How do you rank his major canon of films?
Paths of Glory
Spartacus
Lolita
Dr. Strangelove
2001: A Space Odyssey
Clockwork Orange
Barry Lyndon
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket
Eyes Wide Shut
My favorites go like this. (I've seen them all.)
1. Clockwork Orange (The dialogue. The music. My god, the music. The visuals! So good..)
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey (What a toss-up! Is this my #1 favorite or is Clockwork Orange? Tough call..)
3. The Shining (I watch this at least once a year.)
4. Eyes Wide Shut (The best looking Kubrick film. Nicole Kidman isn't bad looking either.)
5. Dr. Strangelove ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room.")
6. Paths of Glory (The only Kubrick film that has brought me to tears.)
7. Full Metal Jacket (As soon as the film leaves boot camp, it goes downhill.)
8. Barry Lyndon (Great film. I love the lighting.)
9. Lolita (Bleh. It was alright. Perhaps the only so-so Kubrick film for me.)
10. Spartacus (Too long. Way too long. It is a good film, but I can't watch this again.)
1. Clockwork
2. Full Metal Jacket
3. Barry Lyndon
4. 2001
5. Eyes Wide Shut
6. Dr. Strangelove
7. Paths Of Glory
8. The Shining
9. (haven't seen) Lolita
dr. strangelove (no words to describe)
clockwork orange (no words to describe)
eyes wide shut (no words to describe)
lolita (he had a lot of fucking balls to make this back then, adrian lyne's version cant hold a candle to this one)
barry lyndon (makes me want to play chess for some reason. brilliant.)
2001 (what can i say? brilliant)
the killing (nifty little heist movie, interesting echoes in revervoir dogs to this one i think)
paths of glory (Powerful as hell)
the shining (good overall, but a little too long, stale at some points, and shelley duvall annoys the shit out of me in this one)
full metal jacket (brilliant first half, thought the second half was oddly weak, i dont think modine is a very good actor either, i didnt even like him in short cuts)
killers kiss (i don't know...)
spartacus (i don't think this is very good)
fear and desire (embarassingly bad)
sorry i went outside the canon a little bit.....
I can't see much of a point in ranking his films. He wasn't somebody who would've put too much emphasis on something like this. The guy was nominated for four consecutive Best Director and Best Screenplay Oscars -- and didn't attend a single ceremony.
Suffice it to say, I would lump 2001, Dr. Strangelove, A Clockwork Orange, Barry Lyndon, Full Metal Jacket and Eyes Wide Shut together. They fluctuate in importance for me -- however, I hold firm that 2001 is the single greatest motion picture ever made.
Anybody having problems with FMJ should letterbox it and watch it again. Use black electrical tape. Go to the shot during boot camp where everybody's marching and Gomer Pyle is behind them sucking his thumb. USE THE BOTTOM OF THE GROUP'S FEET AND THE TOPS OF THEIR RIFLES AS YOUR BOUNDARIES. By doing this you'll approximate a 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Watch it like this and you'll shit your pants. Guaranteed.
Quote from: mutinycoUSE THE BOTTOM OF THE GROUP'S FEET AND THE TOPS OF THEIR RIFLES AS YOUR BOUNDARIES. By doing this you'll approximate a 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Watch it like this and you'll shit your pants. Guaranteed.
never thought it would make a difference, but consider my screen taped and gagged!
Quote from: mutinycoI can't see much of a point in ranking his films. He wasn't somebody who would've put too much emphasis on something like this. The guy was nominated for four consecutive Best Director and Best Screenplay Oscars -- and didn't attend a single ceremony.
You do realize that I wasn't asking for a general rank right? I was asking what everyones favorites were. I agree that "best ever" film lists are stupid. But, I don't see any harm in asking somebody, "Hey, you've seen all of Kubrick's films. Which ones do you like the most? Watch the most?" Whatever.
I'd say my favs go in this order....
1. A Clockwork Orange
2. The Shining. Nicholson rules.
3. Full Metal Jacket
4. Eyes Wide Shut
5. Dr. Strangelove
6. Lolita
7. Paths Of Glory
8. 2001
9. Spartacus
10. Barry Lyndon
Wow, he really hasn't made that many films when you think about it....
sphinx apologizes in advance for calling anyone a list-fucker
here's my list!
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TAKE THAT, LIST-FUCKERS!
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here's my list!
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TAKE THAT, LIST-FUCKERS!
