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Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Katre on March 11, 2004, 12:12:49 AM
Archibald Cunningham (Time Roth, Rob Roy)

To me he was one of the most realistically evil characters I've ever seen. Sniveling and proper to his superiors one minute... and "very, very nasty" the next. When Rob grabbed the sword during the duel..... hell yeah. I wanted Archibald to get it so bad.

Then there's the lady in One flew over the cookoo's nest
and probabaly a lot of the others that i will remember when you guys mention them.

Oh and aren't the villains the most interesting part of the movies anyway?
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 11, 2004, 12:28:42 AM
Amon Goeth - Schindler's List
Hannibal Lector - Silence Of The Lambs
Frank Booth - Blue Velvet
Darth Vader - Star Wars
Agent Smith - The Matrix
The Devil - The Exorcist
Norman Bates - Psycho
Hans Gruber - Die Hard
Frank - Once Upon A Time In The West
T-100 - The Terminator
T-1000 - T2
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: cine on March 11, 2004, 12:47:13 AM
Quote from: MacGuffinHannibal Lector - Silence Of The Lambs
Frank Booth - Blue Velvet
Hans Gruber - Die Hard
Frank - Once Upon A Time In The West
Which proves that if you need a villainous name, use Frank or something that starts with 'Han'.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: MacGuffin on March 11, 2004, 12:52:43 AM
Quote from: CinephileWhich proves that if you need a villainous name, use Frank or something that starts with 'Han'.

How 'bout just 'Ha'? As in: HAL - 2001: A Space Odyssey
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: cine on March 11, 2004, 12:58:56 AM
Good call, Mac! HAL 9000 - one of my favourites!
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Stefen on March 11, 2004, 03:39:05 AM
Most of them aernt traditional. But I consider them villians.

Dickie Greenleaf.
Most of the soc's from the outsiders.
Ray Liotta in Narc
The Kidnapper in High and Low
Sean Penn in casualties of war
Frys brother Yancy in that one episode of futurama where he steals Frys seven leaf clover.
Stephen Rea in the company of wolves.
Brendan Gleason in A.I.
Jimmy in Sydney
That dumb drunk guy in the sublime stories tales lies and exagerations documentary that keeps talking shit.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Just Withnail on March 11, 2004, 05:17:59 AM
Belloq in Raiders of the Lost Ark
The Emperor in Return of the Jedi
Bruce the shark in Jaws
The T-Rex in Jurassic Park
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Pas on March 11, 2004, 06:37:49 AM
It's all about Bennet in Commando

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John, I'm not going to shoot you between the eyes. I'm going to shoot you between the balls.


Ouhhhh ouh ouh
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Alethia on March 11, 2004, 08:04:29 AM
michael myers - the first halloween ONLY
john lithgow - blow out (don't remember characters name)
video - boogie nights
the joker - batman (nicholson)
jack torrance - the shining
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: edison on March 11, 2004, 10:05:46 AM
Video Tape/Girl - The Ring
Alonzo - Training Day
John Doe - Seven
Devil - Legend
Don Cheatle - Out of Sight
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: SoNowThen on March 11, 2004, 10:37:45 AM
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Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Ravi on March 11, 2004, 10:46:16 AM
Quote from: Cinephile
Quote from: MacGuffinHannibal Lector - Silence Of The Lambs
Frank Booth - Blue Velvet
Hans Gruber - Die Hard
Frank - Once Upon A Time In The West
Which proves that if you need a villainous name, use Frank or something that starts with 'Han'.

Han - Enter the Dragon
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Fernando on March 11, 2004, 10:55:40 AM
Quote from: Pas RapportIt's all about Bennet in Commando

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He has always reminded me this guy.

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As for other villians.

Jack Torrance - The Shining
Mr. Roque - Mulholland Dr.
Saruman - LOTR
Agent Smith - The Matrix
Nurse Ratched - One Flew Over the Cuckos Nest
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 11, 2004, 11:20:56 AM
Quote from: ewardvideo - boogie nights

That's the best one so far. I can't come up with anything better than that and I'm not going to try.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: modage on March 11, 2004, 11:33:37 AM
Quote from: ewardvideo - boogie nights
Quote from: EEz28Video Tape - The Ring
clearly we have a winner.  100 years of movies and the best villain is an inanimate object.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 11, 2004, 11:36:14 AM
Quote from: themodernage02clearly we have a winner.  100 years of movies and the best villain is an inanimate object.



