Now i dont know why i love this band, coz the rest of the music i listen to is nothing like them, but hey i thought i would just share my passion for them and see if you guys agreed?
a beach boys thread? how could u, look you made lisa throw up.
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Quote from: cbrad4da beach boys thread? how could u, look you made lisa throw up.
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mess off, the beach boys rock.
Love The Beach Boys. Brian Wilson had so much influence on rock music and doesn't get much recognition.
Pet Sounds is one of the greatest albums of all time. The instrumental tracks on it were definitely an influence on the PDL score, by the way...
This is my post in support of the Beach Boys.
Surfin' USA is the song that briefly stole my life.
Quote from: GhostboyPet Sounds is one of the greatest albums of all time.
The Beatles thought so too. Sgt. Pepper's was their answer to Pet Sounds in a friendly rivalry between the two bands. This is a must:
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Fucking love em...almost as much as The Beatles. It was cool to hear one of their songs in Boogie Nights.
My dad is really into the Beach Boys, I grew up listening to them, even went to one of their concerts once a LONG time ago.
Quote from: tremoloslothThis is my post in support of the Beach Boys.
...and this is mine.
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: tremoloslothThis is my post in support of the Beach Boys.
...and this is mine.
Looks like the first time we support the same thing. :wink:
Anybody know how much $$ Wilson got screwed out of>?
I did see Brian Wilson on TV recently and he looked really fucked up, he could hardly walk.
But still a genius, and Pet Sounds is one of the best albums ever made by any one ever.
I`ll have to try and get hold of that "The Pet Sounds sessions" thing.
Respect to the Beach Boys.
Hang on to your Ego is killer.
Damn, I love the Beach Boys. Brian Wilson is a genius. Just listen to some of the lesser know stuff such as Surf's Up and I Just Wasnt Made for These Times.
If you like Brian Wilson get the all star tribute to Brian Wilson DVD. It even has Aimee Mann and Michael Penn doing a song.
I fucking love the beach boys, and i know that it was all brian and not mike love. But if you listen to some of the " smile" stuff , some of it was too fucking druggy, but not in a cool way. He went past pet sounds at one point, and he just crawled into madness. " cool cool water" has one of the best melodys EVER. But try and sit through that song with out getting pissed off, I wish he was in his " pet sounds" frame of mind when he wrote that song, because it would not have so chaotic. I love the man
caroline no, god that was great
one more thing to bitch about i hate that part of good vibrations where it goes " I'm picking up good vibrations" it ruins what could of been a great song, i love that part of the song where it goes " I close my eyes.........."
damnit someone get me a theromin and a coke.....
Yo, word is bond with my butterscotch jones. good vibrations is off the meat chain til they bust out with that I'm Picking Up Good Vibrations part. Shit is wack. But you know that Pet Sounds is the best album in the history of gaddamn history, believe dat. I'm gonna hollah back youngin. Peace.
Quote from: motherfuckerYo, word is bond with my butterscotch jones. good vibrations is off the meat chain til they bust out with that I'm Picking Up Good Vibrations part. Shit is wack. But you know that Pet Sounds is the best album in the history of gaddamn history, believe dat. I'm gonna hollah back youngin. Peace.
damnit if brian wilson can crossover to young black men in the navy, why is it that my demographics are so low in the american indian death metal community. ::shakes fist:
Everyone says how Revolver was the first album to bring rock n roll into serious art respect and it goes with history for The Beatles still having this respect, but for me, Revolver only seemed like small little touches into something more art wise. The full explosion of rock into art, was definitely with Pet Sounds. The Beatles though were able to benefit the most after the explosian. But the Beach Boys were the first ones to do it in my opinion. Brian Wilson was and is a genius indeed.
~rougerum
Which Beach Boys song is in Boogie Nights?
Quote from: russiasushaWhich Beach Boys song is in Boogie Nights?
