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Started by pete, April 17, 2010, 04:04:27 PM

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the one last hit that spent you...

pete

third season starts out solid as fuck!
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

diggler

That tablecloth scene was classic.
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Brando

Excellent beginning to the third season.  I loved how they set up everything to build toward that ending. 
If you think this is going to have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.

pete

this is an underrated show, no?
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

Pubrick

I can't believe it's still going.

I never bothered stealing it cos I thought it got canceled after one season.

Its resilience has earned it one curious download.
under the paving stones.

pete

if you were to steal an episode, I'd go with season 2 episode one.
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

diggler

It took about half of the first season to really get going, but the second season was great. It has some of the most effortless dialogue on television.
I'm not racist, I'm just slutty

Pubrick

Quote from: pete on April 11, 2012, 03:30:03 AM
if you were to steal an episode, I'd go with season 2 episode one.

Won't that ruin the first season?
under the paving stones.

diggler

I enjoyed the first season, it has a slow start but it really gains steam and has an awesome finale. It's not entirely necessary I guess but it's important to understand character relationships, specifically Raylan and Boyd's.
I'm not racist, I'm just slutty

pete

Quote from: Pubrick on April 12, 2012, 12:37:24 AM
Quote from: pete on April 11, 2012, 03:30:03 AM
if you were to steal an episode, I'd go with season 2 episode one.

Won't that ruin the first season?

it might ruin some stuff; but I think if you were to give the show just one shot, then the 2nd season opener is the one to judge it by. the first season is still very episodic and action-oriented. but sure, watch the pilot, it's good.
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

Brando

I believe the first episode of this season is the best episode of the entire series. I thought that after seeing it and still believe it to be true. After seeing the first first episode of this season, I had high expectations for the seasons. After seeing the entire series, it didn't live up to my expectations. I thought this season's writing was great and have no problems with the writing. I thought the writing stayed away from any cliches and expectations with the expected storyline of one would expected from Quarles. So in the end, I didn't think the scope of this season was big enough. Last season you had a family feud against the mining company and it kept getting bigger. This season seemed small against Raylon and some crazy gangster from Detroit. It's hard to understand but hope that makes sense.  Maybe later I can make it clearer.
If you think this is going to have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.

pete

I think that's a staple in Elmore Leonard's stories though; in which the lowlives end up being the most dangerous while the kingpins or whatever are just kinda boring run of the mill type guys - like the casino owner and his drug kingpin buddy in Glitz were just typical douchebags while it was the little pervert who ended up doing most damage, or the millionaire rapist in Freaky Deaky ended up just some sorry dude while a bunch of hasbeen hippies were the true villains. Jackie Brown and Get Shorty and Out of Sight can all be seen the same way. In the last season as well - the mining company in the end was just a decoy and the hillbillies ended up being the most serios threats.

And I'm also assuming that it's setting up for the upcoming seasons.
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

Brando

Quote from: pete on April 21, 2012, 10:52:42 PM
I think that's a staple in Elmore Leonard's stories though; in which the lowlives end up being the most dangerous while the kingpins or whatever are just kinda boring run of the mill type guys - like the casino owner and his drug kingpin buddy in Glitz were just typical douchebags while it was the little pervert who ended up doing most damage, or the millionaire rapist in Freaky Deaky ended up just some sorry dude while a bunch of hasbeen hippies were the true villains. Jackie Brown and Get Shorty and Out of Sight can all be seen the same way. In the last season as well - the mining company in the end was just a decoy and the hillbillies ended up being the most serios threats.

And I'm also assuming that it's setting up for the upcoming seasons.

I agree with all that. I have no problems with the writing. I love their choice villains and their portrayal of all the characters. I thought the scope of the entire plotline for the third season didn't live up to my expectations after the second. In second season, there seemed to be a lot more plot lines creating a bigger scope. You had a the Bennettes, their drug trade, their feud with Raylan, towns feud with the mining co, attempted assassination of a mining representative, Winona stealing money, Boyd being Boyd, the girl and her murdered father, so on..  I don't think were nearly as much or as big plots in the third season.

I liked how they handled the plot lines for the third season. I loved how the plot line of Quarles trying to frame Raylan only lasted one episode. A lesser show would have stretched that out over a few episodes or most of a season.

Also just saw that Eric Stonestreet, Cameron from Modern Family, has been cast for the fourth season.
If you think this is going to have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.

Jeremy Blackman

I finished disc 1 of the first season, and I have to say I'm confused. I guess I was expecting it to be much more intense. Honestly it might come down to the directing, which seems so pedestrian and matter-of-fact. The scenes that should be the most intense or exciting are usually missing even a basic sense of tension, which is just baffling. What's worse is that the shootout/quickdraw scenes are so poorly edited. And so far it's in that treacherous tonal middleground, where it doesn't take itself seriously enough but also isn't funny enough to justify that. Maybe I'm just spoiled, but I was expecting a lot more. Does it get significantly better?