voting for the Xixax Dekapenticon

Started by Jeremy Blackman, November 03, 2003, 05:05:36 PM

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I hate it because now I'm thinking of all these films I forgot saying D'OH! at the top of my lungs, but that's ok.
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Gold Trumpet

Quote from: themodernage02one other question: how were films nominated for the xixax end of year awards?  i wasnt around in january.

For around two weeks, a large thread had all the categories for the end of year nominations. People would reply and fill in the categories with their choices. Like the usual award show deal goes, everyone was able to pick 5 films/people/etc for each category. After 2 weeks, people could only do this by private messaging JB so it wasn't too obvious what the winner was for each category.

I think an official thread of campaigning for films next year should definitely happen. People won't just listen to "see this film" and automatically go rent it and love it. Those campaigning will be forced to discuss their movies to get other people to want to see it. There's also no way for anything to be rigged. No one can give anyone else anything to anyone to make them really sway their votes, like money or whatever. They can only discuss films and get other people interested, but hey, this happens everyday indirectly here anyways. It won't be easy to convince anyone either. Everyone wants their favorite films on that nomination list so competition will be stiff.

But, I think restrictions should be put on the thread. Open it only 2 months before the nomination process so someone isn't given an eternity to mouth off about a film. This will also serve nicely to hype up the awards without having to lay banners everywhere on the board.

Banky


aclockworkjj

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Pedro

Quote from: aclockworkjjam i the only one that woulda had The English Patient on here?
probably

Jeremy Blackman

GT, I still really don't like this campaigning idea. Something about it just seems wrong.

This is supposed to be introspective, not mass manipulation. Why don't we just go on recommending movies for movies' sake, and let nature run its course?

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Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanGT, I still really don't like this campaigning idea. Something about it just seems wrong.

This is supposed to be introspective, not mass manipulation. Why don't we just go on recommending movies for movies' sake, and let nature run its course?

There is an idea to letting nature run its course, but then there is also the purpose of this board. This board is a movie discussion board that tries to get people to talk about their favorite films but also further their range of what movies they see without some professor slamming down a list of "classic films" down their throats. Thing is, a lot of foreign films and older film threads are not really that popular and only get visited by a certain group of the members here. They are just single threads that site alone. What I think just this thread has done is taken discussion to some outside movies, like My Life to Live and The Conformist, and brought it to the thread that is most popular and is getting everyone excited about an upcoming event. Because of the excitement of this list, people are given a drive to search further outside their boxes. Also, there is no authoritarian person saying "this", "that" and "those" to everyone on what to like, but people giving their recommendations and speaking passionately about them. This event has gotten people excited about some outside the box films (My Life to Live) and discussion in it has gotten people interested in others (The Conformist). Making an official thread to predate these awards only allows the excitement of the event to go into further discussions.

Also, I think a lot of the words used to sell this thread really turned you off, JB.

modage

even if seeing the recommended film doesnt result in someone adding it to their list, it will atleast result in some interesting discussion.  like, theres not a snowflakes chance in hell i'd be adding My Life To Live to my list anytime soon over Batman or Big Trouble In Little China, but i'll still see it now to see what the fuss is about.  and then enjoy bitching to the group about 'whats the big deal?' till someone more intelligent explains to me "what the big deal is". you know?
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Jeremy Blackman

Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThere is an idea to letting nature run its course, but then there is also the purpose of this board.

What I meant is let nature run its course on this board and do what we usually do. Post something about a movie you love. But... going around for months saying "vote for this! vote for this!"... Do we really need that?

Gold Trumpet

Quote from: Jeremy Blackman
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetThere is an idea to letting nature run its course, but then there is also the purpose of this board.

What I meant is let nature run its course on this board and do what we usually do. Post something about a movie you love. But... going around for months saying "vote for this! vote for this!"... Do we really need that?

I don't think anyone will see any effectiveness in saying "vote for this!" or any other slogan of advertisement. They'll likely realize the ineffectiveness of just naming a title and saying go see it. At best, I'm thinking someone would be convinced to rent it at best. Convinced of greatness in the film? Hardly not. People trying to speak about titles will be forced to discuss them. This happens here in every single you way you can imagine, so why not in the context of applying it to an event so popular so the message can be even louder? Like I said, strict limitations to how long this thread will exist should be implemented to keep it from turning into a shouting match.

Find Your Magali

Sure, I love the idea of campaigning. Of pitching films. Of letting our enthusiasm for films flow all over this board, so that we can raise the level of debate and enlighten each other.

I want to see people write passionately about why "Grave of the Fireflies" is more effective and compelling than any live-action war film you've ever seen. And why you need to go see it.

I want to see people campaign fervently about why the European classics of the 50s, 60s and 70s are relevant and worthwhile to twentysomething cinephiles of the year 2003.

I want someone to write a brilliant pitch for a film that I never heard of, or overlooked, so that I go out of my way to find a copy and see if it's as great as advertised.

And I want plain old fun smackdowns, too. I mean, I thoroughly enjoyed "Donnie Darko," but anyone who thinks that it's better than "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is a bit of a loon.  :wink:

aclockworkjj

Quote from: Find Your MagaliAnd I want plain old fun smackdowns, too.
Amelie ....to your rootie-poo asses!!!!!  haha.  jj thinks the amelie should be da shmack-a-lacka-down!!!
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Quote from: RegularKarateLadies and Gentlemen, I give you THE LIST:

2001: A Space Odysee    
400 Blows
8 1/2      
Adaptation        
Amelie        
Annie Hall        
Apocolypse Now        
Barry Lyndon
Barton Fink
Being John Malkovich      
Big Lebowski      
Blue Velvet        
Boogie Nights      
Brazil        
Casino        
Cassablanca
Citizen Kane        
Clockwork Orange, A      
Do the Right Thing      
Donnie Darko      
Dr. Strangelove        
Elephant Man        
Empire Strikes Back      
Eyes Wide Shut      
Fargo                
Fight Club      
Godfather        
Godfather part II      
Good, the Bad, and the Ugly    
Goodfellas        
Jackie Brown        
Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Magnolia        
Matrix        
Mulholland Dr.        
My Life to Live
One Flew over the Cuckoo's nest
Psycho
Pulp Fiction    
Punch Drunk Love      
Raging Bull        
Requiem for a Dream      
Royal Tennenbaums    
Rushmore        
Seven Samurai      
Shawshank Redemption
Shining        
Singin' in the Rain      
Taxi Driver      
Vertigo        

Pardon any typos... I was in a hurry

Anyway, there it is, if you didn't vote, I'd better not hear too much bitching from you.

EDIT: DO NOT VOTE YET

ono

Quote from: Find Your MagaliAnd I want plain old fun smackdowns, too. I mean, I thoroughly enjoyed "Donnie Darko," but anyone who thinks that it's better than "Raiders of the Lost Ark" is a bit of a loon.  :wink:
Then call me a bit of a loon.  :yawn:

godardian

Quote from: themodernage02i visit Idle Chatter much less than the 'main' forums.  .

me, too. mainly just for this, actually. and to join in any hot-button provocations/debates going on. not too much actual idle chatter really interests me.
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Pas

No chinese movie makes me sad. In The Mood for Love, that I actually forgot to put myself, espcially. Like on all lists of everything, America is over-represented. Anyway, they're all 9.5/10 movies or higher in my head so I don't mind.

I congratulate again the work of JB and all the others.