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Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: soixante on March 11, 2004, 11:51:18 AM
Darth Vader
Andy Robinson in Dirty Harry
Bruce Dern in The Cowboys (he killed John Wayne!)
The Humungus in The Road Warrior
Tommy Lee Jones in Under Siege
Alan Rickman in Die Hard
James Remar in 48 Hours
Steven Berkoff in Beverly Hills Cop
Chris Walken in True Romance
The Pimp in My Life to Live
The Cops in Breathless (Richard Gere version)
Corporate Greed in The Insider
Nick Nolte in Q&A
Nicky Katt in Dazed and Confused
M. Emmett Walsh in Straight Time
James Woods in The Onion Field
The Redneck Rapists in Deliverance
The Redneck Rapists in Pulp Fiction
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: SmellyBoobFungus on March 11, 2004, 12:19:40 PM
um, hello - gary oldman characters?

Zorg - Fifth Element
Agent Norman - Leon
Dracula - Dracula
Lee Harvey Oswald - JFK
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: SHAFTR on March 11, 2004, 12:27:32 PM
Dean Trumbell in Punch-Drunk Love
Alien in Alien
Freddy Kruger in Nightmare on Elm St
The Birds in The Birds
Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty
Catherine Tramell in Basic Instinct
Harlen Maguire in Road to Perdition
Johnny Ringo in Tombstone
John Doe in Se7en
Kaiser Soze in The Usual Suspects
Mr. Svenning in Mallrats
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: soixante on March 11, 2004, 05:07:02 PM
How could I forgot Gary Oldman?  He played Drexel in True Romance.  I also enjoyed James Gandolfini as a hired killer in True Romance.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Kal on March 11, 2004, 07:28:53 PM
Agent Smith (Matrix Trilogy - especially in the 3rd one)
Commodus (Gladiator)
Darth Vader (Star Wars)
Dean Pritchard - Jeremy Piven (Old School)
John Travolta in Face Off
The Principal in Ferris Buller... lol
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: penfold0101 on March 12, 2004, 08:19:17 AM
James bond films have some good bad guys

Francisco Scaramanga - Man With the Golden Gun
Baron Samedi - Live and Let Die
Ernst Stavro Blofeld - Diamonds Are Forever, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, You Only Live Twice.
Jaws - dont remember which one hes in :roll:
Odd Job - Gold Finger

i'm sure there are others.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: cine on March 12, 2004, 08:27:37 AM
Bert Gordon in the Hustler
Noah Cross in Chinatown
AIDS in Philadelphia
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: grand theft sparrow on March 12, 2004, 09:06:06 AM
We're all forgetting one of the all time most insidious villains in cinema history...


James Spader as Steff in Pretty in Pink!  Chilling.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Fernando on March 12, 2004, 09:52:27 AM
Quote from: penfold0101James bond films have some good bad guys

Jaws - dont remember which one hes in :roll:


The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: SiliasRuby on March 12, 2004, 03:55:00 PM
Jack Torrance-The Shining
The Joker-Batman
Norman Bates-Psycho
Dean Trumbel-Punch Drunk Love
Kaiser Soze-The Usual Suspects
Frank Booth-Blue Velvet
Nurse Ratchet-One Flew over the Cuckoo's Nest
Hannibal Lector-The Silence of the Lambs
and I don't think of of him as a villian but one twisted fuck....
Aaron Stampler-Primal Fear
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: rustinglass on March 12, 2004, 04:14:44 PM
Gary Oldman-Leon
Robert de Niro- Cape Fear
Kathy Bates- Misery
Jack Nicholson-the shining
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: El Duderino on March 13, 2004, 12:10:41 PM
Quote from: andyk
Commodus (Gladiator)
Darth Vader (Star Wars)

