Now, bare with me, for I have not seen Lost Highway, nor have I seen Eraserhead or Dune (I hear that's not much of a loss, though)
Using the standard four star scale
Here I go:
Elephant Man- ***1/2
Blue Velvet- ****
Wild At Heart- ***1/2
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me- **1/2
Straight Story- ***
Mulholland Dr.- ****
The ones I've seen:
Dune - 0 - So bad that I've almost wiped out the memory of ever having seen it.
Blue Velvet - *
Lost Highway - **
Mulholland Dr. - **
Let the flaming begin.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaThe ones I've seen:
Dune - 0 - So bad that I've almost wiped out the memory of ever having seen it.
Blue Velvet - *
Lost Highway - **
Mulholland Dr. - **
Let the flaming begin.
And I was almost thinking your Spielberg hate was dignified.
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Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanAnd I was almost thinking your Spielberg hate was dignified.
That's probably because you agree with me a bit on that. Seriously, though, I admire what Lynch tries to do, but he fails at it so much because he can't seem to tell a cogent, coherent story. That's what it boils down to. I'm all for surrealism. A big fan, really. But it has to serve some sort of purpose. Mulholland Dr. is his most accomplished work, as I've said before, but it falls apart when he can't seem to reel the story in. It simply spins out of control.
Dune is actually a whole lot better than everyone thinks it is.
Quote from: GhostboyDune is actually a whole lot better than everyone thinks it is.
Care to expound? The film almost put me to sleep, and its dialogue was just
bad. But, at least the special effects were decent. (And I can't believe I'm actually giving a film credit for its special effects.)
What's the problem with Dune? It's one of my favourite science fiction films.
The special effects are great, the story is great too, great characters, good acting... a very nice film. I like it more than star wars
eraserhead ***
elephant man ****
dune***
blue velvet***
wild at heart***
fwwm**1/2
lost highway***1/2
the straight story***
mulholland drive****
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaI admire what Lynch tries to do, but he fails at it so much because he can't seem to tell a cogent, coherent story.
That's a contradiction.
No it's not. I admire his failed attempts. There's nothing contradictory about that.
then ur admiration is worthless.
Not really, because I can see the potential there for something great. But whereas Ebert finally drooled all over Lynch's last two efforts while panning the rest of them (save Elephant Man, IIRC, and rightfully so), I believe he's not quite there yet, and should stick to painting if he's not going to commit to telling a story. A tapestry, no matter how tightly woven, will unravel if not tied at the ends.
i hav no trouble understanding his stories.
and twin peaks is a masterpiece of modern television.
u should watch the straight story.
I don't have any trouble understanding his stories either. His stories are purposefully ambiguous, and I get that. But at the same time, I'd just like to see a little more effort put into it, instead of leaving so MUCH to ambiguity, and the viewer's interpretation.
And yeah, I want to see Straight Story, and Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, and Wild at Heart, and all of his stuff, really. Though Dune really left a bad taste in my mouth. It's just a matter of finding them.
of the ones i have seen......
(out of four)
fire walk w/ me..****
elephant man..****
dune..**1/2
wild at heart..****
mulholland drive..****
lost highway..****
blue velvet...****
the straight story......****
....have n't seen eraserhead still.(which i feel embarrased about) ...but i know it would deserve ..**** .
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaI don't have any trouble understanding his stories either. His stories are purposefully ambiguous, and I get that. But at the same time, I'd just like to see a little more effort put into it, instead of leaving so MUCH to ambiguity, and the viewer's interpretation.
Again, that seems like a contradiction. You say you 'get it,' then what's the problem? Would you like it all spelled out for you in Spielberg-ian fashion :wink: ?
There's room for interpretation, sure, but I don't doubt that Lynch has solid intentions, or 'the answers.' It's not like he makes films like Brakhage or something. I'll take a cock-tease over a spoon-feeding any day.
Quote from: OnomatopoeiaAnd yeah, I want to see Straight Story, and Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me, and Wild at Heart, and all of his stuff, really. Though Dune really left a bad taste in my mouth. It's just a matter of finding them.
Lynch is my favorite director and I loathe Dune, but get over that. That's one fuck-up, and he's never done anything like it since. I barely appreciate bits of the movie, but I also am glad he did it: it's the reason Blue Velvet got made. But that's 'crap' too, so nevermind.
Elephant Man ****
Blue Velvet ***
FWWM **
Mulholland Drive *** 1/2
I knew I shouldn't have started that thread asking everyone to rank Tarantino's films. The copycatting has already begun.....
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI knew I shouldn't have started that thread asking everyone to rank Tarantino's films. The copycatting has already begun.....
don't flatter yourself.
