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http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,10643386^13780,00.html
Bosnians to honour Bruce Lee
By Samir Krilic in Sarajevo
September 2, 2004
IN Bosnia, where one man's hero is often another man's villain, citizens have decided to honour someone Serbs, Croats and Muslims can all look up to - kung fu great Bruce Lee.
Lee is best remembered for single-handedly taking on dozens of bad guys in a series of kung fu flicks.
But the statue of the Chinese action hero in the ethnically-divided city of Mostar is intended to remind people of Lee's lesser known values - "loyalty, friendship, skill and justice", said Veselin Gatalo, a writer who helped come up with the idea.
Lee acted in a series of Hong Kong films in the early 1970s that propelled him to stardom first in Asia, then Europe and eventually the US.
His Hollywood debut came in 1973 with the hugely popular Enter the Dragon, a box office success Lee never lived to witness. He died a month before the film hit US theatres of a swelling of the brain, aged 32.
But can a monument to a karate-chopping, high-kicking B-movie star unite Mostar, a town that was both physically and psychologically scarred in Bosnia's 1992-95 war?
Even now, Roman Catholic Croats and Muslims still live apart, sending their children to different schools, watching their own television stations and cheering for rival soccer teams.
"Lee is a true international hero and is a hero to all ethnicities in Bosnia and that's why we picked him," Mr Gatalo said.
Bosnia's war killed hundreds of thousands of Serbs, Croats and Muslims and left the country divided into a Serb republic and a Muslim-Croat federation.
In Mostar at least, Gatalo, an ethnic Croat, hopes a statue to Lee will help erase the city's tarnished image as a place of bitter ethnic rivalries.
"We want that people, when you say Mostar, respond: 'That's the city that has a monument to Bruce Lee,'" Mr Gatalo said.
Mr Gatalo and a friend, Nino Raspudic, grew up on Bruce Lee movies. They persuaded Boris Jovanovic, a sculptor from Mostar, to create the statue of Lee "as if he was alive and kicking".
They hope to install the statue by November this year and invite Lee's wife, Linda Lee to the opening ceremony, Mr Gatalo said.
The site picked for the statue is symbolic - the Spanish Square, in the centre of the divided city some 70km south of the capital Sarajevo.
The Associated Press
QuoteBut can a monument to a karate-chopping
last time i heard Bruce was against all things Karate so this guy is talking out of his rectal region.
....heard about this a while back, but thanks for posting anyways
dude, Bruce was never against all things karate. He was friends with Ed Parker wasn't he?
And once a karate dude wrote him in Blackbelt magazine about how Bruce was a phony and this was what Bruce wrote in response:
"First, I am commenting on classical Chinese kungfu--not karate. If your particular style is not of the 'fancy stuff' or crammed with 'deadly' (in the sense of a corpse) techniques, you need not grunt and be upset."
Wasn't it Bruce that always talked about the debate of style vs. style is meaningless because human beings are more important than style? Then wouldn't you think it to be a bit hypocritical if he was against "all things karate"?
He used what he thought to be good from all the martial arts.
I believe when Bruce attended the 1964 Long Beach Karate Tournament and various other karate organisations he sat and he laughed refering to karate as ''dry land swimming'' and ''organised despair''
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look how un-impressed he looks there...lol
http://www.karateconnection.com/blee.htm
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He said that from his observations of Karate and Kung Fu in the United States it was all Bullshit. That was his word, not mine. He said, in Hong Kong however, only ninety five percent was Bullshit. His claim was that he had been able to go places and see things that we as Occidentals would never have been allowed. In fact, we wouldn't have made it half way down some of the alleys they were located in. According to his mathematics, of the five percent of the Hong Kong schools that were not Bullshit, about half were sincerely trying but missing the mark and only the other half, was truly there. So according to Bruce Lee in the year 1962 when he was twenty one years of age only about two and a half percent of the worlds Martial Arts facilities were on the mark which didn't make any difference to us because we couldn't go there anyway. Obviously the Japanese and Korean's didn't even count. At least they never came up in his assessments.
