I've been thinking a lot about him, he did so much great work in the 80's and early 90's but he never became a household name. I think he needed that one defining role that would of turned him from great actor to movie star, example sam Jackson in pulp fiction, or Kevin spacey in American beauty, mark whalberg boogie nights, George cloony whoever the fuck he played in ER .
I Know for us stuff like Sid Vicious and Drexl Spivey were definitive performances, but they didn't make him a star, and now when i see him in stuff like in Hannibal and the contender, i just get that vibe from him that he may have missed his chance .
one theory im kicking around is that he should of developed a good relationship with a up and coming director . Someone who could of written for him a great part, or at least directed him in one, like in the case of Johnny depp and tim Burton.
maybe his lack of success has something to do with that fact that he got to fuck Uma in her prime, and no man deserves any more good luck then that.
anyways, im just wondering what you guys think about this
His lack of 'success', as far as I can tell, stems mainly from alcohol addiction and a healthy disdain for acting. He seems to have penchant for self-destruction.
I thought Prick Up Your Ears was the film that really established him, in the moderate way he is established. I guess he was never good-looking or safe enough off-screen to play conventional roles so he's ended up in pantomime and off-beat stuff, and being English hasn't helped him to become 'American'. But what's wrong with that? I'm looking forward to that Matthew Bright movie.
Another movie I love him in is Track 29, which I thought was really underrated.
He waz great in The Contender and in JFK as Lee Harvey.
Who can forget this performance?
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americans love brits, how else would you explain our manic love affair with sam neil ???????????????
just this week work began on a new re make of the film superfly with sam neil playing the lead .
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Who can forget this performance?
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my point is he needs 1 right role to knock him out of quirky supporting parts. that one part that will let him shine and show the world who he is , like i said about kevin spacey in american beauty.
manic love affair with sam neil? the old dude in jurassic park? i think the only brit americans can't get enough of is Hugh Grant.
gary oldman rocks. i like him in anything he does, no matter how "small" the part. he isnt a "superstar" i guess cause he doesnt do romantic comedies
Quote from: Butterscotch Jonesmaybe his lack of success has something to do with that fact that he got to fuck Uma in her prime, and no man deserves any more good luck then that.
Lack of success?! Man, you are off your rocker. You're talking about THE Gary Oldman who just finished playing the Devil opposite James Brown AND Clive Owen for a BMW film.
Pssh! If that's not success, what is?
Quote from: cecil b. dementedgary oldman rocks. i like him in anything he does
ehm... the scarlett letter?
5th element 8)
Quote from: Phil MarloweQuote from: cecil b. dementedgary oldman rocks. i like him in anything he does
ehm... the scarlett letter?
hmm, didnt even see that.
Quote from: cecil b. dementedQuote from: Phil MarloweQuote from: cecil b. dementedgary oldman rocks. i like him in anything he does
ehm... the scarlett letter?
hmm, didnt even see that.
you be glad.
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Are you saying good or bad? I love that movie, one of my favourites ever. Costume design superb.
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Are you saying good or bad? I love that movie, one of my favourites ever. Costume design superb.
Yeah. What the hell? I really liked the "5th Element," too.
Gary Oldman is one of the best actors around. My favorite performance of his has got to be this one:
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Love that movie!
One of his best performances and in an equally great movie: "Immortal Beloved".
I'm sure he'll be a household name after millions of kids see him in the next Harry Potter movie.
Why has nobody mentioned THE PROFESSIONAL? Great stuff.
i love fifth element 8)
Quote from: MacGuffinI'm sure he'll be a household name after millions of kids see him in the next Harry Potter movie.
Yes, and therein lies one of the multitudes of things wrong with this world.
His performance in The Professional was cliche work of how an actor always thinks to be great, it has to be overtly dramatic and kinda insane, so the actor is always doing something out of the norm, from talking and walking differently anyways. It could have been a great role, but was pretty bad because it was too blown up of a character compared to the rest of the story and storywise, his character was the result of the movie going from a personal one to an all out action movie that seemed only redeemable because it had an indie look to it. Character could have been fine, but the work of an actor has to determine when to turn it up and when not to. Gary Oldman was acting for a different movie.
