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Had to be done sooner or later, i just wanted to be the one.

My fave: Blue Velvet/Mulholland Drive - not sure

i have a tough time choosing between blue velvet, lost highway and eraserhead. god i love lynch

Once you get some of the details figured out, Mulholland Drive. Im still working on completley understanding it.

Quote from: Duck SauceOnce you get some of the details figured out, Mulholland Drive. Im still working on completley understanding it.

I agree but i think i do have it all figured out by now, but what really makes my head hurt, is Lost Highway.

The more I think back to Mulholland Drive the more I love it.  David Lynch's films are always so oddly beautiful.  I wonder if he was like Ricky Fitts as a teenager?

Yeah, the "i'am filming this dead bird because it's beautiful" sequence gotta be inspired.

Lost Highway, no doubt.

Quote from: NewtronLost Highway, no doubt.

its great to see that some people do enjoy this masterpiece. i seriously do think that lost highway is one of lynchs very best, and its sad that most consider it too boring and weird.

I've never seen Lost Highway.  I should rent it sometime.

Quote from: life_boyI've never seen Lost Highway.  I should rent it sometime.

that you should.

Never seen Eraserhead either.

ONLY Lynch film I've ever really seen was Mulholland Dr and I loved it.

Quote from: NewtronLost Highway, no doubt.

It's at least the most underrated one. I love that movie, for all its painfulness.

Quote from: life_boyNever seen Eraserhead either.

DVD info please? I cant find the VHS

Quote from: Duck SauceDVD info please?

The DVD doesn't exist.

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Quote from: Duck SauceDVD info please?

The DVD doesn't exist.

Exactly.

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Quote from: life_boyNever seen Eraserhead either.

DVD info please? I cant find the VHS

From the man himself off his website:

"DAVIDLYNCH [7:18 PM PST]: I HAVE VERY BAD NEWS ABOUT ERASERHEAD -- WE HAVE HAD NO LUCK GETTING A GOOD CHECK DISC AND ARE NOW MOVING TO A NEW COMPANY -- ERASERHEAD WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE (?) FOR CHRISTMAS [2002] .... THIS IS VERY BAD BECAUSE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AND I AM PRETTY SICK ABOUT IT."

No word yet on a new timeframe, but if they are starting over with a brand new authoring company, I wouldn't expect to see anything till second quarter of 2003 at the earliest.

An Eraserhead screener is actually available on Kazaa but it has the size of about 250 megs and is in a kind of poor quality. The only way i have ever had the chance to see it.

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Quote from: life_boyNever seen Eraserhead either.

DVD info please? I cant find the VHS

Directed by: DAVID LYNCH
Starring : John Nance, Charlotte Stewart, Laurel Near, Jeanne Bates and Allen Joseph

BRAND NEW & SEALED
USA 1977
NTSC FORMAT (Suitable to play on any US & Canadian DVD player)
All zoned / Region 0 edition - may be played in ANY country!
Dolby Digital 2.0
Special Features: Scene Access, David Lynch Biography, David Lynch Filmography, Original Theatrical Trailer
Full Screen 4:3 Black & White (Lynch Filmed the feature in this aspect)
Running Time: 85 minutes
Languages: ENGLISH
Subtitles (removable):Korean
Description: Is it a nightmare or an actual view of a post-apocalyptic world? Set in an industrial town in which giant machines are constantly working, spewing smoke, and making noise that is inescapable, Henry Spencer lives in a building that, like all the others, appears to be abandoned. The lights flicker on and off, he has bowls of water in his dresser drawers, and for his only diversion he watches and listens to the Lady in the Radiator sing about finding happiness in heaven. Henry has a girlfriend, Mary X, who has frequent spastic fits. Mary gives birth to Henry's child, a frightening looking mutant, which leads to the injection of all sorts of sexual imagery into the depressive and chaotic mix.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3310581174&category=2299

Bootleg DVD's rock. Probably a copy of the region 4 disc. Another guy had a lot of them for $25 each.

I found a really great VHS bootleg on eBay. It had the Korean subtitles, so I imagine it was from that laserdisc. Also came with Grandmother and The Alphabet, which were REALLY low quality. But Eraserhead looked like it was only second generation.

