Filmmakers who lost their sheep

Alethia · January 14, 2004, 11:30:47 PM

Quote from: soixanteFemme Fatale, in my opinion, is not a return to form for De Palma. It is more like an excuse to shoot lots of nude scenes.

so were most of his other great movies lol....well it was certainly more DePalma than fuckin Mission To Mars (*puke*)

MacGuffin · January 14, 2004, 11:38:12 PM

Quote from: soixanteHis earlier films seemed to be exercises in flashy cinematography, not cinema.

Go watch "Thema & Louise".

Just Withnail · January 15, 2004, 03:49:57 AM

Quote from: soixanteBlack Hawk Down is the first Ridley Scott film I ever really liked. His earlier films seemed to be exercises in flashy cinematography, not cinema

And Black Hawk Down isn't?

pookiethecat · January 15, 2004, 02:14:22 PM

i have always been satifsfied with scott's movies. they're flashy and not made with an artistic spirit, but i always enjoy them as entertainment. he always produces digestible, blockbuster entertainment that isn't offensive to the intelligence. i always liked his Alien better than Cameron's Aliens. And White Squall was touching and truly tragic.

pete · January 15, 2004, 02:25:55 PM

steven soudenburgh lost it.
Tarantino had a theory from the Charlie Rose interview about great directors that'd lost it that made a lotta sense to me. It's pretty long so you should read it for yourself over here:

http://tarantino.webds.de/tarantino/archive/interviews/charlierose_int.htm

cron · January 15, 2004, 02:35:43 PM

it's about filmmakers who did a very personal film that bombed and the their careers went down.

Redlum · January 15, 2004, 03:28:56 PM

Thanks for posting that. I was hooked from the moment I started reading.

cron · January 15, 2004, 03:30:41 PM

Quote from: ®edlumThanks for posting that. I was hooked from the moment I started reading.

it's all on the Pulp Fiction SE DVD... in case you're interested. Quentin wears an amazing astroboy green tie.

Redlum · January 15, 2004, 03:39:28 PM

Crap. Obviously I didn't look very closely at the special features, then.

soixante · January 15, 2004, 04:43:29 PM

If filmmakers can lose it, they can regain it. Soderbergh's first film was great, his next two (Kafka, The Underneath) sucked. He went back to square one, making a very low budget, experimental film (Schizopolis), then found his footing making crime dramas (Out of Sight, The Limey, Traffic).

Same with Gus Van Sant, who has gone back to his experimental, low budget roots with Gerry and Elephant after doing a few Hollywood major studio films.

I'm waiting for Francis Ford Coppola to regain it.

Derek · January 15, 2004, 04:51:34 PM

Psycho was experimental.

Alethia · January 15, 2004, 05:23:53 PM

yeah too bad he felt the need

pookiethecat · January 16, 2004, 09:55:33 AM

Quote from: soixanteIf filmmakers can lose it, they can regain it. Soderbergh's first film was great, his next two (Kafka, The Underneath) sucked. He went back to square one, making a very low budget, experimental film (Schizopolis), then found his footing making crime dramas (Out of Sight, The Limey, Traffic)..

you're forgetting the recent abominations of oceans 11, full frontal, and erin brockovich.

Redlum · January 16, 2004, 10:14:11 AM

Quote from: pookiethecat

you're forgetting the recent abominations of oceans 11, full frontal, and erin brockovich.

Abominations? How the...?

pookiethecat · January 16, 2004, 10:24:20 AM

how the...are they not abominations? oceans 11 and erin brockovich are two of the most smugly self satisfied, mediocre, weak films in recent memory...and full frontal is universally regarded as a piece of shit.