~rougerum
Whoa... I'm actually in agreeance with GT on this one.
Gary Oldman can be great, but he needs a strict director. Luc Besson gives Oldman too much freedom. He's just over the top with that whole Pill popping thing.
I liked the performance... actually, I generally like over-the-top performances in implausible movies. Maybe you're just comparing him to Natalie Portman, whose stunning subtle performance was probably the best of her career. In a way, that movie kind of needed a flaboyantly evil Gary Oldman.
For much of the movie, it was walking a plausible line. Compared to most of Besson's other work, this seems very indepedent and focused on the relationship between two people, Jean Reno and Natalie Portman. Oldman's character is a tool to bringing a conflict or problem between that relationship but spirals the movie out of control into a blood fest action movie that had no feeling of being one for 90% of it and was more interesting without it. Oldman's character could have added something, but instead was so big and so loud it took over too much when it was just a minor character.
~rougerum
Homer is strangling Bart because he made a popular cartoon based on him
Bart: [chokes] There's going to be a movie about you.
Homer: [stops choking Bart] Who's going to play me?
Bart: John Goodman.
Homer: [continues choking Bart] Isn't it obvious it should be Gary Oldman?!
:lol:
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This is a picture, taken with a couple of Potter fans, which shows Gary Oldman in costume as Sirius Black on the set of Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. Also shown are Rupert Grint as Ron and Alan Rickman, who plays Professor Snape, out of costume.
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetHis performance in The Professional was cliche work of how an actor always thinks to be great, it has to be overtly dramatic and kinda insane, so the actor is always doing something out of the norm, from talking and walking differently anyways. It could have been a great role, but was pretty bad because it was too blown up of a character compared to the rest of the story and storywise, his character was the result of the movie going from a personal one to an all out action movie that seemed only redeemable because it had an indie look to it. Character could have been fine, but the work of an actor has to determine when to turn it up and when not to. Gary Oldman was acting for a different movie.
~rougerum
read me a bedtime story mommy! taking your words in to consideration you must hate the shining -- i can say that the professional and the shinging are high on my favorites list -- do you hate me? mommy, please, say it ain't so -- i like your bedtime stories so much -- just becuase i disagree with you, doesn't mean you cant breast feed me anymore.
Quote from: cowboykurtisread me a bedtime story mommy! taking your words in to consideration you must hate the shining -- i can say that the professional and the shinging are high on my favorites list -- do you hate me? mommy, please, say it ain't so -- i like your bedtime stories so much -- just becuase i disagree with you, doesn't mean you cant breast feed me anymore.
:yabbse-huh:
The producers of "Dead Fish" said Tuesday that Gary Oldman ("Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban") and Robert Carlyle ("Black and White") would round out the cast for the black comedy thriller.
The duo play alongside Billy Zane ("Titanic"), Jimi Mistry ("The Guru"), Elena Anaya ("Sex and Lucia") and Andrew Lee Potts ("Band of Brothers") in the picture, which started shooting this month on location in London. Directed by Charley Stadler, the movie is billed as a twisting tale of mistaken identities, double-crosses, merciless killers and unrequited love.
Quote from: cowboykurtisQuote from: The Gold TrumpetHis performance in The Professional was cliche work of how an actor always thinks to be great, it has to be overtly dramatic and kinda insane, so the actor is always doing something out of the norm, from talking and walking differently anyways. It could have been a great role, but was pretty bad because it was too blown up of a character compared to the rest of the story and storywise, his character was the result of the movie going from a personal one to an all out action movie that seemed only redeemable because it had an indie look to it. Character could have been fine, but the work of an actor has to determine when to turn it up and when not to. Gary Oldman was acting for a different movie.