My faves alternate between Eraserhead, Wild At Heart and Mulholland Drive. Lost Highway and Blue Velvet sometimes take the top spot, though. Those five are the best. But has anyone seen Hotel Room, the HBO anthology that he directed two parts of? The last episode, starring Alicia Witt and Crispin Glover, is just beautiful, and is one of my very favorite things he's done. It was a big inspiration for my short film 'Still.'

Quote from: GhostboyBut has anyone seen Hotel Room, the HBO anthology that he directed two parts of?

no, but im even more curious about seeing "still" now though. is there any way youll put it up on your site? or send a copy over to xixax so he can put it up here?

I'm not going to put it up on my sight just because it would be too big a file. It might end up on www.hypnotic.com, but otherwise I probably won't put it online. It should be available on DVD by the end of March, though...

I hate choosing between such great films....it just makes my head explode :shock: It's not healthy........but i did it anyway :-D

I liked all the movies i've seen but Mullholland Drive didn't really bring anything new. It just confirmed that Mr. Lynch has been watching his other movies to much. But anyway it's great i don't mind........."it dont matter to Jesus" :-D

When are anybody gonna do the "what's the worst ...... movie"???.......never seen that one!

Just had to chime in with my 2 cents. I voted for Lost Highway, which also happens to be my favorite film ever. Like most people I thought it was completely confusing the first time around but then I sort of became obsessed with it and watched it over and over again. The film really sort of came alive when I finally saw a theatrical screening of it at a midnight showing at a second run theatre. It's such an amazing film. To me, it sort of perfectly captures the idea of reincarnation and how you can't escape fate. It's probably also the most in depth character study I've ever seen.

Lynch is my favorite director ever. I have to try and stop myself from being TOO influenced by him. Every short I make I have to ask myself "Are you ripping Lynch off?".

I can't vote because I've only seen Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive, but I was a little disappointed seeing Blue Velvet after loving Mulholland Drive so much...it brings me to the conclusion that his skills as a filmmaker have gotten dramatically better. I love the fact that he was originally into art (painting? correct if wrong). That's what made those movies both great, the use of color, and the artistic shots that carry those films.

Mulholland Drive is my favorite Lynch film, but I can't say by far.  Lost Highway would most definitely be second, then Twin Peaks and Blue Velvet coming in third.  Mulholland Drive seems to be what he wanted Lost Highway to be.  Mulholland Drive is only better mainly because he, this time, justifies all his seemingly nonsensicle storylines with, by (I believe) his own admition, the fact that it's his cinematic dream representation.  Besides, it includes the ever-so-lovely Naomi Watts.[/quote]

I've seen every Lynch film except for "Twin Peaks: FWWM," and have throughly enjoyed all of them. Blue Velvet, Eraserhead, and the Elephant Man are my favourites, with BV taking first place. Straight Story is really cool as well.

I love "The Elephant Man".. one funny thing about it is that people I know make this big deal about Mel Brooks producing it. I know I'm not the only one aware of this.. but I always have to be the one to say, "yeah, do you think that was a coincidence because his WIFE was in it?"

Brooks was actually the one who brought Lynch on board, interestingly enough.

When I first saw Mulholland Drive, I liked it but my first reaction was that it was too similar to Lost Highway. It took me a few days for it to really sink in; the second time I saw it, I almost cried at how beautiful it was.

Fire Walk With Me is crazy. I personally like it quite a bit once it switches over to the Laura Palmer section, but I can see why fans of the show HATED it. I saw it once before I'd ever seen the series and didn't care for it too much. Then I saw it again once I'd watched all the series (which is amazing for the first season and the last few episodes of the second), and understood it.

It's definitely his scariest movie.

I know what you mean about how beautiful it was, but wouldn't it be funny if you told somebody that you almost cried because of it? I wonder how a non Lynch fan would reply..

Lynch is definitly one of my favourite directors. I voted Lost Highway as to me most eloquently externalized the subconscious landscape of the mind, in this case a diseased mind. I went to see it six times in a row when I first saw it and almost everybody I went to see it with at best couldn't make heads or tails of it, while I experienced complete understanding even though I couldn't and to a large degree still can't express it with words. He's one of a kind and I think it's rather sad that someone of his stature has more than once become dependent of French sponsorship to be able to make a movie.

It just stroke me that no one chose The Straight Story. This film is a diamond....a true diamond!