Quote from: Bruce LeeI believe when Bruce attended the 1964 Long Beach Karate Tournament and various other karate organisations he sat and he laughed refering to karate as ''dry land swimming'' and ''organised despair''
again, that had less to do with karate in general but more to do with how it was taught. he was fiercely against traditions for the sake of and gimmicks like breaking the boards, but he never went against "all things karate." he didn't believe in systems (thus the organized dispair comment) and believed that fighters should be alive, but I have never heard Bruce Lee trashing karate.
As to Ravi's quote--accounts of Bruce Lee saying whatever outrageous things are dime a dozen. He was much more open-minded than "karate is bullshit, man."
I mean for a man who founded (or "re-founded") and modernized the idea of an art that absorbs everything is useful but not caught trapped in a system, wouldn't you think a conviction against "all things karate"/ "all things kungfu"/ "All things hapkido" to be a bit hypocritical?
Didn't Bruce train Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis? Weren't they karate guys? Did they denounce their "karateship"?
Do either of you even train in martial arts? What does "all things karate" even entail? Karate contains punches and kicks--does that mean Bruce couldn't punch and kick? Or Bruce couldn't fight empty-handed?
Karate is very wooden with its pre-rehersed moves.....move, move, stop, grab, stop, throw......Bruce didn't like how it wasn't fluent in movemet, he didn't say it was useless but its not the best in effectiveness.
He also didn't like the whole belt ranking system saying that ''all a belts good for is holding your pants up'
Chuck, Joe Lewis once seeing what Bruce was all about asked if he would teach them, so soon followed a few $200 p/h sessions. But Bruce wasn't that interested and didn't have that much patience to re-show a move.
He knew it was impossible to teach some one in a few lessons or even years what it has taken him a life time to reach.
you obviously know very little about martial arts to come up with something as ignorant as "karate is very wooden...chop chop move" or whatever. have you seen the k-1 fighters fight? How about Benny the Jet Urquidez? Your idea of karate comes from simplified stereotypes in movies coupled with memorized but barely understood sentiments of Bruce Lee. All you know is hype.
And what do you mean Bruce wasn't interested in teaching Chuck and Joe Lewis. He freaking trained them and they went on to become champions.
f00 wasn't the best screen fighter.
i used to be a black belt in Okinawan and seidokan Karate for a few good years making the transition into kung fu (Wing Chun then Jeet Kune Do) and i can certainly note everything is more flowing.
Karate has you learning different types of moves for different situations including specific ways of standing, moving and breathing for various attacks and defences. its all rehearsed, planned. Jeet Kune Do is more relying on instinct and no organised pattern of movement.
A Karate master could beat an ordinary man and a few other fighting styles but going up against a kung fu master, (unless he was Mas Oyama maybe) he wouldn't have a chance.
As for Bruce teaching Lewis, Chuck and them winning tournaments....they were already consecutive Karate Champions before Bruce got anywhere near them.
And as for introducing some of the moves Bruce would use in JKD in a Karate tournament....you'd be disqualified and out on your ass
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A Karate master could beat an ordinary man and a few other fighting styles but going up against a kung fu master, (unless he was Mas Oyama maybe) he wouldn't have a chance.
This is an unrealistic and juvenille view of the Martial Arts. It isn't style that's important, it's the individual. Kung Fu isn't a magic pill you take to defeat all Japanese opponents. It's a tool, it's effectiveness determined by those who wield it.. PLENTY of Kung Fu fighters have been beaten by Karate Champions, and Vice Versa.
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As for Bruce teaching Lewis, Chuck and them winning tournaments....they were already consecutive Karate Champions before Bruce got anywhere near them.
He helped them become even better, otherwise they wouldn't have continued training with him.
QuoteAnd as for introducing some of the moves Bruce would use in JKD in a Karate tournament....you'd be disqualified and out on your ass
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The same goes for every Martial Art on the face of the planet. Karate included. Competition is a game, it isn't meant to be deadly. Noone is meant to be seriously hurt.