"God Only Knows" starts with Buck's Stereo Store commercial.
o yeah. I need to watch Boogie Nights again. It's been too long.
i didn't like the use of God Only Knows in BN.
yes, i love the Beach Boys as well.
the Smile stuff was a big influence on the PDL soundtrack. the Smiley Smile track Fall Breaks Into Winter would almost perfectly fit in.
does anyone own the Endless Harmony DVD? supposedly it has some footage of the Smile sessions and unreleased tracks.
oh yes.....Pet Sounds and Surf's Up are both in the works for a 5.1 CD.....Pet Sounds is supposed to have the video they made of I Just Wasn't Made For These Times
hey, Revolver is pretty special. listen to Tomorrow Never Knows........i always read that it was Rubber Soul that made Wilson want to do Pet Sounds.....i've never once read his reaction to Revolver........and then hearing Sgt. Pepper made him give up Smile........damn that Mike Love.......supposedly he's holding the Smile Session Box Set up as well
Mike Love = big asshole.
It's a huge shame that Brian Wilson went nutty during the Smile era. He had made claims that Smile was going to blow Pet Sounds out of the water. Then he lost it and Smile was never completed. Rock history might be different if things had worked out.
Just wanted to add my little anecdote...
I've actually had the pleasure of meeting Brian Wilson at one of his concerts a few summers back. i bought this pet sounds live in london poster and had him sign it. And when i got to him i said something dorky like, "If you ever need an apprentice in the studio, I'm your man." Which is really embarrasing in hindsight. Anyway, the weird thing is that he never looked up at me once (or anyone for that matter) and his assistant had to remind him to sign the poster. Which is kind of a sad story when you think about it... but still a cool experience.
"Don't Talk" is the best song EVER.
Beach Boys: Best American Band of the 60s.
Period.
Not to mention Sunflower and Surf's Up (1970 and '71, respectively). Both amazing albums. If you like Grandaddy, Flaming Lips, Mercury Rev, Olivia Tremor Control....god, about a million bands.....it's because of the Beach Boys.
Quote from: MeshBeach Boys: Best American Band of the 60s.
Period.
They were great, but doesn't Velvet Underground at least tie?
I also put anything Phil Spector did on an equal footing with either of those, but I realize I'm likely to be in the minority there.
But come on...
The Velvet Underground.
Quote from: godardianQuote from: MeshBeach Boys: Best American Band of the 60s.
They were great, but doesn't Velvet Underground at least tie?
I also put anything Phil Spector did on an equal footing with either of those, but I realize I'm likely to be in the minority there.
But come on... The Velvet Underground.
Honestly, I don't think they even come close to a tie. Here's some reasoning as to why:
-The Beach Boys had a dozen indelible hits (conservatively) before the VU were but a twinkle behind Warhol's thick glasses.
-Good Vibrations may be both the catchiest and most artistic and most influential American single of the era. Flabbergasting achievement.
-Pet Sounds is hands down the best American album of the 60s.
-Smile would've done what the VU did, had it come out.
-Beach Boys albums contemporary with the VU's classic period: Pet Sounds, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Sunflower, Surf's Up. Even up against classics like the VU & Nico, the VU S/T, and White Light/White Heat, The Beach Boys make a strong case.
Don't get me wrong now: I both admire and enjoy the VU. They were the apex of unique during their time and they are certainly as influential as the Beach Boys, if not moreso. But ask me which band I thought was the more genius, the more tuneful, the more listenable, the more lyrically compelling, etc., etc., etc., and I'll go with The Beach Boys nearly every time.
Watch me get smacked down for this, now: Creedence were as good a band as the VU and nearly as influential.......
*ducks*
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I also put anything Phil Spector did on an equal footing with either of those, but I realize I'm likely to be in the minority there.
Name some names and we'll see where this goes....
Quote from: MeshCreedence were as good a band as the VU and nearly as influential.......
*ducks*
:evil: Hippie. Might as well hold up a lighter and bellow, "ZZZZZZZZEPPPP!!!"
...okay, that's out of my system. You can stop ducking now. I feel a little better.
