Jon Stewart or Bill Maher

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classical gas

November 06, 2003, 02:57:16 PM
I like both of these guys.  They're both very practical and share one big thing in common, which is, they both hate bullshit.  Both of their shows are great too.  I'm not sure which I like better.  Bill Maher has a more seriousness to him, but I like Stewart's goofiness and he really seems to be more intelligent than he tries to be sometimes.  So, does anyone else enjoy these peopleor their shows? and by the way, what's the deal with shortening Maher's show to forty-five minutes and his season only lasted a few months...is someone trying to cancel him?  We need him all year long, now politicians have free reign to act like fools without someone catching them, aside from Stewart.

SoNowThen

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November 06, 2003, 02:59:18 PM
really? all I can think of when I see Maher is bullshit. the last thing we need is more of him...
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Weak2ndAct

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November 06, 2003, 03:12:19 PM
I'm a big Maher fan, and even caught some tapings of Politically Incorrect before it got canned.  When the guy's 'on,' he's fantastic, when he's 'off,' it's a train wreck.  He's a much better conversationalist/moderator than a comedian, some of his stand-up/jokes makes me cringe.  But in a debate, the guy rocks.  Stewart's funny too, but I could never, ever take him seriously.  Too much of a goofball.

classical gas

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November 06, 2003, 03:16:06 PM
Quote from: SoNowThenreally? all I can think of when I see Maher is bullshit. the last thing we need is more of him...

What do you find to be bullshit about him?

Raikus

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November 06, 2003, 04:05:20 PM
Maher's a pompous prick. Stewart is a comedic mastermind.

I don't see any competition here.
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#5
November 06, 2003, 04:19:17 PM
I strongly prefer Stewart. His intelligence equals Maher's (at the very, very least- probably much more so), plus he's much less smug. Maher can bring off some good things sometimes, but his show is a mess more often than not, and you really do get the feeling that he's a prick.
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November 06, 2003, 04:20:51 PM
Quote from: Weak2ndActI'm a big Maher fan, and even caught some tapings of Politically Incorrect before it got canned.  When the guy's 'on,' he's fantastic, when he's 'off,' it's a train wreck.  He's a much better conversationalist/moderator than a comedian, some of his stand-up/jokes makes me cringe.  But in a debate, the guy rocks.  Stewart's funny too, but I could never, ever take him seriously.  Too much of a goofball.

I feel the same way about Maher, and yeah he is a prick too

But you must read Jon Stewart's book Naked Pictures of Famous People if you doubt his genius.
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Ravi

#7
November 06, 2003, 04:45:10 PM
I like them both.  Stewart leans more toward the comedic and Maher is more serious.

I forgot that Stewart wrote a book.  I'll look for it on my next trip to the library.

Jeremy Blackman

#8
November 06, 2003, 08:53:43 PM
Bill Maher is acidic and bitter. John Stewart is amazing, what can I say.

NEON MERCURY

#9
November 06, 2003, 09:20:01 PM
..jon stewart induces laughter
bill maher induces sickness...
carrot top induces death..

meatwad

#10
November 06, 2003, 09:28:34 PM
i was flipping through the channels one day and saw on of those E! Celebrity shows, and they showed Bill Maher coming out of this club with this women who looked like a porn star. And he was acting like a total asshole. He started to bring up politics to all the people taking pictures of him, and the girl with him kept nodding her head, pretending like she knew what was going on.

He just seems like a real arrogant, hollywood type behind the scenes. I guess that just makes me mad

Duck Sauce

#11
November 06, 2003, 09:50:14 PM
i like stewart, not his politics though but he seems like a nice person and hes very funny.

the daily show has been seeming to become a little more politically serious it seems since when it first came on the air, I cant offer any evidence but it just seems like it

Ravi

#12
November 06, 2003, 11:44:14 PM
Quote from: Duck Saucei like stewart, not his politics though but he seems like a nice person and hes very funny.

the daily show has been seeming to become a little more politically serious it seems since when it first came on the air, I cant offer any evidence but it just seems like it

Considering 9/11 and the war in Iraq, I can understand a shift in tone.  I wouldn't say the show has gotten serious, but it has been more hard-hitting and sarcastic in many of the jokes.

What don't you like about Stewart's politics?

Did anyone see that hilarious piece on telemarketing the other day?

Alethia

#13
November 06, 2003, 11:45:54 PM
never heard of maher

Sleuth

#14
November 06, 2003, 11:54:17 PM
Quote from: Ravi
Quote from: Duck Saucei like stewart, not his politics though but he seems like a nice person and hes very funny.

the daily show has been seeming to become a little more politically serious it seems since when it first came on the air, I cant offer any evidence but it just seems like it

Considering 9/11 and the war in Iraq, I can understand a shift in tone.  I wouldn't say the show has gotten serious, but it has been more hard-hitting and sarcastic in many of the jokes.

What don't you like about Stewart's politics?

Did anyone see that hilarious piece on telemarketing the other day?

Yeah, Ed Helms' best work.
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