic. I was actually really surprised at the lack of camera movement in the film; it seemed like PTA was the perfect director to use this as a way to mirror Pynchon's sprawling prose, and I feel like an opportunity was lost there.

I think PTA was faithful to the book and did a really good job, BUT the center of the film is put more on the relationship between Shasta and Doc. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, but Shasta is just one thematic and plot point in the book. The concept of inherent vice is explored through more avenues in the book and equal weight is given to the end of the sixties/the end of Doc's fabled time and place as is given to Shasta. (Shasta seems to stand in as more of a plot driver and metaphor in the novel. I could get into the thematics further and write a whole article on it, but I'm going to stop there to save time and space.)

Anyway, my point isn't to try to shoot you guys down or give you less credit. I'm happy to discuss these things here and it's all enjoyable. I'm going to have to say that the novel is more sprawling and funnier (yes, there were funny moments in the film, but you just can't totally capture the syntactic and subtle humour of Pynchon via film: the silly puns, and endless movie and pop culture references). There's a level of literary depth to the novel and to Pynchon that just can't be accessed via film. This is NOT a knock on PTA, but just a limit of the medium. Pynchon's signature layers of references to pop culture, music, movies, history, politics, science, sociopolitical geography, and just about anything under the sun just can't be included in the movie, and if you're into this mode of layers, the book as a medium is unparalleled. I will also just reiterate that Pynchon's unique voice is something for me on its own, as is PTA's unique voice, and I enjoy the book on the level alone, as I likewise enjoy the film on that level alone. They are similar but two different things in many ways and on many levels.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Inherent Vice - SPOILERS!
« Last post by WorldForgot on Today at 12:46:27 PM »
I don't agree. If you really dislike IV, I don't see why you would enjoy the book.

^^ Pretty much. Insofar as PTA's film is a successful adaptation, the book may have more "scenes" and anecdotes to the characters, but the feeling of elusiveness + Californian anxieties is the same.
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News and Theory / Re: Miscellaneous trailers
« Last post by jenkins on Today at 12:40:25 PM »
Hell Comes to Frogtown is the name of a movie and this is its trailer

trailer 1 is kind of aggressive



trailer 2 is less aggressive but its resolution is worse



a scene from the movie



it's a thing. here's a Mad Max/Frogtown trailer



fyi
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Inherent Vice - SPOILERS!
« Last post by Drenk on Today at 11:59:06 AM »
I don't agree. If you really dislike IV, I don't see why you would enjoy the book.
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This Year In Film / Re: Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
« Last post by eward on Today at 11:15:40 AM »
Jesus this was rough going. I felt absolutely nothing the entire run time. And I very much enjoyed The Force Awakens, but perhaps I was simply overjoyed to see the original cast all back and functioning in a semi-familiar way? This was just lazy and cobbled together. My interest in seeing the next one is pretty much zero at this point.
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Paul Thomas Anderson / Re: Inherent Vice - SPOILERS!
« Last post by Mogambo on Today at 10:51:46 AM »
PTA loved La La Land
https://theplaylist.net/paul-thomas-anderson-phantom-thread-20171215/

And directed Inherent Vice.  (But I'm trying not to hold either against him.)   :yabbse-wink:

Another interview with Mark Bridges:

Clothes Make The Characters In ‘Phantom Thread’ – The Contenders Video
https://deadline.com/2017/12/paul-thomas-anderson-phantom-thread-costumes-video-1202227537/


The only reason I got into reading Pynchon was because I heard PTA was adapting it in 2013 (I was 16). He's probably my top 5 authors now and I can assure you, having read the book before watching the movie, the movie is very much a companion piece to the book, rather than the story filtered through PTA's worldview. Read the book. Read the book! Can't emphasize this enough. I think the only reason you don't like the movie is because you aren't familiar with Pynchon, and this is the only PTA movie where the story isn't PTA's unique worldview, but it's rather him honoring someone else's voice. I read the book, which has a very complex plot and several more characters and digressions than the movie, and made a mind map in my diary to keep up with what was going on. I was very surprised when Doc did the same thing on a white board in the movie. Read the book if you want to truly enjoy the movie.
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News and Theory / Re: Best movie posters
« Last post by Hibborandum on Today at 05:03:32 AM »
Deadpool had some of the best posters ever, can't wait to see what they'll come up with for Deadpool second coming, here seems to be a taste.



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