L'il Ze in City of God, moreso when he's a kid
Ordell Roby in Jackie Brown
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: NEON MERCURY on March 13, 2004, 12:59:43 PM
the wicked witch of the west .in the wizard of oz
shhhhredder in TMNT
day lewis in GANGS
the fratelli's in GOONIES
joe pesci in Moonwalker
the VHS tape in the ring
..........and BOB from twin peaks....
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: El Duderino on March 15, 2004, 09:35:04 PM
the russians in Big Lebowski led by Peter Stormare
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: El Duderino on March 15, 2004, 10:02:54 PM
also:

link to gigantic fucking cap of psh in pdl (http://www.ptanderson.com/featurefilms/images/love/stills/12.jpg)

*admin-edited for the protection of those allergic to gigantic fucking caps of psh in pdl.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: El Duderino on April 16, 2004, 11:25:38 PM
bill
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Pubrick on April 16, 2004, 11:42:45 PM
lars von trier.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: molly on April 17, 2004, 12:50:53 AM
Satan in The Passion of Christ was good
Joe Pantoliano in The Soprano was good, vomiticiously good
oh, and Robert Carlysle aka Begbie from Trainspotting, i kept thingking that the director took a guy from the street and let him play himself, but no, he is an actor, and you can see him like a desperate father in the movie called Full Monty(not sure about the title), about local unemployed  guys who started to do striptease, like The Chippendales.
Title: ...
Post by: indiana on April 17, 2004, 02:11:23 AM
the badguy that robert shaw played in the sting is pretty good as being a bad guy.
and the joker from batman
peace
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: samsong on April 17, 2004, 02:44:46 AM
- Jack Wilson (Jack Palance) in Shane
- Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper in Dr. Strangelove
- Rev. Harry Powell (Robert Mitchum) in The Night of the Hunter
- Chicamaw 'One-Eye' Mobley (Howard Da Silva) in They Live By Night
- Little Bill Daggett (Gene Hackman) in Unforgiven
- Tajômaru (Toshiro Mifune) in Rashomon
- DEATH (Bengt Ekerot) in The Seventh Seal
- Edward the Longshanks (Patrick McGoohan) and Mel-Gibson-as-director (applicable to The Passion of the Christ too) in Braveheart
- Al Capone (Robert De Niro) in The Untouchables
- Arthur Slugworth (Günter Meisner) in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
- Scar (Jeremy Irons) in The Lion King... and just about every other villian in a Disney movie, but him especially + Maleficent in Sleeping Beauty
- Battling Burrows (Donald Crisp) in Broken Blossoms
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Post by: rustinglass on April 17, 2004, 06:28:19 AM
Quote from: indianathe badguy that robert shaw played in the sting is pretty good as being a bad guy.


The name's Lonnegan! Doyle Lonnegan! ya follow?
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: El Duderino on April 18, 2004, 03:23:32 AM
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Post by: cine on April 18, 2004, 03:26:51 AM
Oh don't worry Dude, you don't NEED to post *her* picture... We KNOW what *her* name is....
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Post by: Find Your Magali on April 18, 2004, 10:47:35 AM
Here's a less obvious villain, on the left:

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Post by: NEON MERCURY on April 18, 2004, 07:49:50 PM
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"Man, I gotta take a piss bad...  Can
         I use your head there?"

-bobby peru



.....:rofl:
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Post by: MacGuffin on October 27, 2004, 01:27:50 PM
Film Fans Make Bush 'Movie Villain of the Year'

President Bush may see himself as defender of democracy and compassionate conservatism but British film fans have voted him "Movie Villain of the Year."

The American "Axis of Evil" fighter is wooing voters with security pledges ahead of the presidential election next week, but it was Bush's role in Michael Moore's anti-war film "Fahrenheit 9/11" that won him the villainous title.

In a poll for Total Film magazine, the U.S. leader fought off competition from such well-known baddies as atomic scientist Doctor Octopus from "Spider-Man 2" and fellow Texan Leatherface from "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre."

"The overwhelming response of our readers voting Bush top villain just goes to show how frightening people found him in Fahrenheit 9/11," Total Film's editor Matt Mueller told Reuters.