~rougerum
read me a bedtime story mommy! taking your words in to consideration you must hate the shining -- i can say that the professional and the shinging are high on my favorites list -- do you hate me? mommy, please, say it ain't so -- i like your bedtime stories so much -- just becuase i disagree with you, doesn't mean you cant breast feed me anymore.
:yabbse-shocked: Hahaha. Love it.
Also love Gary Oldman. Over the top or not, he makes the characters memorable. And damn fun to watch. Whether or not it's the proper way for that movie or not. Obviously the director thought it was the proper way. Gary thought it was the proper way, and he gets paid to think so. I don't believe any of us are in either of that position, so... let's just appreciate the hijinks.
Quote from: MacGuffinOne of his best performances and in an equally great movie: "Immortal Beloved".
agreed.
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I can't wait forPrisoner of Azkaban. I'm probably the only one here who'll ever say this, but I like Harry Potter movies. There, I said it.
Quote from: Chest RockwellI can't wait forPrisoner of Azkaban. I'm probably the only one here who'll ever say this, but I like Harry Potter movies. There, I said it.
lost of ppl hav said it.
yeah, i started a whole thread on em. http://www.xixax.com/viewtopic.php?t=2879
Happy 46th to Gary.
Gary Oldman in The Longest Yard Remake
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
Gary Oldman (Batman Begins, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban) is in talks to join Adam Sandler, Chris Rock and Burt Reynolds in the remake of The Longest Yard, says The Hollywood Reporter.
The original 1974 comedy-drama movie also starred Reynolds, as an incarcerated former pro quarterback who is asked by a sadistic warden (Eddie Albert) to put together a team of inmates to play a team of burly guards.
In the Paramount remake, Sandler will fill Reynolds' boots, Oldman will play the warden, Rock a caretaker and Reynolds a coach. It is being directed by Peter Segal, who most recently worked with Sandler in 50 First Dates.
Morton Hits Out at Oldman
British actress Samantha Morton has hit out at countryman Gary Oldman - for refusing to read a low-budget film script. The In America star, 27, has blasted big-budget actors for being swayed only by cash when choosing their next film role. And is furious her own reputation has suffered simply because she's eager to make honest and credible films. Morton says, "I used to be, and still am, considered very difficult. I think, 'What is difficult?' If I'm put in an uncomfortable environment, I become defensive. We really want Gary Oldman for a part in my next film, River Queen, but we cannot even get him a script because he won't read anything we send him unless we offer him a million. I mean, how sad is that? These actors get people to do everything for them and five years down the line they don't know how to pay their bills or even cook their own food."
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This is a trailer for a real movie which went straight-to-video in 2003, starring Matthew McConaughey, Kate Beckinsale, and Gary Oldman as McConaughey's twin brother. His twin brother who also happens to be a dwarf.
The movie is called "Tiptoes".
I repeat: this is a REAL MOVIE.
By Matthew Bright... which, at the very least, makes it intriguing.
Oh, I'm definitely getting it on DVD.
I think Matthew Bright completely disassociated himself from the movie - he had written what I'm guessing was a pretty biting and unsentimental screenplay that I think was taken away from him during production and turned into....well, that trailer, which looks like it encapsulates the entire movie.
Are there any comprehensive articles on Bright that you know of?
Freeway was pretty great, but it seems like everything he's done so far has been compromised in some regard. If I remember correctly. Freeway 2 and Ted Bundy both have some intriguing moments, but ultimately feel a bit muddled. Not sure if this is Bright's fault, or the fault of their producers.
Though Vincent Gallo did say Bright was a junkie who nodded off during most of the Freeway 2 shoot, so - if he's to be believed - maybe the blame does fall on Bright.
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This is a trailer for a real movie which went straight-to-video in 2003, starring Matthew McConaughey, Kate Beckinsale, and Gary Oldman as McConaughey's twin brother. His twin brother who also happens to be a dwarf.
The movie is called "Tiptoes".
I repeat: this is a REAL MOVIE.
Holy shit, this thing is available to watch on Hulu now. I need to get wasted and watch it sometime.