Michael Haneke

Started by bonanzataz, April 26, 2004, 11:40:30 PM

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bonanzataz

i figured the guy deserved his own thread. Funny Games, Code Unknown, The Pianist. All great films, all very fucked up and all make you think. I was meaning to go see his newest film, The Time Of The Wolf, at some foreign film festival in NYC, but i missed it b/c i suck. Has anybody seen it? Is it any good? I think he was supposed to be in attendance for a Q and A that night, i'm so pissed that i missed it now.

Just announced is his newest movie starring the lovely Juliette Binoche (who was in Code Unknown) called Cache, or in English, Hidden. IMDB plot synopsis:              Georges, who hosts a TV literary review, receives packages containing videos of himself with his family -- shot secretly from the street -- and alarming drawings whose meaning is obscure. He has no idea who may be sending them. Gradually, the footage on the tapes becomes more personal, suggesting that the sender has known Georges for some time. Georges feels a sense of menace hanging over him and his family but, as no direct threat has been made, the police refuse to help. A number of clues point to the tapes coming from a guy who holds a grudge against Georges for some kind of childhood injustice. What happened back then? What is the tape-sender's aim exactly? Georges' confrontation with the past soon begins to undermine his very settled existence.

Has Haneke received acclaim in the states? Nobody I know has ever heard of him. his films were recommended to me by a woman i met on an airplane going to england, so maybe he's big in europe (?).
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Ghostboy

I loved The Piano Teacher, but haven't seen anything else yet (in fact, I just missed a chance to see Funny Games on the big screen last week). The discomfort I felt during the Piano Teacher was unparalleled; it took me a while to decide whether I liked it. What I couldn't get out of my head, above all else, was the sudden cut to black at the end; that resonated quite stronly with me.

It also made me a huge fan of Isabelle Huppert, whose performance in that and Eight Women, and the difference between the two, blew my mind (although interestingly, she was playing almost exactly the same character in the two movies -- but the different approaches she takes to the roles is amazing).

Haneke's new film sounds fascinating. Lost Highway-ish, to be sure, but I'm sure he'll take it in a vastly different (and uncomfortably realistic) direction.

cron




Out on May 28.  Supposedly, it's Haneke's first french film, and a lot of fans seem to be mad at him because of it.  What I've read from last year's Cannes was that the audience laughed and booed at the screening.
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ElPandaRoyal

Quote from: GhostboyWhat I couldn't get out of my head, above all else, was the sudden cut to black at the end; that resonated quite stronly with me.

I know exactly what you mean. I felt like almost suffocating when he did that. Huppert did that thing (which I will not spoil) and then... get out and cut to black and credits and we  :shock:

Haneke has one twisted fucking mind but I cannot resist watching his films - Funny Games or Code Inconnu are also very emotionally powerful movies.
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bonanzataz

ghostboy, if piano teacher made you uncomfortable, you must see funny games. i nearly shit myself from frustration. there is ONE scene in particular (the remote control scene) that just makes you want to lunge at the screen and kill it.
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Ghostboy

Unfortunately, I have seen that scene. A friend of mine showed it to me, way before I had any idea who Haneke was.

ElPandaRoyal

Quote from: GhostboyUnfortunately, I have seen that scene. A friend of mine showed it to me, way before I had any idea who Haneke was.

I'd kill that friend with a stick.
Si

rustinglass

I first saw funny games on tv once, it was a real stroke of luck, I was zapping through then I heard that devilish song by john zorn/torture garden right at the beggining and it hooked me. I had trouble sleeping that night.

I saw la pianiste but I had such high expectations for it that it became dissapointing, I'll see it again when I get the chance.

Code inconnu is so-so. The theme is an always complicated one, and this film made me think a lot about things untill a week after I saw it. There is a brilliant  BRILLIANT scene with juliette binoche in the subway. but I didn't enjoy it as much as funny games
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Ghostboy

I just saw Time Of The Wolf this afternoon, and it is BRILLIANT. One of the most beautifully illustrations of optimism (which was a shock, coming from Haneke) that I've ever seen. It's a little slow starting out, but bare with it...

bonanzataz

Quote from: cronopioWhat I've read from last year's Cannes was that the audience laughed and booed at the screening.

while trying to bring this thread back to the forefront, i'd also like to pose the question - how? time of the wolf blew me away. haneke has absolute control over the characters, the tone, and his audience throughout the whole thing. he takes the average middle class family and throws them into chaos in such a jarring and disturbing way. the only thing i can see people having a problem with is that he shows very sensational subject matter in a very straightforward way, which can throw a viewer off and make them look for faults in the film. i've shown several people haneke's films over this summer and they all can't take the power of his awesomeness. if you haven't seen any of his movies yet, you're only cheating yourself. go out now and see every one of them before cache comes out in the states. you will not be disappointed, and all your friends will think you're the shit for discovering this man's work.
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Pwaybloe

I've seen his 3 most available movies in the US:

1) Piano Teacher
2) Code: Unknown
3) Time of the Wolf

... and that's my rank.

"Time of the Wolf" really started out well in the beginning, then it just kind of meandered to an end.  

SPOILERS The murder at the beginning was well done and set the mood for the movie to go forward.  Once they meet the kid, I thought the movie started to drag.  Though I thought the anticipation and arrival of the train reminded me of a cross between "Day of the Dead" and "Road Warrior," which was totally unexpected and a welcome (but unintentional) homage from Haneke.  And then there's the rape and the mystery of who the rapist was, which was an uneccessary distraction to the story.  Two real horses get shot.  And then it just kind of drags to an end.  END SPOILERS

Was there an underlying meaning that I missed that other apocalyptic movies didn't cover?  I think we all get that ordinary people put in extraordinary situations will yield unexpected results.  Survival of the fittest, evolution takes over,  yeah, yeah, yeah.  I get it.

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Out of what I've seen...

The Piano Teacher: his best film. I love twisted love stories...and this one is really twisted.
Funny Games: his second best, coming close behind The Piano Teacher. Completely terrifying. I watched this in 4 in the morning and I couldn't get my eyes off the screen.
Time of the Wolf: this one is alright, a little slow. Maybe even a little overrated.
Benny's Video: yeah, this one is great until he kills the girl. Then it just kind of looses focus. This or Time of the Wolf are my least favorite Haneke.
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SoNowThen

For you guys who know my tastes, would I like Haneke? I'm thinking of bb'ing Time Of The Wolf and Code Unknown... they're on cheap right now at amazon.co.uk
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meatwad

just finished watching The Piano Teacher, and was shocked at how numb it left me. when the credits came up, i realized my leg was shaking, and was left wondering how long it had been. It left me with an uncomfertable feeling i have not felt from a film in a long time. i have Time Of The Wolf with me, and i'm prob going to watch that soon

i'm trying to track down code unknown and funny games. are they worth it?

bonanzataz

Quote from: meatwad on January 15, 2006, 02:13:57 PM
just finished watching The Piano Teacher, and was shocked at how numb it left me. when the credits came up, i realized my leg was shaking, and was left wondering how long it had been. It left me with an uncomfertable feeling i have not felt from a film in a long time. i have Time Of The Wolf with me, and i'm prob going to watch that soon

i'm trying to track down code unknown and funny games. are they worth it?

funny games is, definitely. code unknown i think i need to see again, but i remember not being totally wowed with it.
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