As for Phil. well, my favorite stuff of his was The Ronettes stuff and The Crystals stuff. And "River Deep, Mountain High."
I think the Boys may have something on VU when it comes to innovation in production, and they were doubtlessly catchier.
But I think VU changed pop music in a way the Beach Boys didn't. And lyrically, my god... the Beach Boys, to me, are not about lyrical innovation. If anything, they crystallize and perfect the pre-existing lyrical notions to the point of pastiche, but... in the conceptual and lyrical departments, I'm confident in saying VU has Beach Boys beat.
i hate to agree with mesh, but yeah saying VU Were as good as the beach boys, well thats just dumb
and yeah creedance on their worst day meant more then VU
VU'S LEGACY will be that the inspired a lot of bad bands to use white noise as a cop out
its a shame that people never pick up on the fact that they had great melodys
people will always talk about sister ray, but its the melodys that struck me
but still you cant compare them to the beach boys
brian wilson changed the world of music forever
you cant compare that with vu making the world ready for yo la tango
Hey, was that Zep bashing I heard? C'mon. Seriously. The Rain Song, Over The Hills And Far Away, Ramble On, Hey Hey What Can I Do, and Stairway... I mean, there's no need for Zep hate. Look what wonderful songs they gave us.
Also, Heroine and Black Angel Death Song are better than everything CCR ever did put together.
Should I duck now?
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Should I duck now?
oh i would say so
Quote from: SoNowThenHey, was that Zep bashing I heard? C'mon. Seriously. The Rain Song, Over The Hills And Far Away, Ramble On, Hey Hey What Can I Do, and Stairway... I mean, there's no need for Zep hate. Look what wonderful songs they gave us.
I can handle "When the Levee Breaks" and "Stairway to Heaven" okay...
...the rest is what comes into my head when someone uses the phrase "dinosaur rock."
Quote from: SantaClauseWasA BlackMani hate to agree with mesh, but yeah saying VU Were as good as the beach boys, well thats just dumb
Trenchant. :roll:
Yeah, but look at the songs I mentioned. Most are their wonderful acoustic tunes. I mean, Hey Hey What Can I Do... that's my "falling in love" song. And The Rain Song is just beautiful. I dunno.
And as for CCR, I thought John Fogerty's solo album was cute. Y'know, Centerfield.
Quote from: SoNowThenAlso, Heroine and Black Angel Death Song are better than everything CCR ever did put together.
Should I duck now?
I'm throwing nothing except respect your way for
that.
Quote from: godardianQuote from: SantaClauseWasA BlackMani hate to agree with mesh, but yeah saying VU Were as good as the beach boys, well thats just dumb
Trenchant. :roll:
you seem to roll your eyes a lot
is that because you have ben wah balls up your ass
Quote from: SantaClauseWasA BlackManQuote from: godardianQuote from: SantaClauseWasA BlackMani hate to agree with mesh, but yeah saying VU Were as good as the beach boys, well thats just dumb
Trenchant. :roll:
you seem to roll your eyes a lot
When it comes to some things, there's really nothing more to say than that.
I love VU era Lou Reed to death, but if you pit Reed against Pet Sounds era Brian Wilson, Brian wins. Both made huge contributions to the world of music, Brian's was just larger and richer. Lou Reed was cooler though.
from pitchfork:
Brian Wilson: "Wonderful"/"Child Is Father of the Man"
37 years after these songs were supposed to have further upped pop's ante from Wilson's prior teenage symphonies to God, Smile is upon us. Hearing them now, it's downright tragic to imagine what could have been. It's not because the songs don't sound great: Brian's singing is incredible, and the arrangements are as close as you're going to get to the original tracks without being sued by Mike Love. "Wonderful" is the same arrangement as appeared on the 1993 Good Vibrations box set, with harpsichord, sparse brass and pizzicato strings, and of course the delicate backing vocals, now taken by The Wondermints. Brian's voice seems weightier now, but that's to be expected-- the surprise is how tender he can still be.