Awesome. ;)
It is true Kubrick never gave much thought to lists. That also could be saying all of us who do them here don't really either. Kubrick has been caught publically providing a list of his top ten favorite movies before, even if they weren't really his personal favorites, he did make one in the early 1960s. My own feelings on list making is that they are harmless and since they don't take emphasis for me over explaining a movie, I see nothing wrong.
~rougerum
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Exactly my thoughts.
haven't seen them all....
clockwork
2001: a space odyssey
the shining
full metal jacket
eyes wide shut
barry lyndon
dr. strangelove
spartacus
Clockwork orange
The Shining
2001: Space Odyssey
Full Metal Jacket
Dr. Strangelove
Eyes Wide Shut
I havn't seen the others yet, so I can hardly comment on them, or rank them.
in order:
1. Dr. Strangelove
2. 2001: A Space Odyssey
3. Eyes Wide Shut
4. The Shinning
5. Paths Of Glory
6. Lolita
7. A Clockwork Orange
8. Full Metal Jacket
9. Barry Lyndon
10. The Killing
Quote from: mutinyco
Anybody having problems with FMJ should letterbox it and watch it again. Use black electrical tape. Go to the shot during boot camp where everybody's marching and Gomer Pyle is behind them sucking his thumb. USE THE BOTTOM OF THE GROUP'S FEET AND THE TOPS OF THEIR RIFLES AS YOUR BOUNDARIES. By doing this you'll approximate a 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Watch it like this and you'll shit your pants. Guaranteed.
i have had numerous debates about this subject -- i have still have not found solid proof one way or another -- from what i could find, kubrick wanted full metal in 1.33 -- as well as the shining and ews. i have heard vivian kubrick and the estate assured that the WB dvd release was to stanleys specifications as far as aspect ratios -- others have told me the prior films i mentioned were shot for 1.85 and initially exhibited in 1.85, and it was not till later, that kubrick decided to "remove" teh masks. Does any one have the real story behind this, with valid scources to back it up. i've been going back and forth with this for years now.
any takers? anybody -- you're killin' me here!
Quote from: cowboykurtisany takers? anybody -- you're killin' me here!
I don't have solid proof, but
here (http://groups.google.com.mx/groups?hl=es&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=aspect+ratio&meta=group%3Dalt.movies.kubrick) you may find something, in page two of this google search there's some interesting comments about it, look for comments by posters Gordon Stainforth and David Mullen.
In fact if you have the time, read everything that Gordon
posted (http://groups.google.com.mx/groups?hl=es&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=author:gordonst%40globalnet.co.uk+), there are several Q&A's and he always answered them nicely, don't know if you do but if you don't
GS (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0821586/) was the music editor of The Shining.
8 - The Killing
7 - Spartacus
6 - The Shining
5 - Dr. Strangelove (Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb)
4 - Full Metal Jacket
3 - A Clockwork Orange
2 - 2001: A Space Odyssey
1 - Eyes Wide Shut
Am yet to see Lolita and Barry Lyndon, and I'm sure my list will change accordingly...
See them!
1. Lolita
2. Barry Lyndon
3. A Clockwork Orange
4. The Shining
5. Full Metal Jacket
6. 2001: A Space Odyssey
7. Eyes Wide Shut
8. Dr. Strangelove (Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love The Bomb)
9. Spartacus
Stanley Pubrick...now that's funny
Eyes Wide Shut is my favorite
Followed by Paths of Glory & 2001.
Quote from: squintsStanley Pubrick...now that's funny
useless.
I've only seen 9 of his films so I'll rate those from really good to f'n awseome
9. Barry Lyndon
8. Full Metal Jacket
7. The Killing
6. The Shining
5. Lolita
4. Dr. Strangelove
3. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. Eyes Wide Shut
1. A Clockwork Orange
Still need to see Spartacus, Paths of Glory, and Killer's Kiss
BARRY LYNDON
FULL METAL JACKET
THE SHINING
DR. STRANGELOVE
EYES WIDE SHUT
A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
2001
PATHS OF GLORY
THE KILLING
LOLITA
Quote from: MeatSee them!
1. Lolita
2. Barry Lyndon
Well then, I suppose I should.
I rented Barry Lyndon, Lolita and Paths of Glory from the library today.
Looks like someone's getting bunked from the list after watching these... there can be only 10!