When Bruce spoke of Karate he did so with his own personal bias. He was by no means a perfect man. Besides that, some of his techniques
were borrowed from Japanese fighting systems.
oh, so turns out that "Bruce Lee", in the end, is just another one of the 1000s of "my kungfu is the best" McDojo dudes.
first of all, jeet kune do is not kungfu. It's not even a system. It's just a process of learning martial arts. So I can't really comprehend why you would classify jeet kunedo under "kungfu", especially after your hero Bruce's repeatedly emphasized that he doesn't believe in karate or kungfu.
Secondly, it sounded like your disillusionment with karate was not in karate itself - but rather the WAY you were taught. You weren't trained to fight, you were trained, as you stated, to react the same way in a variety of circumstances. that has to do with you and your school, don't take it out on karate as a whole.
thirdly, that "kungfu master can beat up karateka" argument is one of the weakest in the world, and YOU just disproved it yourself. By saying "unless he was mas oyama", meaning a PERSON could transcend a style. Which is probably the only claim close to any kind of truth you have made. Style vs. style is the dumbest argument in the world, and you, a self-proclaimed fan of a Bruce Lee, is making such an argument (on a board about indie movies no less), which just goes further to prove your lack of understanding in the very person you worship so much.
Have you ever seen old footages of Bruce sparring in tournaments? He was not disqualified. And he used JKD.
I can't really believe that you're a martial artist from the way you talk about the arts. JKD is not just a set of moves that are incompatible with karate moves and therefore superior. JKD is a method, it does not contain any move by itself, it's a thought. If you've actually listened to any lecture by Bruce's own Dan Inasonto, you'll realize that one of the biggest efforts they've made in JKD was to find similarity in the arts--for example, the sticky hand drill in wing chun and the stick drills in penjak-silat, or a karateka's reverse punch coupled with British boxer Gentleman Jim Corbett's "straight blast". Don't pin your failure as a martial artist on karate, and don't twist Bruce Lee's words to mask your failure as a martial artist.
And this is coming from a wing chun guy.
I did kung fu for a couple of years, so I'm no expert. As much as I used to read about Bruce Lee, I don't know that much about him anymore, but I do know that he eschewed geographic boundaries about martial arts. This idea is even in Way of the Dragon (IIRC). The quote was from 1962, if he even said it, so make of that what you will. I doubt he had the same beliefs in 1969 as he did in 1962.
The Jeet Kune Do basis was created on the basis of sticking hands, Wing Chun which is a form of Kung Fu.
Bruce Lee never fought against karate practitioners in tournaments, he never took part in any tournaments! he merely made appearances and put a display on and gave lectures.
Lewis and Chuck continued training because it gave them a good reputation as being tought by the hardest most talked about martial artist on the planet. Sure they were keen to try and learn some of Bruces moves but pulling them off as effectively as Bruce....they had no chance.
Karate is Traditional junk, Kung Fu is the balls. end of arguement.
Quote from: Bruce LeeThe Jeet Kune Do basis was created on the basis of sticking hands, Wing Chun which is a form of Kung Fu.
Bruce Lee never fought against karate practitioners in tournaments, he never took part in any tournaments! he merely made appearances and put a display on and gave lectures.
Lewis and Chuck continued training because it gave them a good reputation as being tought by the hardest most talked about martial artist on the planet. Sure they were keen to try and learn some of Bruces moves but pulling them off as effectively as Bruce....they had no chance.
Karate is Traditional junk, Kung Fu is the balls. end of arguement.
You've never trained a day in your life. You're just a fanboy.
aww, just when I was glad that there was another Bruce Lee fan on this pansy shmansy board of canoodles and multi-layered ironies, turned out he was a phoney.
jeet kune do is created on the basis of sticking hands? what about the grappling aspects of it? the kicks? the knifework? have you ever studied kali? there's sticking hands in there too. What about arnis? Tai chi? familiar with any southeastern asian arts? how about jiujiutsu and hapkido? they stick too!
have you ever seen Bruce Lee kick? Those aren't kungfu kicks, nevermind wing-chun kicks. In Wing Chun they'd never teach you to kick above your waist, nevermind a high section round-house, or multi-section roundhouses. hey, remember those numchucks? guess who invented them? OKINAWAN FARMERS! WHAT?!