"Child Is Father of the Man" has never appeared on an official album in complete form, and this version is majestic. The backing vocals of "Wonderful" are transformed into counterpoint over a new chord progression and Van Dyke Parks' typically playful prose: "One, maybe not one, maybe you too are wonderin'/ Wonderin' who, wonderful you are wonderin'." Clarinet, harpsichord and orchestral brass elegantly flesh out what is already art song. The second half of the song introduces the familiar "child is father of the man" refrain from "Surf's Up", released on the 1971 album of the same name. Now, it's all starting to come together. Life is grand, and Smile is here. [Dominique Leone; September 7th, 2004]
the new SmiLE came out today. it turned out better than i thought it would. Brian's singing ain't quite what it was, but not bad. I like the new lyrics and arrangements.
thumbs up
you can listen to it free at www.smilethealbum.com
I absolutely love it. I saw them do it twice live and it was only the second time round that it really hit me. 'Child is Father of the Man' is indeed amazing. The strings they've added at the end are so powerful. And the SMiLE version of Good Vibrations makes the hair on the back of my neck stand on end. The build up to choir like "Aaaaaah" before the end of the song is so catchy that you forget everything. You can really hear what genius Good Vibrations is on this album.
"a teenage symphony to God".
Quote from: MacGuffinLove The Beach Boys. Brian Wilson had so much influence on rock music and doesn't get much recognition.
Hi! I´m new here, but i hope stay for a long time.. I think the same about B. Wilson, he made a lil diferent rock music, every time i listen any song of them, i wanna be on vacations!
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cause Voz is AlguienEstolamiPantalones
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don't worry Cinephile i was kidding, in fact Voz is one of the most beautiful human beings i ever met
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Do not buy the SMiLE DVD. Its recorded in front of a tv audience in a tv studio and the camera never stops craning and everyone looks at the camera the whole time and its lacks all the excitement soul, spirit and energy that the five minutes of footage from the Royal Festival Hall performance has. Im so annoyed.
Quote from: ®edlumDo not buy the SMiLE DVD. Its recorded in front of a tv audience in a tv studio and the camera never stops craning and everyone looks at the camera the whole time and its lacks all the excitement soul, spirit and energy that the five minutes of footage from the Royal Festival Hall performance has. Im so annoyed.
too late. i bought it. i haven't watched the concert yet, just the documentary on the making of the album.
is there a more satisfying sound on earth than that of a classic Beach Boys record? specifically, is there a more satisfying sound than Brian Wilson's falsetto?
Quote from: CCBaxteris there a more satisfying sound on earth than that of a classic Beach Boys record? specifically, is there a more satisfying sound than Brian Wilson's falsetto?
not too dang many.
What does Brian Wilson want for Christmas?
http://www.brianwilson.com/
How cool is that? At least for folks who can afford to donate $100.
If I had 100 dollars I'd buy some crack. But after that, If I got another 100 dollars, I'd buy a cell phone. Then, after that 100 dollars I'd get Brian Wilson to sing on my voice mail.
revisionist weirdo..
Okay, the last post in this thread was before the Smile Sessions were released.
Anyway, for most of my life, I've thought The Beach Boys were lame. And that's pretty true, they've released a whole bunch of rubbish and they've never really been too consistent for me. We look at The Beatles who released very catchy pop rock ditties before releasing a series of masterpieces from around 1965 onwards (that said, they both had mindless pop phases before striking gold). However there was a time when Brian Wilson and friends (but mainly Brian Wilson) were creating very special music. I think the Beach Boys are part of a story based on unfulfilled potential.
I don't think I'll ever love the whole thing but Pet Sounds was a rather dramatic achievement. Wilson's approach to arranging songs is really fantastic to think about and on top of that, some of the tracks have a great hidden ambience- the actual reverb and sense of space in the sound is incredible. Consider Caroline No, arguably the best track on the album- the echoey percussion and the relatively uncluttered arrangement. It's pretty great.