Even more surprising, 4 people voted Elephant Man, which I consider to be a good movie but a terrible Lynch-movie ...

Quote from: BoothEven more surprising, 4 people voted Elephant Man, which I consider to be a good movie but a terrible Lynch-movie ...

Yeah, I agree

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Quote from: BoothEven more surprising, 4 people voted Elephant Man, which I consider to be a good movie but a terrible Lynch-movie ...

Yeah, I agree

It retains much more of the desirable Lynch than Dune, which I'm glad to see nobody has voted for.

I really like The Elephant Man, even considering it as the work of Lynch. I think it works as a Lynch film in terms of visual style.

You are right, it works visually, with all the factories and everything.

As of Dune, I kind of enjoyed it. I think the book must be read prior to the first viewing of the film. The desert scenes are impressive. I like it better than the TV series.

Quote from: Sigur RósIt just stroke me that no one chose The Straight Story.

How did it stroke you?

Quote from: MacGuffinHow did it stroke you?

sigur ros is constantly stroking.  :shock:

I saw Dune before I read the book or saw the inferior TV series, and I thought it was pretty good. It was a little hard to follow, but was visually gorgeous and had an epic tone to it that worked pretty well. The special effects, with the exception of some of those spaceships, were really quite lovely. It's definitely Lynch's worst film, but I still think it's good (as opposed to the rest of his stuff, which I think is great).

yeah, dune isnt really on the level of his other works, i havent read the book or anything but i was really let down by the ending. rest of the movie was really good though and it kicked star wars in the photograpy ass, hard. the elephant man is a masterpiece of emotion wich like i havent seen yet. still need to see wild at heart.

Wild at Heart to me is his funniest... like "laugh out loud" funny, which is pretty rare for me.

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Quote from: MacGuffinHow did it stroke you?

sigur ros is constantly stroking.  :shock:

Please, be nice! Sometimes I am stroking it, but not constantly!

Quote from: Pas RapportWild at Heart to me is his funniest... like "laugh out loud" funny, which is pretty rare for me.

You are the first to mention WAH. I am not ashamed to mention that it is my all time favorite movie of it's kind.....by anyone! I really do not like the ending, but the first 9/10 of the movie is a masterpiece of weirdness. I know Cecil B D doesn't like it but I am anxiously awaiting the DVD release....if it happens. It seems there's been a lot of bs corporate crap going on like Twin Peaks set 2 and pilot DVD. :evil:

Damn, I'm the only one who voted for WAH! :onfire:

MULHOLLAND DRIVE

Eraserhead- The perfection of the disturbing

Lost highway- as some might say...underrated

Mulholland Dr


Ah....someone ever watched this short animation called The Alphabet?
Lynch made it in the seventies...

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Ah....someone ever watched this short animation called The Alphabet?
Lynch made it in the seventies...

Yeah. It's available on his short film compilation, in a nice cleaned up remastered version.

Quote from: SigurIt just stroke me that no one chose The Straight Story. This film is a diamond....a true diamond!

Finally saw this over the weekend and it's fabulous. I had loved Farnsworth since he damn near stole "The Natural." It was great to see him at center stage in a full-length film. And bittersweet, since he died between the time the movie was released and I actually got around to seeing it.

For those who want to be filmmakers, there are many great examples of how great dialogue can drive a film, but ALSO of how you can have long stretches without dialogue and still tell a rich, moving story.

Needless to say, the Farnsworth/Stanton scene should go down as one of the best-acted, most-touching scenes in history. Beautiful stuff.

for NEON, i think it would go like this...

1. TWIN PEAKS: PILOT - EPISODE 14 (i know it doesnt really count, but it's by far my favorite lynch, especially his episodes.)

2. BLUE VELVET
3. MULHOLLAND DRIVE
4. ERASERHEAD
5. ELEPHANT MAN
6. THE STRAIGHT STORY
7. LOST HIGHWAY
8. WILD AT HEART
9. FIRE WALK WITH ME
10. DUNE

but honestly, i would have to re-watch them all again to really have an opinion since i saw the first handful pre-Twin Peaks and didnt really 'get' him yet.  so that means WAH, EM, BV, even MD all need to be watched again.

