yeah im not sure what i think of it either. it really doesnt seem like a step forward does it? i was very super into these guys all through high school, but after a 4 year wait between albums, (im now graduated from college and in a very different place.) im not sure i would have much room for them even if it was better. i still think AROUND THE FUR is my favorite although WHITE PONY was a step in a very interesting direction and yielded some really great songs. this one, im not so sure about. cool cover art though.