"He was absolutely terrifying in that film. The infamous scene where he's informed about the Twin Towers attack while visiting a school, and sits there absolutely paralyzed, is enough to strike fear into anyone's heart," he said.
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Post by: ©brad on October 27, 2004, 01:43:17 PM
^
that's awesome.

villians to note:

the tornados in twister
the volcano in volcano
the boat in titanic
the bus in speed
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: Alethia on October 27, 2004, 04:17:32 PM
Quote from: ©bradthe bus in speed

i think the bomb was worse, really...
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Post by: Just Withnail on October 27, 2004, 05:14:34 PM
How about the speed in Speed?
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: picolas on October 27, 2004, 08:16:22 PM
the friction in Speed.
Title: Who are your favorite movie villains?
Post by: cron on June 25, 2005, 07:53:32 AM
How'd you get so mean?

As the summer blockbusters introduce a new bunch of baddies, Leo Benedictus gives a few pointers on what makes the perfect villain

Friday June 24, 2005

Be British

Sophistication in all its forms is a sure sign of evil, and American audiences find nothing more sophisticated (or untrustworthy) than a snooty Brit. The British villain industry - whose leading exports include Steven Berkoff, Ian McDiarmid, Gary Oldman, Jeremy Irons, Jonathan Pryce, Anthony Hopkins and many others - is now estimated to be one of the nation's biggest earners. Alan Rickman alone is more valuable than detergents.

Interestingly, British audiences prefer their evil to originate on the continent. Anyone who looks as if they might start speaking in another language is clearly not to be trusted. Thus, as a counterpoint to James Bond (who would himself be the villain in most Hollywood movies), we have Ernst Stavro Blofeld, foreigner extraordinaire.


Nevertheless, five out of six Blofelds have been played by British actors. Anthony Dawson (who was also the evil metallurgist Professor Dent in Dr No) stroked the cat in From Russia with Love and Thunderball. He was followed by Donald Pleasence (You Only Live Twice), Charles Gray (Diamonds Are Forever) and John Hollis (For Your Eyes Only). Hollis's brief appearance was a clear promotion from his previous roles as henchmen to the masked Klytus in Flash Gordon and treacherous Lando Calrissian in The Empire Strikes Back.
Europeans themselves, of course, do not realise how evil they are, which can cause problems. In the German version of Die Hard, for instance, the extremely German terrorists are identified only as "European", and the name of Alan Rickman's character had to be changed from Hans Gruber to Jack Gruber.

Take up a hobby

Ideally, of course, this should be something evil, such as drug-taking (Gary Oldman in Leon), lair-building (various) or torture (everyone). Alternatively, it is good to try to incorporate a harmless hobby into one's work. Bad guys are keen pet lovers, for instance, with snakes, sharks and piranhas always a popular choice. The Batman series, in particular, would never have been possible without the contribution of demented cat, penguin, riddle and coin-tossing hobbyists, among others.

Villains are susceptible to fads too, of course, such as the bomb-making craze of the mid-1990s, when Tommy Lee Jones (Ryan Gaerity in Blown Away), Dennis Hopper (Howard Payne in Speed) and Jeremy Irons (Die Hard With a Vengeance) all played crazed bomb enthusiasts, vainly lecturing the hero on the beauty of explosions. Jones's character spent years rigging up his own lair, an abandoned ship, into one marvellous Heath Robinson-type bomb. Happily, he got to see it blow up.

Have a name that scores well in Scrabble

Unusual letters of the alphabet, like all unfamiliar things and people, should be treated with suspicion. A lot of death could have been avoided if a few people had thought twice about Hugo Drax (Moonraker), Zorg (The Fifth Element), Rene Belloq (Raiders of the Lost Ark), Max Zorin (A View to a Kill) and Xenia Zaragevna Onatopp (Goldeneye). Sometimes, though, the name is just too obvious. We will have to wait until July to see why Victor von Doom, aka Dr Doom (Fantastic Four, played by Julian McMahon), was not locked up at birth.

There is some evidence to suggest that this principle works the other way round, filling perfectly normal people like Max von Sydow and Brian Cox with the urge to be evil on screen, or - in the case of Roman Abramovitch - real life. More research is needed to discover why.

Feel sorry for yourself

Villains are people, too. Usually, it was only when something went wrong in their life (preferably disfiguring them) that they turned to evil. If you or I lost a thumb in our poorly paid bomb-disposal job and then weren't appreciated properly when we retired, we too, like Dennis Hopper's character in Speed, would put a bomb on a lift and demand a giant ransom (with another two on buses, just in case it didn't work).

