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Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: markums2k on July 16, 2003, 09:55:03 AM
So, anyone seen Basic yet,?  It was just released on DVD.  I seriously meant to see it in the theater but I missed it.  I'll probably rent it today.  Any thoughts?
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Pubrick on July 16, 2003, 09:57:44 AM
it's a piece of shit.

no, wait, that was rollerball.

ok Basic can be a dark mucus substance an old smoker may cough up.
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 16, 2003, 12:16:35 PM
Quote from: markums2kSo, anyone seen Basic yet,?  It was just released on DVD.  I seriously meant to see it in the theater but I missed it.  I'll probably rent it today.  Any thoughts?

Markums, you really like shitty directors/movies, dontcha?  :?
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: markums2k on July 16, 2003, 12:25:49 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
Quote from: markums2kSo, anyone seen Basic yet,?  It was just released on DVD.  I seriously meant to see it in the theater but I missed it.  I'll probably rent it today.  Any thoughts?

Markums, you really like shitty directors/movies, dontcha?  :?

Die Hard with a Vengence is one of my favorite movies of all time.  A shame they didn't stick with the original ending.  However, I feel my lack of intelligence and taste is more than balanced by my uncanny ability to grow facial hair.

Actually, let me re-phrase the question for all future posters: Does Basic suck as bad as Rollerball or not?
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: markums2k on July 16, 2003, 12:29:23 PM
And PLEASE fix your signature, Goon.  Nobody benefits from a mis-quote.

"Ernest Hemingway once [wrote]: 'The world's a fine place, and worth fighting for.' I agree with the [second part]."
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 16, 2003, 12:32:34 PM
Quote from: markums2k
Quote from: Ghoulardi Goon
Quote from: markums2kSo, anyone seen Basic yet,?  It was just released on DVD.  I seriously meant to see it in the theater but I missed it.  I'll probably rent it today.  Any thoughts?

Markums, you really like shitty directors/movies, dontcha?  :?

Die Hard with a Vengence is one of my favorite movies of all time.  A shame they didn't stick with the original ending.  However, I feel my lack of intelligence and taste is more than balanced by my uncanny ability to grow facial hair.

Actually, let me re-phrase the question for all future posters: Does Basic suck as bad as Rollerball or not?

And you mock me for liking PTA's films.  Whew, bud, you've got balls.  And no brains.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 16, 2003, 12:33:28 PM
Quote from: markums2kAnd PLEASE fix your signature, Goon.  Nobody benefits from a mis-quote.

"Ernest Hemingway once [wrote]: 'The world's a fine place, and worth fighting for.' I agree with the [second part]."

If it bothers you, I'll keep it.  :lol:
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: markums2k on July 16, 2003, 12:35:51 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi GoonAnd you mock me for liking PTA's films. Whew, bud, you've got balls. And no brains.

Holy shit, buddy.  Since when?  I'll just stop acknowledging everything you say if you're not going to pay attention.  That's that.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: chainsmoking insomniac on July 16, 2003, 12:38:50 PM
Just joking pal.   :wink:

Yeah, I have a less than slightly healthy PTA film fixation.  I've tried all sorts of drugs, counseling, even Alan Rickman movies....but the only treatment that has temporarily alleviated this syndrome is...

Yep, you guessed it: Cigarettes and Coffee.  8)
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Alethia on July 16, 2003, 12:43:07 PM
Quote from: Ghoulardi GoonJust joking pal.   :wink:

Yeah, I have a less than slightly healthy PTA film fixation.  I've tried all sorts of drugs, counseling, even Alan Rickman movies....but the only treatment that has temporarily alleviated this syndrome is...

Yep, you guessed it: Cigarettes and Coffee.  8)

that was beautiful.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Ghostboy on July 16, 2003, 12:50:28 PM
Basic sucks. Not as bad as Rollerball, but you'd be better off just watching Die Hard 1 or 3 again if you want a McTiernan fix. Or even Thomas Crown Affair or 13th Warrior.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: ono on July 16, 2003, 12:55:52 PM
Quote from: GhostboyOr even ... 13th Warrior.
Heh, that must be really bad.  13th Warrior is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Ghostboy on July 16, 2003, 01:00:04 PM
I'm one of the rare people who actually thought 13th Warrior had a lot of really good material in it. You could often see how it was, at some point, heading towards being a pretty good movie. Rollerball, on the other hand, is definitely one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: markums2k on July 16, 2003, 01:14:16 PM
Quote from: Onomatopoeia
Quote from: GhostboyOr even ... 13th Warrior.
Heh, that must be really bad.  13th Warrior is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.

I've never seen it.  I had absolutely no interest in it whatsoever.  I even used to like Crichton books (13th Warrior is adapted from a Crichton book, different title)... but they just make me cringe now.  Tried reading Timeline, but it's just so fucking blah.

