Is De Palma overrated ?

Started by Pas, May 20, 2003, 09:08:04 AM

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Cecil

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May 20, 2003, 08:23:01 PM
Quote from: Boothsince I almost always like the stuff Cecil B. likes. (Hey, I'm a noob, but a long time lurker :-) )

ooo a stalker. im flatered

Pas

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May 21, 2003, 08:25:22 AM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Ok, this didn't sound right :-) I meant that I read your musical top ten and film top ten, which were similar to mine. Nothing more.

RegularKarate

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May 23, 2003, 10:04:47 PM
Okay... I just got off Femme Fatalle and went looking for a thread about it.

Here I am...

Good movie... terrible ending... can someone tell me how that's not the most retarded ending?  I mean serisously... it blows ass... the rest of the movie builds up to this?  You gave me all that and you're leaving me with this?  What the fuck?

So... someone, please tell me, what the fuck?  Am I missing something?

Cecil

#18
May 23, 2003, 10:37:09 PM
yeah i know.... its like he tried to rip off lynch or something.

godardian

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May 24, 2003, 12:41:10 AM
Quote from: RegularKarateOkay... I just got off Femme Fatalle and went looking for a thread about it.

Here I am...

Good movie... terrible ending... can someone tell me how that's not the most retarded ending?  I mean serisously... it blows ass... the rest of the movie builds up to this?  You gave me all that and you're leaving me with this?  What the fuck?

So... someone, please tell me, what the fuck?  Am I missing something?


If you're De Palma, ya gotta kick it up that extra notch. He's so in love with the movie as dream, and he seems incapable of making a film that doesn't reflect that (even Casualties of War had the Scary Dream Ending, if I recall). That's fine with me- doesn't ruin it at all. He's just fetishizing what he sees as the inherent dream-state of the cinema. If any director successfully integrates the sublime and the ridiculous, it's De Palma.

However, I have a friend who agrees with you and who was almost violently angry as we left the theater. Me, I was grinning.
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MacGuffin

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May 24, 2003, 01:18:46 AM
Quote from: godardianHe's so in love with the movie as dream, and he seems incapable of making a film that doesn't reflect that (even Casualties of War had the Scary Dream Ending, if I recall).

That was a flashback. Fox's character sees a woman that resembles the girl that was raped and that triggers it as he sleeps. It wasn't like the situation didn't happen as in "Femme Fatale's" case.
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modage

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May 25, 2003, 01:17:17 AM
just watched FEMME FATALE as well, thought i would hate it, but came away pleasantly surprised.  i think i liked it quite a lot.  not perfect, but its clear just in his storytelling that he has so much talent, it just bugs me that he gets stuck making sup-par movies a lot of the time.  technically it was really cool to watch, and loaded with ideas, although im not sure i fully loved it, as i can only think of a few movies of his i really enjoyed, it was one of my depalma favorites.
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