In the same way, Sean Bean resents being shot in the head at the beginning of Goldeneye, so naturally he hatches a plan to steal a prototype helicopter, hijack a nuclear weapon in space and then use it to rob a bank. The Bond series, in fact, is positively obsessed with the connection between disfigurement and evil. There is Dr No's prosthetic hand, Largo's eyepatch in Thunderball, Blofeld's scar in You Only Live Twice, Tee Hee's metal arm in Live and Let Die, Scaramanga's third nipple in The Man With the Golden Gun, Jaws's metal teeth in The Spy Who Loved Me and Moonraker, Renard's bullet in the brain in The World Is Not Enough and Zao's scarred face in Die Another Day. To which we might add that Zorin in A View to a Kill was genetically engineered by Nazis, Franz Sanchez in Licence to Kill suffered from bad acne as a teenager and Goldfinger is clearly overweight.

At the risk of being boring, it is also worth pointing out that Zorg in The Fifth Element (played by Gary Oldman) has a metal leg, the Gestapo officer has a branded hand in Raiders of the Lost Ark, and the latest Star Wars film centres on the disfigurement of Darth Sidious and Darth Vader, the most disabled bad guy of them all. Perhaps one day somebody will assemble all these evil prostheses to create the ultimate robo-baddie. Perhaps not.

Get rich

This is very important. While most extremely rich people limit their evilness to hiring a good tax lawyer and flying everywhere, a true villain, having accumulated his first couple of billion, will build an enormous evil empire, hire the most evil henchmen available and then set about trying to take over the world. The Green Goblin in Spider-Man, Elliot Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies and Roman Abramovich at Chelsea are good examples.

The starting point for anyone considering a career in villainy, therefore, is to make a lot of money. One route might be by playing villains in Hollywood. Jack Nicholson, for example, is reputed to have made more money from his role as the Joker than any other actor has ever been paid for any movie (around $60m from a contract that included merchandising).

Once you are rich, flaunting it is a sure sign of evil intent. It was hard to imagine what form an evil meteorologist might take until a group of them pulled up with their shiny new vans and started showing off their equipment in Twister. And if you have obscure and expensive tastes, so much the better. Villains eat caviar from endangered species; heroes are happy with bread and butter.

Be Christopher Lee

When a man is 6ft 5in tall, descended from Italian aristocracy, educated at an English public school, a brilliant fencer and golfer, loves opera, speaks French, German, Spanish and Italian, and can "get along" in Swedish, Russian and Greek, you know he is destined for evil. Ian Fleming originally wanted Lee, who was a distant relative of his, for the role of Dr No; Lee didn't get the part but went on to become one of the most prolific screen actors of all time. The Internet Movie Database estimates that 85% of his film roles have been villains.

His record, which includes appearances as baddies in the James Bond, Star Wars and Lord of the Rings franchises, will surely never be surpassed. He has played Scaramanga, Frankenstein's monster, Rasputin, the Mummy, Count Dooku (twice), Saruman (several times), Dr Fu Manchu (five times) and Count Dracula (10 times). Other miscellaneous bad guys from the Lee oeuvre include Lord Summerisle in The Wicker Man, the Tong leader in The Terror of the Tongs and - on one blood-curdling occasion - Prince Philip. How Ralph Fiennes and not Lee bagged Voldemort in the upcoming Harry Potter film remains a mystery.

Die extravagantly

One of the reasons that villains are so rich is that they have no need for a pension plan, since the position carries a high risk of violent and ironic death. Thus, if you take an airport hostage in the afternoon (Major Grant in Die Hard 2), you can expect to be sucked into a jet engine before dinner. If you plan to make your fortune by inventing a device that drills holes in battleships in order to start a war that your newspapers can then make a lot of money from reporting on (Elliot Carver in Tomorrow Never Dies, played by Jonathan Pryce), then it would be a good idea not to stand near the drill until everything has worked out. And if you steal the Ark of the Covenant for Germany instead of for America (Rene Belloq in Raiders of the Lost Ark), you must expect to be melted by the Lord.