Quote from: taz.Quote from: The Gold TrumpetI knew I shouldn't have started that thread asking everyone to rank Tarantino's films. The copycatting has already begun.....
don't flatter yourself.
My ego says I should.
Does anybody like Dune besides me?
and if we can rank his short films:
the alphabet****
The Golden Trumpet:
I just wanted to let you know how happy and envious I am that you created the concept of "rating" movies. You've allowed critics and fans alike to share their views for certain films in a condensed sort of way. Many thanks.... :lol:
Another thing Golden Trumpet:
I would (seriously this time) like to compliment you on choosing a good photograph (I forgot what the hell their called). Throne of Blood is an excellent film and Akira Kurosawa is a badass.
DAVID LYNCH IS THE 3RD GREATEST LIVING DIRECTOR THIS WORLD HAS...AND WILL EVER SEE
Quote from: j_scott_stroup04The Golden Trumpet:
I just wanted to let you know how happy and envious I am that you created the concept of "rating" movies. You've allowed critics and fans alike to share their views for certain films in a condensed sort of way. Many thanks.... :lol:
AHEM... I believe i called dibs on razzing gt.
wild at heart *1/2
some call it campy and fun, I call it trash.
mulholland drive ***1/2
Beautiful but I'm not sold on the story.
blue velvet **
It certainly has it's moments, good and bad.
the straight story ****
Beautiful and a good story.
i'd really like to rate his short film, darkened room, but i'm affraid i can't. what the fuck was that?
i'd also like to say that i think fire walk with me is getting an unfair treatment.
Quote from: taz.Quote from: j_scott_stroup04The Golden Trumpet:
I just wanted to let you know how happy and envious I am that you created the concept of "rating" movies. You've allowed critics and fans alike to share their views for certain films in a condensed sort of way. Many thanks.... :lol:
AHEM... I believe i called dibs on razzing gt.
you two girls must fight it out for razzing rights and when the winner is decided, prepare to get slammed by me anyways.
Eraserhead *** 1/2
Elephant Man ***
Dune***
Bue Velvet****
Wild at Heart****
FWWM***1/2
Lost Highway***
The Straight Story***1/2
Mulholland Drive****
Dune - *
Elephant Man - ****1/2
Eraserhead - ****1/2
Blue Velvet - ****
Mulholland Drive - *****
dune - zero stars
elephant man - ****
eraserhead - never seen it
lost highway - ***
blue velvet - ***
FWWM - never seen it
the straight story - ***1/2
mulholland drive - ****
P:
Please, tell us, we're dying to know the top 2 greatest living directors this world has...and will ever see
oh, that. i changed my mind, he's number one now.
Quote from: Poh, that. i changed my mind, he's number one now.
hahaha.....thats right... 8)
1. Mulholland Drive 10/10
2. Blue Velvet 10/10
3. Lost Highway 10/10
4. The Straight Story 10/10
5. The Elephant Man 10/10
6. Eraserhead 9/10
7. Wild at Heart 8.5/10
Flat out genious and is not capable of making a film that I don't like. I refuse to see Dune so that will never change :P
Quote from: Mia Wallace1. Mulholland Drive 10/10
2. Blue Velvet 10/10
3. Lost Highway 10/10
4. The Straight Story 10/10
5. The Elephant Man 10/10
6. Eraserhead 9/10
7. Wild at Heart 8.5/10
Flat out genious and is not capable of making a film that I don't like. I refuse to see Dune so that will never change :P
you're gonna get along real well around here Mia.
Quote from: Mia Wallace1. Mulholland Drive 10/10
2. Blue Velvet 10/10
3. Lost Highway 10/10
4. The Straight Story 10/10
5. The Elephant Man 10/10
6. Eraserhead 9/10
7. Wild at Heart 8.5/10
Flat out genious and is not capable of making a film that I don't like. I refuse to see Dune so that will never change :P
Fire Walk With Me?
Haven't seen it but I get the feeling that i'll like it once I do.
themodernage02, I certainly hope so. :wink:
I'VE JUST seen Wild at Heart again, and maybe it's rated so low on Mia's list because the characters are so repulsive.
Quote from: mollyI'VE JUST seen Wild at Heart again, and maybe it's rated so low on Mia's list because the characters are so repulsive.
or because its so bad.
waits patiently for shitstorm.
Quote from: themodernage02waits patiently for shitstorm.