QuoteKarate is Traditional junk, Kung Fu is the balls. end of arguement. Oh and I had sex with a horse once.
What? You had sex with a horse once?
You silly idot ^.....lol
Jeet Kune Do didn't just form out of thin air or out of a few moves here and there it was modified from Bruce's childhood teachings of Wing Chun with the legendary Yip Man. Thats the punching aspect of jeet kune do.
Wing Chun deals with finding the simplest and most direct route to the opponent which is a principal of jeet kune do.
Once Bruce found that Wing Chun isn't affective against some attacks he started to incoporate ideas from other martial arts.
It was only after taking a while to beat up Wong Jack Man in the states that Bruce decided to re-examine his skills and is when JKD began.
If you're going to comment at least make it sound like you know something about Bruce or the martial arts.
This is the geekiest thread I've ever read.
that rhymed, fuck off
Quote from: CinephileThis is the geekiest thread I've ever read.
that rhymed, fuck off
Go read the PTA forum.
No no. I'm sticking with this one...
what about the punching aspect of jkd that came from boxing? have you ever taken xing-yi? that's all about the simples and most direct route too. or <gasp!> karate? I didn't see any circular punches there? Or I dunno, ANY OTHER MARTIAL ART IN THE WORLD?
JKD is not kungfu, it might have some wing chun punches, but it's not kungfu. As I've mentioned earlier (which you didn't read), JKD also takes from boxing, karate, various grappling arts, and a huge arsenal of Southeastern Asian arts, but you can't call JKD boxing or karate or whatever. 'Cause it's not a style.
Again, you're just reciting facts and legends about Bruce Lee without really know what you're talking about.
ah why do I even bother when you're not even gonna read this? you're going to post another "Did you know" semi-mythical fact about Bruce Lee and then add "kungfu" rules" in the end. free time in my hands I guess.
Quote from: Bruce LeeYou silly idot ^.....lol
DID YOU KNOW BRUCE LEE KICKED PRAYING MANTIS GUY WONG JACK MAN'S ASS?
JKD = KUNG FU!
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As my user name implies im a die-hard Bruce Lee fan, i've read and watched probably almost everything to do with Bruce. I've taken Jeet Kune Do at the london JKD academy under Chris Kent for over 4 years now.
JKD uses Wing Chuns sticking hands, unlike Karate, it generaly involves one swift movement with both hands to block and strike the apponent.....opposing to just using defence without combining it with an attack.
And as reffering to Bruce doing Kung Fu, he practised Kung Fu in his life until the mid 60's and at the that time he was a kick ass at it. JKD merges all styles and has no style but Bruce is hardly going to forget his years of kung fu training...or else that would mean any joe blogs could master JKD within a few years.
Quote from: CinephileThis is the geekiest thread I've ever read.
