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Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Fernando on March 30, 2003, 12:53:27 AM
Just take a look a the list of some of the films released in 1999:

American Beauty
Cider House Rules
Green Mile
Insider
Sixth Sense
The Hurricane
The Straight Story
Sweet & Lowdown
Boy's don't cry
The end of the affair
Magnolia
Talented Mr. Ripley
Girl Interrupted
Topsy-Turvy
Election
Sleepy Hollow
Snow falling on cedars
Matrix
Episode I
Fight Club
Angela's ashes
All about my mother
Man on the moon
Eyes Wide Shut
Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
The Limey
Bringing Out the Dead
Cradle Will Rock
Felicia's Journey
Onegin
Not one less

Of course some films mentioned here are not really great films, but even so, for example, Episode I (which I didn't like BTW) IMO is not even a good film but you can't deny it had a cultural impact, if anything because of the anticipation it created among fans of the SW saga, but still did.

For me the film that stands by itself is Eyes Wide Shut, all Kubrick films were highly anticipated and this one was no exception, and all had mayor impact in the film industry, even if they don't have awards, his films so far have always passed the test of time and will endure for years to come.

And other films that really were (IMO) masterpieces, Magnolia, The Insider, Fight CLub, Sweet & Lowdown, Straight Story, Not one less.

There's also a huge abstent of foreign films ubt there really very few I saw, therefore can't really include many, also, if there are other films you consider I left out please mention them.

Regards.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Cecil on March 30, 2003, 12:57:09 AM
dont forget "summer of sam"
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Ghostboy on March 30, 2003, 01:00:22 AM
99 is the year by which all other years are judged.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Fernando on March 30, 2003, 01:06:26 AM
Summer of Sam, how could I forget that one, I knew it, great film and great performances by Leguizamo, Brody, Sorvino.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Cecil on March 30, 2003, 01:11:33 AM
here are a few more

any given sunday (i guess)
being john malkovich
austin powers
blair witch project (i guess)
detterence (i guess)
eye of the beholder (i guess)
emporte-moi
eXistenZ
holy smoke (i guess)
ninth gate
pirates of silicon valley (tv)
revenous
south park: bigger, longer & uncut
stir of echoes
sugar town
titus
virgin suicides
toy story 2
the war zone

oh yeah, apart from a few stinkers, '99 rocked.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Fernando on March 30, 2003, 01:25:34 AM
Holy crap! I almost did this list just for a few extraordinary films, EWS, Magnolia, Straight Story, S&L and others. But also I had always in mind BJM, Ninth Gate and Virgin Suicides, damn; if there was ever a year in which the original screenplay was really tough is this one, honestly, if I had to choose the best I might give it a tie between Magnolia and BJM (another 99 masterpiece).
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: ©brad on March 30, 2003, 06:57:38 AM
i didn't think 2002 was dat bad.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Pubrick on March 30, 2003, 08:02:25 AM
2003 will be better.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Ernie on March 30, 2003, 09:14:55 AM
Where in the hell is Three Kings!? That's one of the best movies not only of 99 but of all time!

99 was definitely one of the great years. I hope 2003 is awesome.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: soixante on March 30, 2003, 10:40:49 AM
1999 was a great year.  My favorite film of 1999 was Go, which on first viewing seems like a Tarantino ripoff, but after a 2nd and 3rd viewing, comes into its own.  Lots of great performances (Sarah Polley, William Fichtner, Tim Olyphant -- even Katie Holmes was good).  Nice jump-cut editing, cool action scenes, witty dialogue, clever structure.

Any year with Magnolia, Fight Club, South Park, Eyes Wide Shut, Topsy Turvy, Election, Being John Malkovich, Boys Don't Cry, The Limey, American Movie, Straight Story and American Beauty has to rank as one of the best of all time.  In fact, 1999 was probably the best year for films since the glory days of the mid-70's.

But let's not leave out 1998, which was also a damn good year -- Thin Red Line, Saving Private Ryan, Happiness, Rushmore, Affliction, American History X, A Soldier's Daughter Never Cries, Celebrity, Buffalo 66, Your Friends and Neighbors, Last Days of Disco, Out of Sight, Velvet Goldmine, Bulwoth, Henry Fool, 2 Girls and A Guy, Truman Show, Gods and Monster, Another Day in Paradise ,The General.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 30, 2003, 01:09:29 PM
Yes, 1999. A year with equal greatness will never be seen again..
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 30, 2003, 02:53:23 PM
Quote from: cecil b. dementedtitus

Thank you. Let's just say that again:

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Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 30, 2003, 03:01:22 PM
Nothing about 1999 was really special at all. I looked at the list of films mentioned for coming out that year and honestly thought half were bad, a quarter were good and 10% being overtly good while 5% were great.

I have yet to see one movie from that year that I've really wanted to see, The Straight Story.

But I think 2003 will turn into an actual great year. 2002 seems more dissapointing.

~rougerum
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 30, 2003, 03:03:48 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetNothing about 1999 was really special at all.

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Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 30, 2003, 03:06:40 PM
every year has a few great movies, thats a given.

~rougerum
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Duck Sauce on March 30, 2003, 03:30:28 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetNothing about 1999 was really special at all. I looked at the list of films mentioned for coming out that year and honestly thought half were bad, a quarter were good and 10% being overtly good while 5% were great.

I have yet to see one movie from that year that I've really wanted to see, The Straight Story.

But I think 2003 will turn into an actual great year. 2002 seems more dissapointing.

