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« on: May 17, 2003, 12:35:45 PM »
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I've heard whisperings that we may get a new Special Edition, since the old dvd is oop. Anybody confirm?
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2003, 12:39:32 PM »
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I've been hearing this for quite a while, but I still don't see any immediate sign.

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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2003, 02:03:39 PM »
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I've heard whisperings that we may get a new Special Edition, since the old dvd is oop. Anybody confirm?


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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2003, 02:37:31 PM »
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What I found from a exclusive "Scarface" site:

What's up with the DVD being out of print!
Apparently this has been discontinued and now commands a very high price! Word is they are going to release a new edition (although they currently deny it), but I haven't heard when. Most likely later in 2003.
If you see a "Scarface DVD" on ebay or other online auctions, or amazon marketplace, be sure it's the real DVD, not a VCD or asian bootleg. I've seen some sold as "DTS DVD" but I've never heard of Scarface released as DTS, so I doubt they're legit.
 
How many times is the word fuck said in Scarface?
Okay, I needed a definitive answer and I finally got around to it. No where on the www could I find a total I trusted. One site said 206, but I counted 218. I counted the other curses, too, with closed-captioning on. (I counted more than was in the subtitles). I don't know about the Blink 182 theory, that they got "182" fuck's from the film, but someone suggested that maybe it was the number of times Tony himself said it rather than everyone combined. Or maybe they took 218 and moved the 2 to the end to make 182?
218 "fucks" in a 170 minute movie!

Here's the breakdown:

Fuck: 218 (Fucking, 101; Fuck, 99; Fucked, 12; Fucker, 2; Motherfucker, 4)
Shit: 19
Bullshit: 4
Cocksucker: 7
Ass: 9
Asshole: 8
Son of a bitch: 5
Bitch: 1
Pussy: 4
Prick: 2
Bastard: 1

That's 278 total curses -- one every 36 seconds!
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2003, 03:10:45 PM »
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When it is re-released, I think the main features will be a remastered picture and in DTS rather than more extras.
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2003, 03:11:21 PM »
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how dated is the soundtrack to this movie?
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2003, 03:23:48 PM »
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how dated is the soundtrack to this movie?


De Palma always has the cheesiest music in his movies- I always think of the field-exercise scene in Carrie- 'cos I think he's always trying to be really contemporary. Which, 20 years later, can be pretty obvious.

I like Debbie Harry, though. Maybe "Rush Rush" is just cheesy eighties synth-pop, but I think it's at least as good as "Call Me" (my least favorite Blondie song after "The Tide is High"), and we are talking about the man who directed a music vid for Frankie Goes to Hollywood.
""Money doesn't come into it. It never has. I do what I do because it's all that I am." - Morrissey

"Lacan stressed more and more in his work the power and organizing principle of the symbolic, understood as the networks, social, cultural, and linguistic, into which a child is born. These precede the birth of a child, which is why Lacan can say that language is there from before the actual moment of birth. It is there in the social structures which are at play in the family and, of course, in the ideals, goals, and histories of the parents. This world of language can hardly be grasped by the newborn and yet it will act on the whole of the child's existence."

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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2003, 03:42:01 PM »
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how dated is the soundtrack for boogie nights? as long as it works for the story.

anyway, no wonder those netflix motherfuckers dont have it. how can a classic like this be out of print, thats ludicrous.
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« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2003, 02:14:41 AM »
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i'm sorry to break this to you guys but scarface is truely one of the worst pictures ever.  i'm completely boggled as to why every wanna be playa/gangsta is so into that movie!  the film as no plot or character development, and at a three hour running time, it damn well should have at least on of those!  plus the acting is terrible, which is unusal for pacino.  maybe its just me and i "don't get it" but just becuase a film is old does not qaulify it to be a classic.  don't let that term just fly around to any film older than fifteen years.
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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2003, 09:30:46 AM »
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2003, 09:39:15 AM »
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2003, 11:36:24 AM »
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Ignore those comments... he's just a Poser

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2003, 11:47:36 AM »
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More like a Unelli to me.

woah, these innuendos are reaching grand proportions, epic even.  :shock:
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« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2003, 03:19:26 PM »
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Hitting shelves on September 9th is a new 20th Anniversary Edition of the Brian de Palma bloodfest Scarface, starring Al Pacino as the legendary Tony Montana. With an anamorphic widescreen transfer and new Dolby Digital 5.1 remix, and stay tuned for further specs...
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« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2003, 03:23:17 PM »
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That -- is -- so -- sweet!!!
Thanks for the good news, Mac.
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