Young Adam

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MacGuffin

'Young Adam' gets an NC-17
The restrictive rating is film producer Jeremy Thomas' second of year. Source: Los Angeles Times

The British drama "Young Adam," starring Ewan McGregor and Tilda Swinton, has become the second film distributed by a major studio subsidiary this year to receive the rarely imposed NC-17 rating from the Motion Picture Assn. of America.

As happened with Bernardo Bertolucci's "The Dreamers," the NC-17 rating was awarded to "Young Adam" because of its sexual content. The film's distributor, Sony Pictures Classics, appealed the decision, and its veteran London-based producer, Jeremy Thomas (who also produced "The Dreamers"), flew to Los Angeles this week to try to have the rating overturned. But an MPAA ratings appeal board Thursday upheld the decision by an 8-2 vote.

"Sony Classics are going to release the film as an NC-17, though they're not happy about it," Thomas said, speaking by phone Friday. "But I'm not going to appeal it again."

Tom Bernard, co-chairman of Sony Pictures Classics, said the NC-17 rating will have an effect on the film's commercial appeal. Bernard contended that the rating is unfair because it does not distinguish between a quality art film and hard-core pornography.

"It matters tremendously," Bernard said. "Your movie is in the same category as the porn movie of the week. So if it's 'Debbie Does Dallas' or 'Deep Throat 7,' you have the same rating as a high quality art movie like 'Young Adam.' "

The film, which debuted at the Cannes Film Festival last May, didn't find a distributor until Sony Classics secured the rights in September at the Toronto Film Festival for a little more than $500,000.

"Young Adam" will open April 16 in New York and Los Angeles and in other markets thereafter.

The rating, which means that no one 17 or younger will be admitted to "Young Adam," has historically been reserved for films with explicit sexual content that includes full frontal nudity and/or scenes vividly depicting intercourse, and more rarely for violence. But until this year, the NC-17 had fallen into disuse.

According to Thomas, a single scene in "Young Adam" was enough to earn the NC-17.

"It's one in which Tilda and Ewan's characters make love for the first time, on a riverbank," he said. "But they're fully clothed, so I'm surprised. There were other scenes in the film that I'd have felt less confident about defending. Anyway, this was a scene we didn't want to cut."

According to sources familiar with the ratings debate on "Young Adam," the sticking point was the duration of that scene, which includes McGregor's character engaging in oral sex with Swinton's character. The film has other sexually explicit scenes, including a sensual food fight between McGregor and costar Emily Mortimer, but the amount of time the oral sex scene lasted is what sent ratings board members over the edge.

"The other scenes were disturbing but this just lasted too long for their comfort," one source said. "There comes a point where they start wriggling in their seats and then you have lost them."

Joan Graves, head of the rating board, was unavailable to comment.

The MPAA's rating board, made up of parents, does not have strict guidelines for what qualifies as an NC-17. The board usually watches three to four movies per day. It is, as MPAA President Jack Valenti has admitted, an extremely subjective process.

In "Young Adam," a bleak drama set in Scotland in the 1950s, McGregor plays Joe, an amoral drifter working on a canal barge owned by a married couple, Les and Ella (Peter Mullan and Swinton). After Joe and Les find the half-naked body of a young woman floating in the canal, Joe seduces Ella, and it becomes clear he may be involved in the woman's death.

"It's not a pornographic film," Thomas insisted. "Unfortunately, this NC-17 [rating] gives it the imprimatur of a film that it's not. And it has commercial consequences. I suspect 'The Dreamers' [distributed by Fox Searchlight] suffered in the United States because of the NC-17."

Fox Searchlight executives declined to comment, although they previously stated they were able to advertise the film in papers and to book theaters with virtually no restrictions.

However, "The Dreamers," which was released in February to mixed reviews, grossed only $2.2 million. It is unclear whether that was due to the NC-17 or if the film just did not spark enough interest to sustain it.

Thomas, who has been Bertolucci's producer for decades, agreed it had been an extraordinary year for him in terms of American ratings controversy.

"I'm sorry about that," he said ruefully. "But what do you do? I know 'The Dreamers' was a film with many reasons for them to give it an NC-17. In the end, that never went to appeal. But I feel 'Young Adam' is different.

"I just make films for grown-ups — and this NC-17 is another obstacle."

Thomas, who won a best picture Oscar in 1988 as producer of Bertolucci's "The Last Emperor," has made other controversial films, including David Cronenberg's "Crash" and "The Naked Lunch."

He noted that the climate of tolerance is different in the United States from Europe. "I see a film like 'Kill Bill,' which is full of violence, and it received an R…. I don't understand the moral balance between them. But I suppose that's what [American] parents would rather have — a level of violence rather than sexual content."

"Young Adam" was enthusiastically received by critics when it opened in Britain in September, and director David Mackenzie was named most promising newcomer at the London Critics' Circle film awards last month.