~rougerum

So give us a better year
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: snaporaz on March 30, 2003, 04:18:32 PM
i've always said that 1999 was the last great year for movies. i'm glad i'm not the only one.

well, actually, i've never said it...out loud. i just always thought that.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 30, 2003, 04:31:33 PM
Top of my head comparison year from same time period that produced better movies.................1994.

~rougerum
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Fernando on March 30, 2003, 06:53:14 PM
I looked up some films from 1994 and these ones are really fine films:

Forrest Gump
Four Weddings and a Funeral
Pulp Fiction
Quiz Show
Shawshank Redemption
The Madness of King George
Ed Wood
Bullets Over Broadway
Three Colors
Heavenly Creatures
Interview with a Vampire
La Reine Margot
Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert
Shallow Grave
Natural Born Killers
Exotica
The Hudsucker Proxy
The Crow

Of the list above Ed Wood, Three Colors, Pulp Fiction,  Shawshank Redemption and Heavenly Creatures are truly great films, but for me it's almost impossible to top a year that had films by directors such as Kubrick, PTA, Polansky, Allen, Mann, Fincher, Neil Jordan, Alan Parker and Jonze, but well, that´s just me.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Fernando on March 30, 2003, 06:59:25 PM
Damn, I forgot to include Lyinch and Soderbergh, of course there should be others, I just don't remember everybody.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Ernie on March 30, 2003, 07:40:34 PM
Quote from: Duck SauceYes, 1999. A year with equal greatness will never be seen again..

No way. Are you being sarcastic? Cause you really can't say that for sure...you never know. That's like saying film is dead already. Film is undpredictable man. That's what people were probably saying back in the 70's with Scorsese and Kubrick. There are still a lot of future talented filmmakers out there (me for instance  :wink: )...some of them are suffering through high school now, they'll come out soon enough.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 30, 2003, 07:56:43 PM
This argument is getting silly. Its almost near impossible to really prove what year is better or what. I personally think a lot of the films from '99, including a lot of acclaimed ones, really are not that good at all. Titus is a joke because its stylizes Shakespeare by sacrificing the emotional impact of the original play. Stylization isn't a bad thing, but at least do it to make the story better. Reason is being lost in most movies today, especially ones that are overtly stylized. Go had no reason to make itself R rated, except to conform to the new cool geek cinema. Being John Malkovich had charm on first viewing, but now looks like a short film extended into a feature that didn't really want to fill in all the blank spots and tried to extend the cuteness of the ideas it had thinking they were great enough to last an entire movie. Polanski's The Ninth Gate was a major mess of a thriller that at the time was put down, but for The Pianist now, seems to be given credit only because of the name of the director applied to it. Soderbergh's The Limey was a minor success, that seemed for the most of the movie to go at an ok pace, but made itself good through one flashback scene at the end. American Beauty lasts on the performances alone; the story is too calculated for its own good. I could go on and on, but this seems like a weird argument to make anyways.

~rougerum
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Jeremy Blackman on March 30, 2003, 08:03:19 PM
Quote from: The Gold TrumpetTitus is a joke because its stylizes Shakespeare by sacrificing the emotional impact of the original play. Stylization isn't a bad thing, but at least do it to make the story better.

It's one of my favorite movies, and its ingenuity never struck me as offensive. There has never been anything like it, and it's beautiful... don't hate it cause it's beautiful. And did it really sacrifice anything that was in the original play? That seems like an odd argument to make, for several reasons. A play is meant to be seen, not to be read, and Taymor didn't change one word. The only thing that Titus could have changed would be your personal vision of the play, assuming that you read the play before the movie came out (you did, right?).
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: soixante on March 30, 2003, 08:57:56 PM
As good as 1999 was (and 1994 and 1998), I think 1971 was the best year ever -- McCabe and Mrs. Miller, A Clockwork Orange, Dirty Harry, French Connection, Straw Dogs, Carnal Knowledge, Harold and Maude, Last Picture Show, Sunday Bloody Sunday.  

1974 wasn't bad -- Godfather II, Conversation, Parallax View, Chinatown, The Gambler, Thunderbolt and Lightfoot, Blazing Saddles, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, Young Frankenstein, Badlands, Lenny, California Split, Thieves Like Us.

1975 was great -- Barry Lyndon, Shampoo, Nashville, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Dog Day Afternoon, Jaws, Day of the Locust, Tommy, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Man Who Would Be King, The Passenger, Night Moves.

1973 had a few good movies -- Mean Streets, American Graffiti, The Sting, The Exorcist, Last Tango in Paris, Scarecrow, Last Detail, Paper Chase, Long Goodbye.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Ghostboy on March 30, 2003, 09:07:09 PM
Titus blew my mind. Loved it.
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Gold Trumpet on March 30, 2003, 11:23:06 PM
JB,
your arguments do not get down to what my arguments of the movie even are. I'm not arguing differences between plays and movies. Of course Taymour didn't change one word which happens to be the problem. Actually, my complaints come from the cheap stylization effects to modernize the story more. The movie attempts to make itself more relevant by mixing things of our times with the past associated to the original story. But the story never really evolves to our times to the stylization really even relevant as an idea of importance. The movie deals strictly with the original story and the contempary aspect of the movie seem more intruding on that original story. Yes, the original play does generalize to where it can be revelant to our times, but in the case of identifying where the real power of the story can be felt, it really belongs to realizing the world of the past the story was originally imagined for. The idea of bringing it part past and part modern times seems like a film school idea that can be as much discussed on paper as on film. And on film, in my opinion, it simply deludes from the power of the story.

~rougerum
Title: 1999, could that be the greatest year in film history?
Post by: Pubrick on March 31, 2003, 03:38:34 AM
whatever, hoes.