that rhymed, fuck off
........ :evil: :evil: :evil: .how dare you insult us kung fu-natics like that...you dont understand what we go through...it all starts with discipline...as kids we grew up watching the karate kid movies and the teenage mutant ninja turtles .through their sufferring we adapted an ideology to become martial artists.we got our parents to pay for our karate lessons after school....we were beat up and people stole are lunch money and once i got sodomized by a ruler during geometry class...we were tired of being pissed on and treated like sh*t....we sought refuge through master splinter and mister meyogi "wax on /wax off"....the credo for us was set.once we obtained that yellow belt.we went back to school and still got the sh*t beat out of use and yes .they even still stick odd things up my ass....but after many lessons with our teachers we learned how to defend ourselves...my after school instrucor was master sheguioshi...his dojo was next to the mcDonalds downtown in my neighborhood....i went weeks and we developed a kinship and comraderie...he took a shy boy and made me into a warrior of cunning and grace...when he first met me he even tooks the things out of my ass and placed them in a glass cage in his dojo to remind me what the penalty of suffereing could do .......so that made me work even harder to obtain the black belt.... weeks later after my final lessons master sheguioshi took me aside and massage my back w/ spiritual oils and even took me to the mcDonals next door to get a hambuger w/ no mustard and a strawberry shake and two medium fries......he even paid for it.:-D...we talked about life and what his meaning of life is..he told me"
NEON-son, the chopsticks of salvation cry out through a pleasurer's impluse"....i thought that that was one of the most beautiful things i ever heard......he took me home in his camero and we listened to john secada in his car....he touched my leg- i got aroused.........then next time i met my foe at school i phucked his face all up....and victory was mine.....going on 20-something years i became more and more involved w/ martial arts..from bruce lee to steven segal........so, please .give us the respect we deserve.....or we will kick your ass........
I didn't read that. Can someone tell me if I need to?
Quote from: CinephileI didn't read that. Can someone tell me if I need to?
Let me condense it for you...
Quote from: NEON MERCURYonce i got sodomized by a ruler during geometry class . . . master sheguioshi took me aside and massage my back w/ spiritual oils and even took me to the mcDonals next door to get a hambuger w/ no mustard and a strawberry shake and two medium fries
you've watched a lot of bruce lee, but have very little idea what he's talking about, because you have very little context in understanding what he's saying. if bruce taught wing chun under the banner "jun fan kungfu", then why didn't he just teach that version of it (or what he's taught Ted Wong)? It's because JKD is NOT kungfu, it's not an art, and it's not a style. It's just a learning process. You can't "master" JKD the same way you master a system. Under JKD, an entirely different process of training (ideally anyways), there is no such thing as "style", therefore, there's no such thing as "wing chun kicks karate's ass", not that the claim will have any basis under any other system. What if the wing chun guy's 80 years old and the karate guy is 20? What if the wing chun guy's only been studying for 3 months and the karate guy is a 4-th dan?
"Fighting" is not as simple as pitting wing chun against karate--if it's in a ring, then there are rules that are inherently biased, if it's outside a ring (eg. "the streets"/ "the bars"...etc.) then there are any number of things that could influence it. You can throw a chair. You can pull a muscle. The bouncers/ cops/ bystanders can break up the fighers or join in. There is no way you can determine a punch is "wing chun" or "karate" in a real fight either, ring or otherwise. They might have discernable stances, but that's basically it. A punch is a punch man, as Bruce's said, unless you have three arms and six legs, how are you going to fight "stylistically"?
and this is only the like first most elementary truth to martial arts--that style is a tool, it depends on the fighter.
Quote from: Bruce Lee...or else that would mean any joe blogs could master JKD within a few years.
^Are you retarded? because it definatley seems so...
He taught Wing Chun; which is part of kung fu.
His classes were called 'Jun Fan Kung Fu' because one of Bruce Lee's chinese name interpretations is 'LEE JUN FAN' hence the name.
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...oooh what is Yip Man teaching Bruce there?!?? could it be Wing Chun?....yesssss
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hmmm what is Bruce practising on that wooden dummy in the kung fu outfit??!???oh yes its Wing Chun
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whats Bruce teaching there to his student with his Jun Fan Gung Fu logo on the wall????? ahhh its the basic forms of wing chun
Quoteit's not an art
...erm its a martial art
QuoteWhat if the wing chun guy's 80 years old and the karate guy is 20?
Wing Chun was founded by an old woman who used to challenge men or women of any age or size.
QuoteWhat if the wing chun guy's only been studying for 3 months and the karate guy is a 4-th dan?
..thats why i said karate MASTER and kung-fu MASTER
QuoteThere is no way you can determine a punch is "wing chun" or "karate" in a real fight either, ring or otherwise.
any white belt karate person would be able to know his wing chun punch from a karate punch, street or ring.