....the wait is over.......:wink:
i assume the reason why you did not like the film was the same reason that ebert didn't like blue velvet...YOU DIDN'T "GET IT".......this film is in a nutshell......a whacked out lynchian road film.....i do not think it has any deeper meaning .but its just that.......and thius film contains....NEON's #7 favorite Lynch thing..........which is...the whole scene at night w/ the car wreck....and the chick from peaks..umm......the hot one...i'm forgetting her name right now....but it will come ...wait............................."Audrey" from twin Peaks...yeah that whole car wreck scene ..then the "wicked game"...song...thats perefect....lynch sets up that scene flawless....and eerie........
oh and mia welcome........................................................................and dune is not
that bad ..its all about the finaL CuT.......
Quote from: Mia WallaceFlat out genious and is not capable of making a film that I don't like. I refuse to see Dune so that will never change :P
I hope you haven't seen Spartacus, then...
I've said it before and seem to be in the extreme minority when I say that WAH is in my top 3. It's just my kind of Lynch movie to the fullest but the ending kind of brings it down a bit, IMO.
My VHS version sucks and I want my WAH DVD dammit! :evil:
i love wild at heart, i hate how people bash it. maybe it does get a bit slow towards the end and people don't like that. i know i don't really like that. but i still think it's a really good movie and utilized some really inventive filmmaking. visually, i think it's his strongest film.
as for you freakerdude, i hear the WAH dvd is coming out soon, but, if you can't wait any longer, go and import the Japanese dvd. that will play on any american dvd player. i don't think it's worth it though. from what i hear it should be out in region 1 sometime this year.
i'm hoping for a good year for lynch fan:
1.0 wild at heart dvd.....give me a solid transfer...and a doc..
2.0 lost highway dvd.....give me...flawless transfer....and nice audio....and include "pretty as a picture" on the bonus 2nd disk
3.0 twin peaks season 2....region two dvd......please..please give us the exact quality of season one ...that set is PERFECT...its the best dvd tv set out ever.....in terms of audio/visual//and extras.....
4.0 fire walk w/ me........dvd....w/ those deleted scenes..............any day now..
5.0 lynch ' new film project announced
would n't that be a year........2004.........
Quote from: NEON MERCURYi assume the reason why you did not like the film was the same reason that ebert didn't like blue velvet...YOU DIDN'T "GET IT"
no, it just seemed like lynch was directing a bad soap opera. i thought it was terrible.
While it may not change your opinion if you already seriously hate Wild at Heart, it's pretty rare to find the *right* way to see the movie.
If you like the flick, and have been forced to watch the crappy Pan-and-Scan VHS that's on the market, to see the film in widescreen on the OOP LD, bootleg DVD, or if you're lucky enough to see it on the big screen (yay, film school was good for something), the intended vision Lynch put forth is truly a revelation. The colors and widescreen compositions are just stunning. Seek it out!
Yeah, when I saw it on the big screen for the first time last year (after learning to love it via that godawful VHS), there were things that I had never seen before -- entire scenes that lost all significance when viewed in the horrors of pan and scan. It was an entirely new movie. Of course, I already thought it was brilliant (although the first time I saw it I thought it was too lurid and schlocky to be enjoyable, fascination compelled me to watch it again and this time its beauty oozed from the screen like the sweat and other bodily fluids did from the characters on it).
It's amazing how awful that old tape is. The first hotel room scenes take place at sundown and are gorgeously lit. On VHS, they look like they're at night!
Quote from: Weak2ndActto see the film in widescreen on the OOP LD
*carressing my copy*
Mmmmmmmm
Quote from: NEON MERCURY3.0 twin peaks season 2....region two dvd......please..please give us the exact quality of season one ...that set is PERFECT...its the best dvd tv set out ever.....in terms of audio/visual//and extras.....
What about the pilot?
Quote from: MacGuffinQuote from: Weak2ndActto see the film in widescreen on the OOP LD
*carressing my copy*
Mmmmmmmm
*Staring at my VHS dupe made from the LD*
:?
Quote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: NEON MERCURY3.0 twin peaks season 2....region two dvd......please..please give us the exact quality of season one ...that set is PERFECT...its the best dvd tv set out ever.....in terms of audio/visual//and extras.....
What about the pilot?
.....i think that the pilot will never be released the "proper"' way like artisan did w/ season one......the dvd copy i have is that phucked up hiss sound......but come to think of it ....that damn hiss sound actually adds to the mystic of twin peaks.......................maybe.........or maybe i'm just learning how to make do.....
Mac................any supplements on that laser...?
Quote from: NEON MERCURYMac................any supplements on that laser...?
No.