I stared at that conan o'brien avatar for at least ten minutes...so amusing
stupid lists
1. The Shining
2. Eyes Wide Shut
3. Dr. Strangelove
4. Clockwork Orange
5. Paths of Glory
6. 2001
7. Full Metal Jacket
8. Barry Lyndon
9. Lolita
10. Spartacus
u can tell a list sucks when it has clockwork orange near the top.
come back in 5 years.
what do u got against Clockwork Orange?
Everyone knows that Barry Lyndon belongs at the top.
the truth is Paths of Glory, Barry Lyndon, Lolita and Spartacus are the ones i don't own so they haven't had the benefit of repeat viewings. maybe thing will change when i eventually pick them up... but as of now i stand by my list.
Quote from: Jay Tee Emwhat do u got against Clockwork Orange?
nothing.
it was my favorite too. when i was 15.
i just watched Eyes Wide Shut for the first time in about 2 years and it's moved up to #2.
agreed on Barry Lyndon
im going to go try taping my television for 1.85
2001
Full Metal Jacket
Eyes Wide Shut
Barry Lyndon
Dr. Strangelove
The Shining
Paths of Glory
A Clockwork Orange
Lolita
The Killing
in no particular order...
Barry Lyndon
2001
Dr. Strangelove
Eyes Wide Shut
A Clockwork Orange
The Killing
Lolita
Paths of Glory
Full Metal Jacket
The Shining
Quote from: themodernage02in no particular order...
so you're saying there are three Kubrick movies you don't like as much as those ten.
yeah i was kidding. because lists werent being numbered it almost seemed like that. i hate barry lyndon.
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. The Shining
3. Dr. Strangelove
4. Full Metal Jacket
5. Lolita
6. Eyes Wide Shut
7. Paths of Glory
8. Barry Lyndon
9. Spartacus
10. Clockwork Orange
-sl-
Quote from: themodernage02i hate barry lyndon.
i find barry lyndon to be one of Kubricks most engaging and captivating films - what didn't you like about it?
i remember you had mentioned at one point that it was slow - i find it very similar in pacing to all his films.
i only watched it once, but yeah. i just wasnt drawn into the story at all. like i mentioned, i think i have a strong dislike for movies about people in white wigs. i'll probably give it another shot someday since its in the collection, though.
it's no spoon. :yabbse-rolleyes:
I don't know if someone else has already mentioned this, and yes I realize this thread is hella old, but in the Kubrick Archive it says that he composed for 1:1.33 for his later films. So there's that.
Quote from: ShanghaiOrange on March 14, 2006, 08:11:49 PM
I don't know if someone else has already mentioned this, and yes I realize this thread is hella old, but in the Kubrick Archive it says that he composed for 1:1.33 for his later films. So there's that.
yes, this has been mentioned many times before. but just as often no one seems to notice it being said. so here's to another many times of it being said, so that maybe one day ppl will read it.
Quote from: Pubrick on March 15, 2006, 02:55:55 AM
Quote from: ShanghaiOrange on March 14, 2006, 08:11:49 PM
I don't know if someone else has already mentioned this, and yes I realize this thread is hella old, but in the Kubrick Archive it says that he composed for 1:1.33 for his later films. So there's that.
yes, this has been mentioned many times before. but just as often no one seems to notice it being said. so here's to another many times of it being said, so that maybe one day ppl will read it.
I don't know if someone else has already mentioned this, and yes I realize this thread is hella old, but in the Kubrick Archive it says that he composed for 1:1.33 for his later films. So there's that.
rearraanged the order of the bottom 3:
10. Barry Lyndon
9. Spartacus
8. Full Metal Jacket
7. The Shining
6. Killer's Kiss
5. Paths of Glory
4. Eyes Wide Shut
3. Clockwork Orange
2. 2001
1. Dr. Strangelove
after re-reading most of this thread and discovering my ridiculous previous posts i suppose i'll throw out a real list
10. The Shining
9. Eyes Wide Shut (i really haven't seen this enough but from the praise it gets here it will probably makes its way onto the dvd shelf soon.)
8. Spartacus
7. Dr. Strangelove
6. Paths of Glory
5. Barry Lyndon
4. Full Metal Jacket
3. A Clockwork Orange
2. The Killing
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
Quote from: Xidentity Crixax on April 04, 2006, 01:00:01 AM
rearraanged the order of the bottom 3:
10. Barry Lyndon
9. Spartacus
8. Full Metal Jacket
7. The Shining
6. Killer's Kiss
5. Paths of Glory
4. Eyes Wide Shut
3. Clockwork Orange
2. 2001
1. Dr. Strangelove
Killer's Kiss BEFORE The Shining and FMJ? Barry Lyndon #10?? No Lolita???