Quotehow are you going to fight "stylistically"?
by using a set pattern of defence and attack
QuoteA punch is a punch man
jeez why don't you tell all those millions of people who've joined various martial arts groups
if you're going to speak shite, please do it else where.
Quote from: Bruce Leehmmm what is Bruce practising on that wooden dummy in the kung fu outfit??!???
for the record, the wooden dummy is not wearing a kung fu outfit.
man, here I am, busting your ass like a baked potato, but you just ignore all that and come back with some pictures and lecturing me about how wing chun is a martial art.
you obviously have no clue what I'm saying, I try to break it down for you each time, but you just come back with more pictures and quotes.
I never denied that Bruce studied wing chun, but JKD is NOT a martial art in that it's not a system, not a product, and it's not wing chun, it's a martial art in a sense that it seeks to better understand expression of power, but the entire time you've been talking about JKD like it's the crane kick from karate kid, the five-point exploding palm technique. It's a philosophy, "a process. "<= I didn't make that up. Hmm I wonder who made it up, oh right, BRUCE LEE.
If Bruce Lee is too "deep" for you, then how about your own sifu Chris Kent? Check this out, B:
"JKD cannot be taught as any other martial art can be, because there are no rules. There is no set number of forms, movements, or set number of techniques that you use against another technique."
And you've misread, I didn't say the founder of wing chun was 80, I said what if the fighter who used wing chun was 80.
If you wanna talk about "master vs. master", then first of all, how do you define a "master"? Secondly, is a fight between two "masters" gonna be exempt of all the 100s of variables of a street fight?
Thirdly, even if five more million kids start martial arts today, it wouldn't have made any difference, you join a school based on YOUR preference, it's not chess, where karate always beats boxing, and wing chun always beats karate. And guess who actually came up with the idea that "a punch is a punch"? OH THAT'S RIGHT, BRUCE FREAKING LEE.
Here, this is what your man has to say about styles (psst, I don't think he believes in them).
Here: a soundbite of Bruce. (http://pages.emerson.edu/students/peter_lee/bruce.mp3)
Your technique is puzzling me; it's like your face is smashing into my hand. Please stop my hand is starting to hurt.
I'll go niiiiiice and sl-o-w as to answer your jibberish
QuoteJKD is NOT a martial art in that it's not a system
''JKD is the only non classical Gung-Fu SYSTEM in exsistence today'' !!!!!!!
''JKD has long since been known as the STYLE of no STYLE, but this term has been overused and to a great extent exaggerated to 'allow' others to teach JKD without using actual Jeet Kune Do Techniques under the guise of defining the ART as anything you want to make it....The ART...''
I think i have the 'World Jeet Kune Do Federation' to back me up that your talking shite. - http://www.leejkd.com/main.html
Quote"JKD cannot be taught as any other martial art can be, because there are no rules
once again the JKD federation would have something to say about that.
Quote"a punch is a punch"? OH THAT'S RIGHT, BRUCE FREAKING LEE.
its philosophy man, it just means that any punch hurts like a punch but if this was true why did Bruce during all his JKD time learn 'Bil-Jee', 'palm strikes', 'vertical fist punch', 'hook punch'....etc
Jeet Kune Do is NOT do what comes naturaly or improvise, its being able to utilise the 3 modifications of the core of JKD; Wing Chun, French fencing and Western/american boxing.[/code]
now you're just angrily blabbering and contradicting your own sifu (Chris Kent) and your own personal idol (me).
I never said JKD is an improvised-free-for-all. but now you've got a website that directly challenges its own founder ("while continuing to deny that JKD was a 'style'...but if he gave so little importance to his name why would he want it on his grave marker") as well as its own lineage Dan Inasonto.
but forget all that, look at the set of techniques they teach. alright, siu lum tao, that's wing chun...wait, wait, what's this? HOOK KICK? SPINNING HOOK KICK? Whoa. I think I saw a KARATE guy doing that!
