Xixax Film Forum

The Director's Chair => Martin Scorsese => Topic started by: sphinx on January 23, 2003, 10:48:29 PM

Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: sphinx on January 23, 2003, 10:48:29 PM
the chicago sun-times reports the following about scorsese's Gangs of New York:

Whilst speaking with The Chicago Sun Times, Martin Scorsese indicated there'd be no 'directors cut' to view on the DVD even though versions ranging from 156 mins to 220 mins were screened for test audiences: "The debate was about how you get a picture to play, not about how long it was. This is a film that needed to be screened that way because it contains a lot of information. How much was getting across? How much wasn't getting across? How much was getting across that you didn't need to get across, because you could just drop or forget it?". At one point it was too short: "I added three or four minutes, clarified certain other things. The rhythm was still off, I felt. This went on and on over a period of about a year. At one point I put too much back in". So the 168 minute cut IS the director's cut and there won't be another version - HOWEVER, Scorsese did mention at a press conference on Tuesday to Reforma that he would like to include around 38 minutes of extra scenes on the disc (most likely as separate deleted scenes rather than reincorporated back into the cut).
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 24, 2003, 12:15:12 AM
That is kind of disapointing, I was hoping for there to be a directors cut that is some masterpiece but I guess not.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: Cecil on January 24, 2003, 10:41:23 AM
and i guess we can stop blaming miramax for making scorsese cut it down. oh well, i guess scorsese just made a shitty movie
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: ©brad on January 24, 2003, 10:42:29 AM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedand i guess we can stop blaming miramax for making scorsese cut it down. oh well, i guess scorsese just made a shitty movie

You're nuts. Cecil b. Demented is a shitty movie.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: Cecil on January 24, 2003, 10:52:43 AM
oh you actually liked gangs of new york? okay, sorry... i thought everyone was in agreement that it sucked.

maybe i AM nuts, but then again maybe im not.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: RegularKarate on January 24, 2003, 12:57:00 PM
This isn't the least bit surprising seeing as how it was already discussed here that Scorceze doesn't believe in director's cuts.

As far as Gangs goes, it was a good movie, it just wasn't really up to par for Marty, which is a shame seeing how long he spent on it.

Still liked it though.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 24, 2003, 01:18:36 PM
Gangs had so much potential, and I see sometimes in the movie where it was met and sometimes I was just thinking "WHat the fuck?" The dialouge should have been better, some things should have been left out.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: ©brad on January 25, 2003, 07:55:04 AM
I question a John Waters fan saying anything bad about a Scorsese movie. Listening to the incoherent babble of John Waters fanatics is about as fun as cancer.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: Duck Sauce on January 25, 2003, 01:32:43 PM
Quote from: cbrad4dI question a John Waters fan saying anything bad about a Scorsese movie. Listening to the incoherent babble of John Waters fanatics is about as fun as cancer.


You are so much better than everybody cbrad4d, thank you for blessing us with your presence.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: picolas on January 25, 2003, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: Duck SauceYou are so much better than everybody cbrad4d, thank you for blessing us with your presence.

i'm glad to see you two are finally getting along!
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 25, 2003, 08:00:11 PM
No way a longer version of this movie can change the terrible story that goes through out it. All we would likely get is a more painful version of the one we have now. This is not a good movie because it has many problems right at the base of the movie, with story and acting. I can't recommend the movie, but I can recommend Daniel Day Lewis's performance.

~rougerum
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: MacGuffin on January 26, 2003, 05:01:04 PM
From the letters section of The Los Angeles Times. I suspect it was written by GT:

Not digging it

What with all the Oscar hype surrounding Martin Scorsese's "Gangs of New York," allow me to be the first to offer the following criticism: This is a silly, juvenile, slasher-flick of a movie that reminded me more of a period-piece remake of "The Warriors" than anything else. I kept waiting for some face-painted thugs on roller skates wearing New York Yankee uniforms to join in one of those Five Points rumbles. "Can yooooooou dig it?"

The fact that Scorsese admits the idea for the film had been with him since he was 7 says it all: This movie appears for all the world like it was conceived and directed by a 7-year-old.
Title: GONR director's cut statement
Post by: Gold Trumpet on January 26, 2003, 10:10:45 PM
haha, naw. My main beef still deals with the film's decision to be a generalist film on a subject like the old Hollywood films instead of trying to going in depth and under the skin for a story with air of anything remotely refreshing. You can tell this with how everyone in the film Hollywood acts there part, where they do nothing to really gain the feeling of the time except some minor things (voice change mostly) and then you see Daniel Day Lewis give the performance of a lifetime.

~rougerum