I don't expect all these lists to be the same... but... could you explain this?
I'll explain it: Worst. Kubrick list. Ever.
Not really EVER cause it doesn't have Clockwork as numero uno.
Quote from: Walrus on April 10, 2006, 01:59:43 PM
Quote from: Xidentity Crixax on April 04, 2006, 01:00:01 AM
rearraanged the order of the bottom 3:
10. Barry Lyndon
9. Spartacus
8. Full Metal Jacket
7. The Shining
6. Killer's Kiss
5. Paths of Glory
4. Eyes Wide Shut
3. Clockwork Orange
2. 2001
1. Dr. Strangelove
Killer's Kiss BEFORE The Shining and FMJ? Barry Lyndon #10?? No Lolita???
I don't expect all these lists to be the same... but... could you explain this?
my guess would be the following: he hasn't
seen a kubrick flick.
i've seen them all.
i like them in this order. it's the order in which i liked viewing/writing about them for class.
i thought he totally raped the concept of nabokov's lolita and that the movie shouldn't have been made with the same title. spartacus should almost be off the list for the same reason, but it's a fucking incredible movie.
i put barry at the end because I didn't enjoy watching it as much as i enjoyed the other ones. i can't come up with a good reason for putting fmj and the killer's kiss in those spots in relation to each other other than i liked writing about it more than about fmj, but i do dig the killer's kiss a lot.
i don't feel the need to justify it past that.
Quote from: Xidentity Crixax on April 11, 2006, 10:10:37 PM
i thought he totally raped the concept of nabokov's lolita and that the movie shouldn't have been made with the same title. spartacus should almost be off the list for the same reason, but it's a fucking incredible movie.
That was part of the interpretation... The Shining AND A Clockwork Orange are on your list... both of which were very warped from their respective books.
Quote from: Walrus on April 13, 2006, 08:14:35 PM
Quote from: Xidentity Crixax on April 11, 2006, 10:10:37 PM
i thought he totally raped the concept of nabokov's lolita and that the movie shouldn't have been made with the same title. spartacus should almost be off the list for the same reason, but it's a fucking incredible movie.
That was part of the interpretation... The Shining AND A Clockwork Orange are on your list... both of which were very warped from their respective books.
i think that the creative license he took with the shining is different from the re-writing he did with lolita. it makes sense that somebody who's so concerned with the fallibility of men would change the emphasis from ghosts to mental sickness. it changes things significantly, but at least makes them more intriguing.
but lolita was changed so much that i felt like he took the basic action of the book, toned it down too much in order to please censors, added too much comic relief in order to distract audiences, and rearranged/omitted very intriguing aspects of the book to make it just a little too neat for my taste.
nabokov wrote the screenplay for lolita.
Quote from: Pubrick on April 15, 2006, 11:53:32 AM
nabokov wrote the screenplay for lolita.
that makes me look stupid, but it doesn't invalidate my reaction to the changes between the book and the movie.
it's not i that i think "books are always better than the movies that are based on them"... i accept that they're different ways of telling a story. in the case of telling this story, i thought that the novel did an infinitely better job than the movie(s).
Quote from: Xidentity Crixax on April 15, 2006, 08:46:46 PM
in the case of telling this story, i thought that the novel did an infinitely better job than the movie(s).
yeah, i agree with that. in fact even kubrick would agree with you. i don't mean to make you look dumb again but he and nabokov DID lament their decision to tone down the story for the censors, but it was the only way they could make it. there was no way they could hav known that maybe in 10 years he could've made the film as explicit as it needed to be.
anyway, lolita is not his best, but you can't blame kubrick for it which is what you were doing. it's probably the most approval he ever received from an author on any adaptation (2001 book and movie were written simultaneously).
i think the bigger problem is that you've got 3 of his top 4 in your bottom 4, under one of his worst and bunched with one that could hardly be called a Kubrick film.
Ok. My last top 10 was a joke having seen all of his movies and rewatching those that I had seen. Let's try this whole top 10 thing again...
10 - Spartacus
9 - Lolita
8 - Paths of Glory
7 - A Clockwork Orange
6 - The Shining
5 - Barry Lyndon
4 - Full Metal Jacket
3 - Dr. Strangelove
2 - 2001: A Space Odyssey
1 - Eyes Wide Shut