And it's a website that allows you to become an "associate-affiliate member" right there online for $500! Wow, there's so much honor in being an "associate affiliate member" of world JKD federation (slightly more honorable then a member of world wrestling federation).
see, here is what Bruce's been talking about. He started an idea, then overtime it becomes systemized as a tradition, as the gospel truth. Then trolls like you try to copy and paste it on forums, try to mystify something as simple as fighting.
you lost.
Your just talking a lot of fluff now, i remember this being about bruce not doing kung fu.
Quotewhy would he want it on his grave marker")
i don't think he planned to die early and made his funeral arrangements at 30, and even if he did he was caught up in his Jeet Kune Do frenzy and the philosophy around it. At the time, i doubt that he would arrange to put such a thing if he was planning it today.
Quoteas well as its own lineage Dan Inasonto
if you read up more you'd know that the few days before he died he was unhappy how all his schools were run and was going to re-think a lot of things ordering all his schools to shut.
Quotewhat's this? HOOK KICK? SPINNING HOOK KICK? Whoa
If you knew more about JKD and have read the Tao of JKD you'd know that Bruce said he would never use the sort of high or spinning kicks that he performed on screen in real life. he'd stick to low and direct kicks.
Quotetry to mystify something as simple as fighting.
simple eh? try getting into the ring (or even out) with Mike Tyson or any other professional boxer/martial artist your size and see how simple it is.
Quoteyou lost.
i think you lost it a long time ago buddy.
wait, I was quoting the website you gave me in regards to the grave marker comment--and you were just contradicting the website that you brought up yourself, as well as the hook kick.
hey, if you were a foot and you were hungry, would you eat yourself? stop eating yourself.
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Uh thanks but no thanks, Neon. This debate is entertaining.
I wasn't contradicting anything it says he practised the hook kick in his school it doesn't mean its used as part of JKD.....not only is it good for stetching the muscles in your leg but im sure it helps Bruce when he needs to do a hook kick during filming.
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Just when I thought that painting couldn't ever get worse.
i quite like it, its very abstract. but nothing to do with Bruce Lee.
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hahahaha!!!!that was awesome
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that should be a banner.
Quote from: Bruce Leei quite like it, its very abstract. but nothing to do with Bruce Lee.
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I was trying to upload some footage of Dan Inasonto's seminar as well as other documentaries, and from Bruce's own interviews, but this thread seems to have taken a turn somewhere and I don't know what's going on anymore.
I have the Inosanto seminar which comes with the GOD HKLegends dvd along with Pierre Burton interviews, manuscripts and the lost interview dvd
yet you still don't get it.
Can somebody please outline the basics of what this argument has come down to?
I think what it boils down to is a big fat joke.
Pete and "Bruce Lee" are the same guy. They're just making shit up, waiting for someone to call them out.
Well, your fun is over, LIARS! I'M CALLING YOU OUT!!!
I DON'T THINK THIS BRUCE LEE PERSON EVEN EXISTS.... I DON'T THINK THIS "KARATE" EVEN REALLY EXISTS.
and those pictures... please... so fake
Who? What?
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RK, how could you not have taken the oppurtunity to make your '3 types of karate' joke!! I'm ashamed of you, coulda kept this thread going a good 2 more pages...
I liked this thread, really informative on such a niche subject. Pete schooled that fool, and me as well.
Then this happened and I cried laughing, god I miss neon:
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and to add fuel to the fire:
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it all makes sense to me now...
if your interested, you should give the thread a read to understand the context of those things I pulled, it'll be worth it.
Anyways, I've been wanting to get back into Kung Fu flicks for awhile, but I just don't know where to begin! Bruce Lee seems good as any place, but I'm ashamed to say I don't think I've ever seen one of his films in their ENTIRETY. Where would be a good place to start? (deep cuts please)
reelist - there's a new movie coming out called Wu Xia or Dragon or Swordsman, starring Donnie Yen. It's beautifully shot and has some fresh angles on the old genre.
Cool! last thing I saw was 'The Man With The Iron Fists.' It was a fun ride, but I'm looking for something a little more authentic in how the martial arts are represented.