But the main point of this post was the Smile Sessions. Over the last few weeks I've been listening to some Pet Sounds but mostly a whole lot of the Smile Sessions. Unfinished failure or not, I think if you take out one or two songs it's kinda almost a masterpiece. More often than not, the songs benefit from their oddly structured and edited nature. It's quirky, unconventional but brilliant. There's a greater sense of contrast on this album than Pet Sounds, where the happy and sad came together rather smoothly. It's on this album where I can reconcile the sunshiney-ness and major chordiness of the Beach Boys with the actual genius behind the music.
I'm happy that this wasn't completed back in the 60s, I'm glad that fans had to listen to various iterations of the thing before finally reaching this stage. I imagine if this was completed when it was supposed to, it may have lost its haphazard charm. The Sessions are supposed to be an effort at reconstruction but it's not exactly quite there. It's not perfect, few albums are (even Abbey Road has its errors). What I'm sad about is that Brian Wilson never got to continue with his vision, he never had the support he really needed and the project was probably too much of a challenge for him. It's possible that the best of Brian Wilson was yet to come. You hear the stories of him driving along with a friend and hearing Strawberry Fields Forever and saying 'The Beatles got there first'. The Beatles were formidable rivals but they had the total support of almost everyone, Wilson didn't have that (not to mention the drugs).
But at the very least we should be happy we have the colourful mess that is The Smile Sessions.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ2OKoLpNBM
On another note, I'm not convinced Good Vibrations belongs on the album.
I was so huge into the Smile Sessions always hoping for a magical box set.
Then it was announced. I ordered it through Canada because it was cheaper than the US Amazon even with shipping costs.
Got the thing, and I haven't even listened to the discs outside of the main album one.
I think it's because I had just listened to any fragment I could get for so long, I don't feel I could hear anything new.
I got into it back when Napster was still a thing, so I would search for every fragment.
I think someone made their own mix of the mythical full length double sided single version of Heroes & Villains, but I didn't know it was fan made. It was pretty cool. I think they just used what was available at the time - stuff from Good Vibrations box set where they first officially released Smile era stuff.
My favorite album is Radiohead - OK Computer.
2 is The Beach Boys - Pet Sounds
Smile Sessions may be my favorite recordings though.
I couldn't understand everyone loosing their lid over the Fleet Foxes when their debut came out. To me, it seemed they made a band sound derived from Cabin Essence. I came around later on FF with Helplessness Blues though.
There comes a point where you've experienced a piece of art so much that it becomes hard to really feel it anymore.
It's sorta like when you're driving and talk on the phone, and you get off and you can't really remember the driving part of the experience. Your brain splits in two sorta. Last time I watched PDL it was kinda like this.
The Beach Boys make it hard to be a fan though. It seems every 2 days they put out a new box set and every one has some 'new' tracks that 'you just got to hear.' It's like when baseball cards killed themselves by producing too many types. It gets to a point where you can't possibly keep up with it, so you just give up totally.
Yeah, I pretty much only have interest in the main album. Outside Smile and some of Pet Sounds, I can't say I'm a particularly big fan of The Beach Boys. If at all really, the story of the band is often more interesting than the music.
And I never understood the brilliance behind Fleet Foxes either, they had a few good tracks and did the cool harmony thing but I couldn't get into either of their so-called masterpieces.
There are some good songs spread out through the post Pet Sounds albums.
A lot of the mostly complete songs from the Smile sessions made it onto albums in basically the same form, or completely different. Sometimes they would add unneeded stuff to them.
When I was getting into it, I bought a few of the two-fers that would have 2 albums on one CD and then usually some bonus tracks. The Sunflower/Surf's Up two-fer was the latest album I got. There are some great gems/non-singles pre-Pet Sounds, too. Stuff like Your Summer Dream blows me away and I don't know if it ever makes their compilations.
I was just wondering the other day if Mad Men brings in a Manson type, if they will also have a Dennis Wilson type.