Quote from: NEON MERCURYQuote from: Jeremy BlackmanQuote from: NEON MERCURY3.0 twin peaks season 2....region two dvd......please..please give us the exact quality of season one ...that set is PERFECT...its the best dvd tv set out ever.....in terms of audio/visual//and extras.....
What about the pilot?
.....i think that the pilot will never be released the "proper"' way like artisan did w/ season one......the dvd copy i have is that phucked up hiss sound......but come to think of it ....that damn hiss sound actually adds to the mystic of twin peaks.......................maybe.........or maybe i'm just learning how to make do.....
Mac................any supplements on that laser...?
why is it that it isn't included? it's on my region 4
b/c a different company owns the US rights to the pilot, so artisan can't release the pilot on region 1.
http://www.nerve.com/movies/ranked-david-lynch-films-from-worst-to-best
Quote from: ono on June 15, 2011, 09:48:23 PM
http://www.nerve.com/movies/ranked-david-lynch-films-from-worst-to-best
Is this your list?
No.
A friend's or something? Just seems like one of a million crappy Internet lists that's too listy and not well-explained.
Nerve.com does this all the time with every director.
It's just a thing that they do.
And they don't do it well.
Raving about Inland Empire but disliking Lost Highway for its overindulgence is just a little inconsistent.
Might as well chime in:
Inland Empire
Mulholland Drive
Lost Highway
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With me
Wild At Heart
Blue Velvet
Eraserhead
The Straight Story
The Elephant Man
Dune
What would you say, in general, were your qualifications for ordering the list, and to what degree is the top film distanced from the bottom film (besides the number of films between them; what I mean is do you like Dune half as much as Inland Empire, for example)?
The Straight Story
Mulholland Drive
The Elephant Man
Lost Highway
Blue Velvet
Wild At Heart
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
Eraserhead
Haven't seen Dune or Inland Empire. I guess I like the least bizarre one of his movies.
Quote from: Mr. Merrill Lehrl on June 25, 2011, 04:31:11 PM
What would you say, in general, were your qualifications for ordering the list, and to what degree is the top film distanced from the bottom film (besides the number of films between them; what I mean is do you like Dune half as much as Inland Empire, for example)?
Funny you say that, because I almost listed it that way, as I've done with some other things, like Radiohead albums.
I love his intense puzzle films the most, and as far as I'm concerned he's only actually made 4 of them (my top 4). The rest of his movies are sort of in a different category for me.
Blue Velvet is very good but probably overrated. Eraserhead is good but also a little student-film-ish and tedious. The Elephant Man is good, but not exactly my favorite type of film. The Straight Story is fantastic, and it might deserve a spot above Eraserhead, but I guess it's not quite as memorable.
Watching Dune is like looking at the aftermath of a fatal car accident; it's a failure in so many ways that I can't bring myself to watch it a second time. (To be fair, Lynch did not have final cut.)
Anyway, here's the edit:
Inland Empire
Mulholland Drive
Lost Highway
Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With me
Wild At Heart
Blue Velvet
Eraserhead
The Straight Story
The Elephant Man
Dune
Quote from: Jeremy Blackman on June 25, 2011, 05:23:50 PM
Eraserhead is good but also a little student-film-ish and tedious.
Funny you say that because I recently rewatched the movie, twice in a row, and thought I saw a strong connection between the film and the deadpan American indie films of the mid80s (because I'm calling Stranger than Paradise the first) and into the 90s with Tom DiCillo's Johnny Suede and Living in Oblivion, Alexandre Rockwell's In the Soup, etc., outrageous dreamy fantasy infused films executed straight facedly (films that are sometimes criticized for being student filmish and tedious).
QuoteI love his intense puzzle films the most, and as far as I'm concerned he's only actually made 4 of them (my top 4). The rest of his movies are sort of in a different category for me.
Makes total sense.
Part of the reason I couldn't execute this list, or really any list, is because I find it difficult to weigh two styles against each other. Even having discussed Eraserhead in the manner we have I still couldn't definitively conclude, for myself, that its relative merits and flaws form a concrete shape. It has characteristics, but its artistic methods produce emotional responses from me, to varying degrees, and these types of responses are difficult for me to categorize (when they're awesome, i.e. when they're done well and work for me, and this usually involves a component of mystery which Lynch is always willing to supply).
Lynch strikes me as a difficult filmmaker to rank because his films move me each in different ways. I think this is the distinct appeal of The Elephant Man, Dune, and The Straight Story to different types of people, especially perhaps those usually alienated by Lynch's flourishes. Perhaps from what Christian has said and listed he would know what I mean. But then if you love Lynch there are so many ways to like and dislike him. He jams my circuits in a way I don't mind and am totally okay with.