After listening to McTiernan on the Die Hard DVDs, I just can't imagine that man making movies as bad as Rollerball, but he is.  I'll probably still rent Basic so I can judge it for myself.  I like my popcorn with butter, salt, and bitter resentment.
Title: McTIERNAN is awesome
Post by: soylent greenish on July 19, 2003, 08:49:53 PM
LAST ACTION HERO !!!!
and DIE HARD is also a really great guilty pleasure film
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: MacGuffin on May 14, 2004, 12:33:02 AM
McTiernan Falls Victim
Die Hard director helming 10th Victim remake.

According to ScreenDaily, filmmaker John McTiernan (Die Hard) is attached to direct The 10th Victim for Morgan Creek Productions and Universal. The project is a remake of the 1960s sci-fi thriller by Elio Petri. McTiernan is revising the original script by David Klass (Walking Tall).

The long-in-development project, last set-up at Myriad Pictures, "is the story of a futuristic TV show in which men and women hunt each other down and kill each other for cash prizes and entertainment. Two star contestants are assigned to compete with each other and fall in love." ScreenDaily adds that the remake "will be set 20 years in the future."

Brendan Fraser and Rebecca Romijn-Stamos had been rumored to star but it's not certain if that's still the case.
Title: Re: McTIERNAN is awesome
Post by: Just Withnail on May 14, 2004, 07:20:37 AM
Quote from: soylent greenishand DIE HARD is also a really great guilty pleasure film

Watching Die Hard is nothing to feel guilty about.

Quote from: Mac"is the story of a futuristic TV show in which men and women hunt each other down and kill each other for cash prizes and entertainment. Two star contestants are assigned to compete with each other and fall in love."

God that sounds awful. Anyone seen the original?
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: ono on May 14, 2004, 07:54:36 AM
No, I haven't, but wasn't there another movie just like this?  Perhaps also a remake?  Series 7: The Contender, I think it was called.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Pubrick on May 14, 2004, 08:07:24 AM
Quote from: OnomatopitaSeries 7: The Contender, I think it was called.
yes, that was it. exactly the same story. they'll prolly use "love will tear us apart" in this one too.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: MacGuffin on May 14, 2004, 09:23:12 AM
Quote from: Onomatopitawasn't there another movie just like this?  Perhaps also a remake?  Series 7: The Contender, I think it was called.

Or "The Running Man."
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: cron on May 14, 2004, 09:33:21 AM
Quote from: MacGuffin
Quote from: Onomatopitawasn't there another movie just like this?  Perhaps also a remake?  Series 7: The Contender, I think it was called.

Or "The Running Man."

Yeah, I was thinking of that
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Just Withnail on May 14, 2004, 10:09:49 AM
So...Most redundant movie ever, huh.
Title: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Ghostboy on May 14, 2004, 12:24:15 PM
Not too dissimilar from his classic remake of Rollerball, either.
Title: Re: McTIERNAN is awesome
Post by: Gold Trumpet on May 14, 2004, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: Withnail
Quote from: soylent greenishand DIE HARD is also a really great guilty pleasure film

Watching Die Hard is nothing to feel guilty about.

Absolutely. Die Hard is a grand film for its genre. The art of the film isn't in human understanding, but if you weigh the film in terms of genre, it seems to have everything you want in an action film and its very smart with how it shows everything. A great experience.
Title: Re: McTIERNAN is awesome
Post by: Just Withnail on May 14, 2004, 03:16:03 PM
Quote from: The Gold Trumpet
Quote from: Withnail
Quote from: soylent greenishand DIE HARD is also a really great guilty pleasure film

Watching Die Hard is nothing to feel guilty about.

Absolutely. Die Hard is a grand film for its genre. The art of the film isn't in human understanding, but if you weigh the film in terms of genre, it seems to have everything you want in an action film and its very smart with how it shows everything. A great experience.

Right on cue  :wink:
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: MacGuffin on April 04, 2006, 02:01:55 AM
Film Director Accused of Lying to FBI

"Die Hard" director John McTiernan was charged Monday with making a false statement to the FBI about his knowledge of wiretapping by an indicted Hollywood private detective, authorities said.

McTiernan is accused of lying to federal investigators last month when he told them he had no knowledge of the wiretapping and had never discussed it with the private eye, according to a charging document provided by the U.S. Attorney's Office.

Investigators contend McTiernan, 55, hired Anthony Pellicano to tap phone calls involving a man identified in the documents as Charles Roven, a Hollywood producer who worked with him on "Rollerball."

McTiernan, who also directed "The Thomas Crown Affair" "The Hunt for Red October" and "Last Action Hero," could face a maximum sentence of five years in prison if convicted. A message left with his attorney, John Carlton, was not immediately returned.