Eraserhead
Hotel Room Episode #3 'Blackout'
The Alphabet
The Amputee
Rabbits

What an odd thing to say

i forgot to add i happened upon the VHS pilot episode over the weekend for 5.99 at a video store and the quality is excellent.  now, i'll finally get to see that 'extended' ending i was warned about!

Quote from: themodernage02for NEON, i think it would go like this...

1. TWIN PEAKS: PILOT - EPISODE 14 (i know it doesnt really count, but it's by far my favorite lynch, especially his episodes.)

2. BLUE VELVET
3. MULHOLLAND DRIVE
4. ERASERHEAD
5. ELEPHANT MAN
6. THE STRAIGHT STORY
7. LOST HIGHWAY
8. WILD AT HEART
9. FIRE WALK WITH ME
10. DUNE

but honestly, i would have to re-watch them all again to really have an opinion since i saw the first handful pre-Twin Peaks and didnt really 'get' him yet.  so that means WAH, EM, BV, even MD all need to be watched again.

thanks...

i also think re-evaluating those films will be rewarding ........i  do the same myself..............

and for kicks mine would be:

1. mulholland dr. [i still believe that biasis aside this is the greatest film so  far in the new millenium]
2. lost highway
3. blue velvet
4. eraserhead
5.  twin peaks : fire walk w/ me
6. wild at heart
7. straight story
8. the elephant man
9... dune

Wild at Heart gets no love on here or so it seems. Im going with WAH.

feels so weird to say it, but 'Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me'

Quote from: Reelist on September 18, 2012, 06:57:51 PM
feels so weird to say it, but 'Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me'

Absolutely no shame in that. It's very near the top for me.

Strange. I remember posting a list here, but I haven't.


1. Inland Empire
2. Mulholland Drive
3. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me
4. Lost Highway
5. Blue Velvet
6. Wild At Heart
7. The Straight Story
8. Eraserhead
9. The Elephant Man
10. Dune

One of these days I'll get around to watching Inland Empire.  I'm currently rewatching Twin Peaks on Netflix, and I definitely "get it" (what an awful phrase) in a way that I didn't when I first saw it.  I never saw Fire Walk With Me either, so that's next as soon as I'm done with the series.

Let me know if you get the latter part of Season 2, because I still think it's awful.

FWWM is great. It's like the very best Lynch-directed Twin Peaks episodes, except higher quality and more intense, and he's sort of pursuing different themes than the TV show. (It doesn't even try to be the definitive Twin Peaks movie.)

The Straight Story before Eraserhead??!!? you gotta be fucking me, JB.

Quote from: Reelist on September 18, 2012, 10:20:21 PM
The Straight Story before Eraserhead??!!? you gotta be fucking me, JB.

I don't really like Eraserhead. It's tedious and student-film-ish. For me, it represents immature Lynch. Fetal Lynch, even. I liked it even less upon second viewing. The Straight Story is watchable.

Oh and I wasn't hallucinating:

http://xixax.com/index.php?topic=4876.0

1. Mully D (almost overrated but not quite, justifies his entire oeuvre)
2. The Straight Story (underrated classic and in the lynch universe his most experimental film.. his vision filtered through lucidity results in a crystallized form where everything fits together perfectly mechanically, instead of the usual unwieldy mass navigable only through instinct. The one I've watched the most.)
3. Blue Velvet (best non Kub film of the eighties)

4. High Lostway (if he'd never made mully d we'd still be scratching our heads about this. It might have even turned into his first INLAND EMPIRE. but I doubt it, this feels like it was made by professionals)
5. Eraserhead (I still think Kub was trolling when he said this was his favourite film, but at the time I probly would've agreed.. not student film-ish at all. The most sophisticated amateur film ever made, even with no budget, the ideas and atmosphere give it a million dollar feel)
6. TP: FWWM (it's no Ronnie Rocket, but the electricity almost makes up for it)

7. Wild@heart.com ( probly due for a rediscovery, I'm just never in the mood for it)
8 Elephant Man (great title, not much else)
9. Dune (the worst film to come out of a genius mind since To The Wonder)

10. INLAND EMPIRE (worse than Dune and without any of the excuses)

1. Mullholland Dr.
2. The Straight Story (agree with everything Pubrick said, and it's highly emotional too)
3. Blue Velvet
4. The Elephant Man (this is just a beautiful horror film; uncomfortable to watch, it creates a universe all it's own, the constant noise from fabrics, the smoke and electricity, a world in the midst of an industrial revolution)
5. Eraserhead (yeah, this doesn't feel at all like a student film)
6. Lost Highway
7. Inland Empire (I don't hate it as much, but it's been impossible for me to see it complete again after two views...it's just too much)

You guys are fucking me about the Straight Story, right? No... just kidding. I liked it a lot, just figured you would go for his more visceral stuff, but P's explanation of why it works is really good.


