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« on: June 01, 2005, 09:09:03 AM »
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Warning:  Godfather Part II SPOILERS

Okay, so I need some help with the Godfather Part II.  I've watched it again for the first time in a few years and I'm a little confused for some reason.  It's about a story thread.  This is what I think is the story...

Michael Corleone
Frank Pantanglia
The Rosato Brothers
Hymen Roth

These are the characters my problem deals with.

Frank Patanglia (wrong spelling; the guy with the grey mustache and loud voice) was assassinated in a pub by Hymen Roth and The Rosato Brothers men.  He didn't die, though.  While in the pub, one of the men walks up behind Frank and says "This is for Michael Corleone", making us and Frank think it was Michael who ordered the hit.
We find out later on that Michael didn't order the hit and that Roth and the Rosato Bros were just trying to make Frank think it was Michael.

Questions:

What was all of this over?
Why did they want Frank to think it was Michael?  So it would stir the shit?
Why didn't Frank think it WAS Michael since he was told it was in the pub.

Confused, please help
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« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2005, 09:15:07 AM »
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little known xixax fact: there are other forums besides idle chatter.
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« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2005, 09:16:32 AM »
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yeah i know
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2005, 09:17:02 AM »
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finlayr: how's me irish matey doin? welcome back. i canny help with ye questions there, but probably some other will. cheers.

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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2005, 09:17:43 AM »
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yeah i know

then why did u post this there?

i gave u an out..

..and u pulled urself back in.
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2005, 09:21:38 AM »
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that's scottish mogwai (or maybe you're scottish?)

I posted here in Idle chatter because...this is idle chatter

please don't be one of those asses who goes mad about posting in wrong forums (even though I didn't post in the wrong forum).  There's more important things going on in the world (cough cough american imperialism)
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« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2005, 09:22:57 AM »
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I like pubes
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« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2005, 09:24:02 AM »
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in case u havn't noticed this is now in Other Movies.

idle chatter is the one forum that is not movie related. and, uh, a thread about the Godfather movies (while amazing that there is not one already) i think qualifies as movie talk.

don't go nuts over it, it's a basic message board occurrence.
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« Reply #8 on: June 01, 2005, 09:25:23 AM »
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you didn't tell them about my pubes did ye?
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« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2005, 02:38:27 PM »
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getting back to your question, what i never understood was why it would matter that they frame michael corleone for the hit if they're just going to kill frank anyway? the fact that he lives is coincidental.

feel free to insult my intelligence with what is probably an obvious answer
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« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2006, 01:02:34 PM »
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Paramount prepping new Godfather?
Source: Moviehole

Remember those rumours about a possible “Godfather 4”? Remember how they said it would star Anthony LaPaglia, and be filmed in his native Australia? Well, those rumours were a pile of horse dun… apparently.

The good news is - there might be another “Godfather” film – or two.

Thanks to the success of the book “The Godfather Returns” – and the newly commissioned “The Godfather’s Revenge” – Paramount have decided to try and transfer those literary beauties to the big screen. Though the studio snapped up the rights to the books – both written by Mark Winegardner – quite a few months back, its only this month that “Returns and Revenge films seem to have been ramped up to active -development status – meaning they’ll probably get underway within the next year” a rat within the ranks at the studios, tells Moviehole. “I don’t think the new film is going to be done in Australia [though], no”.

The casting problem with “The Godfather Returns” is that the story is set between “The Godfather” and “The Godfather II” – yep, its been quite a few years since Al Pacino and company gave life to those characters, so it’d be almost impossible to fluke it with CGI – so unless someone can turn back the clock…

“They’ll re-cast naturally”, the studio leak says. “I guess you’ll notice it about as much as Brandon Routh stepping in for Christopher Reeve in Superman [Returns] – a film that was supposedly set between Superman II and Superman III. Difference being here of course, all the characters will probably be recast”.

The second film, “Godfathers Revenge”, will much easier to cast because it’s a “prequel, about how Tommy Hagen came to shack up with the Corleone’s”.

No word whether Andy Garcia will get a look-in in any of the films, but the actor, who co-starred in “The Godfather Part III”, said recently that he’s surprised Paramount haven’t done anything “Godfather” sooner. "The irony and fascination for me is that - with all the movies Paramount takes risks on each year - they have this franchise people are desperate to see and they won't green-light it”, said Garcia. (Garcia was said to have suggested to director Francis Ford Coppola that Leonardo Di Caprio play Sonny Corleone in a “Godfather” prequel).

Here’s my two-bob : I see the films happening, but I see them being VERY different beasts, - almost disparate - to the original films. They may feature the same characters, they may even retread over familiar territory, but they’ll be more contemporary re-working’s if anything. I guess, in some respects, they have to be – today’s main cinema-going audience weren’t even around – and I’m predicting eight out of ten 17-year-olds haven’t even seen the original films – when Brando presented us with an offer we “couldn’t refuse” all those years ago.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2006, 02:10:55 PM »
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Only good things can come of this.

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2006, 09:07:15 PM »
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No, very bad things could come of this. I'm not ruling out the possibility of these being good films but strike one: return. Strike two: revenge. Comparing it in any way, shape, or form to Superman returns only enhances my skepticism. If Coppola helms, I'll be more inclined to cough up ticket money. If not, they better get a director I already have a great respect for or I might just skip these things altogether.

Who am I kidding? I'll see them no matter what. But they still might suck balls.
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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2006, 11:13:37 PM »
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Only good things can come of this.

No, very bad things could come of this.

Here, I got you a sarcasm detector.


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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2006, 11:47:02 AM »
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Thank you. Tough to detect otherwise. And you never know 'round here. There are people genuinely excited about spiderman3.
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