Pellicano, who has worked for some of the biggest names in Hollywood, has been charged in a wiretapping scandal that has rattled entertainment and legal circles.

Prosecutors allege he wiretapped Hollywood stars he was hired to investigate, including Sylvester Stallone and others, and used the information for threats, blackmail and in some cases to help clients gain advantages in legal disputes. Pellicano has pleaded not guilty to the charges.

McTiernan is the 14th person charged in the ongoing case. Four others have pleaded guilty to a variety of charges, including wire fraud and conspiracy.
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: polkablues on April 04, 2006, 02:09:36 AM
It's nice to see that making Rollerball ruined his life almost as much as watching it ruined mine.
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: MacGuffin on June 07, 2007, 12:14:49 AM
McTiernan places bet on 'Stakes'
Source: Hollywood Reporter

John McTiernan is set to direct the Las Vegas action thriller "High Stakes" for Persistent Pictures and Velvet Octopus.

Penned by Ronnie Christensen, the story revolves around two friends who find themselves in over their heads when they realize they are the living collateral of a high-stakes bet.

Matt Rhodes is producing the project, which is scheduled to begin shooting in the fall in Shreveport, La., and Las Vegas.

ICM's international and independent film division packaged the project and will handle North American rights.

"Stakes" marks the second collaboration between Christensen and Persistent Pictures. The first is Sony's upcoming thriller "Passengers," starring Patrick Wilson and Anne Hathaway.

McTiernan, whose credits include "Die Hard," "Die Hard: With a Vengeance" and "The Thomas Crown Affair," most recently directed the John Travolta-Samuel L. Jackson starrer "Basic."
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: matt35mm on September 24, 2007, 03:58:53 PM
'Die Hard' Director Sentenced to Prison
by RAQUEL MARIA DILLON, For The Associated Press

LOS ANGELES - A federal judge sentenced Hollywood director John McTiernan to four months in prison Monday after refusing to allow him to withdraw his guilty plea to charges of lying to the FBI about his association with disgraced private eye Anthony Pellicano.

Judge Dale S. Fischer gave the director of such films as "Predator," "Die Hard," "The Hunt for Red October" and "The Thomas Crown Affair" until Jan. 15 to turn himself in to authorities. McTiernan's lawyer said he would appeal.

McTiernan also was ordered to pay a $100,000 fine.

When he entered his plea last year, McTiernan said he lied when he told an FBI agent the only time he used Pellicano's services was during his divorce. In actuality, he said, he hired Pellicano to wiretap Charles Roven, a producer who had worked with him on the 2002 box-office flop "Rollerball."

Pellicano, who served 2 1/2 years in federal prison for possessing illegal weapons, has pleaded not guilty to charges in a 111-count indictment accusing him of bugging phones and bribing police to get information on celebrities and others.

McTiernan was originally scheduled to be sentenced two weeks ago but that hearing was delayed after his lawyer asked that he be allowed to withdraw the plea and fight the charge. Attorney Milton Grimes said at the time that McTiernan hadn't had adequate legal representation when he entered the plea upon a previous lawyer's advice.

On Monday, the defense argued that when McTiernan spoke to the FBI agent he was tired from having returned from a long trip to Asia, was taking antibiotics for a sinus infection and had gone off his anti-depression medication.

The judge was not persuaded.

"I find these arguments completely lacking in credibility," she said.

The 56-year-old McTiernan did not speak.

Grimes said outside court he was disappointed in Fischer's ruling and would appeal.

He disagreed with Fischer's observation that McTiernan "lived a privileged life and simply wants to continue that."

"He's probably one of the most down-to-earth people I've met in Hollywood in my 30 years working here," Grimes said of McTiernan.

Authorities say Pellicano, who is scheduled to go on trial next year, is the ringleader of a scheme that was used to get dirt on clients in legal disputes.

Prosecutors claim Pellicano bribed law enforcement and phone company employees to gather information and that he illegally wiretapped Sylvester Stallone and other Hollywood notables. They say he also had police officers run the names of more than 60 people, including comedians Garry Shandling and Kevin Nealon, through government databases.

Pellicano, who is jailed without bail pending trial, has said he is innocent. He speculated during a jailhouse interview with The Associated Press last year that he might be the target of overzealous prosecutors.

Before he was imprisoned on the weapons charges, Pellicano's celebrity clients had at one time or another included such names as Elizabeth Taylor, Michael Jackson and Stallone, as well as high-profile Hollywood lawyers and agents.
Title: Re: McTiernan: Post Rollerball
Post by: Heinsbergen on September 25, 2007, 05:32:19 AM
i bet he could make a nice movie out of that story. of course after coming out of jail.