Let's all give it a look see







Eraserhead, too. While we're at it

i've never ranked his movies. i'm in that mood...

1. Twin Peaks FWWM: absolutely spellbinding. to me it's about inability to apprehend truth. nightmares whitewash reality because there's no way to rationalise madness, especially when it comes to somebody you love and who loves you. what good is truth when it controverts love? it's a deeply sad movie and its impact on me only goes deeper with repeated viewings. personally, i don't see this as a prequel or a conclusion to the tv series but rather a reinterpretation. the entire show was just prepping and paving the way for this masterpiece.
2. Mulholland Drive: for a long time it was my favourite movie and it's still up there, but through no fault of its own it's just not as focused as FWWM. i still think lynch's approach at converting the pilot to a feature is one of the greatest marvals in cinematic history. the last 40 minutes are beyond amazing.
3. Lost Highway: it's been a while, need to watch it again. i don't really have much to say about it, other than i think it's an amazing ride and absolutely masterful in creating a foreboding atmosphere.


4. Inland Empire: loved it so much on the first two viewings. since then it's lost a lot of its impact. and much of it is kind of annoying. but i still love it.
5. The Straight Story: i agree with a lot of what Pubrick, but i don't quite like it as much as him.
6. Blue Velvet: used to be one of my favourite movies, but again it's just lost a lot of its resinance with me.
7. Eraserhead: i think it's very good.
8. Wild at Heart: it's been a while since i've seen it. i remember liking it quite a bit and thinking it was hilarious. might be higher (or lower) when i finally get around to rewatching it.
9. Elephant Man: i think it's alright.

haven't seen Dune.

Quote from: Pubrick on September 19, 2012, 04:41:54 AM

9. Dune (the worst film to come out of a genius mind since To The Wonder)

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The problem with Dune is that it is not the Dune that Lynch set out to make. There is a lot of seeds of Lynchian duality and opposites in the film but they're never really pursued, plus there's the discrepancy between the visuals and the audio (in terms of the characters' internal thoughts). When I look at the film now I can't help but see the potential there. I would have loved to see his vision realized without all the studio interference. Yes, it might still be a mess but it would have been the mess he wanted to make.

Quote from: brockly on September 24, 2012, 01:10:42 AM
1. Twin Peaks FWWM: absolutely spellbinding. to me it's about inability to apprehend truth. nightmares whitewash reality because there's no way to rationalise madness, especially when it comes to somebody you love and who loves you. what good is truth when it controverts love? it's a deeply sad movie and its impact on me only goes deeper with repeated viewings. personally, i don't see this as a prequel or a conclusion to the tv series but rather a reinterpretation. the entire show was just prepping and paving the way for this masterpiece.

xixax always makes me feel so less alone..

I just rewatched Wild at Heart the other week and it really holds up. Willem Dafoe's "fuck me" scene is still skin crawlingly tense. I still love that dolly shot of the two of them thrashing around in the field while the music transitions from metal to romantic strings. For all it's ghastliness, it's the sweetest, most optimistic film he's made.

1. Inland Empire (Brilliant film. I've been haunted by this film since it came out in 2006. Still amazed by it nowadays and there little secrets in it that I haven't unblurred but that's the thrill to watch this movie)
2. Eraserhead (No words for this, it changed the world of cinema to me.)
3. Blue Velvet (Almost perfect)
4. Mulholland Drive (a grower, but it will never mean more to me than the above)
5. The Straight Story (The living proof that this man is an amazing director even without all his gadgets)
6. Wild At Heart (Another grower)
7. Lost Highway (I used to like it alot more, but others grew more on me. Still great though)
8. The Elephant Man (Profound)
9. Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (I like it, but I don't like the pacing of the film, specially in the beginning)
10. Dune (This isn't a David Lynch film)