Overrated Directors?

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Pubrick

#105
May 21, 2004, 12:17:38 PM
i think what u mean is "overpraised".
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bonanzataz

#106
May 21, 2004, 01:01:32 PM
Quote from: El ScorchozBut 2001 in particular is just one film I won't go along with.  I have a strong suspicion 90% of the people who claim they like it, truly don't. I just think it's easy to read a bunch of reviews and articles on why the movie is great and then claim that you saw the same qualities in it. It's an easy movie to claim to like because most mainstream audiences don't, and it's no secret film buffs love liking films that are said to be challenging.

that's bullshit. that's like P's argument that said the only reason people liked kill bill was b/c quentin made it. such crap. i watch 2001 all the time. do i do it so i can tell all my non-existent cool film friends that i watched it? no. i watch it b/c i enjoy it. same reason i saw kill bill 2 three times and kill bill 1 about 20. the movies give me enjoyment. if there are people out there who really dislike those movies and just like them b/c other people do, good for them, they're just afraid. but to say 90% of the people who say they like the film really hate it is just idiocy. you don't have to like the movie, i don't think any less of you for not liking it. i love it and could watch it 500 more times before getting sick of it.
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El Scorchoz

#107
May 22, 2004, 01:21:39 AM
Quote from: bonanzataz
Quote from: El ScorchozBut 2001 in particular is just one film I won't go along with.  I have a strong suspicion 90% of the people who claim they like it, truly don't. I just think it's easy to read a bunch of reviews and articles on why the movie is great and then claim that you saw the same qualities in it. It's an easy movie to claim to like because most mainstream audiences don't, and it's no secret film buffs love liking films that are said to be challenging.

that's bullshit. that's like P's argument that said the only reason people liked kill bill was b/c quentin made it. such crap. i watch 2001 all the time. do i do it so i can tell all my non-existent cool film friends that i watched it? no. i watch it b/c i enjoy it. same reason i saw kill bill 2 three times and kill bill 1 about 20. the movies give me enjoyment. if there are people out there who really dislike those movies and just like them b/c other people do, good for them, they're just afraid. but to say 90% of the people who say they like the film really hate it is just idiocy. you don't have to like the movie, i don't think any less of you for not liking it. i love it and could watch it 500 more times before getting sick of it.

I don't think you can compare the two. Kill Bill is fun and entertaining at the very least. 2001 just sucks.
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El Scorchoz

#108
May 22, 2004, 01:23:06 AM
Quote from: SoNowThenWhy?

He'd jizz his pants over what you just posted.  :wink:

Is Ray Carney the guy who just likes avant garde, no plot kind of movies?
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SoNowThen

#109
May 22, 2004, 02:33:19 AM
Well, I guess, Kinda. He loves Cassavetes. And that's about it. Though he talks about some guy named Mark Rappaport all the time, too.

I was just reading some of his stuff today. Basically he rags on Kubrick and Welles, and says LA Confidential and Pulp Fiction are pieces of shit. Kinda funny, but damn do I disagree.

You may argue that 2001 is pretentious, overbearing, confused, even boring... but if you're not in the least bit awed at Kurick's control of framing and pace, then you have no soul, imo. Carney dismisses pure form as being kitschy, therefore he refuses to admire it in any director -- it would seem anyway... I guess avant-garde cheapo productions are just as much a form as anything...
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When those who hated capital and consumption (and Jews) in the 20th century murdered some hundred million people, and the poster children for the struggle against international capitalism and America are now fanatical Islamic terrorists, this puts recent enthusiasts in an awkward position. Most of them are too dense and shameless to appreciate it, and far too many are taken in by the moralistic and paternalistic rhetoric of the Left.

bonanzataz

#110
May 22, 2004, 01:00:01 PM
Quote from: El ScorchozI don't think you can compare the two. Kill Bill is fun and entertaining at the very least. 2001 just sucks.

not my point. you're arguing that i don't really like 2001, i only think i do b/c everybody else does, but i don't need you to tell me what i like or don't like. thank you.
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NEON MERCURY

#111
May 22, 2004, 03:54:14 PM
Quote from: El Scorchoz. 2001 just sucks.




...sorry for the large pic but 2001, besides being my fav. kubrick film, also has the most kick ass pipmed out poster ever...

el scorchoz, just b/c you don t like this film doesn t mean it 'sucks'....

Julius Orange

#112
May 22, 2004, 07:28:50 PM
Shrek (is an overrated director)

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Alethia

#113
May 22, 2004, 09:24:46 PM
shrek is an overrated director?

Julius Orange

#114
May 23, 2004, 12:58:42 AM
Sorry.

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ElPandaRoyal

#115
May 23, 2004, 06:17:37 AM
What the hell???
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Alethia

#116
May 23, 2004, 09:31:47 AM
:lol:

El Duderino

#117
May 23, 2004, 01:43:37 PM
what did Shrek direct?
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mutinyco

#118
May 23, 2004, 01:52:00 PM
2001 is the greatest motion picture of the 20th Century. Period. It was the apex.

It singularly advanced the medium on just about every level, aesthetically, conceptually and technically. It bridged the ground between avant gard and mainstream success. And its story and ideas, in terms of seriously attempting to deal with man's evolution and his place within the universe, are larger than any other film.

This was IT.
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ElPandaRoyal

#119
May 23, 2004, 02:21:06 PM
Quote from: El Duderinowhat did Shrek direct?

Quote from: Julius OrangeSorry.

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