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Release Date: April 16th, 2004 (LA/NY); expands to other cities at later dates

Cast: Ewan McGregor (Joe Taylor), Tilda Swinton (Ella Gault), Emily Mortimer (Cathie Dimly), Peter Mullan (Les Gault), Jack McElhone (Jim Gault), Therese Bradley (Gwen), Alan Cooke (Bob M'Bussi), Rory McCann (Sam), Stuart McQuarrie (Bill), Ewan Stewart (Daniel Gordon), Pauline Turner (Connie)

Director: David McKenzie (his feature film debut was a movie called 'The Last Great Wilderness', which is still seeking U.S. distribution; next up is Asylum)

Screenwriter: David McKenzie (debut)

Based Upon: The first novel by Scottish beat writer Alexander Trocchi (1925-1984).

Premise: A Scottish drifter, Joe (McGregor), finds work on a barge traveling between Glasgow and Edinburgh which is operated by a married couple (Swinton, Mullan). Soon after, they discover a female corpse floating in the water. The film continues as the police investigate the death, Joe holds back dark secrets about the case, and a physical attraction develops between Joe and his boss's wife (Swinton).
"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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El Duderino

Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

Ghostboy

One of the things I like about Fight Club is that it managed to show an erect penis and still get away with an R.

Yeah, the MPAA sucks. What's new.

bonanzataz

Quote from: GhostboyOne of the things I like about Fight Club is that it managed to show an erect penis and still get away with an R.

Yeah, the MPAA sucks. What's new.

as did the banger sisters. that mpaa article mac posted was full of spoilers. now i know that tilda swinton is going to get head. i'll be in the movie theater and ewan and tilda will be along together and i'll be like, "Oh! i already know what's going to happen now! what's the point of watching?!"
The corpses all hang headless and limp bodies with no surprises and the blood drains down like devil's rain we'll bathe tonight I want your skulls I need your skulls I want your skulls I need your skulls Demon I am and face I peel to see your skin turned inside out, 'cause gotta have you on my wall gotta have you on my wall, 'cause I want your skulls I need your skulls I want your skulls I need your skulls collect the heads of little girls and put 'em on my wall hack the heads off little girls and put 'em on my wall I want your skulls I need your skulls I want your skulls I need your skulls

pete

something about mary had sperm and a penis tickled a wayan's (forgot which) ear in Scary Movie.  The idea of 8 people deciding what other people's children should or shouldn't watch is kinda over-the-top.  It's like they're saying they know what's good for your children.  If these people object to whatever content, they can just look away--but no, 'cause they're watching/ suffering for OUR own good.
"Tragedy is a close-up; comedy, a long shot."
- Buster Keaton

cine

Quote from: petesomething about mary had sperm
And they even DRINK IT in American Pie. But I guess that movie can be rated R for all of its content and nothing more.  :roll:

El Duderino

eyes wide shut was rated R and it's got some pretty "hot" scenes in there
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

Ghostboy

The major criteria generally seems to be genitalia...you can show a woman's pubic hair, or as much of a vagina as you might be able to see from a strictly frontal view -- anthing orificial will get you an NC-17. You can see, usually briefly, a penis, but god forbid that it be aroused.

Also, multiple head bobs and gratuituous thrusting have been known to push the censors' buttons, but that's more on a case by case basis.

Chest Rockwell

Quote from: GhostboyAlso, multiple head bobs and gratuituous thrusting have been known to push the censors' buttons, but that's more on a case by case basis.
I don't think any of this ever goes beyond an R rating, though...unless you're talking something really long, like in Irreversible, or a scene in which the sexees are totally naked.

Ghostboy

I remember one movie in particular that had to be edited because of the number of head bobs...the director complained about how there was a certain number of bobs he wasn't allowed to go over if he wanted an R rating...but I forget what film it was.

And then on Summer Of Sam, Spike had to do an optical zoom to mask John Leguizamo's thrusting buttocks.

MacGuffin

"Don't think about making art, just get it done. Let everyone else decide if it's good or bad, whether they love it or hate it. While they are deciding, make even more art." - Andy Warhol


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El Duderino

NC-17 trailer:



the quality sucks, but it's a pretty good trailer.
Did I just get cock-blocked by Bob Saget?

Ghostboy

I saw this this evening. I can't believe the MPAA gave it the NC-17 over the scene cited as being offensive...they are indeed fully clothed, Ewen just dips his head under Tilda's skirt and keeps it there for a minute or so. That's it. In other scenes, there is full frontal nudity and lots of other vigorous sex (nothing as graphic as The Dreamers, though), but they object to some implied cunnilingus...what a world (or country).

On to the movie...

It's interesting. Reminds me equally of Morvern Callar (in its obliqueness) and Spider (both in the geography and in the way the narrative unfolds, although it isn't nearly as layered). Most people will probably wonder what the point of it is and be frustrated by the lack of the narrative catharsis. It's structured out of sequence, although not in any obvious way (a la 21 Grams), and while there's something of a mystery to the story, it's not really what the film is about. I didn't think it was a great film, but the fractured story slowly drew me under its sway.

It also has a nice, quietly compelling score by David Byrne.

mutinyco

Admit it. You really just dug Ewen's Little Adam...
"I believe in this, and it's been tested by research: he who fucks nuns will later join the church."

-St. Joe

Ghostboy

It's not so little.

And as a proponent of unbiased perspectives in sex scenes, sure, I was happy to see it.